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Hello everyone. I'd like to share some new testimonials from initiated Dao Yu who are practising with their Fu Fa Shen (HFS|护法神).
I live in Semarang Indonesia and I have been initiated by one of our schools Taoist masters on 4th October 2015 in Wan Fu Gong Dao Guan, Semarang.
I have trained TYS regularly since the initiation, and I have been trained by FFS the movement like in Tai Chi Chuan. I watched the tai chi chuan video on youtube and it is similar with my TYS session, I haven't learnt tai chi chuan before.
On my initiation ceremony, the first movement were my fingers, I just relax my hand, I was not control my fingers at all and I am still conscious about, then suddenly my fingers moved. I want to test if it just my subconscious that make my fingers moved, I dropped my hands, and the fingers suddenly moved again, like giving me signal to raised my hand again. My fingers only move for 3 days after initiation, and now days have given instruction through magnetic vibration and warm cotton like wraping my hand to do move like in tai chi chuan. At early days after my initiation of my one TYS session, my breath pattern is normal and few minutes later my breathing became deep and long in inhale and exhale, it is alongside with tai chi chuan like movement.
But these day I am no longer get the change in my breath pattern. there is a day that the movement from FFS is minimal so I thought it is signal to practice Jing Zuo, there is a day that my finger also moved by crawling to my center line of my body and pressed some points in center of my chest and crawled again to massage my throat, and my face and press the point between my eyes several times, and my hand crawled again to massage my back head and back neck, I really do not control my hand at all, and this only happened once. So by the variations of the movement and sometimes there was no movement, so I conclude that the movements are not from my subsconscious (subsconscious who badly wants to feel the divine guidance movement from FFS). because if the movement is from my subconscious then there is no way, my subconscious make my hands and body didn't move. Am I correct Sir? Then hows about that my subconscious make my hands didn't move just to make me sure that it is not my subconscious who make my hands move and so I am believe and happy about FFS? but I also feel warm and cottonlike sensation wraping my hands, so my senior in Semarang said, if it was only your subconscious then you will not feel the warm sensation in your hands, is that true Sir?
And in my Lian Shen gong session, the FFS also improve my internal organ and energy line? Many times in the early days In my TYS session I feel like my whole body vibrated and like really mildly electrocauted, and there is also days that the vibration was strong. And yesterday even after my TYS session, I sometime still feel the electricity, so is the refinement process from FFS? And the process also continuing after my TYS session finished?
During my initiation process, when the master tell to repeat the Zhen Yan, maybe I was not really concentrate on it because there is also the voices from other people who repeat the Zhen Yan so the Master voice not really clear, Is my initiation sill valid and succeed Sir? My hands still can be moved by FFS though in the initiation process..
About the communication skill, have I ask to my FFS to teach me how to communicate with him?
Thank you very much Sir for your helps, I am sorry for the grammar is not good, I will ask you again about my TYS.
I have attached my photo of me and the master."
- Rayno P.
Before becoming initiated, he was required to have dialysis twice a week. As a doctor he was well aware of the severity of his own body's condition and almost lost hope in recovery.
Since he began practising Tao Yin Shu under the guidance of his Fu Fa Shen, his medical condition has gradually become better.
Since his initiation less than a year ago in the Philippines. Right now, Xie Shen En, he hasn't done any dialysis for 4 months in a row.
From twice a week to nothing for 4 months!
This is one of my favorites : )
Great work, Ned.
I would also like to take the opportunity to point out that due to Ned's initiative to better himself and help others, he supported and facilitated the first ever initiation in the Philippines, helping us to share Taoism and teach our schools spiritual guidance art; Tao Yin Shu.
My next practice session was at home in my bedroom. I tried to connect with my Fu Fa Shen and it was again very subtle at first - opening my palm outward and to the sides. but each arm was guided in different directions. I could feel lots of different stretching of my shoulders, back, arms and legs. I was seated on my bed, and my right foot was guided to raise off the ground and my big toe stretched upward while my little toe stretched downward. It was hard to believe this was happening, but it really was a light force guiding me.
In the morning I tried to practice in a standing posture, and felt a force guiding my head to tilt forward and rock back and forth, making me bend my spine. This force seemed to be quite strong giving me a whipping sensation forward that was very quick but very smooth. I could feel all sorts of popping and clicking going on in my spine. I was guided slowly lower through my spine, with the fulcrum point of bending changing at different locations, until my entire spine was doing a caterpillar wave very quickly but smoothly, I then started squatting while doing this caterpillar movement. I was a little uncertain, whether it was in my mind and I was making this up, or really being guided. But, it felt great. Eventually, the force guiding me stopped, and I felt my arms should just go down and up a few times. Then the force disappeared completely and I assumed that was the end of this practice session.
That night I was keen to try again. This time I practiced sitting on my bed like the night before. I again tried to connect with my Fu Fa Shen and it was very subtle at first guiding both palms to move outward and palms down to rest on my knees, then felt a force subtly guiding my head to rotate to the left in a very small circle slowly, this force began to build and get stronger and stronger. My entire body was relaxed, but my neck was rotating my head very quickly with out any force from me. It was so smooth. Over time, I moved through each vertebrae one by one rotating to the left in a circle, and this circle got bigger and bigger, to the point at which I was falling flat on my back and around forward to my bent knees. Around and around, but this was not gentle in any way. It was a very strong force. Then, it raised me back up to a straight spine seated position, and a very strong force pushed my head and neck forward into a whipping rotation like in my morning practice. But, it was so strong and fast. It was definitely not my own power doing this. Then it forced my head further forward towards my knees. My whole spine whipping forward very hard, so hard it through my glasses off my face and was knocking the entire bed pushing it backwards across the room. This went on for maybe 20 minutes, then a strong force pushed my head to the floor, stretching my whole spine and lower back, and forced me off the bed to softly fall into a squat, then it held me face down like this for a few minutes. Then, the force disappeared. I felt the practice session was completed. I felt great, like my whole body was nice and loose. My partner had walked into the room while I was practicing, and had been watching me. She said, it really looked crazy, I was moving with such force, and she said she thinks if some one else had seen me, they would think I was possessed. We both laughed about it. There was no denying it was a force outside myself. I have been doing QiGong for over 10 years, with a very disciplined practice of typically 3 to 5 hours per day. I am very familiar with Qi sensation, and meditation. But, this Xian Tian Shen Gong is entirely different! Really!!
I have continued to practice, and each time I am so surprised by what happens. It always starts off so subtle, I think nothing is going to happen, but the force gets clearer and stronger, often making me do exercises I would not be able to repeat on my own to even show somebody. I am very excited to see where this goes, and to make a deeper connection with my Fu Fa Shen.
RJ
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Hello and welcome to the Xiao Yao Pai thread.Xiao Yao Pai (逍遥派) is a Daoist school of spiritual cultivation, with roots dating back to the earliest formations of the Daoist way of life.It is part of Tai Shang Men (太上门); "The Supreme Gate" of Daoist transformation.Our school is the only known inheritor of the ancient spiritual system of Daoist cultivation known as Xian Tian Dao Yin Shu. Today, we share this art openly with the world, in the hope that the ancient knowledge of our school can help to build a bridge between the science of old and the science of our day.Our endeavour is to re-introduce the world to the long lost and until recent decades, considered extinct arts of ancient Daoism. We wish to equip all those seeking to embody the full potential of their existence, with the tools necessary to facilitate their journey on the path of self-discovery and spiritual growth.We invite you to join us on this remarkable revelation of a deep and most mysterious truth.A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.The Yellow Emperor Huang Di met the hermit Guǎngchéngzǐ of Kong Tong mountain ca. 2679 BC according to Zhuangzi.Guǎngchéngzǐ is believed to be the first of two incarnations of the deity Tai Shang Lao Jun, the second being the founding father of Daoism; Laozi.The story goes...Huang-Di had been on the throne for nineteen years and his ordinances were in operation all through the kingdom when he heard that Guang Cheng Zi was living on the summit of Kong Tong, and went to see him.'I have heard,' he said, 'that you, Sir, are well acquainted with the perfect Dao. I venture to ask you what is the essential thing in it. I wish to take the subtlest influences of heaven and earth and assist with them the (growth of the) five cereals for the (better) nourishment of the people. I also wish to direct the (operation of the) Yin and Yang, so as to secure the comfort of all living beings. How shall I proceed to accomplish those objects?Guang Cheng Zi replied, 'What you wish to ask about is the original substance of all things; what you wish to have the direction of is that substance as it was shattered and divided.According to your government of the world, the vapours of the clouds, before they were collected, would descend in rain; the herbs and trees would shed their leaves before they became yellow; and the light of the sun and moon would hasten to extinction. Your mind is that of a flatterer with his plausible words. It is not fit that I should tell you the perfect Dao.'Huang-Di withdrew, gave up his government of the kingdom, built himself a solitary apartment, spread in it a mat of the white grass, dwelt in it unoccupied for three months, and then went againto seek an interview with the recluse.Guang Cheng Zi was then lying down with his head to the south. Huang Di, with an air of deferential submission, went forward on his knees, twice bowed low with his face to the ground, and asked him, saying, 'I have heard that you, Sir, are well acquainted with the perfect Dao - I venture to ask how I should rule my body, in order that it may continue for a long time.'Guang Cheng Zi hastily rose, and said.'A good question! Come and I will tell you the perfect Dao:Its essence is surrounded with the deepest obscurity; its highest reach is in darkness and silence. There is nothing to be seen; nothing to be heard. When it holds the spirit in its arms in stillness, then the bodily form of itself will become correct. You must be still; you must be pure; not subjecting your body to toil, not agitating your vital force - then you may live for long. When your eyes see nothing, your ears hear nothing, and your mind knows nothing, your spirit will keep your body, and the body will live long. Watch over what is within you, shut up the avenues that connect you with what is external - much knowledge is pernicious. I will proceed with you to the summit of the Grand Brilliance, where we come to the source of the bright and expanding element; I will enter with you the gate of the Deepest Obscurity, where we come to the source of the dark and repressing element. There heaven and earth have their controllers; there the Yin and Yang have their Repositories.Watch over and keep your body, and all things will of themselves give it vigor.I maintain the original unity of these elements, and dwell in the harmony of them. In this way I have cultivated myself for one thousand and two hundred years, and my bodily form has undergone no decay.Huang Di twice bowed low with his head to the ground, and said,'In Guang Cheng Zi we have an example of what is called Heaven.'' Guang Cheng Zi said,'Come, and I will tell you: The perfect Dao is something inexhaustible,and yet men all think it has an end; it is something unfathomable,and yet men all think its extreme limit can bereached.He who attains to my Dao, if he be in a high position, will be one of the August ones, and in a low position, will be a king.He who fails in attaining it, in his highest attainment willsee the light, but will descend and be of the Earth.At present all things are produced from the Earth and return to the Earth. Therefore I will leave you, and enter the gate of the Unending, to enjoy myself in the fields of the Illimitable. I will blend my light with that of the sun and moon, and will endure while heaven and earth endure.If men agree with my views, I will be unconscious of it;if they keep far apart from them,I will be unconscious of it.They may all die, and I will abide alone!'"What is not widely known today, is that during his apprenticeship of Huang Di, immortal Guǎngchéngzǐ, directly transmitted the secrets of the ancient Daoist art of immortality to his new student. The art was called Dao Yin Shu 導引术; The Divine Guidance Art of the Xiao Yao (Pai) school of Spiritual Daoism.To honor his new path of spiritual development and establish a place where he could cultivate himself under the tutelage of his new mentor; Huang Di built Xiao Yao Guan from the precipitous slopes of the Kong Tong Mountain. Xiao Yao Guan, or Dao Guan as it came to be called, is recognized to be the first temple of China and the birthplace of Spiritual Daoism. It is believed that here, under the guidance of Guǎngchéngzǐ, the Yellow Emperor of ancient China was able to unify his spirit, revert to nothingness and achieve the mystical and pristine state of the Daoist Xian Shen (immortal spirit).Xiao Yao Guan (Xiao Yao Temple) is currently over 5000 years old and still stands today.As the inheritor of the ancient guidance art of the Dao; Dao Yin Shu 導引术, - Xiao Yao Pai; 逍遥派, embodies the principles of "Xiao Yao" transmitted by Guǎngchéngzǐ to Huang Di, and thousands of years later, continues to transmit the spiritual teachings of Tai Shang Laojun (The Grand Pure One), perpetuating the spiritual attainments of Zi Ran (Naturalness), Wu Wei (Effortless Action), Qingjing (Clarity & Stillness) and Kong (Emptiness).How is Dao Yin Shu transmitted?During an initiation ceremony (Dao Ying) - a practitioner will have his Yuan Shen (original mind) activated by a Xiao Yao Pai master. The spiritual activation unlocks, enables and enhances the perceptual faculties of the student - allowing them the necessary means to establish a two-way communication with the Celestial branch of our school; whence our curriculum and teachings are passed down in a direct transmission.The master then makes an official request to the head of our Celestial branch, the Elder Lord, Tai Shang Laojun; 太上老君, with the purpose of formally submitting the disciple to be considered for an apprenticeship and to officialise their registration into Xiao Yao Pai.The candidate is screened on a soul level and If accepted, they are energetically enveloped with the golden aura of our school and appointed a personal Hu Fa Shen; 护法神 (pronounced: Fu Fa Shen). The role of HFS is to guide and mentor the student on the path of spiritual cultivation, at their own pace, in accordance with the Dao and the curriculum of our school, which every HFS is authorized to disseminate within the area of their specialization.The golden aura of Xiao Yao Pai, bestowed upon the 'Dao Yu' (spirituality initiated disciple), while acting as a nurturing cocoon for the transmutation of the body's subtle energy, and as a repellent to malevolent entities, is also, functionally, an energetic signature of our school, similar to a uniform or a badge, which identifies us as disciples of Tai Shang Lao Jun. Those whose faculties have been adequately tuned and refined to perceive it will recognize its authenticity - while remaining obscure to the untrained. In the realm of the non-physical and to the cultivated adept, the presence of the aura around the Dao Yu, is regarded as a symbol of the highest esteem, and garners respect from Immortals and other beings alike; signifying that you are under the wing of Tai Shang Lao Jun (太上老君); also known as, Daode Tianzun (道德天尊).Each disciple's Hu Fa Shen is an ascended spiritual entity that exists in the non-physical dimension (Wuji). He, She or It, reside in a realm of being that exists beyond the duality of the physical universe (Taiji) - and are referred to as Xian Shen or Tian Shen; Spirit Immortals or Heavenly Immortals.Xian Shen and Tian Shen categorize two different 'forms' of immortals - and are distinguished from one another in that; a Xian Shen begins their 'internal alchemy' cultivation as a human being. By developing its awareness and subtle energies while residing within the physical body; the soul of the adept is trained to voluntarily leave the corporeal vessel and operate in its formless 'soul' state - giving the practitioner the choice to remain in the body and continue experiencing Taiji, or abandon it to enter the emptiness of Wuji, in the state of the fully conscious and awakened Yang Shen body. On the other hand, a Tian Shen has always existed in its formless state. They are born with the original spark of the Dao and some of them are as old as creation itself.Every immortal who wishes to take on the task of guiding a student in their spiritual cultivation must register with Tai Shang Lao Jun, to become an official Hu Fa Shen of Xiao Yao Pai; and receive authorization to teach a Dao Yu. They are not a 'random' spirit but are assigned to duty as instructors and representatives of Tai Shang Lao Jun. Each Hu Fa Shen is thus fully recognized by the highest order to impart the authentic arts of Daoist spiritual cultivation. As part of their assignment to you; your mentor will personally instruct you on how to practice Shen Gong, Qi Gong and Jing Zuo, in preparation for the advanced alchemical transformations of the spirit necessary to trigger the transmutation of Yin Shen to Yang Shen, to unite the 3 Hun (ethereal souls) and 7 Po (corporeal souls) into one; and result in the complete purification of the acquired mundane conditioning, bringing about the birth of the radiant, original mind (Yuan Shen) and the progressive development of the indestructible immortal body of Yang Shen.After the initiation, some students depending on their talents, can immediately form a telepathic connection to their Hu Fa Shen in order to advance their learning, and communicate with them unabridged from day one. These students can speak directly to Hu Fa Shen in their mind and hear their teachers voice, or see images flash before their inner vision in succession to communicate part of a lesson. Others may take a little longer, due to the overwhelming acquired conceptual belief structures acting as resistance against the natural radiance of their original mind (Yuan Shen). The state of their mental constructs and illusions, such as they are formulated by the mundane mind since birth, will determine their current clarity and their immediate ability to receive and interpret direct communication from Hu Fa Shen.This means that, those Dao Yu whom are very open minded and have minor mental barriers, are likely to have a more fluent connection at the start of their practice, however, even those who present greater resistance due to former indoctrinations and dogmas, will eventually have those barriers gradually eroded as the Divine Energy enveloping them during Dao Yin Shu practice will gently wash away negative belief patterns - enabling smoother operation of their higher faculties and increasing the "ways" in which they can communicate with their mentor. The clarity, awareness, wisdom, and openness of everyone's mind varies in unquantifiable degrees; and your mentor will adjust their approach to cater to your level, in order to assure smooth and continuous progress. All students are taught and guided by their Hu Fa Shen in accordance with their personal needs; so that the goal of immortality may be achieved, one step at a time, for everyone who is willing to put in the work, be diligent and practice regularly.As you invite Hu Fa Shen to train you every day and practice Dao Yin Shu, you will find that your mind becomes sharper and clearer. You will become more intuitive, your illnesses and ailments will gradually disappear. Your physical, energy and mind-bodies are transformed to manifest the dormant potential of your soul and support the continual functional development of your supernatural capacities.While many of today's Daoist schools pertain to the Hou Tian Xiu tradition (Post Heavenly Cultivation) and emphasize work on the three treasures of the Taiji realm; Jing (body), Qi (energy), Shen (mind), by starting from the bottom and moving up - our school follows the way of the old art and instead.This unique advantage allows us to activate our soul energies directly from day one, opening our communication to the divine realm so that we can receive detailed instructions on our path. We can afford this "springboarding" maneuver because we do not need to transform and move energy up the body from the root to the crown in order to shift our consciousness outside of the physical body - Dao Ying (spiritual initiation) achieves this on the first day.Therefore, instead of having to meticulously focus on the physical body, which was prescribed out of a necessity to prolong life in order to guarantee the requisite time for the complete development of the spirit, we can bypass that arduous and lengthy process all together, and focus directly on the only thing that remains after the body dies; the soul. From day one, we push directly into the inter-dimensional envelope of the Taiji dimension, and raise our awareness and spirit higher and higher, until it penetrates the membrane of physicality and gradually streams our awareness into the non-physical dimension of Wuji. Here the unified, non-polar ultimateness of existence may be experienced - and the spiritual capacities of our innate nature can be developed to perfection, in resonance with the source of all things.Where others may take anywhere from decades to a lifetime, and often yield no result; we succeed with relative ease - thanks to the wisdom of our Hu Fa Shen, and the courteous grace of Tai Shang, who allowed us to spread Dao Yin Shu.The Divine Guidance Art; Dao Yin Shu, is a rare part of Daoism that has been hidden for thousands of years and only passed down to royalty and high-ranking officials. For millennia, it had remained obscure to even the most knowledgeable and informed practitioners of the Daoist arts. Most practitioners who have received genuine transmissions may know about Dao Yin Shu from their own masters, however, even they believe it to be long extinct. By most accounts, people today, even those who claim to be the most devout, will seldom ever even know of its existence. It is a mystery to most.Recently, the Chinese government, through the Taoist Association of China, made an officialeffort to recover the lost information of China's ancient clans, in order to preserve its history.In their findings, they discovered Xiao Yao Pai to be listed in 33rd place in order of foundation.The list can be found in White Cloud Temple (Bai Yun Guan).For the first time in 1970, our Grandmaster, Lie Shang Hu was granted permission by Tai Shang Lao Jun to share our art and we began openly transmitting the treasure of Xian Tian Dao Yin Shu to the public, and across the world, ending our millenia old seclusion as a traditional closed-door Daoist school.After experiencing the physical, energetic and spiritual benefits of the ancient art, year after year, many new disciples were initiated and our school grew in numbers. Today, there are practitioners of Dao Yin Shu spread throughout the many provinces of Indonesia, most of which are active in traditional Chinese Temples and many others who choose to practice Dao Yin Shu in the privacy of their own homes.In 1996, the first official Tai Shang Men (The Supreme Gate Clan) temple was established in Lampung, Sumatra and Xiao Yao Pai finally had a home that was open to all. As a testament to the school's success, today, there are over 15 Tai Shang Men temples all around Indonesia. By the year 2000, the Indonesian Daoist Association was founded (PUTI), as an organization which would help to manage it's over 20,000 active and practicing disciples. In 2014, over 100,000 disciples were practicing the Divine Guidance Art and growing steadily, all by word of mouth and the remarkable testimonials of the many transformed.After much consideration, in 2007 our Grand Master gave us permission to introduce our ancient art to the west, and in 2009 we held the first initiation ceremony in the USA, heralding a new era of Xiao Yao Pai and what we sincerely believe to be a new age in the spiritual evolution of humankind.Today there are over 140,000 practicing Dao Yu, each under the guidance of an authorized Hu Fa Shen.We have shared Dao Yin Shu in: The United States of America, Australia, The Philippines, The United Kingdom, Singapore, China and Indonesia.
Now and for the third time, in 2016, a remarkable opportunity to inherit Dao Yin Shu is coming directly to the US and UK.From one spiritual practitioner to another, If you are serious about your cultivation, don't miss this transformational and life-changing opportunity. We sincerely hope this ancient art can become a light for humanity and awaken everyone to the reality of their original nature.Don't forget to visit our facebook group, where we have many discussions.Best wishes.-
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This is an interesting topic and I think there is often a lot of confusion about picking one over the other, but I believe that this difficulty of choice results from a fundamental misunderstanding of the root differences inherent in both ways of life; because once you comprehend it, you will see how clearly contrary both are to one another - and the choice would always be simple to make, but this is how it is; when we are unclear about something; it is difficult to make a choice. Is it no so?
The simple answer in my opinion is this:
Buddhism is founded on the belief that life is suffering and altogether an experience which should be escaped in order to achieve liberation.
- This concept nurtures and supports the development of an attitude in practitioners which, while not entirely nihilistic, doesn't create any architecture to encourage one to live life to its fullest. Rather, one becomes perpetually impregnated by the idea of being born into a world which can never offer anything more than sickness, pain, old age, death and good old suffering #funtimes #whybother #whereistheexit
Why is this such a problem? - Because it programs practitioners into becoming passive contributors to society. After all, why would you bother with developing society when by definition the universal law of samsara is the suffering of impermanence. Better to dedicate as much time as I can to getting the hell out of here, right?
With the exception of Zen Buddhism in countries like Japan, which is very strongly influenced by Taoism, almost every major country of early adopters of Buddhism, which have it as it's primary religion, suffers from some form of poverty, underdeveloped civilisation, sub-standard social infrastructure and unacceptable forms of inequality.
To really understand and experience Buddhism, you have to become a monk or a nun - and that demands that you abandon society and minimize your contribution to the human race. As far as I am concerned, that is existential suicide and a disservice to your higher self.
Here we are these amazing beings, eternal souls manifest by will into this finite body of flesh and blood to transform the very fabric of existence, just waiting to explode source from our very core and shake and vibrate every being in our proximity like a blast wave of cosmic godhood, changing minds, influencing lives and impacting humanity through the power of our imagination and multidimensional consciousness - but, hey... lets avoid this, it's just full of suffering. Instead, lets symbolically shave our heads in discard of the very thing we came here to experience, put some robes on, and live the rest of our lives in a small barren room, reciting texts, chanting and taking care of our own preconceived ideas of life.
Right speech, right view, right intention, right action, right this right that...Very many rules... the more rules you have, the more ritualised a discipline becomes. The more ritualised it becomes, the easier it is to miss the mark and deviate entirely into religious territories and there is a HUGE difference between Spiritualists, Philosophers and Religionists within the major traditions.
If there is so much right... then whatever else must be wrong...
Taoism, does not see things this way. Right and Wrong, are Yin and Yang, and part of nature. Every situation is relative.
