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From one hell into a lesser hell. Great luck with your move!!

Boy you guys sure have complicated systems. Birds tell me how much longer it will rain.

Kongming - you might find some of your questions answered here - https://thewisdomwarrior.com/2018/05/25/journey-beyond-the-ordinary-be-extraordinary-bohdi-sanders/ He's marketing his books, for sure - but there may be some useful information in his blogs as well.

Every action and non-action is one of equal creation and destruction; Every moment that passes is one of equal life and death. This cannot be avoided - why would one want to avoid it? One's life and one's death are already here; such is the way. Those who see know this. It's what we choose to do in the space between these moments - that makes life fun.

Both, same time - has many manifestations.

For me, there is no conflict - but it depends on one's perspective towards the two seemingly (but not, imo) different ways; nor do I see a "lack of utility" for either path in the modern world. Others might speak to this - my exercise is chopping wood, moving rocks, hauling water, shoveling snow. The integration, for me, comes naturally. This depends on what you are trying to transcend or liberate yourself from. IMO - the highest virtue is to be true to who you are. If it is in your spiritual nature to follow the warrior path - you might find liberation when you do just that.

Not allowed to do what?

The Laozi, Ch 29 (F/E) Do you think you can take over the universe and improve it? I do not believe it can be done. The universe is sacred. You cannot improve it. If you try to change it, you will ruin it. If you try to hold it, you will lose it. So sometimes things are ahead and sometimes they are behind; Sometimes breathing is hard, sometimes it comes easily; Sometimes there is strength and sometimes weakness; Sometimes one is up and sometimes down. Therefore the sage avoids extremes, excesses, and complacency.

The one who is able to hear. That is only half of the whole. That is the other half. Life is fullest with: Both, same time. Or so it seems to me. (-:

Here's an interesting link, basic info, haven't read it all yet ~ https://lonerwolf.com/scrying/

If the poet evokes, rather than describes, I agree

:googling substrate:

Limahong - you need to stop trolling the threads. You've posted 14 times in this thread in the last hour - with one line comments or multiple pictures. You've created invalid quotes of others - very disingenuous. I filed a complaint with the Mods. You and they can do whatever you and they wish - I'm putting you on ignore.

Well, aint we just the prodigal pair. Nice to see you!

Because some people need to put things in recognizable boxes so they can try to understand them. .

I dont think you are in disagreement with Laozi's ideas about Tao at all - rather with the words of the TTC, which everyone argues about, are incomplete, insufficent, because they're words... The Tao that can be spoken... Words dont work, and even Tao is just an idea. (-: warm regards

All fixed paths are bound in the mind's framework. That's why so few escape it.

Yeah. I'm sticking with my plan. Keep cool, travel light, stay low.

Oh Drew - I doubt anyone would keep you down for very long.

Steve, hi (-: If there is any path that may lead to this, what you describe might be the most effective - because it moves from the complex to the elegant simplicity. I especially like this: "..and then stabilizing that realization so that it can be a part of every waking, sleeping, and dying moment." It's what I call "Both, same time". warmest regards

LOLOL Never mind.

Aw...whats the matter Sir Marblehead? Did you lose your tool? Hope not - for it was the Tool of No-Tool.

You are right, it's hard to find a word that describes this. And "emptiness" is probably the worst word - especially here in TDB, because it has a special meaning and usage for the Buddhists among us. "Peace" is a good word, for there is a calmness...but even those words aren't enough to express the entirety of it. It's enough, I think, that we each know what we're talking about.

Lets go with that...and you can easily guess who that 'someone' would be. Just joking of course, but we do share the same birth date (15th day of the second lunar month in 615 B.C. which corresponds to mine) so who knows?