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This is so so sad. Erle was the kind of guy who would help anybody & share anything. 61 is far too young. Im sure if Earle practiced what he preached then he would still be with us. All the knowledge in the world comes to nothing if you dont train !

Yes,The entire world knows full well about the trouble we're in right now. The sad thing is Australia sends billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries in trouble, yet hardly any of those same countries have stepped up or even bothered to offer their support

I know nz was one of the first to offer their much appreciated help & donations. Thanks on behalf of many.

Hey guys,

The entire world has seen the trouble Australia is in. I just want to pass on my sympathy to any and all aussie bums affected by this Disaster. Our prayers are with you all.

Lol, I'm seeing a possible sub-thread about prostitutes and morality. But if you think about it, if Verdesi did indeed have such "advanced" sexual skills it would probably be a refreshing breath of air (and oxytuccin ) in comparison to their probably unsatisfying "career". And also he's paying their bills while giving them a (assumed) good time, almost could be viewed as charity, lol. Of course it could easily be argued that it'd be better to try an get them into school or working a more fulfilling career, however idk if what he is rumored to do can even be considered that "bad". Not to try and defend Verdesi, i've never met him, but just offering an alternate view.

 

Has anyone met him or sifu Jiang? Experienced their "ability" (NON-sexual ability, lol) ? Jus curious.

 

-Astral

Nice link YM,Thankyou.

Since "Dr Verdesi" has achieved Yin & Yang Gong why wasn't He the one doing the Demonstration ?

Secondly there was no before shot of the Persons Stomach, Only an after shot. Why wasnt the camera positioned in such a way that we could see it as it happened ?

I was also on the assumption and told by many others that David & Jiang are no longer friends or even on speaking terms now. So i dont know how old the video is ?

Thanks.

Hi guys,

I think nowadays the term "Opening The Microcosmic Orbit" covers a very a broad spectrum. Theres so many different theories regarding this procedure from all the various schools out there.

It would be nice to hear the Longmenpai theory regarding the physical & spiritual benefits (If any) surrounding this practice.

Thanks

Some members seem to be confusing kungfu & meditation with magic.

Taiwan (like any other asian country) is full of fortune tellers,mystics, and dozens of spiritual healers,gropus,etc. Have you ever tried visiting any of the temples or checking out various magazines,etc ? Im certain there is a bi monthly publication where all these crazy types advertise their services. Personally i wouldnt seek advice from the internal arts community. Many of them have very strange/unfounded opinions on magic and usually mix in very different circles as well.

The most crucial & important thing is, Knowing the correct terminolgy or names/characters of what you wish to learn. This is an absolute must. So many times I have spoken to people but they didnt have the slightest clue what i was on about, Only when i said it in their native tongue and used the exact phrase did they then understand and were usually more then willing to help.

Well its been raining here almost non stop for the past month. Luckily in my neck of the woods last night was one of the clearest we had in some time.

I live on the South East Coast of Australia and managed to see it early last night. Lots of great folkore surrounding the so called "Hunters Moon" too.

Interesting. Man that's a lot of money for a photocopy version of the book...but it's good that you're so dedicated.

Thanks scotty. Well im thinking if its genuine then to me its priceless, and i would have paid much more if need be.

Cheers,

Update:

Been cutting back on the standing practice,meat,eating more vegetables & doing more meditation. I really feel like i have cooled down maybe 50% more. I have been doing the physical training in the morning and meditating during the late hours. Somebody suggested meditating after practice but Not wanting to disobey the rules,i cannot meditate directly after training. So Its just in between these times (morning & late night) that i feel hyper but it is much easier to control now.

Thanks for the support everyone.

I'm confused; did you buy a photocopy the handwritten book about Wang Bao's Great Purity Method? Can you read it?

Hi there,

No i ended up purchasing a photocopie of the said mopai book. There is a mudra that involves touching the thumb to the middle finger. The lungs = breathing and the lung meridian ends in the middle finger. So connecting these points make perfect sense.

Thanks,

Hi guys, This is my first review of the mentioned website.

