Fire Dragon

Hello Good luck with your kun lun practise. Perhaps a powerful water method as kun lun is good for your kidney (water) problem. F D

Hello There is a nice story by a monk with a cronic kidney problem who solved it with his practise as a jade dragon witth a white tigress. With sexual cultivation. In Hsi Lais book "The sexual teaching of the jade dragon". The story: The bamboo imortal. Of course this has nothing to do with kun lun but with kidney problems. F D

Hello Having alot of sex is ok if you not ejaculate ewerytime. To deal with this its good to learn the big draw. I don't think you learn it in a good way from the book "The multi orgasmic man". The best way is to go a class in and take a healing love course. Some in the universal tao system as for instance the leader of universal tao, usa, Michael Winn is not teaching this as a basic course anymore. You have to do alot of other stuff like the fusion practises first. Its always important to learn the big draw in the whole context. To know the whole system and not just the teqhnique big draw. It might make you even more inballanced. Try to find a universal tao teacher is my advice to you. About sexual adiction. If you having alot of ejaculations you are learning the system to be more adicted to sex. The weakening of the sexual energy are also weakening your will power so you might be more adicted to loosing more energy if you are more weak. If you learn to take more controll ower your energy when horny, not having ejaculations all the time, you will also be less adicted to sex. Try to find our wich frequence of ejaculatons that suits you in the long run. Don't know if this helps but something anyway. F D

Hello W Y G I am a practioner of the universal tao system since 1999. I have tried the most of hes sexual exercises. At least what I have been able to alone, beacase I have been living as a celibate during this time. They seems to work. Are there any partucular quesion on this? regards F D

Hello During my experiences with the white tigress system I did a meditaion with slow breath. The meditaion was to concentrate on a point behind the eyes, as the tird eye but behind the eyes. After some weeks I could see a flacing light there. The point is cald original cavity and ancestors hall and more names. When doing this you start to breath more and more slow breaths. First an inhalation during 12 hart beats. Then when managing this wery well an inhalation during 36 heart beats. Quite dificult and I never manage more than 9 such breaths. After this u increase stepwise to over 1000 heartbeats during an inhalation and at last you not breath at all. It is possible to slow down the breath at unbelivable slow phase if you have the capability to breath chi instead. This is my conclusion. Interesting phenomena. F D

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Hello I'm a universal tao student since 1999. Some safety points 1 Have a certifikated teacher and go the courses 2 Learn inner smile, six healing sounds, and microcosmic meditation. Do this exercises regularly for a while. 3 Do also some moving qigong or the iron shirt. For learning to connect to the earth 4 Always circulate into the navel after ewery time you practise. 5 Take the courses with the instructors again before moving into the sexual practise. 6 Try to read ewerything about safety in Mantak Chias books. After one year of this practises on a regularly basis, several occasions ewery weak, you can learn some sexual practises. Michael Winn the leading instructor of universal tao in USA have another aproache. He says don't start any sexual practises before knowing the fusion of the five elements one. The fusion of the five elements is dealing with and ballancing your emotions. This is important to do when you are doing sexual practises especially with aroused sexual energy. The reason is that sexual enegy or Jing are expaning ewery feeling you have. So if your feelings are unballanced when you are doing the sexual practises you might make the unballances much stronger and not healthy for you and your friends. If starting with the sexual practises. Start with the testicle breathing and pehaps the scrotal compression. And with the testicle massage before learning the big draw. Learning the big draw with mastrubation and living alone for a year before doing it with a girl, if possible. Then there is needed about four years of practise within a stable relationship before comprehending the practises. While doing this do the rooting the working with emotions sounds and smile or perhaps also fusion and ordinary Microcosmic meditaion and physical exercises (western aerobics or similar or hatha yoga tao-yin, tai chi or ssomething similar) all the time regularly while working with the sexual energy. Be aware of not going to extremes. The main dangers. 1 Being afraid for you sexuality and supress it 2 owerindulgence in sexual activity. Don't let the enhanced sexual feelings ruling your life. 3 Owerly interested in reaching goals like multiple orgasmes 4 watching porn exesively 5 Don't keep the blood, an erection, for to long time. You need new blood with oxygene after awhile. Perhaps after 15 minutes it good to let the erection down. Perhaps by the big draw. Keep the midle way in this and not going to extremes. Don't be obsessed with not having ejaculations. Better to learn to draw up the energy for conservation and to find a frequency of ejaculations that suits you. There are rules according to age and healt that might suite you. Just go into 100 days practise of retention if you have good reasons. Keep away from the milion dollar point, lean the big draw instead. If using the milion dolllar do it just a few times to see how it works but don't use it as a regular practises. The big draw do it better and more safely so there is no reasons, mostly not as I see it, to use the million dollar point. To start learning big draw with a woman its easier to not have an ejaculation with an older woman, beacase she isn't as tight in her pussy and beacase she perhaps is not so sexy as a young girl. Keep your feelings balanced do all the exercises in the system if you want to gain from sexual practises. Some of the benefits: Your sexual aproval will increase manyfolds. You will feel an increased ability to stimulate a woman and that feels greate. Don't abuse woman. You will learn about your sexuality in a way you didn't think was possible. You will increase your own energy creativity and personal development in a way you didn't think was possible. You will have the possibility to be the fantastic person you where ment to be. It feels grate to have the increased sexual energy! Take the dangers seriously and just go into this if you are seriously interested in inner practises. The one year with regular practises, daily if possible, give you a hint of your atitude. Perhaps you also will feel some wery strong multiple orgasmes or full body orgasmes. A greate bonus! Be aware of any bad efects and don't continue practise sexual practises if you feel pain or wery strong unbalanced feelings. Or any sort of discomfort that last. That was some things from my experiences and from what I have read about dangers in sexual practises. I have been living as a celibate nearly the whole time since the year 2001 and have no problems with the sexual practises except one. Have done the complete 100 days two times and have tried it siriously four times. I have some problems with porn from time to time. Are on my way to start meeting girls again. F D

