Fire Dragon

Hi

Theories about yang qi, wind qi and this sort of things are common in taoist literature and teachings.

 

I think that Healing Tao is much more qigong-like than taoist alchemy-style and my ideas are quite unpopular because of the famous formulas.

For example, Chia never talk about this kundalini-like "yang qi" while he probabily experienced it.

He want to be as more accessible as possibile and a qigong-like approach is good for this purpose.

But Taoism is much more.

 

The qi process in ironshirt is how I interpret certain phenomena.

 

For more information about taoist school and accurate information about Qi, I strongly suggest to look at the works of Master Nan Huai-Chin and William Bodri.

Highly recommended

 

 

 

Thanks

FD

 

meditation expert

Thanks snowmonki

 

What I consider to be the most relevant thing when talking about ZZ, is the tremendous help that it gives in arising the Yang Qi.

This Qi is not the "wind Qi" targeted in usual qigong exercise, but it is a form of energy that becomes hot because it cleans the obstructions in the Qi channels making you healtier. It causes a sort of friction with the impurities of ying qi in the body.

 

This yang Qi arises from stillness of the mind in sitting meditation also, but ZZ makes it stronger even if the mind is not completely empty (for example if one concentrates on relaxing, etc...).

 

Iron shirt is a mean to combine the effects of yang Qi (which cleans the channels and create free flow of internal qi) and the "wind qi" that is stored in the fascia exclusively for martial purpose.

There is not a definite line that say standing-> yang qi and breathing->wind qi because while holding the breath (similar to the state of hsi embrionyc breathing), yang qi start to rise for example.

 

In my opinion, the "packing" is a sort of compression: wind qi stored in the fascie opened by yang qi.

But I'm not a Qigong master: this is a student's opinion.

Hello I find your ideas about yang Qi and wind qi interesting. Do you have any sources to this? Is it something mantak Chia has written about or anybody else?

I practise in the universal tao system.

Fire Dragon

Hi,

 

I study energy healing arts years ago - I tried for example reiki, it's very interesting, but I always turned back to Tao.

So I meditate a lot on healing. It's very important to me, I think it is a very good way to practice and help to other people.

 

Do someone knows healing practices based on Tao / taoism? I mean: some kind of hands-on method?

I know, it sounds like a "shortcut" comparing with chi kung exercises, but I really interested in it.

Check out these two books by Mantak Chia "Taoist cosmic healing" and "Taoist astral healing"

FD

As you very well know by now, we came into this life with pre-written soul contracts and karma situations.

 

Prior to your birth, you may have asked for a situation where you serve as an energy vampire for those entities around you.

 

However, this left-hand path is now creating lots and lots of negative karma which would be repaid in your future life-times.

 

I can help you if you want for free.

 

PM me.

Somthing tells me witch will see it somewhat differently than you

Yes many more dedicated than me says:

Qigong and taoist yoga is not so much of building up something, but instead it is about taking away things and patterns to find the natural way being like a baby!

FD...

The reason I posted thread was because I had noticed that some of the people were doing the abdominal breathing incorrectly. My intent here is not to criticize someone's breathing method but to corrected it as I see fit.

 

I had practice Taiji for more the thirty years. Then I switched to Chi Kung for simplicity. By your description of doing your abdominal breathing was not quiet correct, that was why it was extremely hard for you to even do ten abdominal breaths. You were totaly exhausted when reaching 20.

 

The problem you are having was because you were fighting your breathing in a very unnatural way. May I recommend you do the following.

1. Do not count how many times of breathing because that will make you loose concentration.

 

2. You just close your eyes and look down toward the tip of your nose. You just relax and breathe as slow as you can and deep as you can. Don't even think about that you are doing abdominal breathing. Just let the breath stop where ever it can until you are very comfort without any dizziness. You just have to let your breath go down slowly, until one day, reaches your abdomen. Another word, in the meantime, do not force your breath down to your abdomen.

 

 

Remember, your breath must go down from your nose, throat, chest then abdomen. Do not skip or force your breath from throat to abdominal, literally speaking. Your breath only goes into your lungs but the abdomen. Abdominal breathing was only a description that your lungs were full of air at the highest capacity.

Hello. That description of mine was for ower 10 years ago when I just started my practise. I am quite aware of everything you did write above. Not saying that I not can learn more, just telling I have developed during the last 10 years. Today I quite naturally breath into the stomach and also the back is expanding and also the sides, from time to time it also feels like the whole body is expanding, even down to the feet and up to the head sometimes, when I practise more dilligently.

