Mak_Tin_Si

If you think you know "all" the "karma thing" then you must know the use of the FU already. Why ask?

The Tai Sheung Lo Gwun House Protection FU (the big piece with 72 FU(s) in one?) Or you are talking about the one FU?

Any house protection FU can give "protection" to a house which repel negative entitles to invade the house. But if you have ghosts ALREADY, of course you cannot just tape up a FU and expect to get rid of the ghosts. You must first get the ghost OUT first and then lock the house up with a protection FU.

How can you close the door and expect the "beings" to leave when the door is locked up?

**one more example of why you should get a PRO to do it for you or teach you. One little mistakes can lead to many problems to follow up....If you lock the house up first and try to do exorcism, and get the ghosts out, you might end up harming the ghosts and generated super bad karma which may lead to a revenge from the ghost's side and lead you to many many years of problems, illness, and bad luck!

Normal masters who are qualified, they are able to deal with these high level demons and ghosts too, just harder because of the level of energy used. But it still work. (Taoism masters)

What I mean by give up yuor life is that when one try to deal with demonsd and ghosts who are higher than their own level alot and they cannot take the battle, they die at the end.

Most thailand magcian (Gong Tau masters) do these battles for people to fight off black magic Gong Tau for people with a LOT of money required because they may die in the next second right away when they failed the mission.

Celestial Master Mak Tin Si i belive you can remove these high level demons or ghost. I was just speaking about normal "Masters" not Celestial Masters!

 

And i thank you Celestial Master Mak Tin Si for your words:

 

"It is 100% not recommended for beginner taoist to do exorcism to remove these high level demons or ghosts because if their power is not high enough to fight them off totally"

 

Now i don't understand what you mean whit your words: " what happen is you gave up your own life at the end."

 

Regards

No I did not go to Yoda's house.

The FU is not "do-it-yourself", they are all blessed and empowered, so when one is using it with respect, they are being protect and guided fully by deities and the temple. FU that are made by us are all custom made and empowered with special celestial energy which ensure you a smooth a clean job to be done. That is what makes it different to request a FU from a celestial master and a normal master.

Of course you cannot just DO IT YOURSELF for exorcism!

Mak Tin Si, did you go to Yoda's house before he began his FU cleansing to access the power of the ghosts or demons? Why would you recommend essentially a do-it-yourself FU cleansing in that situation but not in this specific situation? By the way, I am very impressed with your accomplishment at Yoda's house!

No that is not true. For professional taoist, it is not hard to remove non-human ghosts or devils too.

In our temple, we have fought down fox demons, wolves demons and ghost immortals who went evil, thailand gongtau magic, flying head tamed-head magic, etc,... Celestial Master means the master gained direct communication to the heaven which allow the master to gain access to special power to fight off any evil in this world for saving the lives of people who are in dangered.

It is 100% not recommended for beginner taoist to do exorcism to remove these high level demons or ghosts because if their power is not high enough to fight them off totally, what happen is you gave up your own life at the end.

Yes, FU is something that is designed also to help the outsider of taoism, it is like magic. When you use FU, you do not need to know about anything in Taoism nor even practise anything. They are just sacred gift from the deities. Treasures!

Thanks for pointing this out, it just clears the whole thing up!

I am sure some people would like to hear HOW YOU USE THE FU or how it is done just to clear up the thing. It is something new to the west maybe to use a FU, so it would be great it you can explain how this is done in the whole process from start to ending so people who like to get a FU can know what they are looking at now?

In Taoism, there are many ways to do exorcism. But maybe many of you do not know that Taoism is famous for doing exorcism in the past as well !!! The first celestial master Jeung Dao Ling (220BC) was the one famous for fight off ghosts and demons for the people in China, that is what he got famous for too!

Okay, enough of that.. let's get to the point~!

For all people who are not PRO, we do not expect them to go and do an exorcism ceremony or start doing mantra and stuff when they encounter a haunted place with ghosts. In fact, we require them to first tell us what is the main "cause" of the issue. If it is just some place they went to and will not go back again, then forget about it and just clean up yourself then you will be okay.

1) Clean up yourself

When you go to these haunted place and did see ghosts, you are polluted and affected already, so your health, luck and everything will go down very fast because you are attached to them. To fix the problem, you can request the "bathing FU" and do a cleansing bath, then get a "spray cleansing FU" to spray clean your whole house and of course wash the clothings that you worn to this place with the FU-water mixed in the laundry!