Here's what's unpalatable to me about the foundation of Buddhism.... Shakyamuni, was a prince. He lived a lavish life and saw nothing but the best of what the world had to offer. He had the nicest house, the nicest food, the nicest drinks, the nicest girls and the nicest most pimped out elephants you can think of in leu of cars. We can thank his over protective dad for all that. By all standards, this man was biased as they come. He was more biased than Donald Trumps toupe. Anyone who only sees one side of the coin in a realm of duality, and does so for 29 solid years before he begins to perceive nature as it is, is indisputably BIASED to the ways of the world.
He was nearly 30 when he left the palace for the first time. In other words, he was a grown ass man with some pretty solid ideas already formed about his subjective understanding of reality, and that sort of idiosyncratic psycho-emotional complex is not really the sort of slate you can just wipe clean with some cheap windex. As I'm sure you all know by now, it can take hard work and a long time to polish that stone clean again.
OF COURSE, when he leaves the palace on his chariot and is faced with the reality of sickness, aging and death, the rosy pink glasses are blown right off his face and he concludes that all life has to offer is suffering. Nothing surprising here...
But I ask you the members, who of us here who has lived every year of their life in the midst of society and experienced life unabridged, lived every pain, every loss, every fight for survival, overcome every triumph, suffered every humiliation and stood up to face your fears, can tell me that life is not also full of love, of compassion, of wisdom, of understanding, of joy, of laughter, of boundless curiosity and unmeasurable creativity, of music, of dance, of ecstasy and orgasmic pleasure.
Who here who was not deprived of his right to live freely, can concur with Buddha and affirm that life is but a suffering so torturous that even within its pain there can be found no constant to lighten it's burden, and that our greatest aid in this mechanism of experience to lessen our karmic ache is the microscopic glimmer of relief presented in the pause between our constant migration from the foul end of one misery to the better end of another - granted to us as a reward for our resilience and our choice to be here. So detestable, repulsive and frightening is it, that from the heights of the suffering it induces and our comprehension of it, we can actually give birth to compassion towards others, so that we can climax in the joining and recognition of their own suffering in a petulant concert of universally orchestrated mutual existential self pity.
Have you ever contemplated the psychological repercussions of clay moulding your view of life around the ideology that for the duration of our natural physical lives we are inescapably subjected, even imprisoned by and immersed into this three dimensional world whose entire volume resembles a thick ectoplasmic goo of inescapable suffering? What sort of mindset does that create? Is it a positive view? Is it a negative view? Is it a neutral view? I will let you contemplate it.
I myself would argue that it is most certainly a negative one.
Alright.. now why does all this REALLY matter when it comes to energetic and spiritual cultivation?
In my experience, EVERY, SINGLE belief formed and held and fed through ritual and habit WITHIN the acquired consciousness (mind) of the individual, contributes to manifesting a collective consensus consciousness. Something that is the product of like minded ideas and emotions which cohese together to create a particular vibration of energetic potential. When enough of these self-created energetic potentials pool, they have the power to integrate themselves into union and actually manifest as an experienceable reality to which we can tune into like the frequency dial on a radio. These dimensions can turn into, for the lack of better phraseology, an energetic abode or landing zone for those minds whom subscribe to the respective thought pattern. Depending on the quality and purity of the ideas, these can leapfrog and propel certain aspects of our consciousness into the non-energetic dimension after and even before the death of the physical body. How pure and clear these ideas are will determine how deep they can penetrate into the depth of the Tao to establish a locale for the foundation and preservation of the collective belief.
That is why, the MIND is the limit, but it is also our primary tool.
It is like a tuning fork. Put two together and strike only one and they will both begin to resonate at the same frequency. Be careful, what sound is being sung around you, does it open your mind, does it close it, or does it form it into a specific shape? - And most importantly how far can we take form into the formless realm? Can it enter at all? Think about it. You mind must be formless. It is like a formless key that enters a formless gate, nothing else shall pass.
This is very important, because it means that the NATURE of thought and the NATURE of the founding views of any religion directly correlate with the frequency to which the mind of the practitioner is attuned and then fixed; and the respective vibration will directly channel them into the non-physical reality to which they have affiliated and bound their consciousness to; and we will ultimately become that reality.
So my question is this, based on Buddhas biased view of life, through which he derived the theory of suffering and which he used as the foundational basis for the construction of what later became Buddhism - HOW deep, or if you prefer, how HIGH will locking your mind to that frequency and vibration of thought help you penetrate into the ultimate nature of reality, which is, well.. unbiased, non dual and non polar? Do you think it can take you all the way? It is an important question to consider and perhaps one of the reasons for which there have been long discussions about the merits of Buddhism as a complete practice as opposed to a spring board into higher practice.
Earlier I spoke about civilisation and I want to touch on it again, because as a Spiritual Taoist, I believe very strongly in our value as human beings and our ability to contribute to developing civilisation, improving living conditions and helping humanity evolve spiritually, but also socially, ethically, technologically, as humanitarians and as philanthropists.Because of the remarkable influence religion has on the people of the world, it AUTOMATICALLY, becomes responsible for the effect it has on humanity. It's just like having a twitter account. If you have 5 followers, it's not a big deal, you can fart around and not care much about what you say, but if you have 5 million followers, you're painting with a much broader and heavier brush, and the strokes you make, whether you post pictures, videos, or textual tweets, will impact and influence all those individuals on a personal level - and you now become something much more; a powerful idea, a dream, an aspiration; and when you have such power, you must recognize that and decide on how you will change the world. Will it be for the better or for the worse?
I measure and valuate anything by what it does to help people and advance humanity - and religion does not fall short of this judgement. So, when I look at Buddhism, I ask myself - how did the Buddha help civilisation develop as a direct result of his ideas? How did he balance worldly life with spiritual life? Maybe I am uninformed, but I cannot find many ways in which he contributed to that.
I once asked a zealous Buddhist practitioner the very same question, and he said Buddha taught his disciples how to wipe after doing a number 2 and brush their teeth. Till this day I don't know if he was being sarcastic or he actually meant it, perhaps someone can clarify this.
The attitude which these teachers instil in their students directly influenced their perception of life and directly changed the way in which they behaved, because of this I think Jesus did a FAR better job as a spiritual leader compared to Buddha, because despite both having talked about compassion, Jesus's ideology was founded on love. It was a positive message, which encouraged a positive view of life and not a negative one - and maybe it's just coincidence, who knows, but the majority of countries who adopted Christianity as a primary religion, have been very active in social reform, political growth, technological innovation, most of their countries have solid infrastructure and Christians are generally very pro-active get it done sort of people. The attitude towards life is a positive one, not a negative one. Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass, you tell me?
If we try to interpret all this from a Taiji perspective, I would say that Buddhas way is very Yin and leads to a passive and negative attitude towards physical life. There is no embracing of worldly life, no Yang.
It is only when the two merge together in harmony that can we pierce into truth.
Taoism on the other hand, in particular the Spiritual Taoists who were just sages and hermits and existed way before the formation of Religious Taoism have a very different view of life. Physical existence to a Taoist, well... it just is. There is no prejudice or bias. We don't think it's negative or positive. It is what you make it. Buddha decided to make it a negative thing and because of this in my opinion transformed his teaching into a mild form of spiritual extremism.
Taoists on the other hand have always sought harmony.
The physical experience was to be merged with the spiritual to bring about complete unification of Yin and Yang and reveal the fundamental non-polar nature of Wuji.
Ancient Taoists hermits didn't start in the royal palace, although some of them climbed quite high on the social ladder. They were in nature and in life from the get go. They observed it in all its true colours, the good with the bad. Health and Sickness, Youth and Old Age, Birth and Death. To them this was the natural cycle of nature. They understood that all things were this way and they adopted the fundamental concept of Yin and Yang that govern the waxing and wanning of all happenings in the Tao. They recognized duality and pierced into Wuji to unravel the ultimate truth. They did this not by going to spiritual extremes, out of shock or fear of some sudden realisation, but by becoming one with the nature that was all around them since birth, and by following the balance of nature, they learned to attain levels of supernatural vigour, perception and wisdom.
So the fundamental difference here between the two is that while Taoism begins from a neutral point and directly focuses on harmonizing Yin and Yang (Taiji) to revert to Wuji, Buddhism is biased through a negative mind construct from the start, which directly impacts the level of possible realisation, because Sakyamunis mind was already formed in one direction, while the mind of the Taoist sage was in the centre. It might sound like a insignificant difference, but when you appreciate the importance and influence of mind in spiritual work, you will understand how big a contribution in makes to what is attainable.
When we look at Taoism and civilisation... well... I don't even know where to begin.
Because Taoism encouraged living life, experiencing life, understanding, investigating nature and investigating ones self; this attitude lead to a plethora of technological innovations which revolutionised Chinese civilisation, things such as herbology, accupuncture, herding, massage, qigong, taiji and countless others. All these were invented in an effort to make life easier and more enjoyable. They were methods to prolong life not to escape it and they helped to increase the positive experience of life and advance humanity and civilisation.
Furthermore, Spiritual Taoism has no dogmas. There are no rules to follow, no books to read, no right way or wrong way. No paths. Taoism is the way of no way. The path of no path. Even Laozi said Tao Ke Tao Feichang Tao (The Tao That Can Be Explained Is Not The True Tao). Even so, millions have flocked to do just the opposite of that, and take his writings to be the be it all of Taoism.
Please don't forget that, many of the teachings we follow today were authored thousands of years ago to cater to the people of the time, their minds, their wisdom, their culture and their level of civilisation. Do not look to the old books blindly. Those guys are long dead. Take what is useful, discard what is useless, add what is specifically your own. Bruce Lee said something like that. THAT, is the only way to advance civilisation, and not by becoming clones of a wisdom designed to open the minds of humans several thousand years ago. Although many of these wisdoms are valid today. I urge you to open your mind and develop your own wisdom through the exploration of life, just like the masters of yore. Do not lock yourself within the diapazon of their own wisdom such as they shared it with us through writing. Take it and go beyond even! There is no limit. This is the difference between being a follower and being a Spiritual Taoist.Always remember that every moment of our existence every breath we breathe, every action we take whether good or bad are all part of the Tao and contribute to our inevitable evolution. We bare the consequences of all our actions and when it comes to life we grab the bull by the horns.
As Taoists, we can eat what we like and have sex, start a family and contribute fully to society with our skills. We can run a successful business, deal with money, build corporations and help advance civilisation. There are no rules, only actions and consequences. The world is our oyster.
MOST importantly, we do not encourage anyone to run from or escape worldly life and society.
Instead we combine and merge the physical with the spiritual. Harmony is the most direct path to non-duality. If you lean too far to one side or the other.. the momentum will keep the wheel of Samsara spinning. The key is what vibration you tune your mind to.
There is no escape from existence, this is part of it.
Believe me, you chose to be here. You WANT to be here. Find out why!
Do you think that after you attain immortality you can come down to earth and save everyone on the planet with your godly powers? haha. That's not how it works. Taiji has laws and rules, Wuji also has laws and rules. The Taiji dimension is the playground of souls. The university of life. This is training day.
Let me tell you what you'll do when that day comes for you. You'll choose to do the one thing you won't believe, and that is reincarnate again by entering Taiji through a natural birth so you can help other people awaken to their original nature. Not as a god, not as spirit, but again as this body of flesh.
Don't underestimate your value. We all have worth. Some of you are already realised immortals and the soul in your current body is simply a projection of your non-physical self which is already dwelling in the emptiness of the Tao, and you are guiding countless beings through your wisdom in different galaxies in different bodies all simultaneously. What, you never thought you might already be an immortal and the soul in this body is just an extension from your realised body residing in emptiness? Well.. mind blown. Trust me when I said this. There is no limit to your wonder.
If people like Buddha and Jesus Christ who gave and dedicated their lives to saving and liberating mankind then ascended and became gods and immortals. Then why didn't they just come back in an instant and awaken everyone with their powers in one go? Because there are laws... and some laws, even immortals can't break lest they be punished. So do not think lightly of yourself. You are a miracle of divine power here to manifest the truth of the ultimate reality in the hearts of others. Start with a spark and turn it into the fire of spiritual transformation : )
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Hi Arkx6,
We are not a school of Philosophical Taoism or Religious Taoism.
We only practice the Spiritual side of Taoism.
In very blunt terms; to practitioners of our school, that means that anything we can't experience through our own cultivation and our own direct perception, derived from our personal investigation, examination and understanding of a matter is either unverified theory or bullshit. "Woo Woo" if you will.
Even in the Tao Te Ching, Laozi said - The Tao that can be described is not the true Tao.
