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  3. Posted

    What do you think of the Kunlun clip where Max is making people fall over from a distance

     

    Was one of the many video clips posted recently of Max ?? If someone could be so kind as to repost a link - to the one WYG is referring to if possible, or any others of Max, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    hierarchical thinking is fascist

     

    Here's my favorite hieracy:

     

    Confucianism is for those who dont understand Taoism

    Taoism is for those who dont understand Zen

    Zen is for those who dont understand Tao

     

    And those who do understand Tao? Forget it! For them there is no help at all!! No redemption!! Too late!!

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    True enough there are practitioners packed full of chi, who can move people about and do great healing, but they have no interest in spiritual development whatsoever. (...) One of the things which particularly interests me, is how it comes about that people pick up different strands from within a transmission. There may be spiritual wisdom in a transmission, which one person will pick up, and another one wont. I think it is like Maslows pyramid. The physical has to get to a level of ok - ness, before one's experiences can climb to the peaks.

     

    cat - thanks for this post. All the people I know who are 'packed full' of chi also reflect a genuine and rather advanced spiritual nature. I always thought the two evolved together naturally. From what I'm reading in here, that might not be the case. I'm not familiar with the dynamics of 'transmission' but there might be a predisposition for understanding, just as there are predispositions for other types of development(s), and if so then Maslow might play into it but not exclusively: spiritual development might not require physical ok-ness.

  9. Posted · Edited by hfd

    I didn't really want to attract the attention of close minded ignorant fools ...

     

    And you would think that those who do have this experience with chi, would also reflect the kindness and respect that is natural at this level of understanding. This name calling and meaness are an obvious tell that what is being said doesn't line up with what is being pretended.

     

    Translation: Anyone can parrot something they read about. But it's the choices made in communicating - specifically about how you make others feel - that reveal the truth of you.

     

     

     

  12. Posted

    From StarTrekIV

    [McCoy trying to discuss what death was like with Spock]

     

    McCoy: Perhaps we can cover a little philosophical ground. Life, death, life. Things of that nature.

    Spock: I did not have time on Vulcan to review the philosophical disciplines.

    McCoy: C'mon Spock, it's me, McCoy. You really have gone where no man's gone before. Can't you tell me what it felt like?

    Spock: It would be impossible to discuss the subject without a common frame of reference

    McCoy: You're joking.

    Spock: A joke...is...a story with a humorous climax.

    McCoy: You mean I have to die to discuss your insights on death?

    Spock: Forgive me Doctor. I'm receiving a number of distress calls.

    McCoy: I don't doubt it.

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    And yet it has been shown that your attitude CAN make a huge difference in cancer treatment. So who's to say that your belief that chemo would work didn't have an impact.

     

    Studies are starting to back up the idea that stress (mind-created) has a negative physiological impact. I believe (yes believe) that my body is smarter than my mind is when it comes to healing itself, so if I can just get my mind out of the way, then my body can do it's thing and better healing results occur.

     

    In other words, it isn't the "belief in X" that does the healing, it's because "I believe I will not be healed" is not present causing real stress that could physiologically get in the way of the body doing it's natural healing thing.

     

    Put even more simply, a "belief in X" reduces physiological stress, body has a better chance to heal.

     

    Truly letting go of the outcome, or having no expectations either way, has the same affect of reducing physiological stress. But that's a different subject and even farther off topic.

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    .... is it a descriptive term for a properly functioning mind-body connection that our evolution has predisposed our brains to interpret in a particular way?

     

    That gets my vote. Seems we sure like to give what we experience a name. In this case, Chi.

     

    In another case, Tao. :lol:

     

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    howabouttao - hi and welcome.

     

    No matter what you end up calling what you experience, keeping in mind that people describe, and sometimes label, the same thing or experience in different ways - might help you keep things sorted.

     

    As far as why others don't or can't "heal themselves" - might reflect only on understanding or expectations of something, rather than the "something" (whatever its called) existing at all.

     

    Which is why about the only way to explore this would be to keep in mind what you feel and experience, then as you read these words or those words, whichever words ring the most true for you, that might be the path to explore.

     

    Good luck in your search.

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    Are you aware you're lying? Why are you making this stuff up? I never said Steve wanted me to teach a class and I didn't edit any of that. I just edited some typos I had in there. Andy is the one that told me I should teach Tai Chi and that was like twelve years ago, and I did teach some Tai Chi, he can verify that. I didn't say we were great buds either, I said they knew about me, and Dave and Andy know me fairly well because I am a student of theirs.

     

    That's right, Andy rather than Steve, sorry. Hard to keep track with all the editing.

     

    I got your PM wanting to see the email from Andy. I'm surprised you haven't heard from him, being your teacher and all - which he didn't mention, btw, but sure could have.

     

    He did remember you, though, from back when he was an apprentice. Andy said he wasn't sure what you might have learned because, "my study with Master Yueng was as an apprentice and private lessons so I don't know what was taught in the group sessions." He also seemed to recall that you helped Master Yueng by taking him to various events. It was a very pleasant and rather informative letter. I bet he'll share it with you next time you're at the dojo. :)

     

    I have no need to lie or make anything up. I have no vested interest in either side of this battle other than a perpetual minor curiosity about the truth of things. It's been a somewhat of a pleasure watching everyone's bullshit meters going off their pegs around here, but that's getting old so I'll leave you all to sort it.

  19. Posted · Edited by hfd

    ... hi everyone ...

     

    interesting video. watch to the end.

     

    enjoy.

     

     

    Hi - interesting video! Sorry I didn't watch it to the end, though. I stopped after at about 3:35 into it - here's why.

