BrokenFist64

Thanks, it sounds like you had a great experience. There definitely is a lot to be had. Did you check with Santi to see if he woke up at 3 am and then gave you shakti until 9 am? He sure seems like a great guy, but I'm sorry, I don't believe it. Like, why would he wake up then and spend 6 straight hours sending shakti to you, a complete stranger?

 

It's stories like this that make me think there are a lot of inflated claims all around KAP. Sure, it's great, Santi's giving, but come on... I'd like to think that he has a more full life than that, especially since you weren't in a crisis or on your deathbed or anything....

The guy doesn't sleep much, I've pulled all nighters helping my girl study before and santis still online posting on facebook.....And whos to say what I was going through wasn't a crisis? I didn't go into much detail about what I was happening to me as some was personal....Also I talked to him a few days after and confirmed with him what was going on and once he said it was him I remembered what the shaktipats felt like since he's given them to me during skype chats before.

Bottom line we all can talk till we're blue in the face and that wont get us anywhere if you wanna find out check him out for yourself . Classes are cheap it's like $30 a class... Martial arts classes and yoga classes in my city I've seen cost double that...So it's quite affordable, I'm still laid off (been a year) and my EI cut out and I can still afford classes so that should say something...

Last post in this thread just wanted to chime in with my story

hope everyone gets the answers their looking for and you'll never know until you see for yourself. One of my martial arts teachers does that, he's been all over training with the "best" martial artists if he finds someone who kicks ass then good if he finds someone who sucks then good least he knows the truth...

Just wanted to pipe in and vouch for Santi's abilities and kindness. I had a problem with leaking energy and few other concerns I let him know via Facebook and he asked me to give him a call so we can chat.

Called him up let him know what's troubling me, he then scanned me gave me a quick healing and list of things to carry out until I was feeling better. After that day he sent me healing everyday for like 2 weeks and sent some shaktipat one night which scared the crap outta me haha. It was 1am and I was sleeping and dreaming and in my dream I stopped what I was doing since I didn't feel right right away I woke up and felt like I was getting electrocuted although not painful but something was definitely going on. I actually thought it was some entity stealing my energy since I could feel certain sections of my body which corresponded with each chakra getting this same feeling, this went on from 1am to I think 7am.

Seriously how many people do you know that would get up at 3am their time and send energy for 6 hours straight to a complete stranger and ask nothing in return for it? Although I do try to donate whenever him and susan hold shaktipats since their taking time away from themselves and their family's in order to help others out.

If your thinking about taking kap do it but remember if your having trouble with something just ask even if you think it's stupid because he isn't there to read your mind about all of your concerns you gotta speak up let him know the problem and he'll be more than happy to help out anyway he can least that's my experience.

And another thing everyone has been brought up differently and in different regions so we all have different ways of talking. For me I can go up to my friends and say hey f*ck face whats up? to us that's a friendly greeting now if I were to say that to someone else I don't know in person they'd more than likely shit bricks over it and think I'm being a dick.

Hard to talk about things online since we have no idea how the other persons mood is when posting or what their tone is so if we're pissed off at something having a bad day and we read a post from another member we can sometimes mistake what their saying as being rude etc.

When me and my girl argue she tends to be sarcastic so when I'm speaking calm to her online she tends to think I'm doing the same thing to her when I'm not

If you know Santi then you know he's a happy guy, the dudes always laughing bought something in skype class:)

Sorry if this post was repeating things others have said or me repeating myself I honestly only read a few posts in the beginning of this thread and wanted to chime in.

I used them alot few months back but honestly never really felt much from them and just found it better use of my time to just massage each hand and fingers for 10 mins or so. As for meditative aspect of it listening to the chimes was relaxing but I prefer to just put on some relaxing tunes and meditate that way.

Here are some good ones:

GNC Ultra Mega Green

Garden of Life's Living Multi

Nature's Plus - Source of Life

New Roots - Multi-Max

Platnium Naturals - Active EasyMulti Plus

Nu-Life - Ultimate One for Men

I take the brand NOW Adam superior mens multi and running outta it but may switch to something else not sure yet. I also take Greens+ Bone Formula, trophic krill oil, and few other things for my heart.

