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I take your remark as being way out of context to this string... namely because it has been recognized here by many that the Buddha was not an anti-godder type of reactionary. (as shown by his interactions with and recognition of the particualar god mentioned, and also with other god type of beings that He mentioned in various suttas. The term "Belief religions" is one giant negative generalization in the context you have presented it, for I feel that most Buddhists also have degrees and or forms of faith and belief; for instance in prayers and hopes to the Goddess Quan Yin.
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You can take my points any way you wish.
Although:
My obvious points are outsourced, provable and well within the scope of Taoist concepts.
It is your thread that is the one contrary to this website.
The Taoist way as well as Buddhism is about philosophy - not religious insainity.
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--- Imagine that, a God being the pivotal key in saving Buddhism (as from Shakyamuni Buddha) right at its beginning! Maybe this sutta will give anti-goders something new to consider but I'm not betting on it
Imagine this: The Belief Religions have reached a point of WAR that people are seeing the truth behind them and leaving the churches to rot where they stand as the priests rape and pilage the comunities for what they can take. Read the News.
And NOW the leaders of the dieing churches are willing to do anything to try to bring back their vanishing power over the people.
At the churches highest point, during the 1970's the 3 main points of USA's economy was the Churches, Oil and Drugs.
"Priests Rape Boys: an air-tight, three word case against the Catholic church. The Catholic Church is the largest, most well-funded and organized pedophile group in the history of man! No further proof need be given on the Judgment Day against every single person of authority in that monstrous organization of perverts. The case is as open and shut as a murder case where the murder is actually witnessed by the judge and jury themselves. "
http://www.priestsrapeboys.com/
Well, at least we know where you-all stand or rather prostrate yourselves on the issue.
Although - I would not try to suck others into it.
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Why not just make it here? If you know what you are talking about, it will evolve, if you don't...
It seems to me that all you guys are doing is wishfull thinking in print .
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The future is being shaped in the Now. Where the past is, is obviously not a direction, but a location related to personal experience.
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Why not just make it here? If you know what you are talking about, it will evolve, if you don't...
It seems to me that all you guys are doing is wishfull thinking in print .
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For those of you who meditate in Seiza posture i was wondering if you could give me some insight.
-Whenever i use seiza posture for meditation my legs fall asleep and i feel pain in my rignht ankle.
-Is this simply a matter of stretching out my joints and persistance in seiza position which will allow me to stay in this position for long periods of time or is this simply not a good posture for suspended meditation?
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Tradition is intertwined with the culture where the tradition has developed.
From what I've read, the 'Seiza' is for formal situations where a person needs to sit, in a position easy to rise from, for only a small time when preparing tea, serving others etc.
Here's what I found on the web.
"Difficulties with the Seiza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiza#Difficulties
Sometimes stools are provided for elderly or injured people even when others are expected to sit seiza-style. It is advisable, particularly in formal situations, to at least try to sit seiza-style. Non-Japanese who have not grown up sitting in this posture may, however, have difficulty assuming it at all. Those unfamiliar with seiza will likely find that maintaining it for more than a minute or two tends to lead to loss of circulation, with the accompanying 'pins and needles' feeling, followed by painful burning sensations, and then eventually complete numbness in the legs. However, the physical discomfort lessens with experience as the circulation of the blood improves. Experienced seiza practitioners can maintain the posture for forty minutes or more with minimal discomfort. Certain knee problems are greatly agitated when assuming this position, specifically Osgood-Schlatter disease.
Special seiza stools are available in Japan. They are folding stools, small enough to be carried in a handbag, which are placed between the feet and on which one rests the buttocks when sitting seiza-style. They allow one to maintain the appearance of sitting seiza while discreetly taking pressure off the heels and feet."
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I took Japanese style karate also (Chito-Ryu) for about 12 years and taught it for 5 years. After I began traveling, I quit most of the practice but kept limber.
I have retained the secondary reactions etc -
Meditation, to me, takes priority over all else.
Although - I find it a bit strange that I prefer to meditate on a bus more than all other places... (I think it is the seat.
I almost forgot - the primary law of archetecture:
"Form Follows Function."
It seems, to me, to be applicable in this scenerio.
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NLP techniques work well and quickly. Other than that, you need wisdom, and that takes time. So if you want a cheap and dirty method, check out NLP. The real method though, the heavy duty one, the real deal, is wisdom (which takes time and has no short-cuts).
Excelent post - I used this method to remove some unintended psycological programming from my first teacher when I was 17 .
What happened was this:
When teaching me the Savasana, he told me to watch for the "Guardian of the gates" which was what I was most afraid of and I would need to defeat it before future progress could happen.
The Savasana is the meditation that leads to astral projection and, once out, sure enough a green snake came after me and bit my arm. I imediately returned to my body and stopped the astral projection exercises. Even knowing that green snakes were not poisonous, I kept this fear for some yearsand sure enough, it halted my progression. I did still practice the Savasana and am recently returning to astral projection.
