enouch

Mindless entertainment - yes. Nobody beats America at that! But food - no. Everyone knows "American food" is arguably the worst in the world. Whereas Chinese food in China is one of the best things it has going there!!!

 

Anyhow, I would also like to hear proof of any Americans who have supposedly passed Level 4.

 

From the MoPai perspective, John Chang occasionally visits the US (as recently as the summer of 2007)...and has gauged a few teachers here.Anyhow, during one of these trips:Of course, who's to say if it's in another system? Although it sounds like all the Chinese neigong systems share a roughly similar framework, so it would likely still require a lottt of proper effort (and perhaps more?) in any system!

What is american food? is the entertainment truly mindless or simply an exploration of the human condition.most nations of color covet american techniques of power...but not its modern culture.which is organic,progressive[according to some]and ever changing yet remaining the same.Individuals,groups,and nation states have secrets...so be it!let the Mo Pai cling to their values,beliefs,and dogmas.Let them share what they will or not. Just as some say American science has already perfected anti-gravity and free energy yet keep it secret.some even say americans have already established bases on Mars.Those so-called u.f.o.'s are really American experiemental crafts.Why would America or western nations keep these secrets of nature onto themselves? the reasons are manyfold and as numerous as the stars in the night sky.Just like the Mo Pai.

I'm thinking of purchasing this device however it is very expensive! So I would like some feedback if another bum has experimented with this device or something similar. I've heard Wang Liping sleeps with magnets under his mattress and other qi-gung masters regard them with respect...so any insights would be appreciated.I'm also considering the scenar which immortalforlife posted on.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEAQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.earthpulsetechnologies.com%2F&rct=j&q=earthpulse%20magnetic%20pulser&ei=-DkVTZ2oNM_-nAe5n-X1DQ&usg=AFQjCNGPt4mH5PXwzpLXxGIUGLy8PeEvSA&cad=rja

In reading your post, I have considered the possibility that one may be able to go beyond all known practices, and integrate the life force directly.

That's the goal, connect with the source directly. However even if you do it by pure means spirits will still try you. Christians, Muslims, and John Chang all say spirits will attempt to drain a person's lifeforce. Supposedly Chang moves his dantien around to keep spirits from stealing his yang chi. He also does this when in China.

Doesn't the practice of magic utilize the powers of nature? I didn't think both were mutually exclusive.

 

ralis

Of course some would say you are correct however believers in objectivity would say the natural world is apparent or universal to all. Like air or water whereas magic can invoke spirits [or natural forces]and multiple layers of reality-not just one. The sun is the sun whether you are in North America or China, subjective interpretations notwithstanding

Any insights on the distinctions in chi when dealing with medical versus martial qi-gung? I notice sometimes I feel warm from spring forest qi-gung but not as warm as I do from practicing San Ti. Also former Mo Pai members have reported feeling overheated [even while sitting]from doing their practices. Any insights into the nature of these forces or is it all a result of training regimen and intent, which is what I suspect.

Oh,Tridaya can bring tremendous heat and energy as well.

Jack Schwarz was amazing with his ability to control his bodily functions. It was disturbing and puzzling to me that he died in his 70's of cancer.

A lot of healers die from disease...what can we say of it? Maybe subconsciously they want to die, tired of living. Longevity has its place yet most would like to keep their looks and vitality. What's so good about living long if you lose your energy and for some-looks.

My question is if it's possible to control bodily functions:blood flow,rapid healing why not try resetting the youth and vitality gene or whatever it is that keeps us youthful and energetic. I've heard the subconscious mind controls most functions and Schwarz achieved his through connecting with his.

In light of the recent talk of superman and Jack Schwarz, who could heal almost any wound without leaving a mark. Here is a demo of pain control without blood loss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UG3EjQ44U

so lets have a taoist breakdown of superman why because im board and i think its somewhat interesting.

 

Superman has various powers and we all know what they are but if we just to take the story as it really is. then one would realize that superman had to LEARN how to use his powers so how does he use them is the question.

 

Flying= maybe he is neutralizing the the gravitational fields?

 

Heat vision= maybe super kong jing?

 

xray vision= fully opened third eye?

 

super strength= manipulation of internal power so it just may seem like he has physical super strength.

 

super speed= maybe he uses his internal power to move that fast?

 

cold breath= ????

 

if superman is an immortal and the main reason he is here (in comic book world) is to show mankind that they they can be amazing just like him. Then why doesnt he teach? maybe he was told not to....so even superman is bound by secretacy (it cant even be helped in the fiction world)

Here you go these should get you hyped! Superman jumping over a house like John Chang!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_XHHCBNxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvwm-D90Acw&feature=related

hello bums,

 

I was just watching superman 1 movie from 1979 and i seen a part of it that i did not remember seeing as a child.

It was just when he discovered his fortress of solitude in the arctic. When apparently he went on a 11yr journey thru time and space and was taught things like immortality and when he came back he was a fully realized and fully attained.