Hello little one Thanks for your post I liked it. It's allways feels good to here the whole story about the sexual practises. To take them seariously and to se that they are part of a bigger picture. I will safe this a reprint it on paper to my own yoga group that meet twice in a mount for taoist yoga practises from Eric S Yudeloves books. F D

Hello A true master is yourself shoosing by sincere feelings who you will listen to for advisse in your practise. F D

Hi Here is a short description of Kan and Li http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/ima...KanLiScreen.jpg F D

Hello Tibetan Ice As I have heard the energy we work with in the universal tao system has to do with kundalini. I'm not shore but perhaps the fire element in the kun and li practises is the same as kundalini? F D

Hello nhadfield I have done the MCO most of the time without synchronicing it with the breath at all. As I see it it is nice to do it with the breath and you can do it with breathing in on the back side or breathing in on the front side it doesn't matter. The natural flow of qi is up the back and down the front. The back is yang and the front is yin. Perhaps if you lissen to this its a bit more right to breath in on the back side beacase breathing in is yang and out is yin. But I realy not think its matter which. Most of the time you do the MCO the right way up the back and down the front but it could be good to sometimes do it the oposite way to clear the chanels from any blocades. Hopes this helped you F D

Hello yangluchan I have been training the basics from Mantak Chias universal tao since the year 2000. I have never had any problems with the practise not any big one anyway. So I'm not shore if I can contribute anything to your question but I will give it a try. I thing you should follow Jakaras advises to start with. Perhaps this is enough. If you still will have problems I think a wery good thing is to wiit an acupuncturist to heal any eventual blockage. There is also a description of prostata massage in the book of Dr Stephen T Chang that might help if not the problem heal itself. The book title: the tao of sexology Otherwise I myself don't realy like the book multi orgasmic man. In the sense that it is a bit more simplified if compared to Mantak Chias other books. It was a while I read it myself. I have done the sexual techniques Mantak Chia teaches but I have never done it for the reason to have multiple orgasms. I have had some experience that might be a litle bit of it anyway. I think that what I want to recomend you to do is to buy the book "taoist secret of love cultivating male sexual energy". Go a real course in healing love with a universal tao instructor and not just practise the bit of the program that teaches multiple orgasmes. If you learn the big draw the micro cosmic and some iron shirt practises and include this in your program then you won't as easily get problem. I myself is for the moment in a retention practise and have not had any loss of sperm this year. It isn't giving me any discomfort at all. I have heard that if you not want to have stagnant Jing qi during the practise it good to combine the practise with doing the testicle breathing. And also good might be to do the scrotal compression which I have learned this year. Also to ad the testicle massage is a good one if you want to hinder any problems. In my opinion to masturbate so eagerly to trying to get an multiple orgasm might be the thing that have created the imballance you seems to have. Learn to be more playful and respect the sexual energy as a wery strong force that could harm you as well as heal you. I cant realy give you advises of how to achive an multiple beacase I cant realy myself. But it isnt anything that bother me beacase this isn't the reason why I practise the mantak chias system. But I still like the possibility to have wery strong sexual energy and to feel how it helps me in my day to day life. I should also tell you that my life had been a bit different this years beacase I have had an serious illness and have been living as a celibate almost all the time since the year 2000 when I started to practise the universal tao system more seriously. In short my advise is learn the whole system and not focus to much to have a multiple orgasm. If it happens fine if not also fine. Don't use to much force when working with the pc muscle and others in the system. It isn't the force that makes things happen it's the concentration of the mind on Jing or qi and using soft squezing of the delicate muscles and movement used. Add