An interesting evolution of the problem was that, some years later, when I came to Asia, I found a very small house on the Mountain where the temple of 10,000 Buddhas is located in Sha Tin. http://blog.seattlepi.com/redlantern/archives/133497.asp?from=blog_last3 After I moved in, The owner began keeping dogs for protection. He fed the dogs too much and rats came to eat the rest. After the rat population grew, snakes came to eat the rats. One day I came home to find a Huge green snake in my bedroom - (In China green snakes are extremely poisonous) which prompted me to move out ASAP. A few weeks later the spring rains came and a portion of the mountain came down and crushed the little house I was living in. The snake served to get me out of the house and actually saved my life.
I've since discovered that snakes live around areas where rats live AKA garbage spill areas and kept an eye out as well as beating the bush with a bamboo stick which has worked to send the snakes away as well as a few rats..Point being that it may not be the water jets that is sending the message - it may be the water - reminding of a previous life experience of drowning.
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It's important to understand that you can't find god through reason. This is an important theme in both Tao and Zen. The point of the koan is to teach you that reason has limits. Reason is abstract and symbolic. Tao or the experience of god is not at all sybolic. It is direct. For example, try to explain the feeling of love using reason. No explanation will ever help you get the insight that you get from the experience. Furthermore, if you try to reason about love - how you should find it, what it should be like, what you can expect - you are likely to prevent it from happening.
The answer for why you cannot find god is that there is no supernatural, mythical being.
AKA:
There is No God
Preaching Religion?
A return of the dark ages where there is no Science?
Very Sad but expected
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Right! Remember Shams.
I thought this is fun...
A detailed Summary of Ali
"I am the greatest!!! I'm young; I'm handsome; I'm fast. I can't possibly be beat. They all must fall in the round I call. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked. The heavyweight champion of the world should be pretty like me. It ain't bragging if you can back it up. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. I'm so mean, I make medicine sick. I shook up the world.
Me! Whee!!!." *
"These words come from the mouth of Muhammad Ali. If you ever hear a man speak of himself in such a way, it makes you wonder. It makes you wonder if he has the right to speak the way he does. It makes you wonder if people accept him without any hostility. It makes you wonder what is so special about this person. If anybody, Muhammad Ali is the man that has the right to speak the way he does. In the boxing ring, he was feared and respected for his accomplishments. However, Muhammad Ali was known for his ego. It was an ego that people both loved and hated but also an ego which ended his career twice. Even with this ego of his, Ali always had a way of pulling in people with his sarcastic humor and charm. He was simply a man that had to be loved and respected by everybody. Ali loved life and everything about it."
*=Shortest poem!
Thought I'd borrow this as food for thought, just a thought.
WWTD (What would Tyson do?) Yea Right!??? How could you ever measure that?
Preaching Religion?
A return of the dark ages where there is no Science?
Very Sad but expected
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'Listen to what Hakim Sana'i said:
"Rest where you drank your wine your drunken head!"
For from the tavern if a drunk should stray
He'll seem a clown with whom the children play:
He'll tumble into puddles everywhere
And all the wretches will laugh, point, and stare;
They'll follow him because he's strange and new
Although of drunkenness they have no clue.
Except those drunk in God, men are just boys,
Mature men flee their passions and their toys:
God said, 'The world is just a toy, and you
Are merely children'- what God says is true!
You keep bringing toys down from the shelf-
You won't gain wisdom til you slay your self!
Lust here's like infants having sex, my friend,
Compared with what's there at the other end:
What's infant sex? Play-acting that brings laughter
Compared with sex by Rostam or a martyr;
The wars of men are like an infant's fight
Meaningless, senseless, base, without real might:
They brandish wooden swords and then take aim,
But there's no point or meaning to their game:
They ride a length of wood just like at school,
Saying, 'Here's Boraq, and here's the Prophet's mule!'
They carry it themselves, but stupidly
They think they're being borne majestically-
Wait til the day those borne by God should race
Beyond the nine-tiered heavens at great pace:
Spirits and angels to Him will ascend-
And make the heavens shake from end to end.
Children, you ride your skirts and run the course,
Clutching the hem to make it seem a horse,
Opinion does not free you from all need-
You won't reach heaven on your reasoning's steed:
Relying on the stronger point of view
Don't doubt the sun when it's in front of you!
It's time now to look down at your own steed-
You've made it from your own two feet, take heed!
Your every feeling, fancy, sense, and care
Is like the children's wooden horse, beware!
Knowledge of mystics was the steed they rode,
Knowledge of sensual men an extra load.
Heart knowledge helps you when it fills you there,
But other knowledge is a cross to bear:
'Like asses carrying their books,' God said,
Knowledge that's not from him wears down your head!
It has no meaning- shell without a core,
It doesn't last, like make-up on a whore!
But when you bear the burden well, it will
Be taken off and you'll feel such a thrill,
So don't bear knowledge for your own sake. friend,
And you'll find inner knowledge in the end-
Then you may ride on knowledge's fast steed
And watch the load fall off and your soul freed.
Preaching Religion?
A return of the dark ages where there is no Science?
Very Sad but expected
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By "book," are you referring to the Tao Te Ching or the Chuang Tzu or both?
