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I'll give you a better example. after paying to attend a workshop you'll have to pay to buy his system written in a large hardback cover book or on DVD. $50-60 American, and other supplemental material is in the same ballpark. It gets waaay to expensive. What did you think of the system? I honestly felt chi much easier after his chi kung practices, although I didn't get anything from his Neigung.

4 stars for Tao Semko, and the KAP. I took the Kundalini Awakening Program and my only regret is the price. I can't afford level 2 or an in person workshop and I live in FL! Need to make more $$.(save save, save!) 3 for Jeff Primack and his system. It doesn't seem as though his teachers gain alot of power from it and his products are very expensive. I do enjoy revisiting it though. His class actually improved my KAP becuase I could feel the chi around my body as I did the chi sets from KAP. His workshop had tons of practice(my favorite part) although I noticed some annoying slackers that brought lapdogs and hung out for seemingly no reason as they didn't join in the practice. Personally, and not as negetive commentary I'd just like to see mroe speekers with Chi power, who talk about cultivating chi instead of philosophy. Also, besides teachers, i'd highly suggest doing as much as your own meditation as possible. Before I started a system I found my own ability to generate chi from practicing meditation and experimenting. Not thinking, not typing in forums, just practice in my futon and trying new things every day. Look for free Reiki attunements. They can boost the internal energy even if you don't practice Reiki and it can help the RELAXATION process that is so intune with chi movement and generation. I'd like to rate Michael Lomax's system but haven't had enough practice to do so. Can't afford a workshop either. Maybe one day. But after practicing his stuff for a while I started seeing him in dreams teaching Chi Kung. Wierd and creepy! LMAO. As a beginner it seems difficult to learn the movements, that's the only commentary I have, other than I felt an energy burst from his DVD the first time I watched it, but don't feel chi during the practice.(I may being trying too hard though)

I'm suprised Romney has any of the female vote.

That's a cool experience, I had one in meditation earlier last week - my conciousness slid down my spine and as I went down I felt heavier and heavier. When I neared my tail bone I "became" "was" just solidness and stability. Earthy. Total mind-screw. I loved it. When "I" realized what was going on my awareness snapped back to wherever it normally resides. Ah! I've been having too much sex and leasure time after work, need to start meditation and chi kung back up.

Why is the Buddhist worldview often times so bleak?

Have any of you ever seen how jaded women get after being treated like sh!t by men? i've seen many a self inflicted cut on abused women. Anyone who is treated with love and respect responds in kind to others. Men and women alike are shaped by experiences in childhood. Although perceptions are personal. Does anyone in this thread practice a type/form/parody of the inner smile?

You don't run into people all the time that have ghost stories, or stories about unexplained phenomina that they couldn't explain? Most people just don't talk about it. I even have two uncles that were out fishing and saw a travelling light at different places in the ocean that stopped all electrical equipment as it passed by, I just heard that one by accident. Otherwise these guys have no interest in that sort of thing. It's just so much more common than people realize. Ghost stories too, I ran into an athiest that had a ghost experience he won't ever forget, but he is still athiest, or so he says.

Really? Since when was such a general and wide-sweeping blanket statement any sort of true? We are talking about personal opinion here obviously, and the thread was started by a troll. You people will feed anything, won't you?

My buddy Matt and I are still great friends and we practice Chi Kung and meditation togther at every opportunity, and my buddy Chris. I don't get the reference?

He knows that. It's called trolling for a reason. My god, did you really just explain yourself?

Didn't anyone read the news how they found an continuation of the Mayan calander? It's so old hat, it's not even Troll worthy material anymore.

PETA has a porn website now. Enjoy.

I thought the definition of a troll post was where the OP posts one time and you never hear from her/him again? Normally it's a single video or link. 4 Pages on my screen, of eating what the troll is spitting. Yum yum yummy yum yum. Why don't the animals rise back up and fight back? Revol-mooooo-tion!

Just immerse yourself in activity. That's it. You want to go to bed tired by the end of the day, and if you have to just get up early to start it over for a month or more do it. Just think *Nike*(Just do it) lol.

So this is a poetic version of a group of meditation techniques? Wouldn't it just be easier to mention where to direct attention while breathing and give a brief, detailed explanation as to what these techniques do? It must be one of those things. If you've already been working with chi long enough you'll have a clue as to why this guy was practicing that way. If you don't have the experience your clueless.

If I were you, I would practice Tummo alone, and without a teacher. Haven't you read the Bliss of Inner Fire by Lama Yeshe? Do you think a Lama went to the trouble of describing how to practice it without a teacher just to be ignored? Shame shame! I liked the heat and bliss, anyway.

Yo don't forget to skype me if you get the time, lol! I want to know how the workshop goes!(Wish I could go)

-K- Would you mind sharing those experiences with my via PM? I won't pry if it is too personal.

A double.

Thanks Marbles!

How many on this forum actually *successfully* are developing chi from whatever they practice? There was a guy who was really into Tai Chi that met his cultivation goals, he did the Taoist 100 days cultivation? If my curioisty can be satisified, is it that chi in general is also on the athiest list of things-that-don't-exist? Or only spirits? How old are the athiests on this board? I'd like to learn more about what an athiest taoist cultivator believes in, and what they actually practice and experienced through cultivation. I've never been exposed in person to those beliefs or personnel that share them. So i'm highly woefully uneducated in this subject. Please teach me!

Weird, did you mention that purely becuase spirits came up?

Correct, becuase notions are of the mind, ie: mind of the practictioner. If you haven't run across something that can effect your energy against your will - or when your not practicing, your probably not developing past your sense of balance. Of course i've seen tai chi and chi kung meditators that have your same problem. I don't know what you guys are doing wrong, honestly. It seems really lame (IMO) when a guy can do the splits or can demo some really effective physical movement but still have no spirit.

Are athiests against developing chi? How do they react when it starts to happen? Do you turn to non-medative practices and stop chi kung excersises to prevent it? I don't see how it can be avoided. It just started happening for me. I even attracted spirits. It's hard for me to understand how someone who practices these techniques can be athiest.

I feel this is becuase 90 percent of this information won't help you. Even religious writings are like roadmaps, so you'll hopefully recognize who you run into in the afterlife/void.