Its ok just make sure after you lift do like chi set #1 & 2 to replenish chi used.

 

Also Massage LW DT and do 5pb with awareness in LW DT.

 

Peace

 

S

 

Thank you to all who sent us a donation for Shaktipat last night 10% went to support the " abondoned babies fund"

 

http://www.feedthechildren.org/site/PageSe...me=abc_homepage

Will try that for next workout thanks

Its normal to have delayed response sometimes. Also last one before it was strong Full moon which can cause heavy detox on all levels.

 

etc.

 

So it was not "Bad" just a medicine that tasted bad

 

Love

S

heavy lifting although good can burn your ojas/jing so its normal to be physically exhausted and not sensitive.

 

just relax today and tune in. Meditate its a 24 hour Shaktipat

Was hoping my lifting wouldn't be a problem, I lift heavy 2-3 times a week. Been trying to relax and did manage to get an hour of 5pb and some tummo practice in the afternoon, think I'll focus on rooting for most of the night since I've been feeling quite flaky lately. Thanks for the info Santi

Wasn't feeling much for last nights session but think that's probably due to a hard strength workout I did few hours before so I was quite exhausted already and me thinking too much about feeling anything just got me crazy frustrated which got worse and worse as the meditation went on.

But looked like everyone was having a good time so that's great I'm not too energetically sensitive I think so more work needs to be done I'll just chill and keep breathing till that happens.

Very interesting style. My great grandfather was actually Chen Yik Yan, never met the guy as he died before I was born. It would have been awesome though

Only stories I have of him are is when my mom would goto his house for afternoon tea and she would see some of his more senior students in the backyard training. Few doing forms, others body conditioning, breaking coconuts with palm slaps, and they would hold their bodies horizontally on a steel pole that was in the ground (looks like a human flag). Every so often he would take some of his students to Thailand to fight and they'd always bring back trophy's.

I used to make a recovery formula that also boosts stamina but if I recall correctly I didn't notice much of a difference probably because i didn't take it regularly though. Now I just stick with good quality ginseng and some hard liquor soak that for few months shaking every so often.

I also have about 14 liters left of some good dit da jow I made for me and my training partners few years back have that sitting in my closet

I think there's a bit more to it than that.

Without jibengong (foundation) training, the internal arts are meaningless. I doubt that these people have been taught correctly.

When you get hit by an internal practitioner, you don't actually get hit hard, but the effects of the strike go deep and explode from within. Very hard to explain in words.

You have to experience it.

I've been hit by internal guys before (not fun at all lol) and I also used to practice iron palm for maybe bout half a year and got very very good results Got to the point where I'd be maybe about 2 inches away and could give myself or others a light slap and have them collapse experiencing great pain (I was young at the time and wanted to test it out thinking back not such a nice thing to do to someone lol).

Slap was pretty much like brushing dirt off your arm or pant leg so not much force behind that. Like I said before I love internal martial arts I got mad respect for them I just think maybe some training methods could be possibly updated or tweaked Same goes to some traditional external styles. Maybe then we'd see more great fighters emerge. Wouldn't that be something if a tai chi stylist entered the ufc and became champ? I'd certainly love to see that!

I forgot to add in my previous post that all external guys should go and check out internal schools too! very good experience to be had.

Also the argument some people put forth on competitions like king of the cage, ufc, pride etc aren't real fights since they have rules and all and if they entered and were allowed to use their eye gouges and nut kicks they'd be champ. Well sure kicking someone in the nuts will drop most people but do you really need to spend cash and put int he time to learn to fight and do different applications if all your going to do is kick someone in the nutters? Why not take soccer and learn to kick a ball super far after a month of practicing that I'm sure you'll be able to blast their nuts into their head! haha.