I just recieved a photocopy of the book for $450 bucks. Packaging was superb and took me about 10 minutes just to unwrap it lol. Ok, The first three pages talk about the history and detail a chart naming the past grandmasters of the school. There is also a mantra to be recited before and after every training session to call upon a legendary figure. The mantra certainly sounds chinese but also contains words that appear to be persian or tibetan, so this tells me the system is not 100% taoist and has other influences perhaps. Later Goes into absorbing earth energy, mudras,etc. From what i gather the same breathing technique is used throughout the entire method and only the physcial positions of the body are changed pertaining to each level.

To be continued ....

why dont you just look at his photos? the person who sells teachings on eternal youth looks like a normally aged 50-60 yo chinese male, he is not gray yet but that is a genetic chinese treat.

 

if he cant make himslef look even a bit younger than his biological age what is it people pay him for?

 

this tells you all you need to know both about him and them

Some good points Tianshi. And yes, Its a shame more of the WLP group or Kathy dont speak up and share some information here.

Thanks.

dam, whos that lady in the red jacket lol

John Chang ispired thousends of people (including me) to search for and to begin with a Nei Kung system. He proved also that a smoking guy with a normal character can archieve the highest goal (becoming an immortal) without being a saint! As Jim said: It's all about dedication...and having talent (John's Master "saw" that John had the potential to archieve very much; read Kosta's book)and getting the right material to practice!

Being a "saint" without ego will help you NOTHING!

On the contrary, it's all about being egocentric: You got to have a strong personality that want's to survive at any cost!

John chang didnt prove anything. It was only your limited perception of what a Master should & should not do or look like that was altered (sorry).

Well a overwhelming response,thanks so much to everybody in this thread.

I remember reading opening the energy gates perhaps 10 years ago or more. The story now rings a bell. Yes somebody else said that you can easily burn yourself out with hard/dynamic type exercises. Im going to concentrate on some meditation more i think,

Regards,

Get your Priorities straight on "why" you train. Also Have you been training indoors? The training method may be meant to be outdoors, since it sounds heavily fire.

 

I'd advise meditating outside aswell. Maybe lay off meat and eat more vegetables, if it's that serious you might as well give it a try.

 

A group of daoists when they're training very hard and doing moxibustion eat only vegetables and no meat. Because they get there fire from moxibustion and training..

Thankyou for the help mate. Im glad you mentioned the indoors thing. I have been training in a little tin shed,cement floor,and the humidity during summer is almost unbearable. I have not been doing any meditation and rarely eat any vegetables (besides some BBQ onions with my steak lol)

Im going to try eating less meat,perform more meditation,and not be so negative thinking while traing. For some reason my mind wanders and i tend to think about everything negative that has happened while training. I heard once before that its not good to train when angry, but what to do when somebody is always angry ?

I will re-post in a weeks time after giving it a go ,

Thanks.

Hi guys,

Recently i have started some hard qigong exercises. The thing is over the past few months i have turned into a complete almost raving lunatic. My temper has become so bad and my patience is zero. I now suffer from road rage & i used to laugh at road rage and wonder why people got so worked up.

I know im going to get into serious trouble if i cannot learn to control myself soon. Should i be meditating more ? I would like to stop training but i cant, it has become like an addicitive drug that fuels me. If i dont do my training on a daily basis then i begin to feel weak,timid,vulnerable, i cant even look into peoples eyes. I become even more unstable then when training.

Confused, any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I am recently being gripped more and more by the influence and attachment of lust. Consciously I always realize it strongly within my mind that imagining the girl sitting on the bench in a park is with me on bed and doing "weird" things is not only useless and fruitless, but also detrimental for my mental and emotional health as well as an obstruction on the way to Tao. So please suggest me some techniques, practices, meditations, methods or whatever that will allow me to either eliminate or reduce the growing force of lust in my mind.

 

I want to go back to the days when I wouldn't be lusty after checking out random chicks or would be watching porn so often. Frankly speaking, I may be more lusty now, but really even if I were to really have sex with some Hot chick I wouldn't feel as much pleasure as when I was a more "decent" and balanced individual who was not easily influenced by sensual desires. Its just somehow my mind is hungry for sex, but never satisfied even when "fed" with that.