The mind cannot grasp what is beyond the diapason of it's function; and there is much that is beyond.If you read about sugar in a book, you cannot compare the experience to putting sugar in your mouth.
One brings about wisdom, the other promotes blind faith and blind faith can lead to religious inclinations which trap the awareness from expanding naturally.If we want to find out about something, we have to find a way to experience it and prove it for ourselves.
Otherwise, your beliefs will always based on the experience of someone else and not those of your own life.
Whether these are someone else's experiences which you read in a book, watched in a movie or listened to on tape, they are still someone else's personal experiences, so why waste your time with it? Is it because you want encouragement?
Here, I'll give it to you... Here it comes. - "Everything is possible, and every possibility has a consequence".
Now the world is your oyster! How will you open it? You have to find the way.
You have to create your own experience and determine the truth for yourself - through yourself.
This is the only valid point of view if you want to expand your wisdom as opposed to fortifying your ignorance and conceptual notions supported by blind faith in the lifetimes of others.
Best wishes.
Xuan
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First of all, she's a woman she doesn't have any jing. Jing comes from a man's equipment. From his fireman.From his alchemy. Second of all,where is her husband? Why isn't he taking care of you two? Post about it, please.
Don't be mislead by this statement if you are a novice.
JING is found both in men and in women, both in it's Hou Tian and it's Xian Tian state.
IF you don't have JING, you are dead.
In the Taiji realm it manifests most directly as the lowest resonating frequencies of matter in our body ie:
- Bones, Muscles, Tissue, Vessels, Fascia, Hair, Hormones, Marrow, Nails, Blood, Sperm, Cerebrospinal Fluid, Phlegm, Tears etc.
The essence within Jing and not the physical medium of the Jing, such as the substances listed above; can be used to trigger the initial process of alchemy when heating up the Xia Dantien and starting the fire of alchemical transformation. It's accumulation, purification and stilling can bring us closer to experiencing the congenital Xian Tian essences of the human matrix and allow us to progress into genuine Hou Tian Nei Dan Shu.
People who do not know what they are talking about, should not be speaking with such an authoritative and didactic tone, especially to someone who is in an emotional state of mind.
There needs to be a reformation in TTBs to promote better quality control, because this is not just a website for ramblings, but also a platform where people come to learn; and it has the power to influence the minds of new Taoists into improper understanding and practice without due attention or the experience to discern things clearly.
Be weary of what you read and inform yourself from multiple sources if you choose to take someone's word for fact without personal experience.
There are many knowledgeable members on this forum. I urge novices to inform themselves for their own safety and ease of progress in Taoist practices.
Refer to what Marblehead and Taoist Texts offered as a consideration.
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Hi effilang,
Sure. Please tell me how to get in touch.
Sunshine
You can message me on FB: https://www.facebook.com/effilang
It won't take more than 10 minutes.
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Why do you think it means she loses jing?
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That is very interesting can i enquire as to your sources? Sounds like i would like a read of them. I have to say i dont believe in karmic laws to the extent you are describing but i can see the spiritual benefit of acting from such a point of view. I would be interested in hearing more on the Fu Fa Shen who guides your school in their Nei Dan
My source and the source of every Tao Yu in our school is the divine. We cultivate directly with divine energy by establishing a spiritual connection to an immortal teacher or mentor god; Fu Fa Shen, also known as a Taoist Xian Shen.This connection is enabled by a cultivator authorized by Tai Shang Lao Jun to transmit the ancient art of Tao Yin Shu; divine or spiritual guidance art.
Different students, have different Fu Fa Shen. It is not one Shen that teaches.
There's more information which I've posted in the event section of the forum, you can visit it by clicking the link in my signature to which it is linked.
In Hou Tian Nei Dan Shu, the path of refinement is as such:
- JING > QI > SHEN and when you raise your awareness to the highest level of SHEN, you can try to break your consciousness out of Taiji and enter Wuji, where you may find a Xian to guide you higher.
In Xian Tian Nei Dan Shu, the refinement takes place as in Taoism of old, through divine guidance and a Taoist Xian Shen is responsible for the transmission of the Tao from day 1. The path of cultivation is something like this:
- FU FA SHEN > WUJI > SHEN > QI > JING > YANG SHEN > KONG
Because of this we develop our spiritual capacities first and as long as the body is kept healthy enough to support further refinement, your 7 Po and 3 Hun will daily solidify into one unit, fundamentally eliminating separation of any form and returning back to the one Tao of origination.
In Xiao Yao Pai, we don't believe anything unless we can experience it or prove it; so I can appreciate your comment. You may not believe in the natural laws of Taiji, but they believe in you. Every action and inaction leaves a footprint.
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Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know.
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So id like to discuss the Taoist path to spiritual immortality vs reincarnating and aquiring wisdom and experience from many lifetimes.
I think that death is part of life and reincarnation brings wisdom and growth and is a path to spiritual evolution.
But if we look at internal alchemy and the goal of becomming an immortal...is there evolution for immortals? Is there a different type of evolution that occurs for them?
Is reincarnation desirable to you?
I have to say i have endured so much pain in my life would i reincarnate if i had a choice? I dont know.
Discuss reincarnation vs taoist immortality.
The evolution of the eternal soul is endless, reflecting the infinite nature of the Tao.
There is a continuous and ongoing refinement which takes place without cessation.
Refinement does not begin or end with the physical body, but the conditions around which the physical body finds itself in Taiji are usually more conducive to a highly increased rate of development, respective to the spirit occupying the physical vessel.
Basically, one of the governing rules of Taiji is that of karma. Actions and relative consequences.
They tie us together energetically and create a dynamic of taking and giving where a debt is paid or accumulated.
The debt to another soul can be the result of pain you may have caused them, lies, hurt, death, cheating and so on.
Essentially you can look at it in terms of negative and positive "points" if you will. Each point is shared between two or more individuals or groups of individuals.
From a practical point of view, your concern with the positive is that you accumulate more of it by performing good deeds, this creates Gong De or merit if you will, which can then be converted into spiritual skills and energy through spiritual cultivation. So there are two factors, Gong De and Spiritual Cultivation.
If you have strong Gong De, accumulated through good deeds, you will have a positive balance, but even so this does not mean you have become an immortal and certainly performing good deeds alone will not grant you this level of attainment, otherwise mother Theresa would be a Xian. What it can grant you however is a choice after death, where you can select where to reincarnate next, or if you'd like to hold of on doing that for some time. How good a life you can pick will depend on your Gong De and how strong your positive balance is. This option is only available to souls with a very strong positive balance, having performed many good deeds. Some of these may even be completely positive, "SAINTS" if you will, but being governed by Taiji law, they are still required to reincarnate. They cannot escape it.
So Gong De is just one aspect of the formula of liberation.
The second is spiritual cultivation, which requires a method and a particular course of practice. Such a method is Nei Dan, which helps to transform the acquired condition, revert back to the original nature and unify the whole existential complex into one solid manifestation of the Tao; one that is free of separation on any level, not by mind, not by body, not by energy. When one moves at this level, they move their whole being as one unit, expressing their nature directly and without the refraction of the acquired mind and states. This is when one can become a pure projection of the Tao while also maintaining their own individuality.
If one combines Gong De to purify their deeds and pay their debts to others in this life and from former and combines that with spiritual cultivation to develop the Yang Shen body, then one can make very good progress.
Bear in mind the Yang Shen body of Taoist immortality is not something that is achieved a kin to flicking a switch on.
It's not the result of some progressive accumulation of energy which then suddenly goes pop and there you are. On the contrary, it is a gradual achievement which comes about in phases and levels of development as one progresses through their spiritual cultivation.
When one develops their Yang Shen to a sufficient level, not even the highest level capable within a human body is necessary; then one after death will have full conscious awareness of themselves and their formless original nature. If at this state of their development after death, one has extinguished all their negative karma, by repaying debts to those owed, then one has no obligation to return to the physical realm.
That is to say that, even if you achieve a particular level of Yang Shen cultivation which allows you to consciously free yourself of the Taiji law, so that you are no longer subject to the current of reincarnation into the physical dimension, BUT you still haven't paid all your debts, then the job is not yet complete and you will have several options:
1. Locate the souls currently expressing themselves in a physical body, to which you owe a debt, then wilfully chose to reincarnate through the natural law of Taiji; enter a new womb and be born of natural birth that you can coincide yourself with that soul in that life and give yourself the opportunity to pay back your karmic debt. When you are done, after you die, you can return to your formerly achieved formless state.
- now for logical reasons, not everyone you may owe a debt to may currently be physically manifested in Taiji, because they may have just died or may have other responsibilities, which means that for Shen in this situation the predicament is that they will have to wait until the soul is ready to be born, before they can reincarnate to meet them and neutralize the debt.
- there also exists an option for a newly formed Xian, where rather than having to enter Taiji again through the womb of the mother, then can choose to neutralise the debt by heeding the calls to aid the soul or souls to which they owe a debt that are currently manifested in the Taiji realm. This answer can be to a prayer or simply some form of a request, depending on the nature of the debt, the Shen can choose to use his acquired merit and skill to emanate into Taiji in a physical body, using Yang Shen skill and interact with that person and soul in order to help them and repay the debt.
This situation is dependent on the type of the debt, because some debts are light while others are heavy. Some can be lessened or broken up into smaller debts, while others cannot be touched in any way, by law of Taiji. One example of such a debt is the debt of life, which is acquired by killing someone. Death is repaid by death, because the value of life cannot be paid back in any other way. Under these circumstances a new Xian, or a cultivator who has developed his Yang Shen sufficiently; after death, will have no other option but to enter Taiji again through a natural birth. In this case, an emanation or an imitation body by reducing it's frequency to match physical matter will not suffice. The body that dies must be real and it must feel the pain and the suffering of death. The weight of these emotions and experiences is the value which derives wisdom and also the currency through which we can neutralise our respective debt.
Once a novice Xian has paid of all it's debts, It is completely liberated.
Now, that's not to say that IT MUST paid it's debts immediately or else... no in fact after you have attained the formless state, you can continue to cultivate yourself and accumulate Gong De by helping beings across the fabric of existence, BUT, sooner or later you will have to neutralise all your debts, whether you want to do it 500 years from the life during which you attained Yang Shen or 1000 years later, you will still have to do it. Nobody can escape the law of Taiji, not even those in Wuji, it is the law of the Tao.
But if the remaining debt is light, then the Shen will have an option to simply repay it while in it's formless state by some manner of guidance, vision, dreams, or even a physical emanation with an imitation body, should it chose to spend it's energy to maintain the projection into Taiji from Wuji where it resides.
Reincarnation is very important and to the eternal soul, the physical body is a VERY desirable state to be in, because it allows for the expedient cultivation of Yang Shen, the acquirement of Wu (wisdom), the accumulation of Gong De through good deeds and the OPPORTUNITY to coincide with souls who owe you a debt or to whom you owe one, in order that the karma can be neutralised. Otherwise we will remain tied to the Taiji dimension of duality, endlessly trapped in the cyclic current of Yin and Yang.
So the start of spiritual cultivation begins with taking responsibility for our actions.
Learning to love and accept our body so that we can take care of it and be healthy and strong.
When we are healthy and strong, we want others to be healthy and strong; this is the seed of Gong De.
From here we then begin to perform humanitarian acts and charity, offering assistance to others in myriad ways and making an active effort to make life better and better for all forms of consciousness.
When we combine this with spiritual cultivation, one can then say that you are on the path of dual cultivation of Xing and Ming to achieve complete liberation.
After you have extinguished your karmic debts and have also achieved Yang Shen, you are free to do what you will.
There are plenty of things to do. You can even apply for a job in the non-physical dimension and assume the form of a guide or a teacher to instruct others in spiritual cultivation, becoming something like the Fu Fa Shen in our school who guide us in Nei Dan, while they accumulate merit from doing so.
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Hi everybody, another post on Xiao Yao Pai,
I read all posts on this forum and I didn't understand many things.
Hello
I read many experiences about people that took the initiation, had great time, but then no other reviews from long time disciples.
Looks like everyone is interested in the special effects of this initiation and then stop.
Can anybody explain me how the school works after some years, if there are other benefit and so on?
The reason for this is the nature of the practice of Tao Yin Shu.
The transmission of Taoism is is carried out directly between yourself and your Fu Fa Shen(s) and it is catered to your personal constitution.