Today no sweating no hardship with my abdominal breathings. Perhaps somethimes when I have a wery stressful period, but it loosen up automatically, and just the abdominal breathing is particularly helpful for this, in my case.

FD

FD

Hi Fire Dragon.

May I ask what kind of retreat it will be?

Hello

My retreat is wery long.

Have you heard about the story of the western adept wery interested in yoga and meditation going to the Himalayas to wisit a guru. He traveled for a long time and did do alot of investigation to find the man. (Are the gurus in India never women?). After a few mounths of asking people where he was and a long travel in the mountains he found the man. The guru did give the man an advice and this advice was the only thing the guru did tell the man. "Go home"

So basically my retreat goes on as long as I live where ever I am at. And I will do my comon practise, which at the moment is moslty practises from mr Eric Steven Yudeloves books or from the universal tao system.

Inner smile

fusion of the five elements

iron shirt

sexual kung fu

bone breathing

8 brocades

some hatha yoga

Different kind of breathing exercises

tao yin

And I will soon start to open the 8 extraordinary meridians and to learn the practise of the golden elixir qigong acording to Mantak Chia.

I look forward to here more about your retreat and what adventures you will go true during it. And I hope I will be able to do something similar like a longer retreat myself someday, untill then my life retreat goes on

Happy Journey and may you find something that realy is aligned with your spirit, and something that is not, for the learning of it.

FD

I have lurked around in the ttb forum for quite some time and it lead to creating my own account for this.

So hello everyone.

Hello

I will do my retreat in a litle apartment in the southern part of Stockholm.

Welcome to thetaobums

Fire Dragon

Hello

What about the obvious techniques of the six healing sounds, which are wery coling and ballancing.

I myself practise from the Mantak Chia system, but I have the opposite problem of a cold body, but somethimes the energies got realy hot. This is explained to me by my TCM doctor in this way: I have had Yang qi defiency for a long time and that also create a yin defiency. To litle yin makes me hot when stressed.

During these hot symtoms I get much better by doing just a few of every of the six healing sounds exercises.

I wonder what happens to you when you do six healing sound? Does it help any?

FD

Hello

Some of the birds from Sweden that fell down and died will be checked at a laboratory if they are possoned. I heard that on the news just before I saw this tread.

FD

This is just an add on to your question though I have experienced a similar thing and also made a question mark in my mind.

I do some western kind of practises at a sport club. One of the things I do is pilates. In the kind of pilates they teach you are supposed to tigten the stomach and move it into closer to the spine. This realy is a contradiction to my qigong. Even after the practise they like to do a standing meditation for relaxation, quite close to iron shirt or other stading poses in qigong. Also doing this relaxation they like to put the navel into the spine. Well I guess the idea of putting the navel into the spine is a stabilisation exercise that is necessarily during some exercises that are demanding at the lower back, and while you put your navel in you stabilise the whole area. But why do it when standing and relaxing. It is so contradictory to everything I know about making the energy go smooth in the body, and it realy tighten things up. This makes me sometimes don't wana do the exercises.

Sometimes I feel that the pilates is just not working the right way for the body internaly. Even though I think I benefit some from the exercises if you look at it on a only physical level, for streantening core muscles for instance.

Just a similar question like Tao Maewses.

FD

Alex your welcome.

 

I actually just finished my 100 days of cold draw retention training and I have found the before/after results phenomenal, which inculde but are not limited too...

 

1. Far greater pleasure from much less stimulation.

 

2. Much greater ... "water pressure"

 

3. My emotional state is much improved compared as to when I began. This was actually the primary reason I started the 100 days of cold draw retention in the first place. Specifically my sacral and solar plexus chakras have seen a drastic amount of improvement, and thus I feel siginficantly better. Ironically a lot of what caused me to feel the need to retain was a guilt and shame complex related to sex. As these emotions are the primary issues of the sacaral and solar plexus chakras, using this excess jing to help balance those areas was very helpful. I now view sex as more of something to enjoy when its time as opposed to being bi-polar about it i.e. (either get totally obsessed about it to the exclusion of everything else, or avoid it as though it were evil)

 

4. My energy level while I can't say is as high as an Olympian athlete, is quite improved comapred to when I first began which as feeling fatigued almost constantly.

Nice to hear about your progress and improved emotional state!

I also do the cold draw quite often, I have done it two or three times today for instance. It is a nice practise. I like to feel the opening and filling of the point with cold Jing energy. Quite vibrant feelings in the points, and still a quite soft practise. I think perhaps this method should be more emphasised than the big draw.

FD