the safety exercises I mentioned above. The point is when learning the big draw in a good way you don't need to fight so much to move the Jing from the genitals and no big forces is needed, exept perhaps just during the first moments when trying to stop the sperm to leave. Not to breath during this phase is the thing I have found the most important. Then after have been stopping the need to ejaculate, this hard fight should be ower in just a few seconds, you can go ower to soflty just move the energy with the big draw techingue away from the genitals, more or less softly and you are there. Learning this and I'm shore you are also closer to have a multiple. The thing that have given me feelings of multiple orgasms is the wery soft squezing of the first gate described by Eric Steven Yudelove in his two practise books. The first gate at the end of the penis where the urin and sperm leave the body and goes out in the woman man or air. This wery soft squecings have giving me feelings of orgasmic balls rolling up through my back all the way to the head. It feels greate but I'm not shore if this is what people mean with saying multiple orgasms. Good luck F D

Taoist lexicon, Create a taoist lexicon on this site Options Switch to: Linear+ Fire Dragon Dec 29 2007, 01:33 AM Post #1 Hello all I like the idea of retranslation of the book by C Luk and is interested in the final retranslation if it ewer is finished. I had a quite similar idea quouting myself: " Hello all When reading taoist texts there is often some dificulties knowing the exact meaning of the words. How about using this site for creating a lexicon on taoists and perhaps other like buddists terms. If you are interested we have to think about how to do this on the site. Perhaps having different threads for different subjects or words and then having someone taking care of selecting the best explanations of a word. Or perhaps having people in the site to wote for the best explanations and sort them after eachother. I don't know. What do you think about this idea? F D " This was from my thread taoist lexicon from dec 2007. No one did answer on this one. I still think it is a good idea though. To make a lexicon of terms like Mercurie ans steel or to show the similarities betwean vitality spirit and energy and gi, Jing and Shen and others. This could be done on this site. If we systematise the process and have someone responsible for the final results. Of course while working on the retranslation of Luks book we could start from theire and make a sort of lexicon from the terms arriving from the book. Well noone was interested the last time so perhaps not now either. I still like the idea of making Luks book more readable. But Im not after a simplification but more like a clearification. Its perhaps not necessary to retranslate it but more important to clearify and have clear definitions and synonymes to the terms used in the book. This could be done if some people read the book together and help eachother to find the meaniings of the terminology. Of course we would have greate help from people like taomeau that have a high understunding of many of the things describe in the book. And a good backround knowledge from basic taoists sorces like the I ching and tao the ching and others. We could start threads with each paragraph and work through the book together and then mwight could work to create a lexicon of terminology in the book and perhaps retranslate it with more convinient terminology. Sincerely F D Sincerely F D

Hello Satyagraha It seems to me like you need a teacher of the methods you are doing. There might be big risks with doing energy work if you are starting forces you not know how to deal with. If interested in meditation why not look for some schools around and start with things that are more safe? If you want to know anything about the possible dangers a recomend you this book "Kundalini the evolutionary energy in man" by Gopi Krishna. Or to look up about kundalini psychosis on the internet. Perhaps you got some good advises of how to deal with side efects from this site. But I still think it is a good way to start to look for teachers that can lead you in a safe way. What do you feel about this? To do stronge exercises with wery strong energy without knowing in what order or how to build up your body beforehand to make it prepared for this kind of energy might even damage many many years of your life in the most unpleasant way, if you are wery unlucky. So if realy interested learn the safe way most be the right thing to do. Sincerely F D