If everyone had a Math teacher who came to their house to give them 1 on 1 lessons, then there would be no need for people to gather under one roof in a classroom. A natural result of this is that social activity is somewhat reduced. There are many things we can talk about to give us a new perspective, but the bulk of work takes place while you practice together with your Fu Fa Shen; usually at home.
If you have a friend of a family member who is also a Tao Yu, it's great to practice together.
Sometimes someone else's Teacher, can chip in and help you during your session. I have experienced it myself in different ways. When there is more than one Xian present, the energy in the room amplifies.
The practice is also very personal, because Fu Fa Shen can see your mind, your secrets, your past deeds and your intentions. Because of this, It is easier for your teacher to work directly on releasing the tightly wound knots of the acquired minds' conceptions in order to bring about an unabridged experience of your true self.
Correcting and realigning acquired attitudes, fears, beliefs and other creations brought about by your experiences, is for the most part related to very personal events in your life. Unraveling these rigid emotional structures and congestions within the system is usually an intense and challenging, experience, which most people prefer to keep private. As you practice, your mind will become more and more like that of the child. You will feel happy. You will find yourself not judging things. An openness and understanding towards all things will develop and your attitude to life will become easy going and carefree. That is why our schools' name is "Xiao Yao" Pai. It points to the condition we attain through practice.
When physical corrections are necessary within the body, these tend to take place during your scheduled Tao Yin Shu sessions with your teacher. So you will need to invite them for those to take place. Although on certain occasions, an immediate physical adjustment may need to be made which requires the synchronization of other bodily processes. These can happen spontaneously, or your Fu Fa Shen can warn you about it before hand, so you don't look funny in public.
Other refinements which are not physically and visibly expressed, such as adjustments in the function and operation of the subtle physical energies in the body, will generally take place all the time, and as your sensitivity begins to increase, you will feel not only the physical movements, but also the meridian energy and mind energy movement, as it is cleared of negative conditioning and obstructions, which are contributing to the dampening of communication with your Yuan Shen and the formation of Yang Shen, through the fusion of Hun and Po. All of which are processes that take pace while you Siu Tao.
So if you don't see many people posting testimonials, it is because the experiences are personal.
The few testimonials that we have, I have asked Tao Yu to contribute personally. The things that happen during practice are most of the time too extraordinary to communicate publicly, so people keep to themselves in order not to be judged and thought of as crazy people
Just be modest and keep going. Not everyone needs to know about your personal stuff, and those that are interested can ask. It is better this way.
Practice keeps going over the years. Expanding and developing in many ways. Your awareness and your spiritual skill expand, your wisdom increases and you continuously fuse your Hun and Po together, until the negative condition is wiped out, the Yin Shen is transformed and Yang Shen remains. It is a gradual, guided transition with many benefits, but our skills is developed in Wuji, not in Taiji, so if you're looking to manifest energy within the physical body, for physical use, rather than Spiritual application, you will be slowing yourself down, which in my opinion is pointless as the physical body will die anyway. All you need to do with the physical body, is just keep it healthy. A normal standard will do just fine to support the spiritual work.
I'm very interested in it, looks like this school is offering a "faster" way, with the great help of a Xian Immortal, a direct connection with the root of Taoism, direct work on the shen energy from the first day...sounds amazing, but we know that sometimes faster is not better.
You're right. Faster is not always better, but in this instance It is.
The only way to know if what I'm saying is true, is to prove it yourself.
My words could very well be lies. Only your direct experience has a claim to truth.
Yep I'm very skeptical, but how to know that it is a real Immortal Spirit that wants my evolution?
Is there a real Immortal available for any Xiao Yao Pai disciple?
100000 disciples, 100000 Immortals?
It's quite simple. You can judge this by the fruit of practising Tao Yin Shu.
So when it develops, just look at the benefits, how your wisdom develops, the skills your acquire and how you feel. Use your internal compass.
In terms of how the Shen teach. It is not 1 immortal per apprentice.
They can actually split into many copies of themselves. During a recent initiation one Tao Yu got paired with Er Lang Shen, whom he could see in his mind during the initiation. He actually didn't know who it was, but later when we were explaining some things about some of the main Shen, and showed a picture of a few immortals he immediately recognized him.
He is not the only Tao Yu who is currently studying with Er Lang Shen, there are 1000s. So number and speed is not an issue. They have transcended space-time all together.
Great opportunity or great fiction?
Only you can say.
And is this initiation really safe?
Is this spiritual connection really free from risks?
Yes. There are no risks, but not every initiation is the same.
The experience of connecting to the non-physical realm so quickly (seconds), for some people can be really emotionally overwhelming. For many people, this is something they have been searching for all their lives. Proof of the "other" world.
We are all in search of our origin and our purpose. These questions are at the core of our being. To finally create such an authentic connection to a path which has the tools to offer you answers, and in such a direct fashion, is something which I think your very soul can feel at the time of initiation and it is joyous in celebration it. Many people cannot contain themselves and immediately start crying.
Some people being to cry even if a high level Tao Yu from our school just walks past them, as the impact of their aura is overpowering. Even if they have never seen them before or don't know who they are. Such people are very sensitive to energy.
Sometimes we have people come to the initiation who are possessed. They have been struggling all their life with it and their soul has constantly been searching for a way to get rid of the spirit. The person may not even know they're possessed, but their higher self guides them to initiation.
During such times, the initiations can get a little "different" as a lot of activity begins to take place on a spiritual level. Confrontations by the spirit, fights etc. - They always leave though, because they acknowledge the status of our school in the celestial realm. Those whom were possessed become healed this way and finally begin to live normal lives. Sleeping well for the first time in many years, their appetite for life comes back, they become happy etc. - We had a case like this in the Philippines recently.
Sometimes, it's not even necessary to tell the person, because they can become scared.
So we just deal with it during the initiation. Some people with the eye to see what is going on, will see it, most other Tao Yu will just continue their initiation oblivious to what is going on in the room on a spiritual frequency. They just can't see it with their eyes.
This is one reason why we don't do initiations by distance.
We have to be there to buffer and administrate these situations when they occur and also to help establish the correct attitude towards what is taking place, because like I said, people can get very emotional. Feel scared or start crying. It is a thrilling experience, but the same goes for anything new, even bungee jumping.
There are never any strings attached, so if a person feels that they don't want to be part of the initiation after the first part of the presentation is complete, they can just wait outside for 15 minutes while the others become initiated. After that, they can come back in for the second part of the lecture. If someone changes their mind after the initiation takes place, it is ok, we can do another ceremony for them. If at any time you wish to dissolve the apprenticeship to Tai Shang Lao Jun, the head of our school, you simply say the mantra you are given, face the heavens, make your request; and the connection will be severed.
But you have to understand that you can only be initiated once per life time into Xiao Yao Pai.
Why? I don't know. Maybe the immortals don't like time wasters. I'm not sure.
There is a lot of heart, discipline and perseverance involved on this path.
So I imagine if they see that someone lacks the conviction to practice, they consider them unready and give them time to continue life in another direction.
Best wishes.
PS: You can check out the Xiao Yao Pai - SPIRITUAL TAOISM facebook discussion group to read more about it.
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Q: Thank you so much, how can I connect to space, I mean how can I imagine the space and connect to it.A: Hello. The first thing you must do, is understand that the process of imagination is a function of the mind and the thoughts it produces.The space between the thoughts, is the still point in the midst of the movement of the mind. It is like the subtle pause after the inbreath and the outbreath of air from our lungs.It is the point of no-thing, whence wu wei is birthed.If you can remain at rest within this sea of relative emptiness and empty your heart of desires; the body of the Tao will embrace you in it's transformative energy and you will begin to awaken to your original essence and see your true face, as it is before you are born into the physical dimension of duality: Taiji.The second thing to understand is that the thoughts on their own cannot be rid off. They are evidence of a live and conscious being, and you should be happy you have them. When your body dies, the thoughts will die with the brain.I will give you an easy method that you can practice at your leisure.1. Sit comfortably on a chair or on the floor, and make sure your back is naturally erect.2. Take a few minutes to relax your body completely. Relaxation is one of the most important things, not just during meditation, but during every activity we perform in life. When the mind and the body are relaxed, the spirit is still. When the spirit is still, it can manifest the Tao perfectly.3. Place your attention on a single point. This is your anchor.You can pick your Xia Dantien or the tip of your nose.4. Maintain your attention on the anchor point, but do not apply any intention. There is a difference between the two. Although both intention and attention can lead the mind. The former is pregnant with desire, while the latter is empty of it. We want to disengage the heart, because when the heart stirs it produces thoughts and emotions. So, to be effective we apply an open attention instead of a closed intention.5. Keep your attention on the anchor point. Nothing should sway you from it. Not even the breath. If you notice you are voluntarily adjusting your breathing; remove the attention even from this activity and replace it back on the anchor point. The breath will regulate itself. When at rest, it is an involuntary mechanism and it does not need conscious direction from the mind. The thoughts need Qi to function, so the breath is connected to the thoughts, and our awareness provides the fuel.Because of this, the breath can be used as a yardstick in measuring the efficacy of producing tranquillity. If the breath is slow, the thoughts are weak and the awareness is disengaged from their activity. If the breath is fast and laboured, the thoughts will be heavy and over-active and our awareness will be dedicated to supporting their proliferation. If the breath becomes so slow, and for long periods of time seems to stop completely. Then you are beginning to touch upon the state required to support spiritual transformation in deep mediation. Your awareness will be completely disengaged from the Taiji dimension and it's full potential will be redirected towards the transportation of consciousness into the absolute emptiness of Wuji.6. If you notice that your awareness has been hijacked by a torrent of thoughts or one idea that has spiralled into a full blown Hollywood blockbuster. Do not get aggravated or irritated. Just gently redirect your attention to your anchor point.7. Repeat steps 4 to 6.At first you will notice that you're only able to maintain focus for short spans of time, maybe even seconds at the beginning.With daily practice, this will grow into minutes and hours, until eventually your awareness will condition itself to continuously stay in this relative emptiness within your mind, whether you're working or talking or lying down.This relative emptiness is a pathway to the absolute emptiness of the Wuji. It is like a thread which will lead you into the ultimate fire of spiritual transformation.In time, you will find that rather than needing to engage the "thinking" mind to express yourself in the world; your expression will come from a higher faculty; a source beyond the impermanence of the physical mind, and you will finally begin to express your soul directly. Action, thought, mind, emotion, awareness, everything will blend into one, and you will move as a whole being in every facet of your life. One divine entity, expressing itself directly as a manifestation of the perfected nature of the Tao.Best wishes.Xuan Daoji-
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I'm very happy to hear of your progress.
These direct experiences are what will turn fiction into fact, theories and ideas into reality, your false nature into your original nature; and will give you the confidence to share this truth with others for their benefit and the benefit of humanity.
Your experiences will become more lucid and greater yet and as the wisdom of your Yuan Shen emerges, your life will be transformed beyond measure.
What of your partner, how is her Xiu Tao?
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Yes that's right. We had the first ever Philippine initiation ceremony and 34 Tao Yu were initiated and received the Spiritual Guidance Art from two of the Taoist priests.
There was an interesting case of possession at the event as well, where one person had been affected for over 17 years by a powerful spirit who turned out to be one of his ancestors. The exorcism was very civil and the spirit left respectfully.
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That book is absolutely incredible.
His Daoist Magic Transformation Skills, is also really, really good.
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Hello everyone!
I have been celibate for almost a year now but I still suffer from nocturnal emissions every few weeks. This really bums me out because I love the way I feel after conserving without spillage for a month plus. It really is something I cannot explain.
If while you are celibate, you are loosing the seed at night, or even during the day (yes, after some time, it happens during the day too, just randomly); then you are not meditating properly. You have not yet grasped the essence of this most delicate thing.
At these stages where the foundation is being laid in Hou Tian, Xing and Ming must be cultivated together; one without the other will not do and tends to lead to failure.
Revisit once again your comprehension of meditation and try to understand it's roots.
Once you do, the fire beneath the cauldron will ablaze and steam the Jing, to produce the finer substance of the three treasures.
Mind must be absent (Shen) and Yuan Shen, must be nurtured.
When the Shen recedes, then the Yuan Shen of it'self will be stilled and this will produce the state which you need to transmute the Jing which you are collecting.
It is a practice of no-mind in marriage with the matter of the body, to produce the intangible.
