pamelais

seriously...

pamelais, would you mind if I got in touch with you to better understand your comment above? I think I am going to stay out of this one moving forward... so sick of the whole subject to be honest. Its a complete drama filled waste of time (as can be seen from the long history of posts here on the forum and elsewhere) It was impulsive of me to make that comment (though I do know its true) I prefer to leave it be as I am quite sure things will work themselves out as they always do....

I suggest Jenny's DVD and methods...

Knowing others is intelligence. Knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. If you realize that you have enough, you are truly rich. If you stay in the center and embrace death with your whole heart, you will endure forever. - Tao Te Ching # 33

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I used it as a metaphor... we see so many people talking about third eye activation etc... and it just seems to be such empty seeking. I would rather have pure wisdom than a specific ability. it reminds me of a story : There was a Siddha who possessed great psychic powers. During a winter day on the mountain, he encountered a very heavy rainstorm. Rain was pouring down and it was very cold. He did not have an umbrella or any kind of shelter. He came upon a cave and intended to run in to escape the rain. However, there were two people who ran into the cave in front of him and there was no room left for another person. In reaction to the situation, he shouted to them that the mountain was going to collapse. The two people in the cave immediately ran out despite the downpour outside. When they ran out, the Siddha ran in to claim the shelter. As soon as he ran in, the mountain collapsed. He had forgotten his highly developed powers caused his words to manifest instantly. His words buried him in the mountain and he lost his life because of his own power. Of what benefit is power without wisdom?

Here is a series of photo's taken with the intent to raise vibration to the point of flashing in and out of this dimension at a perceivable rate. It is a form of energetic "play": http://www.facebook.com/ECETI.org#!/album.php?aid=15451&id=1677554578 I have a BUNCH of others from a variety of practitioners and guests. I will host them somewhere and post here to show that this happens with regularity if the frequency is held. This is also with photo's before and after showing that that camera is not mal-functioning...

I believe that we dont have the "equipment" to see the full spectrum with just the human eye. We perceive less than 1% of the light spectrum with the human eye... that leaves 99% that is beyond the range of the average human eye to see. Then there is the brain that allows us to perceive only a fraction of the information we take in, that further filters what is "seen" by our own brain. There is equipment that can capture other frequencies or spectrums that our eyes simply cannot. (Infrared, xray, etc) With that in mind then it is not about the enlightenment of a camera, it is about limitations of the senses. There are situations where for whatever reason it is perceivable, and I believe that is when a certain frequency is held and a thinning of the veils occurs and it is perceivable... this could be called clairavoyance by some, or inner sensitivity by others. The reality is that none of these "abilities" are really important.. I would rather have a fully activated WISDOM EYE than seek to open my THIRD EYE. How important is any of it, what benefit is it? I am not sure, but it is fun to explore but certainly the ability to become transparent is not a very lofty goal. It is much more difficult to be a good decent person that it is to be a good practitioner or teacher and in the end what will bring the most benefit to the individual or others. Seeking abilities is a trick that appeals to ego, if these abilities come then observe and then let go of the attachment to that event or ability. Seeking them as a goal is a trap that is often used to hook people into one school of thought or another from what I have seen.... what we seek often stays just out of reach. It is better to be the observer and allow what comes to come and what goes to go without attachment. Who knows what great gifts will be received when you hold a frequency of loving detachment!

I can post lots of photo's of people in this state of high vibration. We have many from our seminars (teaching self mastery classes) and from just "play" with the energies in our location. We believe the explanation is related not to specific practices but achieving and holding a high vibrational rate. We pulse in and out of this dimension at a specific rate to begin with, when the vibration is increased this phenomenon can be captured on digital film. It is even possible to perceive this with the human eye in certain circumstances. I will post pictures of this happening both with and without intent to create this. I will post the photo's shortly once I figure out how to do it!

Yes I have personally witnessed this phenomenon in person.