For me I'd rather have a strong foundation, strong base, good ability to generate power from any distance and angle and be able to deliver it into my opponent be it a punch or kick and be able to knock them down with a body punch, then once that is accomplished then you can add in nut kicks, pressure points, various other things. But if you rely all all of those right from the start then your not gaining much ability and you place too much confidence that those will drop people and end the fight.

I was in an altercation before when I was studying twc and thought along those lines, well this huge guy came toward me so I thought hey nice hard shot to the nuts will stop him !! yeah I wailed him in the nuts with a good front kick and the guy kept coming managed to get me to the ground and wrestle around with me. He caught me off gaurd and by the time my brain was finished trying to figure out why he didn't fall to the ground that's when I was uprooted. In the heat of the moment you will mess up, your adrenaline is flowing like crazy, no matter how much you train for situations like that your not going to be as smooth and relaxed as you think you are.

I agree - probably most aren't taught correctly.

 

I think because many teachers often don't understand the underlying principles themselves, aren't willing to teach them if they do and subtle internal concepts can be very hard to teach even if they really tried.

 

Far easier and financially sustainable to lead people robotically through the motions with you class after class...instead of cutting to the chase with laser precision. Which would save the students lots of time and money, but possibly cause the teacher to lose a lot.

 

Although, a lot of time the simplest path can also be the hardest one...so that teacher's concern is not necessarily true, either.

BrokenFist64 - I would agree that you have to know what to take from each art. From WC I took the concept of fighting angles...which is the whole point of using the wooden dummy. Learning how to get around the body's major offensive and defensive weapons.

Yes I see that problem in traditional schools everyone is trying to look like the instructor and move like them, quality control is just not in place no one explains things because they themselves do not know. Just like my old twc school everyone was pushed to grade every few months and unfortunately alot of wing chun out there isn't taught correctly. My old school no one knew what fook sau was used for...

Everyone was concerned with how do you defend against this punch or that punch?!?! what about this situation sifu?? They get away with saying the type of wing chun their teaching is a concept based art just because they use the tan sau against 5 diff types of attacks.

Why not break it down into what it really is? All the "blocks" should be hitting you shouldn't be seeing what the shape of the hand is and not because your hitting fast. It's basically just counter punching A very difficult skill to learn and put into practice so it is much easier for them to just give students different applications to work on instead of spending the time and actually showing them what its all really about

People in this day and age want results fast and if your trying to run a business you gotta give what the people want. Also maybe since internal styles aren't so much mainstream teachers can easily get away with saying oh yeah I know the martial applications to all this its easy then just bs their way through it all Where as the external styles pressure test their stuff so right away you know if it works or doesn't work so it's harder to bs your way through that.

Sorry for all the blabbering everyone

edited because I pressed post too soon.

Qigong empowerment by Master Shou-Yu Liang has quite a few practices you can do. Also the way of energy by Master Lam Kam-Chuen very easy basically just standing in place and positioning your arms in a certain manner with deep belly breathing. You'll get results in your first session or at least after a week

I think both have their place. Internal guys I've met can hit hella hard but have a hard time applying it in a sparing situation even just light sparing, their just not use to being pressured by someone genuinely trying to take their heads off. One of my buddy's who trains wing chun with me (wsl style) is also taking muay thai, right from the start he was shown proper punching technique and how to generate power, then goto the heavy bag hit it as hard as you can utilizing proper technique, pad work which the focus was on speed and accuracy(working combos) and finally light sparring this was all in his first class and for the past month has been working on this.

What he is developing right away is the attributes that are useful for a fighter, power, speed, timing, and strategy. Also the way they punch is different than what I thought. Before I thought any type of punch or kick they were using alot of muscle power but it turns out they punch the same as us although different mechanics/look of punch they use ground power along with very relaxed strikes which in turn make them fast. Same as how we punch we use power from the ground up transfer it through our legs/core and keeping elbows and shoulders down we strike very relaxed which results in a very powerful strike that penetrates very deep.