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Hello, Im new around here so I don't really understand a lot of the abbreviations. Whos is JAJ and what book are you talking about? Thanks!
I was referring to Daoist Internal Alchemy, by Jerry Alan Johnson.
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One day three wise men met each other over a tasting of vinegar.
They were none other than Confucious, Buddha and Lao Tzu.
After tasting the vinegar, they each have three very distinct expressions.
Confucious has a sour expression.
Buddha has a most bitter expression.
Only Lao Tzu smiles and has a happy expression.
Confucious thinks the vinegar is sour, because he sees the world to be unrefined and unorganized.
Before there was harmony in the world and everything had it's place and order. Customs, etiquette and laws helped the world become civilized.
Everything must have rules to follow.
Events and happenings must follow rituals and traditions passed down from former generations should be respected and observed appropriately.
There were rituals to dictate when one listens to a specific court music or when to honor certain traditions and celebrate events.
He believed that the relationship and conduct between people must be clearly outlined and strictly followed. Only in this way can there be harmony, but the current world and the ancient are not longer the same.
The principles which once kept the balance of human interactions is missing and because of this, Confucious feels the world has gone sour.
The Buddha's expression is of bitter distaste, because he feels that the life of man is riddled with suffering, dissatisfaction, unhappiness, anxiety, sickness, tragedy and despair.
Why do people suffer?
People suffer because of desire and craving:
Desire to be or not to be.
Desire to have or not to have.
Desire to experience pleasure through the 5 senses and the mind.
We suffer internally when our desires are not met, and our desires have no limit.
In order to eliminate this suffering, you must eliminate craving and desire of things, detaching yourself from life.
Because of this, Buddha feels that life is endlessly bitter.
Lao Tzu's expression is one of happiness with an apparent smile.
To him the taste of the vinegar is sweet and nourishing, but why?
He sees the wonder of heaven, on earth, and that the divine is in us all.
The world ebbs and flows with the current of the Tao, not doing, yet leaving nothing undone. Doing, but not claiming possession. Acting, but not expecting. When the Tao is done, it forgets. That is why it lasts forever.
The natural law of the Tao, should be followed by people, without effort, without action, but naturally from within.
He thinks that, it is because people have created so many laws for themselves, their lives and their world, that suffering arises in the first place.
Because of these laws, the world has become unnatural.
Everything has it's own natural flow.
If you can recognize and follow this natural flow, you will flow with the effortless current of the Tao and be forever happy.
He smiles, because he knows the natural flow of the universe and runs with it, not against it, and in the midst of life, he finds opportunity to the Tao.
#xiaoyaopai #laotzu #esoterictaoism#threevinegartasters #xuandaoji-
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TESTIMONIAL 1:
"I went to London with some expectations but in the same time I did not know what to expect.
When begun the Initiation I was relaxed and opened for everything.
I did not know what to exactly expect. I knew that I should to follow "something" what can happened.
After closing my eyes I felt in my hands some kind of magnetic energy.
My hands begun to go one to the left and second to the right side - then back. After a while one hand made a circle up and in the same time the second one the circle down - and these circles were repeated several times.
It was like a symbol of Tai Chi. In the end my hands stopped in the position like holding the ball in the front of my chest. They were fixed in this position.
All the time I felt in my hands hot and cold in the same time. I could full control the movement of my hands - but I followed the "impulse" which lead me to do it. When I went back to my room in hotel I said the mantra and I talk to my FFS - it was monolog from my side. I felt that I should to sit down on the floor - in normal position like for meditation.
Then my way of breathing immediately changed. I started to breath with my chest. After a while I felt that I should to stand up. I did it and then begin something like Qi Gong. In the beginning I could feel the energy which guided me and then I could see in my head "pictures" of the positions which I should to exercise. I followed these pictures and during exercises I felt relaxed and when I moved my hands over different parts of my body - I could feel energy and again cold and hot in these parts of my body. I tried to do the movements which I did not "see" and interesting thing - I did not feel relaxed or hot and cold. When I stared to follow the "pictures" I could again have this feelings of relax etc."
Eliyyazar G.
TESTIMONIAL 2:
"Well, during the initiation I experienced some movements of my arms, but I wasn't sure did it really happened or I just was moving my arms spasmodically. I wanted to try it again alone even though I was afraid that I would be disappointed and nothing would happen (as always), but I have no privacy at the hostel, so I had to wait until I get home. Then I just had a little breakfast and try to invoke my Fu Fa Shen immediately. At first my hands were somehow attracted to each other and touched themselves several times (and I was wondering is this right because we were told that the hands shouldn't touch and maybe I am just taking things in my head), but then they move apart and start turning while snapping fingers. Then I was made to lie down on my right side while my left hand was moving circularly massaging my back and sometimes my neck.
During the next two or three hours I was taking different weird poses similar to yoga asanas, often lying on the floor while moving my arms and my legs. I should have been a funny sight - a grown man rolling on the floor like playful child or a kitten, bur fortunately I live alone and nobody could think that I am going nuts... especially since I was laughing from time to time (just as the first time when I felt my arms moving and I had the strong urge to laugh). The feeling was as if you lie in your bed in the morning and still sleepy stretch lazily your limbs. No tiredness and no panting - just like a play. I was thinking about all kind of different things, but mostly I was trying to talk to my Fu Fa Shen, just praying: please, please, don't stop, I want to be sure that this is really happening.
The funny thing was that even though the motions seemed completely random I never hit myself even once as I often do just while moving around since the space in my room is very narrow and full of all kind of litter (well, a bachelor's place - you can imagine...). At some time my arm was rubbing my face, scratching my head and massaging some points on my neck. While doing that in a moment my left hand with a swift circular movement around my neck and under my collar swept my medallion and take it away. Then it begin to roll it around itself while doing the exercise, flipping it between its fingers as if playing with it and at some time it twined it around the right hand while both were moving one around another between my chest. It was funny! I was like: are you kidding me? I've never thought that a Fu Fa Shen could have a sense of humor... I didn't want it to stop. In some time I was walking while doing circular motions with my arms, in other I was doing some breathing exercise, not sitting like in meditation, but in a strange beetle-like pose with bent back, my forehead on the floor and my hands on the back of my neck.
Finally I was made to sit down like for meditation with my hands together before my chest (in anjali mudra) rotating up and down, up and down, and nothing more. I asked: is this a sign, that it is enough, should I stop? But if there was an answer I didn't hear it or understand it. So I said: "thank you" three times and stopped (that's perhaps the first time in my life that I really have something to be thankful for...).
I have passed several hours (I don't know how many exactly since I didn't take note of the time when I began). I still cannot communicate with my Fu Fa Shen, so I am not sure is he or she really here. How can I be sure that all this has really happened just because I remember it? (I am such die hard sceptic, that I am not even sure about whether I really went to London. Such good things usually never happen, not to me anyway...). But I will try it again, even though I am afraid - not of the thing itself, but of the failure (i.e. that it may not happen again if I try it). I hope that my mind doesn't play tricks on me and I am not going crazy (otherwise I am already mad enough as I am). But I think it is worth trying - I've never before encountered anything that has worked on me in reality."
A. S.TESTIMONIAL 3:
"At the initiation, I wasn't entirely convinced that the small movements in my closed hands were the result of anything other than just a natural movement of chi and therefore departed with the same open mind that I arrived with and thought I would see how things developed. Having had a bad chest infection resulting in a course of steriods that ran into the weekend, i was concerned that my sensitivity might be affected ad to a degree I think it might have been.
Well things certainly developed last night; after speaking the mantra, the movements started with the same subtlety of previous attempts and continued in micro movements for a while before It dawned on me that chi blockages were being worked on by my Fu Fa Shen, (well that's what it felt like) as I was sensing very minor pain and sensations in a few areas including the hands and thigh. I have had a sacroiliac joint problem for several years and found that I was being pulled ever so slightly in a direction that caused minor pain on that joint. It was as though I was going through a bit of a diagnosis and my Fu Fa Shen was identifying areas of concern.
At one point (i was sat on the bed with my feet on the floor) I was forced, again very slowly, to lie on my back and stayed in that position for quite some time. Images came and went and I got the impression from those images and an intuitive feeling that my Fu Fa Shen was female, due to the gentleness of the proceedings, but this may or may not be the case as the images were a little frosty.
I vaguely remember asking the age of my Fu Fa Shen and the number 1342 or an image of that number came to my mind. Early days for me still and being the hard egg to boil, I will no doubt take a while easing into my new path, but the signs are very optimistic, to the point where I thought I had to share my experience."
Paul H.
TESTIMONIAL 4:
"Hi my name is Henry Wright I attended the event.I went with no expectations as I didn't know what to expect.
I sat and I listened,I took part but didn't really dive in so to speak ,finding my self quite comfortable being there with out any pressure to speak or do things I didnt want to .
The chairs were not very comfortable and by the end of each day u was in a rush to stretch my legs ,so I kind of just walked without any by your leave ,sorry if that was rude of me.
Ok, so end of first day I was sure I was unsure of what I was doing,went home full of good feeling of what I was at,
Sunday ,same chairs:-) ,the presentation again, very good and most significantly the best hours to be meditating being explained hit home with me.
Any way ,me being my worst enemy Saturday evening was blurred.Sunday I was thinking maybe I not worthy of the Dao then I thought the sun and rain don't care who it rains or shines on .(I've read that).
Sunday night...
I get home ,go see a friend then it started ,my hands got hot I couldn't keep them still.I left my friends house walking a couple of miles to the recreation are where I spent the next four hours meditating (as was taught) and moveing about practicing turns and eight points ,this was done alternatively twenty minutes/ fourty minutes is my guess.
Two hours sleep and late four work I found myself in better form than I (should)? have lasted the whole day and well into the evening .very tired I got sleep .I've levelled off now,and now the real journey has begun .
Many many thanks for the guidance I received Saturday and Sunday."
Henry W.
TESTIMONIAL 5:
"I have been as honest as I can remember in describing my initiation experience without going into to much depth. I sincerely hope this will help others to make an informed decision should they wish.
So I attended the initiation in London this last weekend (27-28/09/2014) with quite high expectations after reading up on it on The Tao Bums forum and having my personal questions and reservations very kindly and diligently answered by Effi via email.
First I would like to say the Master Flyming and his wife Nina came across to me as very genuine, warm and good humoured and at £60 for the weekend this seemed to be very reasonable and as I found out later was not done for profit. The price for me was important as I am quite thoughtful with money and logical/skeptical by nature and did not want to waste money on something that I was going reasonably blindly into.
Please note that during the initiation weekend it was made clear that we are free to practice or leave the school at any time and were not bound to it. They give us a key and it's up to us to use it but at the same time we are not left on our own as we were given email and phone numbers to contact for free support from the schools Masters and high up members should we need it and there are also open and closed Facebook groups for those interested and those already initiated respectively. I signed nor agreed any binding contracts nor made any oaths. Effi had very kindly made that clear to me in his reply to my email and this too was important to me. Once initiated I was allowed on to the closed Facebook group and can attest that help was given to people who had questions by more experienced practitioners and information was shared for our benefit.
It became clear through the talks Master Flymings and his wife Master Nina’s lectures on the school that charity is a very important part of this school as is refining ones conduct through action and thoughts, which I liked very much as I for one think a happier, kinder mind can be come stiller easier.
The initiation consisted of saying the schools password and praying to the supreme god holding incense asking to be assigned a Fu Fah Shen (FFS) or mentor god and to be protected then ending with another password. It was explained to us that this opening request can be tailored to ask for different things asking is not necessarily receiving its the Fu Fah Shen discretion I guess?
We then sat quietly with our hands in a relaxed prayer position and were told to let them move how they would.
I felt my hands buzzing slightly and chi in the palms, this is nothing unusually for me as I feel this when I do my chi gong at home. Nina I presume saw that my hands were not moving and came over and told me to hold my hands a little apart and relax but they still did not move. We stayed there for maybe 10 minutes. Most peoples had their hands moved from what I can gather, I did not see this however as I had my eyes closed but it became apparent as it was discussed afterwards. I was not perturbed and was willing to try again. The whole situation was very natural and felt genuine.
Anyway I was keen to have another go and due to a late arrival who missed the first initiation there was another imitation ceremony at the end if day. I joined this one with some others and followed the same steps but this time without the initial incense as this is only used when Master Flyming request the assignment of a Fu Fah Shen I believe.