Hello For me it sound like a normal reaction to any standing practises. If you are blocked and not well rooted. Some tentions are propably loosing up and then your legs are vibrating. My gueess is that you have started or increased standing or moving practises and then this happens. Feel into it and try to see if it is something good for you. Make the practise progress slowly and not owerdo it. Let a slow change to something new take plase. This is only my guess and I think many others should know this much better. Sincerely F D

Hello all Today we learned the Orgasmic upward draw and the big draw in my group of "Yudelovians". We were talking about if it is dangerous for a not practising man to be with a woman that do the O.U.Draw on him. I think Mantak Chia says that it isn't good for a man beacase he looses much energy if a woman do the draw on him. But a woman in my group says this is not true at least if you not do the O.U.draw when the man having an ejaculation. Otherwise it's ok. So for this woman that have done some other tantric techiques and courses, she has opened the chanel quite alot and she automatically draws in and up the energy. Have any body any more knowledge about this. When is it dangerous when is it not. By the way I think Chia also says the woman might get an emotional imbalance if she do this on men. Apreciate comments from woman on the site or men to. How for woman to deal with this in a for bouth benificial way. Sincerely F D

Hello Craig. This helped me a bit. Perhaps there is not so much to worry about. I will tell the group members what you wrote, then I also will ask the healing tao instructor I will meat later on. I not see I have the hole picture jet in this matter. It will be a matter of trying to have a good sense and intuitive feeling of what is right or wrong. With a loving heart and good intention there migth not be a greate risk. Pehaps not anyway. This is the best sugestion I have to tell them for the moment anyway. Thanks F D

Hello both of you I will have to look it up in the books for myself. I have both female sexual energy by Mantak Chia and Hsi Lais Tigress books. What I have read somewhere perhaps in Mantak Chias books, dont remember from where. Is that the man has sexual energy going naturally outward and has a weaker constitution sexually than a woman. A woman is stronger sexualy and her energy goes naturally inward. Then if a woman that know this practises uses it on a man that DONT exercise or are aware of his energy she will drain him of energy beacase the practises make her much more strong than the man. She was stronger naturaly as a non practioner but if also practise and open her energy shannels she will be even much more strong and dangerous for the male. In the White Tigress practises the woman uses Green Dragons as temporaly lovers and she suck them of there energy by oral sex. Beacase of two reasons she only meet the man nine times in a row. The first reason is that she not want him to be atached to her, he is only a temporal lover used for energy puposes. The second reson is that he will be totally drained of hes sexual enegy and might be ill if she continues. It is supposed that he is healthy from the beginning. My situation why taking up this discussion is that I have a group of people training from Eric Yudeloves book "100 days to better healt , good sex and a long life". For the moment there is 5 woman and I in the group. I was telling them not to use the orgasmic upward draw with men that don't know the practises. One of the woman tells me she don't think I am right. She says it is only dangerous if the man have an ejaculation. I feel I like to know more for shore and then tell them what I have learned. We will also have a course with a universal tao instructor woman in februari so I will have a opurtunity to take up this discussion with her. And to read the books again. So little ones wise discussions doesn't realy help me with what to tell the ladies I am practising with. Beacase I think it is good for them to have as much knowledge as possible in this matter right now, beacase it is now they are learning the practises. Sincerely Fire Dragon

Hello litle one. Thanks for your reply. What I'm after is realy a knowledge for when it is good and when it is bad for a woman to do orgasmic upward draw. But was you tell me if I understund you right. The woman can feel what is right and what is wrong if she is prepered by doing the right exercises in beforehand. I belive you said something like that. That should mean that the girls in my group at least the most of them are not on the right level for learning this kind of practises. Or are there any rules that is aplicatable to do this without risks or to make the risks as small as possible. F D

Hello all My definition on Gnosticism: You see God in yourself Not Gnosticism: You see God in someone else. Jesus, Mohammed or Buddha. What do you think about this definition do you have better jet simple ones yourselves? F D

Hello all When reading taoist texts there is often some dificulties knowing the exact meaning of the words. How about using this site for creating a lexicon on taoists and perhaps other like buddists terms. If you are interested we have to think about how to do this on the site. Perhaps having different threads for different subjects or words and then having someone taking care of selecting the best explanations of a word. Or perhaps having people in the site to wote for the best explanations and sort them after eachother. I don't know. What do you think about this idea? F D