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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04dyjc2VB0

THAT is what I'm talking about. Sounds great Dave.

Very nice.

"well the natives who grew tobacco didn't seem to get lung cancer. "

 

I guess I'd have to ask you to site your source for this one. "Cancer" was unknown and the cause and long term effect of disease was mostly unknown "back then."

I was thinking more along the lines of...Are you doing what you love? I really enjoy what I do and would do it even if I won the lottery (although maybe not 40 hrs/week). Do you have a calling that you're not listening to? I have a couple of friends who are professional musicians. They aren't raking in the dough but they are making a living doing what they love.

 

cat,

Sure. But not by doing nothing. Or you could marry a rich person.

I started with article marketing. Although it's free to start it takes a LOT of work, but I like writing. You have to develop or find a product or service to promote. Then you have to research keywords. Then write and submit your work to places that want your stuff. That's it in a nutshell.

...and what is your vocation? Are they the same?

 

I'm a museum professional (which I love) and a part time internet marketer (see my sig link). Are you fulfilled in your work?

Stig,

While I am generally the voice of skepticism, I think you're on to something here. I think there have been in our planet's history folks that have.

"Does webmaster sean even read these posts? I mean, I don't have a problem at all with people expressing there opinions in a respectful way(I think this system is bogus because...) but this is getting ridiculous."

 

I can only agree. I am certainly one who has disparaged things I find "bogus." But unless provoked, I try to not make things personal. But the personal attacks and endless name calling are telling. These folks have no real faith in what they profess. Therefore they get defensive when their claims are shown to be nonsense. Then the name calling ensues. It is a typical, predictable, and unenlightening pattern.

 

Puddlejumper fantasizes about squeezing my nose when in real life it would just get him horizontal.

"I think that there are two aspects to being human. There is the finite aspect which is the illusion of "me" created by thoughts, memories, and physical sensations. This is the illusory or temporary aspect. Then there is the infinite aspect. That which was never born and never dies. True reality. Living humans are both yet the awareness of each component varies. I sort of look at the living experience of the non-dual component as "enlightenment." But both components are always there. Enlightenment does not make the other part disappear, only death does that."

 

Sorry. While I agree with what I think you're saying, if it is that we can come to this awakening while still alive (and indeed we must..in whatever lifetime), being human is only about a temporary aspect of our true nature. We aren't human. To quote a popular pop psychology phrase, we are "spiritual beings having a human experience."

 

 

"I don't respond to posts about me."

How convenient.

 

"Technical/spiritual matters only do I respond to."

 

And why should anyone give credence to this? You are a nameless internet moniker.

 

"Fool is a technical term in Taoist tradition."

 

Really? Site your source.

 

"In my opinion, Buddy is one. Therefore I've said so"

 

I'm 50. In my opinion you are pointless puppy. I am here representing me with my real name. You are pompous, nameless, internet nothing. Therefore, I've said so.

 

 

 

"I'm sorry if that description offends anyone. It was offered in the best interest of those who would read it."

 

 

Irrelevancy cannot invoke offense. You do amuse, however.

 

"I should point out that his 4:10 p.m. statement of today indicates a much less foolish position than his prior ones...quite similar to what I've offered in fact. I therefore am encouraged that my opinion of him will change. Occasionally a led horse does drink. I certainly hope he is one "

 

I hope you are not offended that I will sleep soundly without your fond affections. Please don't be such a pompous tool. I suspect you think yourself a wit. I assure you. You are half right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Interesting. A word to my single friends. Marry your second wife first.

 

Otherwise, you overthink all this. I've been incredibly happily married to my second wife for 15 years. Always it's work, (if you've been on this site and read my posts, you can imagine what it's like living with me) but if you have the right work...it's a joy. Good luck to you boys.

The very fact that we identify with this label as "human" is what limits us. Our true nature is, from a Vedantic standpoint, sat-chit-ananda- Eternal, fully aware, and blissful. I'll leave it to the Buddhist to explain their view. It's much the same but I believe they negate any eternal consciousness.

 

"Being human" is necessarily a temporary event. My contention is that "enlightenment" is being awake to one's own transcendence of this temporary condition.

At least Spetnatz.

I don't think it means being human at all. I think it means transcending this particular ego and form we've all developed. Why would being fully temporary be considered enlightening?

I kid you not. Holding an AK 47.

"The only pleasure I could discern is getting the benefit of your elegant analysis."

 

Ah, the typical self congratulation society.

 

"But, in my case, I'm not really guilty of engaging him, I simply don't know how to convince him to disengage. "

 

Man, this is rich. You're "not really guilty." I couldn't make this stuff up.

 

"He keeps following me like a bad penny."

 

 

Sorry to destroy your supreme self importance, but I didn't address you at all. Did you think I was talking about you somewhere? Telling.

 

"That's the problem with borderline personalities -- once they engage themselves bullying someone, they are relentless. "

 

I love this passive/agressivenass. Again classic. It's textbook. Talking to one while intending for another. Interesting for someone who has claimed "enlightenment". I guess it didn't stick for long. Very, very amusing.

 

 

"Do you get The Simpsons in the UK? There was an episode where Lisa invented a bully repellent spray. She figured out, correctly, that what sets off a bully is a chemical reaction -- they are engaged and enraged by pheromones generated by someone's mind activity, to which they are violently allergic. So that's why talking to them not only fails to convince them of anything, but invariably agitates them further -- the better your argument, the more mind activity pheromones you produce, the more it enrages the bully! I just wish I had Lisa's repellent spray in an online form."