This time I made my prayer with my hands way above my head as this is how you pray to immortals apparently and ancestors with hands at the forehead? My hands were apart to begin with and after a short while my right hand began gently moving towards and away from my left palm. This then turned into a sway from my hips left and right. We then stopped at the Masters wife's request and I opened my eyes and Flyming was smiling a big smile.
I went home and after doing my daily half hour of qi gong I sat down cross legged (not lotus). I said the password invocation and the bowed and thanked my FFS. I began to sway at the hips and it increased in speed. Then my knees were moving up and down at a reasonable speed. I then noticed I had become sexually aroused although this was not erotic but just pleasurable energy which pumped around my lower body mostly. Then I heard a thought in my head which could have been my thought?! Which said now I will raise your arms and my arms raised and the voice was telling me what was going to happen before each action. Moving arms deep breathing forward back etc... Please note this was not a possession and I could stop it at any time. It was a very subtle energy moving me and I was fully conscious and not in a trance of any kind.
The next day at the initiation workshop was a talk on the school objectives and stages and how each was cultivated with interesting fun anecdotal stories from Master Flyming and his Nina’s experiences, they came across as very genuine to me and not like they were selling something. And it seemed clear to me when he talked he had walked the walk.
That next evening my FSS after invocation said it would be different and had me do yoga poses on the lounge floor. Images would come to mind and or gentle pulls to get me into the poses (I need to work on my flexibility big time!).
Last night he (he is a he) had me sit on the sofa which he called a bed twice but meant the sofa this I thought was weird as it seemed a strange slip up? I sat in meditation for a while saw a few images but began to fall asleep after a while. Anyway when I had finished and was going to bed my four and half year old son complained about ear ache and was very uncomfortable and could not sleep. We went to the sofa and he watched a movie on the ipad until he was too tired and then we both slept on the sofa. So the sofa was a bed that night after all?! In the morning my beautiful boy felt sick and vomited into my hands as we had no bowl close, maybe he was giving me back something? Either way I humbly accepted it!
My FFS and me have talked about quite a few things now and he has been advising me on different things too. If i analysed it would seem as though I am talking to myself as the thoughts have no sound or voice but we chat and I get some interesting advice on all manner of things.
I cannot really express exactly how I feel writing this on tuesday evening about three and a half days after my initiation but i feel a big new chapter has opened in my life and it seemed to me coming home from work this evening that all parts of my life are coming together in the most wonderful way. I feel like I have been truly blessed. My life is not the same, this is kind of crazy in a really good way!
This is early days and intend to get test this but so far very good. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
All my best
Peter S.
TESTIMONIAL 6:
"I am one of this skeptical people when it comes to belief ,but i decided to keep an open mind for this event and i am glad i did that or i would not have had the privilege of meeting the Tao masters ,feeling their spiritual energy and becoming part of the wonderful and puzzling and fascinating experiences . When i listened to them talking it was great to understand that it is not a religion ,but simply an effort to strive and improve the self ,overcome prejudices,conditioning and preconceptions and completely of your own free will and understanding not to cause harm to others.
Since the initiation i have gradually had my eyes beginning to open to all my shortcomings and they were many,but when i meditated my fu fa shen was working on my body spinning me ,bending me i started to experience calmness and clarity of mind and could see where i have gone wrong and how my vanity has prevented me from seeing other people properly and understanding how they felt .i started having a thought ,every time my vanity returned warning me to stop.I do some really strange exercises and on one of them i bend my knees and leaned back so far ,for my body it was impossible to keep a balance ,but i kept like that for 10 seconds and felt i was being supported.My fu fa shen feels like a treasured family member,but a very stern teacher and once when i went back to my vanity after meditation ,it sent a thought into my mind to stop and said that if i do it he will give me pain to remind me and 5 minutes latter he made my back burn and sent a thought to remember to be modest.
If i had listened to myself a week ago i would have sent me to a psychiatrist ,but after the lessons and explanations from the master i am prepared to understand and let go and let my fu fa shen help me.It is all for my own benefit and when i ask my fu fa shen for specific help it helps me .
Preconceptions keep us from experiencing great things throughout our lives and i am so happy i did not allow mine to stop me from going to the initiation,i was laying in the emergencies ward in the hospital ,but i pushed myself ,discharged against doctors advice and got on the night bus to london and came to the initiation.Few days latter i feel my body getting better daily after each meditation and body manipulation i feel like i made the best decision for my life."
TESTIMONIAL 7:
"When I first heard of the Tai Shang Men-Xiao Yao Pai Taoist school and took the e-mail course, I was so excited and knew this was the path I wanted to follow. Though I am an acupuncturist and have studied Chinese Medicine and culture for years, I didn't really know anything about Tao Yin Shu and had no expectations. Since then, I still have not studied any of the ideas or descriptions of it, I just practice and let my experience guide me to my own knowledge. At some point in the future, I will study the traditional texts more and seek understanding on an intellectual level, but for now practice is the most important thing for me.
Therefore, when I was initiated I had an open mind and didn't really know what to expect. Nothing had been described to me before hand. So, I was surprised during the initiation to have such a strong sensation in my hands. It was similar to what I have experienced practicing Tai Chi and other internal martial arts forms, but much stronger. There was a strong sense of pushing and direction to the sensation that I had not experienced before.
Over the last year of practice my chronic and severe health problems have improved markedly. I recently have had increased sensation throughout my body, not just my hands, of receiving Qi. I have felt my heart open more to feelings of peace and joy. Recently, I had a very interesting experience. I had an event happen that was very troublesome, and my mind responded wanting to go down a well-worn path of worry which I have done in the past. I found that pathway was blocked and I could not worry. Then my mind, disturbed, tried another pathway of anxiety; it was also blocked. Then my mind went into full-on panic and I found that way was blocked, too! Finally, I began to find this whole process amusing and I just had to laugh. It was a remarkable experience and difficult to describe. But I think my Fu Fa Shen was directing me to discharge the emotion through laughter instead of the more damaging and habitual pathways of worry and fear.
With every day that passes I feel more and more grateful that I chose this path! It takes persistence, but eventually the rewards will manifest themselves."
TESTIMONIAL 8:
"TYS is unlike any other form of meditation I have learnt, and I have learnt many types, some of them Taoist.
Its beauty and challenge is that it requires no effort. Any effort or input other than "being there" will retard progress. The practice feels natural, like coming home, and as such dispels any fear or anxiety I may have.
TYS hones my sensitivity to energy through my body and strengthens and enables an experience of "recharging". It is an ancient, effortless exercise in spirit building (a concept I now understand because I now feel it).
...And it bloody well feels fantastic while I'm doing it!! TYS is by far the best and most productive present I have been given by anyone so far. Bye for now "
TESTIMONIAL 9:
"I am a Chinese medicine practitioner in the USA.
I was very interested to be introduced to an authentic daoist lineage (xiao yao pai)
Before the initiation there was a short introductory course on the basic aspect of daoist thoughts and a few exercises to assess how well we understood the basic applied philosophical aspects of daoism.
After that, the Master who had travelled all the way from indonesia to the USA, started the initiation and introduced us to our Hu Fa Shen (our personal guardian/instructor in daoist practices). If you have always wanted to have a master constantly with you to answer your question and guide through your life, then this is the ceremony for you.
The master called on the higher plane and made accessible to each of us the ability to connect with the HFS. We did tao yin shu for a while reinforcing the connection.
The second day was dedicated to understanding certain breathing techniques and clarifying questions from the participants.
It was all very direct and powerful.
Then all we had to do is go back home and practice every day tao yin shu and reinforce the connection with the HFS (Fu Fa Shen).
This has been a very powerful practice for me for 2 years now, and many positive changes have taken place in my life since.
I feel very grateful that the Master visited us from so far away and that I did not miss this event. Do not miss it !"
TESTIMONIAL 10:
"So its the day after the initiation event and I must say that I didn't want it to end. It is truly a positive life changing experience. I am so pleased with the experiences I've had so far since being initiated.
Makes me very excited to continue on this journey learning the Tao through TSM. Thank you to all those abroad and here in the US that helped to make the event possible this year.
I am truly grateful for this opportunity."
TESTIMONIAL 11:
"Just rapped up the event. Day 1/2 in the books and it was awesome! Speechless at this point. Trying to digest all this information but an awesome event. So blessed!"TESTIMONIAL 12:
"My short experience with my FFS started after my third attempt to connect with it. During my initiation I felt some energy in between my hands. It felt like something was pushing them apart and that was all, no movements.
The second time I tried to connect with my FFS, I didn’t feel anything at all. And then it all started during my third attempt. I was sitting on a chair, I was trying to feel the energy between my palms and my FFS moved my left arm aside and started making circles of different diameters. Then it switched to my right arm and repeated the same movements.
I continued practicing and in the next few sessions I experienced the same movements but at some point it stopped my arm and pressed it against my body or held it in a perpendicular position when I was practicing in bed.
While it was holding my arm I felt my arm very warm like when someone touches u and u exchange temperature. These movements became more intensive with time.
Last two times I tried to connect with my FFS when it finished moving my arms, it continued by moving my right leg and since I was laying down I felt like maybe I should sit but nothing happened so I stood up and then my FFS started to make me stay in a position in which my knees were bent (but I didn’t feel any tension), it pushed my hips forward, my back straight, my arms around my body with a slight curve and palms facing backwards.
I felt so relaxed and comfortable, no tension at all, it was like someone is holding my body. My FFS made me stay in that position for a few seconds and then pushed my knees backwards and then forward again.
Another experience I have is an exercise in which my FFS moved my hips in a circle switching my body weight from knee to knee.
Another time it was rotating my hands for so long that I got tired and fell asleep and when I woke up my hand was still spinning."TESTIMONIAL 13:
"Long before I was initiated another Tao Yu told me that XYP students are enveloped with a golden spiritual aura that refines and protects us and that our system is Xian Tian, the reverse of conventional Hou Tian cultivtion methods.
Well. I use to have regular reiki sessions before the initiation with my reiki healer and whenever we have a session, she concludes it with a detailed report on everything she observed.
My reports are pretty monotonous insofar that nothing changes from a general perspective and progress is significant but isolated, so that perhaps we work on one meridian or an organ or a particular condition.
I have quite a few reports so I know how bland the situation is.
The last report I received was before the initiation; nothing very exciting.
Now here's the cool thing, my most recent session with her was after the initiation and the session had left her gob-smacked. In short, she said the energy flow of my body had completely flipped and was flowing up and that I was surrounded by a divine golden aura that was extremely peaceful.
She also said there was some sort of divine influence working on me from above and actively conditioning my meridian system and subtle energy body in preparation for it to receive higher vibrations of spiritual energy.
What's REALLY cool about all this is that, I never told her I was initiated, so It was a blind-discovery, but every detail she gave me only confirmed what I had been previously told about what happens to the energetic body after initiation : )"-
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"Inquiring of the Dao at the Cave of Paradise"
This drawing depicts the journey of Huang-Di to meet the hermit Guangchengzi of Kong-Tong mountain ca. 2679 BC according to Zhuangzi.
Guang Cheng Zi is believed to be the first of three incarnations of the deity Tai Shang Lao Jun. The other two are Laozi and Zhang Daoling, respectively.
The story goes...
"Huang-Di had been on the throne for nineteen years, and his ordinances were in operation all through the kingdom, when he heard that Guang Cheng-zi was living on the summit of Kong-tong, and went to see him.
'I have heard,' he said, 'that you, Sir, are well acquainted with the perfect Dao. I venture to ask you what is the essential thing in it. I wish to take the subtlest influences of heaven and earth, and assist with them the (growth of the) five cereals for the (better) nourishment of the people. I also wish to direct the (operation of the) Yin and Yang, so as to secure the comfort of all living beings. How shall I proceed to accomplish those objects?
Kong Tong-zi replied, 'What you wish to ask about is the original substance of all things; what you wish to have the direction of is that substance as it was shattered and divided.
According to your government of the world, the vapours of the clouds, before they were collected, would descend in rain; the herbs and trees would shed their leaves before they became yellow; and the light of the sun and moon would hasten to extinction. Your mind is that of a flatterer with his plausible words - it is not fit that I should tell you the perfect Dao.'