Just to be clear I am referring to the photos where he is in a seated position and he begins to disappear and trail upwards. As far as the pictures are concerned (and how they fell into others hands) I will tell you this (I need to be as respectful as possible here) I am saying KAN IS NOT interested in Self Promotion. I saw some commentary on certain websites that he took these pictures after someone shared "new practices" with Kan. This is not what he told us. He teaches through compassion, awareness and a complete and total sharing of his heart energy and wisdom (without expectation of return and no hint of control or manipulation) He is respectful of everyone without judgment from what i have witnessed. Self promotion would never even occur to him unless it was to help someone else.... Humble, compassionate and here to be of service to humanity without reservation. I truly hope I am not overstepping by repeating what he has shared with us.....again this is my personal take on the situation (based upon MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and what I know of Kan and what he has shared with us)

Kan took these photo's during meditation just shortly before we picked him up to take him to the airport.I personally saw the photo's on his camera - time stamped. He was as amazed as anyone at what was captured on film during his meditation. He had just recently been given the camera (previous photo's he has taken were taken on a cell phone)he is no technology expert and (no computer when he travels) these were successive photo's on his camera. (ie not doctored) I have also been present when he has taken other photo's of higher energies and beings and seen the photo's on the camera at the time they were taken. Kan is no fake, anyone that has been in his presence would ever suggest this. He is the real deal and these pictures are real. believe what you will.... but please know he certainly isnt the one who circulated these photo's. When we saw them we asked that he emailed them to us when he got home(at our urging, we asked for them) he didnt offer them up or ask for them to be shared AT ALL. Some other folks got ahold of these and started circulating them and posting them on websites... Other photo's he has taken we asked to share with people... he was fine with it but it was never his intent. from our perspective, these seemed more personal so we didnt put them out there. but they are out there now and being criticized and evaluated. which is fine.... I can just say I know they are real and I saw them just shortly after they were taken. He never asked for this so its certainly not a form of self promotion. I believe he is activated through his own special gifts and dedication. This I know for certain. He is the most compassionate human being I have ever met. I just had to add that to this discussion but I know its hard to swallow for some that this could possibly be real... Its real.

HELLO tao bums! just a hello and sending great appreciation for this site.... i live at eceti sanctuary (gillilands ranch) and have been practicing kunlun nei gung and chi gung for almost a year now. it has been amazing.... we offer classes and workshops here at the ranch teaching these practices (taught by max / chris matsuo student Son Tuoc) it has been an amazing experience.... we have worked with max, kan and Jenny Lamb and others over the last year and I look forward to expanding our learning and practice over the coming year. Lots happening here and it all ties in very well wth the self mastery as taught by james gilliland. good times! its good to be here... pamela

I have literally thousands of pictures...i have them on FB but will post a few of them here shortly...ships, light beings and apparitions Kan took some amazing photo's while he was here...below. taken with a cellphone with no flash out in our skywatching field. amazing...: i posted a few here for your viewing pleasure... so many pics dont know where to start!

Start Time: Friday, January 29, 2010 at 7:00pm End Time: Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 6:00pm Location: Tamarack Wellness Center, 3575 Donald Street, Eugene OR Description ECETI 5 ELEMENT KUNLUN NEI GUNG & Self mastery Inner sensitivity training Please join us for a very special workshop from ECETI Sanctuary. This workshop series (or stand alone class offerings) feature the Taoist practice of Kunlun Nei Gung as well as developing contact with the celestial teachers and higher beings. This ancient practice has been combined with the teachings of the ascended masters. For more information on kunlun nei gung go to kunlunbliss.com or http://www.primordialalchemist.com - Eugene Oregon Workshop series Tamarack Wellness Center 3575 Donald Street Eugene OR 97405 http://www.tamarackwellness.com Date: Jan 29,30 & 31 (workshop series - it is reccomended to particpate in complete series) Time: Fri 7pm-10pm --$35 (open to all)/ Annex Room Sat 12pm-6pm / Annex Room Sun 12-6pm/ Delphys Room Flyer can be viewed at http://www.scribd.com/full/24871783?access...qu8vzg8n2v8n92u Eugene_Kunlun.pdf A discount for those interested in completing the reccomended series of 3 classes is $179. This discount has been extended through Jan 28, it is reccomended to take classes in sucession in order to keep up with class---individuals interested in stand alone classes are welcome based upon availability. Prepayment for registration is required for all classes. Private sessions are also available which include: HEALING, EMPOWERMENT &/or personal initiation as well a heart opening and individual contact with your main celestial teacher and guide. Please contact pamela for information on scheduling private sessions. CONTACT [email protected] or [email protected] SONTUOC 808-782-9078 or PAMELA 503-880-9683 Pamela 503-880-9683