     

    The Taiji master moved the first lady around just by directing his Qi at her, causing her to move right and left, in response to his 'directions'. Then (at 3:35 min into the video) the Taiji master moved on to the second lady and started moving her around with his Qi.

     

    The only problem was, the first lady forgot to stop moving after she was obviously no longer being directed or moved by his Qi.

  21. Posted · Edited by hfd

    One thing I think I will do soon is install a module into the forum that gives each member a "reputation" score, positive or negative. This will make it so that any members post can essentially be voted on for how much it contributed to the topic and the forum. There are a lot of features of this module that prevent abuse as well, such as you do not just have unlimited reputation points to distribute, you accumulate them over time, by making posts, and via gaining positive reputation points yourself. You cannot vote on the same post twice unless you've voted on x number of other posts, etc. I feel this feature will put a lot more power into the hands of the community, and in the case of trolls will become a powerful tool to "vote down" draining members without engaging them. I can't be everywhere at once, particularly as we get bigger, so this will alert me to members that are imbalanced in their taking/annoying vs. providing/contributing and I can investigate and provide "Tao Bums fasts" as needed more accurately and with a better sense that the "community has spoken". :D

     

    Sean, hi

     

    Small comment regarding the bolded sections. Imagine a scenario where within say, a hundred members who come and read, only a small percentage of them post. Also imagine that the large majority of the posting members embrace a particular system. Those members, through their many posts and self-pats-on-the-back, basically become the censors and decision makers as to who is "worthy" to post.

     

    Of course, that would never occur with the fine group of people here now. Its only the potential of difficulties I'm pointing out that could arise by abdicating your responsibility to one of mob rule. Sorry, I meant your sharing the responsibility with the community.

     

    If this newbie can cast a vote - a separate section for Kunlun might be a good idea - if for no other reason than to inform new people who wander in that TTB is not only a Kunlun forum. The only thing that alludes to that now - is the disharmony in the Kunlun threads. Maybe one of the sources of the disharmony is that TB is beginning to seem like KL Central. That was just a guess, of course. I'm still learning my way around the place. They keep changing the rules on me in the Haiku Thread. I blame Wayfarer. :)

     

    Edit to add: Actually, a separate forum may not be needed. On the first page of Tao Lounge topics, only 5 indicate a connection with "Kunlun". It seems now the focus is on retention and wet dreams. Things come and go quickly around here. Maybe trusting that things work themselves out, which they seem to always do.

  24. Posted

    I'm not looking for students here and I don't think you should be bothering these people about it. Luckily you can't contact Dave, and I would feel bad if Andy started getting a bunch of emails. None of you live in Seattle so just forget it!

     

    I have my students and they get fabulous results, it's the results that count. They didn't have to verify anything about credentials.

     

    I think teaching seminars is a waste of time and money. This subject is too involved.

     

    Luckily we can't contact Dave? lol - I emailed the dojo a few days ago when all this started and got a nice response back from Andy.

     

    I see now that you've edited out the parts in your post about Steve wanting you to teach an upcoming class and how you and Steve and Dave and Andy are such great buds.

     

    I doubt there'd be any reason to try and verify anything further. Even though you are "not looking for students here" - you are still putting out information in a place where people are seeking information and instruction.

     

    It's usually in everyone's interest to know how valid a source is. What you bring, even if it is absolutely bang on, becomes unfortunately suspect. I'm not sure that's what Master Yueng had in mind.

  25. Posted

    No problem, all the above references are about Yueng Chuan, the martial art. Mr. Yueng taught me Tien Shan Chi Kung, not the kung fu. Those lists are all referring to the Yueng Chuan side, which is being popularized in a way, the Tien Shan side has always been secret, at least until I and a couple others learned it from Mr. Yueng.

     

    Also, and important for you to consider is that most of those people you listed did NOT learn it from Mr. Yueng, they are students of Dave or Steve.

     

    Also, my instruction wasn't private, there were normally two or three others in my class. Sometimes we would be there for more than four hours in his garage exercising, meditating, and talking about stuff.

     

    Tien Shan has only had a small handful of practitioners throughout the world at any given time. Mr. Yueng created Yueng Chuan but he didn't create Tien Shan, which is over 1500 years old, he was inspired by it though in his creation of Yueng Chuan.

     

    It's kind of hard to explain why Tien Shan has always been so small, look at it this way: How many people want to study an extremely deep and involved practice for the sake of becoming powerful? One must first become super healthy befor they can become powerful. So many people dropped out when the going got tough? The going gets very tough, it's not supposed to be easy, we want the weak and unethical to drop out! I would have dropped out myself, like many did, but I persevered because I knew I would never find such an advanced master.

     

    The path of the sorcerer is the fastest spiritual path in my opinion, and that Way is littered with dropouts for all kinds of reason. My teacher says that those under forty aren't mature enough to do it, and it is evident that many over forty aren't healthy enough to really reap the benefits of power. The one that goes far is the one who can start young and tough out the hard spots. Those with ego which says they can do it and want to do it probably can't. It's the ones that don't know what they are getting in to that normally do the best. I had no idea what I was getting in to, not a clue. I didn't figure a lot of it out until after Mr. yueng retired.

     

    Dave and Andy and Steve Smith know me quite well and they can verify that I'm one of Mr. Yuengs Tien Shan students. In fact Andy wanted me to teach Tai Chi and Dave wants me to continue learning Yueng Chuan from him and I will be returning to him next week. BTW. Dave's classes are not open. Steve Smith isn't exactly my buddy so much because sometimes I would burst out laughing when Dave would make him fall down =) but I think we see eye to eye on most of it

     

    Thanks for being agreeable to having your credentials verified. It's very important for those who may be looking for instruction. Nobody wants a bogus teacher.