Where as internal martial artists I've talked to their training mostly consists of learning the form for the first few months along with some push hands and maybe some applications and that's about it. I'm not saying one is better than the other for fighting but in external styles right off the bat your learning all these attributes necessary to become a good fighter.

While I was studying traditional wing chun at my old school it was similar training I'm guessing to some internal artists. Practice form, ok lets work on application person A throws an attack and waits for person B to counter and doesn't provide much resistance back then ok finished. We all walked around like we were bad asses specially when we could "defend" against combo attacks sure we did conditioning classes worked on strength did pad work and even did 2vs 1 situations and we were all told that is all that we'd need to become great fighters and we'd be able to defeat everyone wasn't until I got a chance to spar against a real boxer that I realized I had to change my training methods. His 1 month of boxing kicked the crap outta my close to 6 years wing chun

Is that to say traditional wing chun sucks and boxing is better? No, personally I think that style of wing chun is great its just the training methods that are lacking as alot of traditional martial arts both internal and external (just a wild guess). Although style of wing chun I'm learning now I will say is far superior to the wing chun I was learning back then (just my experience)

Unless your genuinely feeding your partner real power and attacks that if he/she didn't block would knock them right the F out then what good are you doing to help them along their martial arts journey? If your giving half assed attacks and their defending it no prob sure you give them confidence but when shit hits the fan it could end up costing them their life Be honest with yourself, your partner and your training methods.

Whats the harm with after class just sparring lightly with good control? or sparring with someone from another style in a friendly manner?

Everyone's experience is different, just like Josh Youngs post he stated alot of fights he has seen usually start off with shoving and turn into wrestling matches. Same with me alot of fights I've seen it's either 2 guys squaring off screaming insults and waiting for the other person to attack, shoving, clinching. or sucker punches.

I've seen a bunch of fights where both guys knew how to move and generate power and I've also seen fights where 2 guys are scared shitless and have no clue. Which reminds me of one fight I saw between 2 high school kids long ago hahaha both guys were bout 6 feet apart and jumping 2 feet into the air, both were throwing punches in the air and ducking each others attacks from 6 feet away... oh boy but it seemed to impress all the young teeny bopper girls that were there so guess it wasn't a total loss for them lol.

Also alot of people seem to throw around the argument oh you wanna see a real internal martial artist well go see this guy he'll kill you!! What good is it if 1 teacher outta several hundred can kick some ass but none of his students can accomplish what he can do? Even if the teacher only has a few students outta say 30 who can accomplish what he can do. Personally I'd wanna find someone who has mad skills AND is able to pass along all that knowledge to ALL their students in a short period of time. Why spend 20+ years of your life learning to fight? If you live in a bad neighborhood where there's a damn good chance your going to get jumped while walking home wouldn't you want to learn something that is very effective and learned in a short period of time?

The wing chun I study now I consider it internal compared to the TWC I studied before. We work on proper grounding, generating maximum force in a relaxed manner, angles of attack, and we also do throw in pad work, spar every so often, but most importantly every drill we do we feed our partners real power and intent. Strengthens our partners skill set as well teaches the attacker to well attack

If you stick with internal styles or external styles whatever floats your boat I think that is great but please just sit down and take a look at the way you train and be honest with yourself. If you feel confident that your training methods are sound and are confident in your skill just try going to a MMA gym or boxing gym and ask one of the trainers if you could spar with them after class just in a friendly manner, alot of them are very open to this they love to see how other artists move and love to try to adapt other arts and concepts into what their doing it benefits everyone.

Just like the video I posted a few pages back a tai chi guy gave a seminar at a MMA gym and I believe he's been invited back several times too so don't be afraid to make some more friends. It can also give you an ah-ha moment. Maybe something they do will give you greater insight in a move or strategy that you do or it'll help you to see holes in your technique. You could also take the stealth route, goto a gym and say you wanna sign up for classes but would like to take a few free classes first then when you spar if you get a chance to bust out some of your styles techniques and see how it affects them.