In China there is only one Tao and only one book on it.
Chuang Tzu was only an echo of what he had listened to.
http://www.answers.com/topic/zhuang-zi
To make a long story short - I've been in China, studying Chinese philosophy, for more years than most of you have education -from grade 1 to now. If you want to see the reality of Chinese philosophy read A Short History of Chinese Philosophy by Feng Youlan AKA: Fung Yu-Lan (simplified Chinese: 冯友兰; traditional Chinese: 馮友蘭; pinyin: Féng Yǒulán; Wade-Giles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feng_Youlan
To give you an idea, Dr. Feng Youlan was brought over from China, during the Japanese attacks on China, during WW1 & WW2 and given an honorary Doctorate degree from Princeton University, and a Professor position, simply to learn Chinese History from him.
My best friend here has a Masters Degree in Chinese Philosophy & History from the Chinese University, the top University in China for history/philosophy, that he taught in, after his return, she studied under him. I had the honnor to meet and talk to him.
Read the book.
You are in the field of Chinese culture and becoming an embarrassment to those that can read and reason.
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This will be my last post.
For me, this forum has served it's purpose.
The knowledge and wisdom I have gained here has made me the person I am today, and for that I am truly grateful.
I have tried many systems, techniques, religions, belief systems etc etc, and been down many side roads and dead ends. But all that has culminated in my discovery of Original Mind.
I have no need for more information anymore, however good it is. All 'systems' have dropped away leaving only pure essence.
The catalyst for my 'awakening' was 'The Secret Of The Golden Flower' by Thomas Cleary.
Without this forum I wouldn't have found it.
Thank you to all the Tao Bums.
Goodbye.
As one journey ends, another begins, neverending.
Enjoy your now, but keep your eyes open.
It is not about a discovery.
More like a rebirth.
New Awakenings
into Forever.
into Now.
C U soon.
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The Tao was created was it? By what or whom?
Read the book.
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A god was key in saving Buddhism
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Let's see... on the subject of Insainity: Religions were responsible for how many wars just in the past 1,000 years? (Hint, begin with the Holy Crusades that are continuing today) Then Try looking into the history of the dark ages, The history of Roman Emperor Constantine, Salem witch killings, the rape of children in the churches, the church against; science, evolution, ... etc, etc, etc.
Now contrast that with Buddhism
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Buddhism is an Education, Not a Religion
Below Excerpt is from: http://www.amtb.org.tw/e-bud/releases/educati.htm
According to the Webster's Dictionary, the definition of religion is as follows, "An organized system of beliefs, rites, and celebrations centered on a supernatural being power; belief pursued with devotion."
Buddhism is not a religion because: First, the Buddha is not a 'supernatural being power'. The Buddha is simply a person who has reached Complete Understanding of the reality of life and the universe. Life refers to ourselves, and universe refers to our living environment. The Buddha taught that all beings possess the same ability within to reach Complete Understanding of themselves and their environment, and free themselves from all sufferings to attain utmost happiness. All beings can become Buddhas, and all beings and the Buddha are equal by nature. The Buddha is not a God, but a teacher, who teaches us the way to restore Wisdom and Understanding by conquering the greed, hatred, and ignorance which blind us at the present moment. The word 'Buddha' is a Sanskrit word, when translated it means, "Wisdom, Awareness/Understanding". We call the founder of Buddhism Shakyamuni 'Buddha' because He has attained Complete Understanding and Wisdom of life and the universe. Buddhism is His education to us, it is His teaching which shines the way to Buddhahood.
Second, Buddhism is not a religion because 'belief' in the Buddha's teachings is not blind belief, blind faith, and far from superstition. Shakyamuni Buddha taught us not to blindly believe what he tells us, he wants us to try the teachings and prove them for ourselves. The Buddha wants us to know, not merely believe. The Buddha's teachings flow from his own experience of the way to understand the true face of life and the univ`rse, and show us a path of our own to taste the truth for ourselves. This is much like a good friend telling us of his trip to Europe, the sights he has seen, and the way to go there and see for ourselves. The Buddha uses a perfectly scientific way of showing us reality in its true form.
Third, Buddhism is not a religion because all the 'rites and celebrations' are not centered on a supernatural being, but rather the people attending the assemblies. The ceremonies and celebrations in Buddhism all serve an educational purpose, a reminder of the Buddha's teachings and encouragement to all students who practice it. For example, the Thousand Buddhas Repentance Ceremony practiced during Chinese New Year is to help the participants cultivate a humble heart and respect for others. The point of all 'ceremonies' is to help others awaken from delusion and return to Wisdom and Understanding.
Finally, Buddhism is not a religion because the 'devotion' used in Buddhism is not one based on emotion, but one based on reason. Students of the Buddha are devoted to their practice of maintaining Purity of Mind because this practice brings true happiness. We are devoted to help others and the Society attain Complete Understanding and Wisdom. Only through Complete Understanding and Wisdom can we realize our true selves and living environment. The Buddha's education is truly not a religion but an education, teaching us the way to break through ignorance and arrive at a perfect understanding of ourselves and everything around us.
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