 

 

Or perhaps a logical cogent point?

 

"All sound and fury signifying..." to quote the Shake.

 

And you're a tough girl to boot.

 

I quiver.

 

"Buddy is a fool. "

 

Typically, lacking any leg to reasonably stand on, the knave rests on insult. Did I say typically? I believe I did.

I trust that you'll recognize that this is a matter of perception.

 

I trust that you understand I don't have any reason to trust your perceptions

 

"You would be well served to ask more substantive questions."

 

Oh? Would I? I don't need to be well served. Perhaps mine went over your head.

 

"No it wasn't and no chakra reference was made. "

 

 

Crown chakra?

 

"Duh, is there a point there?"

 

Duh? Do you expect me me to respond like that is an adult question? You are a fake name. Why would you think I give a rat's ass what you you think?

 

"< do however find it disconcerting that you think that that's all there is to us. In my experience I certainly have this limited, conditioned part of me... but I also have a part of me that's infinite, unlimited, beyond "conditioning, just containing everything...">

 

I didn't say that. Who did? You'd be well advised to provide an attribution to quotes that you use in your posts."

 

Sorry, it's not my job to see that you can follow the conversation.

Ah, ok that guy. He used to have an ad in the yellow pages under martial arts with him in full camo. I'll stick to Vedanta.

Are you using the collective or royal we?

Lin,

I'm near Boston, where was it? English speaking folks?

 

Buddy

Therein lies your confusion.

 

Self and ego are different. Self is eternal. ego is born. And for most, grows unchecked during Life such that the Self is overtaken by ego. Thus the value of the crown center activation...bye bye ego, hello self, a-ha enlightenment

 

 

No confusion. Did you read my post? That's exactly what I said, except without any chakra reference. Reality is already here, all that's needed is awakening to it. Yoga is only a tool.

 

"I do however find it disconcerting that you think that that's all there is to us. In my experience I certainly have this limited, conditioned part of me... but I also have a part of me that's infinite, unlimited, beyond conditioning, just containing everything..."

 

 

I'm going to have to disagree. These are two different things. Being human means getting caught up in this passion play we call our lives in this apparent reality. The unlimited, infinite part is not this. It is our original and true nature. There's no "parrt" of you that is this. It is the only thing. All else is maya.

 

Being human involves this dance between your limited nature and your unlimited nature. "

 

Being human means being limited and having the unlimited unrealized. Limited= born, get old, die. Unlimited=Beyond born, get old, die.

Oh, so sorry. I didn't mean phony as an insult, merely a descriptive term. I'm amused by your claims. You claim some experience and then slag a tried and true method that is practiced by millions of people. As far as I can tell you two are the only ones with the audacity to make such claims. You have the firm commitment of the True Faith that you've found the best and truest way to...unity with Dao? I just find you both very providential. I think you are very consumed and convinced by your alleged experiences.

 

What does it say in the DDJ? "Those who know..."

"well,my personal opinion is that enlightenment is not the same thing as self-realization, I have come to a point of strong self-realization, but i know that I am nowhere near enlightenment, self-realization (for me) is simply intellectually grasping your true nature (as well as being able to distinguish in daily life, all the falsehoods and projections of the ego) and having the emotional peace and clarity of mind to couple this , which precedes physically and energetically achieving your true nature and returning to a completely pure state of mind and spirit. but who really knows?"

 

Then I would have to ask...what is self? If it the "me" that we have come to (life after life) identify ourselves with, then I will agree. But I contend that is merely another suit of clothes (the self ego) that we continue to put on and identify with. IMO it is certainly not our true nature. YMMV.

"SJ and I and another taoing woman share admin tasks at another forum. If that's your idea of what a concubine is, I wonder about your own sex life"

 

A "taoing woman" Perhaps you could elucidate exactly what that might be...

 

And you wonder about my sex life? What a odd and prurient thing for someone who's admitted to having an "enlightenment" experience.

 

"... unsure.gif Maybe someone forgot to explain to you about birds and bees... Or maybe you're not equipped to have a concubine any other way but virtually... so please don't project this sad situation on either SJ or me."

 

See it's this sort of defensive passive aggressiveness that makes me question your alleged "enlightenment" experience. Frankly I think you're all self-delusioned and full of shit.

 

"SJ is his own person and argues his own case as he sees fit. I am most certainly not my brother's keeper, but I am quite pleased with having a free-thinking brother who picks his fights wherever he chooses to and conducts them however he deems necessary "

 

I'd have to lump him in with you. "All sound and fury signifying nothing."

 

-- I'm no control freak, unlike what I think you are trying to be here."

 

Control freak? I can only snicker.

 

"I have zero need to try to turn him, or anyone else for that matter, into a clone of me. If you have a problem with that... man you're boring."

 

No, I agree. Why would anyone want to be a self aggrandizing phony?

"Buddy has opted to change the topic to Enlightenment vs. Self-Realization vs. Awakened. Fair enough."

 

 

No, they are all the same.

 

"I agree it's all semantics - that's the nature of words."

 

There you go.

 

"I have no idea whether or not Buddha was awakened, Ramana Maharishi was awakened, Ramakrishna Swami was awakened, or Buddy is awakened."

 

Of the four, only the first three.