bindo

Bindo

What are you still holding on to.

 

 

 

Craig

What makes you think I'm holding on to anything? He addressed the first part of his post towards me, by name, so I responded. There was obviously a miscommunication between us and I not only apologized, but complimented you as well! But here you come again with, what seems to me, another smart mouthed response.

I took the high road by apologizing and complimenting you. You respond with a "my bad" and a "flame off"

Who's holding on here?

Bindo, it's very difficult to read 'tone' in posts. (there was actually some proper research into this!!) I dont think Craig was being confrontational - and he does have a point.

 

 

oh? and what point would that be? seeing that I didn't express any opinion whatsoever about either guy, and Craig admitting that he inferred something that I didn't say and have never said. Please tell me.

You're right, tone can be difficult to read, which is why it's important to choose our words carefully when posting. The burden is on the one posting, not the reader.

My original post said; I read an article a few years back about how Peter Ragnar met Matt Furey and learned about internet marketing from him.

Please point out where one can pose an argument against my statement w/out making assumptions.

Thank You,

G

Wow, that was uncalled for. FWIW I agree completely with Craig. I never get why people get riled up by marketing. If it's fake that's another thing, but everyone has an obligation to support themselves and teachers, doctors, and long shoremen all get as much as they can for their work

 

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Looks like Alex Chiu is just plain bonkers

who got riled up about marketing besides Craig? He took a jab at me about something I didn't even say. That's dropping a challenge to me, and one I won't put up with either. I think the tone of his post was aggressive.

Otherwise, I agree with what he said about being paid for spiritual teachings.

Also, just so we're clear about this,...I could not possibly care any less how anyone decides to market their product, service or whatever. I just don't care.

Yo, Dude!!! Chill.

 

Sorry to have riled you. I was Trying to point out that just because someone is using "slick" marketing does not necessarily mean they are full of shit. You are correct, your simple statement merely pointed out the connection between him and Matt Furey without any judgement. But it seemed clear to me that there was an inference.

 

Who has a bug up their ass? Look to the degree of your reaction to my writing. Flame off bro.

 

Craig

Usually your posts are insightful and thoughtful and I look forward to reading them. Couldn't you have made your point w/out a challenging, "in your face" tone?

I'm sorry for unleashing on you.

G

Bindo are you objecting to someone using internet marketing tactics as being discrediting towards what is being offered? Who is being superficial the marketer or you?

 

Craig

Kiss my ass! Did I raise any objections? Did I say anything to discredit him or his offerings? Mwight mentioned the marketing on his website so I mentioned where he learned it. A simple statement! Do you have a fucking problem with that?

Maybe it's not a good idea to post when you wake up with a bug up your ass.

One more shitstarter trying to confirm their existence by stirring up controversy where there is none.

I read an article a few years back about how Peter Ragnar met Matt Furey and learned about internet marketing from him.

I believe Max lived on a military base in Michigan as a child, and Master Wu Xiao Deng was working there. That's how they met.

I've been wanting a gamma cd ever since holosync started dangling them as a bonus. But I'm not buying anymore holosync levels to get one.

 

So is the one you're listening to from the site you quote? Can you say any more about it?

Cheers,

I

Ian,

Yes, the CD I'm using is the one from the website though I bought it at Borders. GAMMA Meditation System. I believe the GMS 2.0 is hyper-gamma which is different. GMS is more of a soundscape, rather than music.

Awakened Mind System 2.0 (single cd) is also excellent.

What else would you like to know?

G

In his fantastic tell it like it really is Blog William Bodhri ... says That's why I always tell you to practice the skeleton visualization method and breathing practices and mantra practice or use Tsong Khapa's visualization instructions for opening up the central channel. Anyone know ehere these posts are or similar stuff ... this sounds like pure gold to me ... da cheng chuan

The white skeleton meditation is available from his site as an ebook. I think it's $7.95. The other one's I don't know about.

Max had recommended to me to listen to gamma inducing music, but I hadn't gotten around to it yet. Sounds like a great project... I would love to try it out!

I listen to a GAMMA CD frequently. Had a very powerful experience yesterday while listening and doing japa. I recommend Dr. Jeffrey Thompson's work at neuroacoustic.com

Jakara,

please spare us your complete ignorance about Max and the Kunlun practice.

The 60 or 70 people attended a FREE lecture. Not a seminar. The seminar is four hours each day for two days.

About Max condoning death. Use your head. Notice how death was used in quotes? duh. The "death" experience is very common in many traditions. Some take the experience farther than others, but nevertheless, anyone who has a little bit of spiritual studies under their belt has a good idea what is meant by the term when used in this context. Or are you just being a smart ass?

About questioning Max. Please, man! Why do you think there are so many threads on kunlun? Have you bothered to read them? Then you know we've had endless questions.

About visualization. Some practices use it, others don't. Contrary to what our resident Kunlun expert WYG thinks, Red Phoenix is about feeling the energy, not visualization.

READ THE KUNLUN AND LAMA DORJE THREADS BEFORE POSTING THOUGHTLESS COMMENTS. AND THEN BUY THE BOOK AND/OR ATTEND A SEMINAR, AND THEN, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. THEN COME BACK AND YOUR OPINIONS WILL BE WELCOME AND RESPECTED. OTHERWISE YOU ARE JUSTING WASTING OUR TIME AND YOURS.

starjumper,

while everyone should feel free to express their opinion, and hopefully it's an informed opinion, I wonder why you would come here to dump all this negative energy on the forum? Do you not have any respect for your own energy? not to mention everyone else's. I would think in your 30 yrs of internal arts training you would have a little more respect for where you put your energy and what you do with it.