 

So simply put superman was put into a position to have amazing powers by the technology of his ancient race, and he left home and went on a 11yr journey to discover the secrets of immortality.

 

He's also indestructible.

 

Oh and he is powered by the sun so he is an interstellar neikung practitioner?....

 

 

 

 

 

interesting point about the sun giving him his powers...but superman is largely based on Jewish and Christian models. Moses being saved by a raft and being adopted. His powers coming from nature,not magic[his greatest weakness] plus in some cannons supes is suppose to be almost sinless. No sex,no lying!

 

 

it just makes me wonder about the writers of the show.

Interesting point about the sun giving him his powers...but superman is largely based on Jewish and Christian models. Moses being saved by a raft and being adopted. His powers coming from nature,not magic[his greatest weakness] plus in some cannons supes is suppose to be almost sinless. No sex,no lying!

Here's a link for a free Autogenic Training Course:

 

http://www.magitech.com/futuremagick/autogenictraining/index.html

Thanks! I already have that one, I wanted the one by Schwartz because it details the exact method he utilized to acquire his skills. Down to breathing ratios, everything is covered in fine detail.

I may trade. What books would you have up for trade?

I have a vast collection of stuff...so what field interest you? I also possess a vast collection of hypnosis mp3s from Richard Bandler,Paul Mckenna, Paul Scheele, ecetera. Everything from time distortion to deep trance identification. I have nlp books from Roger Dilts, Milton Ericson, Tad James, Kenrick Cleaveland, conversational hypnosis [books and audio]books on modeling and Mantak Chia's stuff.Brainsync stuff, concentration stuff, martial art books, Anna Wise's high performance mind cd set.Big book of nlp techniques, the structure of magic, Beyond Being from transparent.Memory books by Harry Lorane,Mega Memory mp3s and book, the school of phenomenal memory course, Silva mind control stuff, hypnoperipheral processing from Glauberman.

Again what field?

Hi! In light of the recent book sharing on the forum I was wondering if any bums have a copy of Jack Schwartz voluntary[any autogenic book] controls book? Which is now out of print or a soft copy of the Magus of Java...I still haven't read it except for the parts detailing his conversation with God. If you don't mind sharing or perhaps a trade.

Taking direction from Drew Hempels generous offering of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality, I've decided to upload and share Huai-Chin Nan and William Bodri's Measuring Meditation: How to Measure and Deepen Your Spiritual Realization ... I was rather skeptical at first, given that these two are also selling a manual teaching you how to meditate for clear skin... but I must say I've come away really impressed with the 705 pg epic they've constructed. Anyway, without further ado..

 

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HNJ0M4OF

 

 

 

 

balance.

 

 

It is already down! Any more copies?

 

 

 

*In deference to de_paradise and any other members here that find my providing of this material questionable, I'll only be keeping the link active until the 18th.

It is already down! Anymore copies?

That iron ear technique is like level 21 stuff

Funny! But it actually happened.

Good points. Actually, I've always thought that it usually comes down to grappling. Probably a solid wrestler is a good bet against most IMA folks, unless the IMA'ers really spend the time in realistic situations.

 

That systema guy in the video was pathetic. It still doesn't mean anything for the system as a whole, though.

I have seen other Systema practitioners who would be able to handle this guy easily.

Which is why I always advise my friends learn hardcore, scientific street fighting before the heady stuff. Weights, heavy bag, sparring, running, plyometrics, killer instinct never abandon you! That said, I also agree there are internal masters who can defeat mixed martial artists. Especially after learning about how John Chang took down Mike Tyson[before the Buster Douglas fight] and his bodyguards in Vegas!

She is old, but still baby compared to 500 year old masters living in chinese mountain.

 

Interesting how some live so long, wonder what shes been doing to pass the time since retirement 45 years ago

what 500 year olds are you refering to?

I would ask him about his knowledge[abilities too] of Yan Xin since they studied with the same teacher. Also ask him his impression of John Chang and his abilities and if he is familiar with other high level cultivators. Sean Denty showed the Chang vid.. to Wang Liping and Lipng reportedly said ''His energy cultivation is high but not his enlightenment'' Whatever that means.

Hi! Just wondering if any bums met this fellow before he passed, he had the ability to heal by metaphysical means. Lightening would shoot out of his hands during healings, in fact, Dr. Wanye Dyer mentions old scars being healed over due to a session. Reportedly this man's father was preacher with an interest in metaphysics and when Mauricio was 19 balls of light would appear telling him it is time to heal. They disappeared for awhile then reappeared to strong to ignore,once several lights came down onto his chest saying:''I'm am Enoch, I'm am God''! and he was marked with Star [maybe several] on his body...maybe chakra points definitely his stomach area.