 

 

Well, frankly speaking my condition is not as bad as it may sound from my post; in fact, I think I am still not in the situation where I masturbate everyday watching porn or so conditioned sexually by porn that I wouldn't get any pleasure when I have to really act that. But still, I am concerned because I know that the compartment of lust grows by reducing that of love (and in fact lust reduces real pleasure as well; think about it). I do not want to be glued to the computer just because I happened to have ended up at a site with an Ad of a semi-naked girl making sensual moves and then moved on to browse more and more (perhaps its curiosity as well). I know I was better before. Even if I ended up in a porn site, I would really get filled with desires (in other words, get an erection). Now I dont really feel as much bodily pleasure and desire after coming across anything sensual in nature, yet my "hunger" to look at it more and more has increased much than before.

 

 

Anyway, my history aside, I would really like some suggestions on how to reduce the influence of lust. I have actually decided to walk the path of celibacy for at least quite some time (may be half a year or one year) so as to again "purify" my mind that is conditioned so much with all the past experiences (of watching porn and fantasizing about sex with strangers). I am sure some kind of meditation would help. But my experience is that if not done in regularity, even meditation actually acts as a catalyst to make my mind more vulnerable to the magnet pull of sexual objects. This if from experience. Often when I have meditated after a long period, I end up getting aroused more easily. But when I have practiced it for quite some time regularly, then it indeed leads to a stronger mind that is not easily influenced by sense and desires. Lately, due to job change and hectic schedule, I have been skipping not only meditation, but also my physical exercises. I am sure this is a major reason for the shift in the strength of my mind in getting enslaved by attachment and desire.

This has been one of the greatest challenges for any serious cultivator. The spirit of Lust is said to be one of the hardest to rid oneself of if allowed to take hold,and rightly so.

The best thing is to try & wipe any and all thoughts of sex the moment they arise. Nocturnal emissions(not saying you experience them) are usually the result of a sexually active mind btw. Ceasing any & all thoughts about sex will cure any of these problems 100%

Thanks.

Mal Your soul is dammed through all eternity now

Winter

The time for Resting, Healing.

Becoming ready for Spring !

My link

Well its summertime in this part of the world. Almost 40 degrees (celcius) today ,might go for a dip down the beach or go for a walk, no fall here & tropical weather all year round.

Cheers

IMO, most of the persons that question the mods,

are themselves VERY questionable.

 

No judge would make a case from this.

Let alone stand for it to extend to...8 pages???

So your hinting the mods to lock this topic now ? Now that is only adding fuel to the fire

Edit: I think its important to get this sorted. Locking the thread might cause more resentment and ill feelings. Perhaps its better to get it all off the chest and deal with now so we can move forward once and for all.

One more thing,

Although i disagree with some policies, overall i think the Moderators are very fair & lenient here.Theres times i know i went too far, but i was kindly overlooked by whoever.

Its not so much the word "Cheerleader" but rather the way it may have been used that caused a stir ? (not that i seen the discussion)

I think if used with good humour the moderators here would and often do give plenty of slack.

Thanks.

People need to be a bit more thick skinned on here. This reminds me of grade school when people run & tell the teacher if your naughty lol.

I dont care if im cursed at (on a forum) as im an adult and live in the real world - where insults and criticism are part of the parcel. Its a case of sink or swim for the whingers.

The first step to being a real man/woman is to begin displaying the qualities of one. If your gonna complain about everything & run to moderators for help over something so petty as name calling,then you need to start training a bit harder.

Im 100% sure the moderators dont want to moderate so fiercly....but when your getting drowned with all these petty complaints day in day out, then what else are they supposed to do ? They are required to act,regardless how silly it may seem at times.

So you guys........unless its like "Way Serious"........please leave the MODS alone as they are flat out as it stands. The taobums has always been non political and non judgemental and was mostly unmoderated at one stage........but if complaints about trivial matters do not desist, then this forum and all it stands for will be gone forever.

Iam however opposed to the deletion of my links & the ban of scribd,rapidshare,megaupload here. Theres certainly a hidden agenda there and i dont buy the copyright excuse for 1 second.

Thanks