TheTaoBum

Nice post Lienshan & stigweard, Most people here have no knowledge or depth to explain the purpose of this square or the practical usage. Perhaps one of the Moderators could explain ?

Most of Robert Pengs material is freely available on the net & places like demonoid. Nothing special or different about his qigong compared to others.

This sounds very hard to acomplish.

Could do with a Big Mac right now

If you have only scratched the surface then i suggest you shut your mouth & get somebody who knows what their talking about next time. Thanks for nothing.

Hi all, I thought Qigong Healing depends upon how much Chi one had stored in the body ? Yes open channel & dynamic tension are important in some styles, but having a full dantian is the most important step i think in all of this. I read somewhere on the old wenwukuan forum that having a full dantian can stop many kinds of attack, be it physical or spiritual. The author of the magus stated that the "Long Distance Punch" which is used by tenaga dalam schools will have no effect on a person with full dantian. Large amounts of yin chi are what protects you from this attack,something which is hard to find build in tenaga dalam or they are simply unaware of the mechanics of chi. The closest indonesian TD ever get to yin power are the islamic & javanese mantras which enable one to come in contact with yin type energy. A full dantian as mentioned by Kosta Danaos is one of the best talisman/amulets you can hope for. Bringing many blessings & good health/luck to the practitioner and his or her entire family.

Yes i think your both right. Its not a buffet & we have to follow the tradition, as hard is it may be at times. Thanks for the patience all.

Its hard enough finding any qigong students willing to talk about their art (not only longmenpai). So any and all answers are greatly appreciated ken & youzfive. Indeed Master wangs training took a lifetime. He was prepared slowly to be the keeper of secrets by the taoist wizards and successor of this many great arts. So of course the training must be very slow,delicate & precise. But for the average joe..... 5 years is plenty of time to develop a very high standard of inner power i feel ( If master wang chose to help you properly). My feeling is that whoever is in charge are only throwing out the crumbs for us to eat. Thanks.

20 years lol. Thats absurd. You say Twenty years training and they still must return constantly after so long ? Something sounds very wrong there right away. I suppose thats because they learnt nothing of any real value to begin with right ? On a serious note, just Imagine what one could truly learn in 20 years with a teacher like wang liping. And yes i agree, using google translate is ridiculous and They (The Forum Members) should not be subject to this treatment.....but what else can they do since you prefer to argue instead of sharing some positive info about your Pai and Techniques ? Please dont let my comments alone spoil it for the rest. Speak for christs sakes man

Why cant Wang Liping speak for Himself on the forum ? He's not God is he ? All the material from the previous and the upcoming seminars is already freely avaible on chinese forums. http://www.qigongworld.net/ http://www.360doc.com/content/10/0202/09/349947_14903754.shtml http://www.3qing.org/Activety/show-148.htm Are just some examples. Non mandarin speaking must use google translate. With much higher level techniques being discussed openly to beginners i might add. As these forums contain some current but many ex longmenpai students then You can be sure to get an honest answer. Unless there is going to be some serious energy transfer or transmission from master Wang then i wouldnt even bother attending.

I know full well what you meant & your simply playing it down. For all Master Wang's wisdom and foresight he couldnt even find the right person for the job in the usa. So you lost me with that one taomeow. I stand by my original comments regarding the current Instructor. And its not slander but only my criticism that gets you so bent out of shape. Just becasue you respect somebody dont expect others to feel the same way.

You just told me not to slander ....but right after you casually threatened me not to play chicken with a dragon ???

I have not slept for almost 2 days now and only mentioned carolina in confusion with the upcoming seminar. ( Of which i will be attending) About the first seminar in georgia. I clearly remember the muslim guy (ashik) asking master wang the most ridiculous questions & hogging all the talk time to himself. And yes ,all we did was silly tree meditation that i can get for free off the net anytime. That crap has been public knowledge for 100 years now & nobody wants to pay learning that grade 1 rubbish. Youzfive , It'comes as no suprize to me that You are strongly motivated to argue a small typo you happened to see while lurking around here. Yet you still refuse to add anything positive to the discussion and wont answer any specific questions regarding the upcoming seminar. This clearly indicates your true level & mental state.

Orb, In Martial terms i have given you're last comment and attitude displayed a perfectly suited monicker...."The Kneeling Alter Boy". If you want to curry favour with the promoters so badly then Next time i would suggest something more original then taking a shot at myself. Chinese Qigong teachers have been aware of western ass kissers for many years now & students like you who hang on every word master says get laughed at constantly. You think by jumping on the defensive and rusiing to the front line will show your loyalty & repect lol, but its really an inbuilt weakness you were born with. Vortex thank you for the mature reply. I attended the 1st seminar in carolina and must say i was very disappointed with it. 90% of the material advertised was not even discussed let alone taught. We were given a small booklet talking about some of the skills in LINGBAO like astral travel. But now i look back i think it was just to attract naive students. Most of the training was so basic and consisted mostly of silly tree meditation. Not the hardcore techniques advertised and promoted over the website and in the booklet. You have teachers who are there not because of the love of teaching or helping another. But rather students who have been subtlely ordered to Instruct by the master. And they teach only out of fear & the possibilty of losing favour with master wang with no further Special Attention. Right off the bat you have all the wrong ingredients & you have not even began training. Just my 2 cents.

Why dont these Seminar Promoters or Students answer the bloody questions ? I think Wang Liping needs a different PR Rep in the West and would not be happy about this. If you cant get question answered on a forum then dont expect much from the seminar. So If you want us to attend then PLEASE OUTLINE CLEARLY AND IN FULL DETAIL WHAT WE WILL LEARN. How much time exactly will we have with Wang Liping ? Will Everybody get a chance to talk with him ? Get the drift...... TheTaoBum.

Drew i suspect there are more selfish/childish motives at play for deleting those books. I strongly doubt they care about the Authors feelings or distribution rights as claimed lol . Somebody said there were many complaints by other members about the material i posted. Its the "Hey i paid money so why shouldn't you" Attitude that exists around here.

Thanks for the info Drew, So the only reason Scribd Links cannot be posted here is because its not ethical or fair say the moderators? What ever happen to free speech and freedom of information here ? There is much material on this forum that already violates certain copyright laws im sure..... but only this special books have been censored.

Why not ? Plenty of other sites allow it

Yes the Scribd & Rapidshare police will knock down your door and throw you in jail

But the guy who moves the keris is chinese neikung and so is the term "YIN CHI. What is YIN CHI called in Tenaga Dalam ?

Thanks suninmyeyes. I would love to post more but the Moderator Mal said i would be banned. I cant even refer you to sites such as scribd anymore here. Kind of pathetic really so i have decided to share on another forum that doesn't whinge about Scribd & Rapidshare links. I guess ridiculous topics like Star wars & Haiku chain are more important around here. http://theoccult.forumcommunity.net/

Spiritofchi is run by a guy named ferizal in jakarta. He has many websites advertising everything from Gtummo to Spirit guides, none of which work. Feri (as he is known to his friends) is like the Indonesian Superman version of David Verdesi, Constantly changing masters to cash in on whats popular at the time. Note: Many indonesian mantras do have different words. For example the Hindu Tradition in Bali have many extra Gods and mantras that are not known or used by the Indian Tradition. The common mantras also differ slightly from the usual.

Have had a few issues recently. Hopefully everything should be back to normal shortly and we can start back again.