Does this type of behavior improve your practice somehow? Do you think it doesn't affect your practice? Will it help you reach the "mountain top" faster?

I just wonder what people are thinking sometimes!

Zdenko Domancic- search google video for Think About It Bioenergy for a documentary on him and his method

Gene Egidio @ www.egidio.org he's in the San Diego area and does distance healing

Zdenko is in Slovania

Ron Wilding - absent healing

I stopped after six weeks because my dentist said two old fillings were becoming loose. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or what, but I got a few family members doing it, and I'm waiting to see what kind of results they get.

Masaru Emoto, who wrote "The Hidden Messages In Water", photographed water after Dr. Sha sent his energy and they turned into beautiful geometric shapes. I think Dr. Sha has some abilities and I've had some good results using his techniques, however, I've never been moved to study with him. There does seem to be some wackiness in his organization.

I'm on the email list and they wanted everyone to buy multiple copies of his new book to get a high amazon ranking. A real turn off, man! What you described, inner light, is not cool at all! Very manipulative. And expensive.

Many people have benefited from his techniques and, I think, he was Qigong Master of the year some years ago. Nevertheless, it may be best to just purchase the books and not be directly involved with him.

I have his first two books and I like them. He's a very happy person! A bit eccentric. Can't understand him on tele conferences though.

He had to hold the san jiao posture for five hours before his Master (Master Guo) would accept him as a student.

Has anyone read, "Taoist Master Chuang", by Michael Saso?

I found it quite boring, but if you're into Taoist sorcery and magic, and religious Taoism, this might be a good read. It got great reviews at amazon. He talks about Maoshan magic and thunder magic and gives incantations, among other things.

midnight PST I'm in!

I've tried several of the "smart drugs" and most of the "natural" nootropics. I would have to say Dilantin/Phenytoin was my favorite. It works by balancing both the brain hemispheres and results in pin point concentration. Unfortunately, the effects wear off with frequent use.

Deprenyl was the worst. My friend and I called it "instant stress" because we found we had no patience whatsoever while taking it, and were constantly agitated by every little thing.

Of the natural supplements, I like Theanine a lot, and DHEA in small amounts works well too.

Mood Factors by Country Life has also been one of my favorites for years. It's an amino acid based supplement.

GH3 and vinpocetine had no noticable effect, but I tried GH3 when I was in my twenties which may have been too young to really notice much. Now in my forty's, maybe I'll try it again...

Zumba was too much! Ginseng + aphrodisiac herbs + a small amount of testosterone = rip your hair out horniness!!

Hey WYG, why don't you just put in your forum signature that you are skeptical of Kunlun, think their marketing is over the top, that your questions have not been answered yet, whatever, etc, etc. Just lay out your whole schtick preferably minus the sarcasm and snarkiness. I estimate it would save you from making about 95% of your posts and us from having to read the same content-less potshots over and over.

 

Sean

THANK YOU SEAN!!! Irritating, isn't it?

i'm reading Jed Mckenna's Spiritual Enlightenment the Damnedest Thing, i suggest you all read it. it's amazing. if you want it, PM me.

 

i see on the board a lot of talk of bliss and equating it to enlightenment, especially with Kunlun. in my gut, i felt this was wrong and completely agree with Jed. nothing wrong with bliss, but it isn't enlightenment.

Jed McKenna is a joke. Please don't even get me started on this clown.

If you think love and compassion have nothing to do with enlightenment, you are sadly mistaken. Enlightenment comes in many forms and many stages. Why do you want to set rules that it must follow? It's different for everyone.

Anandamayi Ma was God intoxicated her entire life. BLISS

Baba Neem Karoli said to "just love God". LOVE

Sri Aurobindo never wanted anything for himself. He wanted to free India from British rule, and then to enlighten the earth consciousness for everyone. COMPASSION

If you want to construct walls around yourself so nothing can enter, be uncaring, and irresponsible for your actions (or inactions), then by all means continue to read Jed's crap.

Hi Guys. I am really sensitive to my laptop now after practicing Kunlun level 1 for a month. The bottom of the keyboard has some energy coming out and it make my right hand felt really odd. I had to switch to external keyboard when the sensition is too much.

 

Anyone experience that??

 

Q..

YES! All this week my right hand has been cold and my left hand normal, but, on a desktop.

MayBbe Max and this LADIE should have a death match for the supreme being? lol

 

WOW, so many new bodhisattvas coming out of the closet did i tell you that i am Jesus reicarnated?

 

lmao

 

This is starting to get very tiring reading all these super path to re-enlightenments????????

Qinway has been around for several years. They used to be in the San Diego area. I don't know anything else.

Thank you for the kind words.

 

Desiring Bliss Spiritual Enlightenment is part of why I even bother to do this. If I didn't want what Kunlun offers I'd find other things to do with my time.

when I get the feeling that I'm about to leave my body, if I have any thought about it happening, it stops. But once I slip back into a desireless state, and just let whatever is happening to happen, I pop out very easily.

If there is any demand or impatience in a desire, it's probably not going to happen. I think the desire for the benefits of kunlun is implied by doing the practice. Ask for bliss, then surrender to it.

Lucky Leo. I've never yet experienced this supposed Bliss that leads to greater enlightenment and spiritual well-being. Sometimes I feel like a failure. All the moreso since women supposedly have a much easier time of attaining Bliss Spiritual Enlightment than men.

 

I've already done 100 days of celibacy and then some. I have no partner and haven't been with anyone for over 2 years. You'd think that'd count for something in helping me toward my spiritual goals.

Don't be so hard on yourself. There's a lot going on "behind the veil" that will be revealed when the time is right. Desiring the experience keeps it from happening.