Thunder_Gooch

I am for any practice which has been validated with medical doctors and scientists present. I am against any practice that hasn't. Again: http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/

People who chase practices that don't and have never done anything are indeed role playing. It's a form of entertainment, to keep them occupied till their death. I think at most there are small handful of schools like mo pai remaining, if at one time there were more I don't know. We can argue about it as long as you like, but it's 50/50. We can do it here or we can do it where we won't derail the thread more. Your call. http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/

http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/ It isn't a schtick. It's how it is (for the moment). Right now there is no good evidence I am aware of for anything other than mo pai and tummo. If you feel otherwise feel free to tell me all about it in the community challenge thread. That is why it is there. So threads like this don't have to get locked and split. Your call.

http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/ You can tell me all about it here. Either your system has good evidence behind it or it doesn't.

There is a thread for that: http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/

Being 100% honest Aeran, these games are getting old. You either want something real or you don't. If you want to keep trolling I created a thread specifically for that purpose. http://thetaobums.com/topic/33037-community-challenge/

You care enough to post animated gifs, about how much you don't care.

Yes Aeran, I am more than sure.

I won't be meditating till May, as until then I have 60+ hour weeks lined up.

All of it is garbage that leads nowhere.

We have grossly different opinions of what makes something "high-level".

Most of the occult/newage authors have never accomplished anything, still work a min wage job and have never amounted to anything other than writing books. At best it could serve as toilet paper or as kindling.

Best of luck, there is nothing else except lots of newage bs made up by silly hippies who live in their moms basement. You can't not be ready for level one, it's as simple and as basic a meditation as you will ever find.

I agree with Chidragon here. Heart rate will slow down to the point you would be declared dead by an EMT. You don't stop breathing or hold your breath at any point, it just slows down, way way way down.

It's very simple but there is a lot more to it than that. Then you look for a better system at that point, and continue meditation. At this point there is no better option I am aware of.

What was shown was just a fraction of a percent of his maximum ability, compared to his teacher or his teachers teacher even he wasn't that advanced at all. I think most people cut themselves off at a certain point, as it's just too unbelievable. Imagine a people alive right now that have become something more than human and reaching an entirely different level of being, beings that would put Hollywood to shame. What is happening is as their spirit is developing they are gaining more and more ability, just as a full grown man is infinitely more powerful than an embryo. Most people will actively disbelieve that anything more is possible. Hence all the sour grapes posts about why powers are silly. You can't become a butterfly without wings, you can't make fire that is cold and dark, and you can't reach another level of being without achieving abilities. There is a purpose. The spirit most people die with is a dead empty husk, a burnt out shell, a dreaming subconscious mind, with no volition, concept or memory of emotion, just a passive observer. The point is to become a living breathing spirit before the death of your physical body so you continue to live past death, and prevent reincarnation in doing so. That's the point. They aren't trying to develop superpowers for the sake of having them. There is no way to become such an entity without them.

Real abilities are not the end goal, they are only mile markers on your path. They also can't be removed from the equation. It isn't possible to reach another level of being without also developing abilities, in exactly the same way it isn't possible to become a butterfly without developing wings.

Most people will never fill their LDT (or anything else except their colon) during their lifetime. Worrying about the next step is pointless if prevents you from taking the first. There are two types of chi. Yin and Yang. Yang comes from the atmosphere, it's an active energy, electrical in nature, bright whitish blue unless opposed by yin at which point it will glow red. Our consciousness is 100% pure yang energy. Yin energy is a passive field type energy, like gravity, which comes from direct electrical contact with the earth. Our spirit is 100% pure yin energy. During extremely deep states of trance, while grounded to the earth, yang chi is drawn in and stored at the naval, while grounded an equal amount of yin builds at the perineum. The LDT is filled to the brim, then compressed, then made mobile, then sent to the perineum where it attaches to the yin storage center there and is brought back to it's original position where the two are forced together. That isn't instruction on HOW to do it, it's just an overview of what is happening.

That's exactly what you will be doing. The universe has led you to water but it can't force you to drink, it certainly won't lead you anywhere else till you've mastered what it's already laid before you.

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When you find something better let me know.

All you need is a functioning pair of eyeballs.

You can believe in rain gods and do rain dances and sacrifice goats to appease them that doesn't mean it's true even if you have a PhD. in rain god theology. You can spend your entire life with random teachings and that doesn't mean you'll go anywhere or accomplish anything. That is still more than you can realistically hope to master in your lifetime if you live a normal western lifestyle. Virtually everything else is just make believe.

Which is still more than can be said of any student of Gurdjieff's teachings. The group you are referring to has invented it's own system, which they claim isn't mo pai but is just as good as mo pai, even though they run a forum titled mo pai.

It isn't about me, it's about the system itself. What evidence exists already is as good as it's going to get. I am not interested in trying to sell myself as a teacher, I am a student. I am only looking for others that want something real, it's not my job to teach them anything. They can do the teaching part themselves. what?