And lastly it honestly doesn't matter what you study because in all likelihood I'd say 98% of the people on this forum or on others are not going to be getting into fights in their lifetime. Just find it kinda funny sometimes people are so focused on learning "killing" techniques but don't seem to make the connection their never going to get into a fight to use it and if they do have an opportunity to use it is it really worth it to kill someone over a stupid argument??

Sorry if any part of my post offended anyone it was not meant to and again I'll state I love all styles of martial arts, everyone has something to offer just gotta keep your eyes and ears open.

Thanks for posting that Just last night was trying to find articles to show to my girl on how meditation changes your mind. I'll pass this along for her to read

This might be a little off-topic, but can you mess up your eyes to much if you are sitting at the computer 4 hours a day?

If you have an old CRT monitor then yes those things dish out loads of radiation and can mess your eyes up. 4 hours isn't too bad though, when I was working I had 2 CRT monitors that I'd stare at from 8am till 5:30pm non stop then come home and get on my computer here and stay on till 6pm-11pm. Although at home I have a nice LCD monitor that uses less power and doesn't dish out radiation if it does then very lil (sorry can't remember too well how they work anymore) My eyes actually stabilized for the first time in my life despite the massive increase in computer use.

If you feel your eyes getting strained from staring at the screen maybe best to take a break from the computer

That is extremely disturbing The worst part for me was when he puts on that wig and tells the children he's inside in each and everyone of them, that sent chills down my spine.

Reminds me of another group, Grand celestial Do. The "master" of the martial art claims to have been abducted by aliens for 11 years and they taught him martial arts and its his duty to spread the aliens teachings to earthlings

Here's the site: http://cosmicfighting.atspace.com/origins.html

Under the photo gallery he shows how to disarm a gun by transforming photonic energy into spectral acidic radiation to melt the gun

Delerium - Heaven's Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=PL&hl=...WQTI&fmt=18

Hey Mal,

Have you ever thought of doing burpees? That way your working your upper body and lower body at the same time, getting your cardio, and developing explosive strength which is important since your a martial artist. You can start with a goal of 30 burpees and then work your way up from there, make it a game to see how many you can do in 2 mins In the beginning they don't have to be done fast but not done slow either, then once your strength increases put more explosiveness into your movements and more speed.

You can check out rosstraining.com for sample workouts or check out his forum, great guy responds to questions asked and believe there are some sample workouts posted somewhere.

I also had a desk job (laid off back in November) and found I was getting a lot of lower back pains and knee pains and nothing I was doing helped out. I had to cut kungfu down to 3 times per week because of it but with that extra time I searched the net looking for a "cure" and for me that was weightlifting. Squatting and deadlifting has helped me out tremendously, I have much much better posture now and no more knee or lower back pain, it's also helped my kungfu (increased muscle and bone density adds a lot of power to a relaxed strike)

I know you wouldn't be able to do that at work but maybe you could spare 10 mins once a week to lift something up? squats 5 sets of 5 reps. If you don't have access to weights you get an old duffel bag fill it with sand and duct tape it shut and use that or after kungfu you can ask one of your training partners to hop on your back.

Starting Strength Wiki

good site to get you or anyone else reading this started.

Oh and in case some are wondering no you will not get big like Arnold or become slow, just check out some of the Olympic weight lifters specifically the girls. You get girls who are 115lbs who can move enormous amounts of weight effortlessly and in the blink of an eye

OK enough blabbering from me !

Sorry if this has been posted before some where in this thread ( hard to keep track of which vids I watched and didnt watch )

Here are 2 vids of a seminar showing chen tai chi applications at an mma gym.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWBBhVLbDgk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIc5NIfrnJs...feature=related

enjoy

I'm currently taking KAP1 with Santi and it's only been I believe 3 weeks in so can't comment on much other than I'm really enjoying it so far I usually practice an hour in the morning, maybe 10 mins here and there throughout the day and 1hr - 1hr 30mins at night.

Just saying a quick hello to all =) and a thank you for anyone who welcomes me