Huang-Di withdrew, gave up his government of the kingdom, built himself a solitary apartment, spread in it a mat of the white mo grass, dwelt in it unoccupied for three months, and then went again to seek an interview with the recluse.
Guang Cheng-zi was then lying down with his head to the south. Huang-Di, with an air of deferential submission, went forward on his knees, twice bowed low with his face to the ground, and asked him, saying, 'I have heard that you, Sir, are well acquainted with the perfect Dao - I venture to ask how I should rule my body, in order that it may continue for a long time.'
Guang Cheng-zi hastily rose, and said, 'A good question! Come and I will tell you the perfect Dao:
Its essence is surrounded with the deepest obscurity; its highest reach is in darkness and silence. There is nothing to be seen; nothing to be heard. When it holds the spirit in its arms in stillness, then the bodily form of itself will become correct. You must be still; you must be pure; not subjecting your body to toil, not agitating your vital force - then you may live for long. When your eyes see nothing, your ears hear nothing, and your mind knows nothing, your spirit will keep your body, and the body will live long. Watch over what is within you, shut up the avenues that connect you with what is external - much knowledge is pernicious. I will proceed with you to the summit of the Grand Brilliance, where we come to the source of the bright and expanding element; I will enter with you the gate of the Deepest Obscurity, where we come to the source of the dark and repressing element. There heaven and earth have their controllers; there the Yin and Yang have their Repositories.
Watch over and keep your body, and all things will of themselves give it vigor.
I maintain the original unity of these elements, and dwell in the harmony of them. In this way I have cultivated myself for one thousand and two hundred years, and my bodily form has undergone no decay.'
Huang-Di twice bowed low with his head to the ground, and said, 'In Guang Cheng-zi we have an example of what is called Heaven.
' The other said, 'Come, and I will tell you: The perfect Dao is something inexhaustible, and yet men all think it has an end; it is something unfathomable, and yet men all think its extreme limit can be reached.
He who attains to my Dao, if he be in a high position, will be one of the August ones, and in a low position, will be a king. He who fails in attaining it, in his highest attainment will see the light, but will descend and be of the Earth.
At present all things are produced from the Earth and return to the Earth. Therefore I will leave you, and enter the gate of the Unending, to enjoy myself in the fields of the Illimitable. I will blend my light with that of the sun and moon, and will endure while heaven and earth endure. If men agree with my views, I will be unconscious of it; if they keep far apart from them, I will be unconscious of it; they may all die, and I will abide alone!'"
What is not widely known is that, during his apprenticeship of Huang Di (The Yellow Emperor), immortal Guang Zhengzi directly transmitted to him, the secrets of the ancient divine guidance art, called Tao Yin Shu 導引术.
To honor his new path of spiritual cultivation and establish a place where he could cultivate himself under the tutelage of Guang Zhengzi; Huang Di built Xiao Yao Guan from the precipitous slopes of the Kong Tong Mountain. Xiao Yao Guan, or Tao Guan as it came to be called, was recognized to be the first temple of China and the birthplace of Spiritual Taoism. It is believed that here, under the guidance of Guangzhengzi, the ancient Yellow Emperor of China, was able to unify his spirit, revert to nothingness and achieved the pristine state of the immortal Xian, ascending to heaven.Xiao Yao Guan is currently over 5000 years old and still stands today
Our school, Xiao Yao Pai; 逍遥派, as the inheritor of the ancient guidance art of the Tao; Tao Yin Shu 導引术, embodies the principles of Xiao Yao transmitted by Guangzhengzi to Huangdi, and thousands of years later, continues to transmit the spiritual teachings of Tai Shang Laojun (The Grand Pure One), perpetuating the spiritual attainments of Zi Ran, Wu Wei, Qingjing and Gong through the practice of Tao Yin Shu.
How has the ancient spiritual cultivation art survived and how is it transmitted today?
Practitioners of Tao Yin Shu have their Yuan Shen (original mind) activated through a spiritual initiation, activation, or a spiritual transmission. Simultaneously, a request is made to the Elder Lord; Tai Shang Laojun; 太上老君, whom instantaneously assigns a spirit immortal mentor to each disciple.
The immortal mentor (Fu Fa Shen or Hu Fa Shen), is an ascended spiritual being, that exists in the non-physical dimension, beyond the duality of Taiji. In common referred to as a Xian Shen or Tian Shen.
He, she or it, is assigned to you by duty and in the capacity of an instructor and teacher of the authentic spiritual arts of self cultivation. Your Fu Fa Shen's assignment is to personally instruct you on how to practice Shen Gong, Qi Gong and Jing Zuo, in preparation for the advanced alchemical transformations of the spirit, which bring about the transmutation of Yin Shen to Yang Shen and the fusion of the 3 Hun (ethereal souls) and 7 Po (corporeal souls) into one; resulting in the complete purification of the acquired mundane conditioning, the birth of the radiant, original mind (Yuan Shen) and the development of the indestructible immortal body of Yang Shen.
Shortly after the initiation, some students, depending on their talents, can immediately form a telepathic connection to their spiritual mentor (Fu Fa Shen) and communicate with them from day one, in order to advance their learning and practice. Others may take a little longer, due to the overwhelming mental illusions and constructs formulated by their mundane mind since birth. Nonetheless, all students are taught and guided by their Fu Fa Shen, in accordance with their needs, so that the ultimate goal of immortality may be achieved, one step at time.
As you connect to your spiritual mentor daily and practice Tao Yin Shu, you will find that your mind becomes sharper, clearer, you become more intuitive, your illnesses and ailments gradually disappear and your energy and spirit body are transformed to manifest the dormant potential of your body and bring about your full functional and supernatural capacities.
While many schools of the Way, aim to cultivate the post-natal treasures of the Taiji realm; Jing (body), Qi (energy), Shen (mind). Our school follows the way of the old art and instead from Shen, cultivates upwards yet, pushing into the matter-enveloping boundary of the Taiji; raising our awareness and spirit higher and higher until it penetrates the membrane of physicality and streams into the non-physical dimension of Wuji, where the unified, non-polar ultimatelessness of existence may be experienced and the immortal spiritual capacities of our innate nature can be developed to a perfection in resonance with the source of all things.
The Divine Guidance Art; Tao Yin Shu 導引术, or the Guidance Art of the Way, or even as some have called it; the Spiritual Guidance Art, is a rare part of Taoism which has been hidden for thousands of years and only passed down to royalty and high ranking officials and ministers. For millennia it has remained obscure to even the most knowledgeable and informed practitioners of the Taoist arts of immortality.
Hua Tuo, the inventor of the esteemed 5 Animal Frolics, a form of spontaneous Qigong, also practiced Tao Yin Shu; our schools' divine guidance art. He was renowned for his expertise in Chinese medicine and his efforts have helped cure thousands of people all across the globe.
Most practitioners whom have received genuine transmissions may know about Tao Yin Shu from their masters, however believe it to be long extinct, but most people today, even those who claim to be the most devout, will seldom ever even know of it's existence.
Recently, the Chinese government, through the Taoist Association of China made an official effort to recover the lost information of China's ancient clans in order to preserve it's history. In their findings they discovered Xiao Yao Pai to be listed in 33rd place in order of foundation. The list can be found in White Cloud Temple (Bai Yun Guan).
For the first time in 1970, our Grandmaster, Lie Shang Hu, began openly transmitting the treasure of Tao Yin Shu to the public and Xiao Yao Pai began to spread across the world. After experiencing the physical, energetic and spiritual benefits of the ancient art, year after year, many new disciples were initiated and the school grew
Today, there are followers of the school spread throughout the many provinces of Indonesia, most of which are active in traditional Chinese Temples and many others whom choose to practice Tao Yin Shu in the privacy of their own homes.
In 1996, the first official Tai Shang Men temple was established in Lampung, Samatra and Xiao Yao Pai finally had a home that was open to all.
As a testament to the schools success, today, there are over 15 Tai Shang Men temples all around Indonesia.
By the year 2000, the Indonesian Taoist Association was founded (PUTI), as an organization which would help to manage it's over 20,000 active and practicing disciples. In 2014, over 100,000 disciples were practicing the Divine Guidance Art and growing steadily, all by word of mouth and the remarkable testimonials of the many transformed.
After much debate, in 2007 our Grand Master gave us permission to introduce our ancient art to the west, and in 2009 we held the first initiation ceremony in the USA, heralding a new era of Xiao Yao Pai and what I sincerely believe to be a new age in the spiritual evolution of humankind.
Now and for the third time, in 2015, a remarkable opportunity to learn Tao Yin Shu is coming directly to London, UK.
From one spiritual practitioner to another, If you are serious about your spiritual cultivation, don't miss this transformational and life-changing opportunity.
We hope this ancient art can become a light for humanity and awaken everyone to the reality of their original nature.
About the event:
The 2 day initiation event planned is to be held in London, the objective of which will be to introduce participants to a Taoist system of spiritual cultivation called Tao Yin Shu or The Divine Guidance Art.
Day 1 will consist of a short seminar lasting about two hours, which will explain the basic concepts of spiritual Taoism, followed by a Tao Ying initiation performed by a Taoist Master.
During the Tao Ying initiation ceremony, the master will leverage his cultivated spiritual energy and awaken your Yuan Shen (original mind), while simultaneously establishing a connection to your Fu Fa Shen; mentor god or: spiritual guide, immortal teacher, guardian angel.
Your Fu Fa Shen will fall under two categories:
1. An ascended immortal whom was previously in human form and achieved the ultimate goal of cultivation to become a Xian (immortal), during their life on earth. Some of these can be newly ascended immortals or hundreds of years old, even thousands.
2. An enlightened spiritual being which has always existed in it's non-physical form and did not cultivate from a human being to achieve this state. Some of these can be tens of thousands of years old and more, even spanning all the way back to the beginning of creation itself.
Your spiritual mentor is not assigned to you randomly.
A request is made directly to the highest being: Tai Shang Lao Jun, whom specifically assigns your teacher to you.
They are matched, based on your personality and current level of development.
Tai Shang Lao Jun is also known as the treasurer of spirits and is most prominently known for his physical incarnation as the teacher and founding father of Taoism; Lao Zi.
Once initiated, practitioners will be able to connect with other dimensions in a fully aware non-trance state and establish a connection with the divine realms to learn, study and develop their physical, energetic and spiritual bodies.
Among many other things, these ability will allow you to connect and communicate with any immortal or holy spirit across any belief system, allow you to unravel the secrets of life and the after-life and lead you into the core understanding of Taoism, which is the fundamental origin of all Taoist skills and knowledge such as, medicine, feng shui (geomancy), meditation, talisman skills, qigong and shen skills, ceremonies and more.
Your Fu Fa Shen, will guide you through your practice in a manner specific to your level of development and understanding.
During day 2, you will be trained in how to perform Taoist exercises, including basic Qi Gong (Breath exercises) and Jing Zuo (meditation).
After the seminar and initiation event. You can go back home and continue to safely practice the system under the guidance of your Fu Fa Shen, without the need for further assistance. All teaching will be administered by your FFS.
This is a rare opportunity to be initiated by a Taoist Master from a rare Taoist school, which is currently the only known lineage holder of the authentic spiritual guidance art of the East.
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that time I drove from albany to boston in the middle of the night, the mileage marker saying 187 miles to go or something of that sort....well, it wasnt absolutely useless
but I knew I was heading in the right direction at a good speed
It is not absolutely useless, in fact, not at the least. But in the context of Yang Shen being the final goal of this part of the practice as described in this book, the author emphasized this on purpose; so as not to let the practitioner become entrapped in the wonders and skills produced at this stage of development, of which there are many; such as spirit projection, and like Joe said, it is a measure of progress.
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I'm not sure about the question, exactly ..well, I don't know if I understand. But if we ask:
"If one stops learning, does one forget?"
"If one stops lifting weights, does one become weaker?"
The answer is yes.
A friend of mine came to England when he was 13. In his teens, he gradually forgot alot of his mother tongue. Going back there to work, he picked it up again. He's now losing it again.
It is different with internal work.
Some transformations can be reversed, others are permanent reactions of the formless and alter you without a direct possibility of return.
Thus there is that which can be lost; that which is local and there is that which cannot; which is without location.
It is not like remembering and forgetting with the brain.
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What book is this clip from? It looks worth reading.
That is an understatement : )
It's called The Inner Teachings of Taoism by Zhang Boduan.
While you're on that wavelength, also grab the Wuzhen Pian.
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