 

Oh well, any thoughts? http://www.amazon.com/Man-Light-Extraordinary-Mauricio-Panisset/dp/1590790138

Ok, guys...here is the story from Dr. Dyer's book-short passage-

http://books.google.com/books?id=qKGtuqvUhN8C&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=experiences+with+++++++++Mauricio+Panisset&source=bl&ots=t0sTYNRwmI&sig=UYFYiBj9Coy_ynnS9Kgt3Ihh0xw&hl=en&ei=mawrTIixAd_mnQeXn7TBCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDUQ6AEwCQ

http://books.google.com/books?id=qKGtuqvUhN8C&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=experiences+with+++++++++Mauricio+Panisset&source=bl&ots=t0sTYNRwmI&sig=UYFYiBj9Coy_ynnS9Kgt3Ihh0xw&hl=en&ei=mawrTIixAd_mnQeXn7TBCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDUQ6AEwCQ

Hi! Just wondering if any bums met this fellow before he passed, he had the ability to heal by metaphysical means. Lightening would shoot out of his hands during healings, in fact, Dr. Wanye Dyer mentions old scars being healed over due to a session. Reportedly this man's father was preacher with an interest in metaphysics and when Mauricio was 19 balls of light would appear telling him it is time to heal. They disappeared for awhile then reappeared to strong to ignore,once several lights came down onto his chest saying:''I'm am Enoch, I'm am God''! and he was marked with Star [maybe several] on his body...maybe chakra points definitely his stomach area.

Oh well, any thoughts? http://www.amazon.com/Man-Light-Extraordinary-Mauricio-Panisset/dp/1590790138

I would agree with that. Teachers from different methods have demonstrated 'electric' qi. It isn't unique to the Mo pai or shaolin schools. Alex Kozma, in one of his books, mentions an encounter with a hsing i master in Hong Kong. One patient of Wan Sujian mentioned feeling 'a kind of vibrating warmth, a bit like electricity'-this from non-contact treatment (both John Chang and Robert Peng use physical contact).

 

Robert Peng's comments about innate ability tally with what other teachers say also. That doesn't mean most people can't benefit significantly from correct practice, but 'high level' people are very rare.

One patient of Wan Sujian mentioned feeling 'a kind of vibrating warmth, a bit like electricity'-this from non-contact treatment (both John Chang and Robert Peng use physical contact).

That's interesting a mo pai insider who visited the old clinic said pyrogenesis is easier[develops earlier] than electrogenesis also that Chang can shoot an energy blast and kill someone from ten yards away! Interesting stuff.

Anyone know the technique? Peng teaches this at his week long seminars, Silva mind control also teaches this technique. Both utilize sword fingers and point at the top of the glass of wine or water. Yan Xin has also performed this technique on occasion...it'd be nice to have it in the repertoire.

No. There are more methods.

Santiago tells of his teacher Pak Muhammad ability to absorb electricity into his body. Sean Denty told of a teacher absorbing electricity into the body to use it later for martial purposes. He said some of China's military is being trained in this. Recently a student of longmen pai said you can absorb earth energy and practice peng [tree qi-gung to open the arm meridians]qi-gung eventually dispensing an electric charge.

I'm just trying not to offend anyone's sensibilities

 

 

 

I think a lot of threads in the past have tackled what jing is. I think a lot of people have already pretty much said that equating jing with semen or saying that you waste jing (only) during sex isn't really accurate. That said, I think in general you're more right than I was in reference to what I posted above, but when enouch said...

 

 

 

I was thinking of him working out his third leg

 

 

[edit] For stems cells- there are several different types of stem cells and they come from several different places, so if you're worried about stem cells.... you probably won't have to. You have other stem cells that can turn into any cells you lose when you "release your essence" anyway

or saying that you waste jing (only) during sex isn't really accurate.

This is interesting...those who know won't say and most of us have indefinite feelings[ideas] regarding the matter. Those in the know are well aware how important jing conservation is...just ask Yan Xin, Wang Liping, or John Chang. I was wondering about its effect on aging or staying youthful though.

Hi! Mal and a few others have used foot chi machines I believe but I'm wondering if anyone has experienced actual chi machines developed in China with that frequency of 7.5.Or something like this? http://www.xtrememind.com/RAD2400.htm

Chi machines were mentioned on dvd dealing with Wuji qi-gung-Ya Mu any thoughts?

from Rocky movie (dont remember which part):

 

"Burgess Meredith: "Get outta here!! Don't you ever interrupt me while I'm conductin' business! Move your little chicken asses out!... Listen, kid, you! You lay off that pet shop dame. Women weaken legs."

Stallone: "Yeah, but I really like this girl, ya know?"

Meredith: "Then let her train ya!"

Stallone: "... Okay, no more foolin' around."

Meredith: "Okay, now hit."

Stallone: "Women weaken legs, huh?" "

Also what about the aging claim? Do you guys think people who engage in unbalanced sex age faster? We know what alcohol consumption can do to the skin and body.