This is the very basic step to get rid of minor problems like "see ghosts" by accident.

to be continued...

Just to share,

In Taoism training, depending on how high level you go, when you reach a high level, you will be very sensitive to anything that pass-away ---

for example, if a squirrel was just dead on the street within 3days., and you drove by.. right after you see it, the squirrel spirit will try to find you and ask you for help. So as a taoist who have ability to help them will then do their daily evening rites chanting to help them move on to the other world (yin diemnsion). This is part of our daily homework also, so which a form of doing good deeds.

In chinese called "Chiu Dao" 超渡

I think if you guys want to know how we use FU to help remove ghosts, you can look at Yoda's personal practise section instead. He have already posted how he have used our FU and removed ghosts and bad energy from his life and home. His daughter was the one who prooved it because she saw them.

SOLID PROOF.

*by the way, to the above post -- to remove a ghosts, you do not really need to do a mantra or something because your job is not to do to the exorcism. When you request FU, you are just a user of the FU, so you are all protected and guided by deities of taoism already. Very safe and no chance of backfiring.

Spray-Cleansing FU is a very mild exorcism FU used in taoism. It's initial usage was to purify and clean the energy of a place and bring the lively vital energy to the environment creating a more pleasent, positive and energetic environment for people. So for some ghost who wonder around but not meaning to do you any harm or so will leave the place after you use this because the place is not good for them to stay anymore.

For more aggressive ghosts and ghosts that are staying for a special reason, we do have much more "special" custom made Fu for these cases.

The Spraying FU is just a start off point for those who got some spiritual problems for a long time. Which I suggest if you try this and it did not cure the whole problem, then you have to really consult me and we have to discuss about what to do next. For example to use a different and speciallize FU for the special kind of ghosts you have got in your house. (ie. : ghosts that die from hanging themselves are not easy to remove with just a spraying Fu, you need a special FU for that)

Exorcism is one of the famous profession of Taoism. There are just TONs of things that can be done and there are actually we can say NO things that we cannot fix in the field of exorcism. Which also makes Taoism a very strong religion that lasted for 5000+yrs!

do you mean in another word that you want to get rid of your heart devil?

(heart devil is a term used in taoism)

One more favorite to share, -- the hong kong style MILK TEA.

You guys tried it ?

You can use red tea bags from lipton or something.. typical ones.. pour hot water over and make a cup of tea first, add 2 tsp of sugar (white) and mix some evaorated milk or coffee creme (10%), give it some mixing and try !~! one of hong kong's favorite stuff~

Mudra are not about pressure points, it is about how the lineage or system sealed the mudra (hand sign) into the system for a special usage, usually comes with a spell (mantra) and a symbol (fu) and sometimes even a special unique practise to activate the mudra for it to take real effect.

Just for some extra talk..

some western tea are good with some white sugar or honey too, haha! (teabags)

For chi gung that improve "health" for human, which means to generate "yang" energy, we usually do the practice during daytime, earliest is from 4am and on... avoid 11-1pm because the yang energy is too extreme, can cause you to have a hot headed temper. Then you can still practise and not after 5pm.

After 5pm, yin energy increases, so not so good for health.

Of course, there are exceptionals for different schools.

Oh... microwave the tea is no good, it will affect the chem. of the tealeaf just like putting a cup of milk to the microwave and heat it up will loose all it's good stuff.

For easy normal drinking - prepare a kettle, boil water and then put a teabag in the cup, and put hot water in the cup... let stand for 10mins and then leave the teabag inside but you can then start to enjoy the cup!

Chinese tea are very complicated and technical sometimes when talking about "cups". For some tea you use the brownish wears, for some case you use glass.. some use ceramic.. depends on what kind of tea you drink. But normall we just drink it like water.. haha!

Don't drink tea that are over 1-2hr made, the tea-leaf will generate a kind of "oil" or something on top which is no good for the body. In chinese called "tea-soap" on the top.

Tea are best to drink "HOT".

Yes there is a FU for everything because everything is in tao, the nature. Once one can connect to nature, they can get a FU for anything in nature. or the universe.

For sealing FU, it is to seal up the object or things by burning the FU in front and giving the object a permanent seal and a shield of protection which allow itself to repel from negatives stuff. such as ghosts, black magic, or evil beings.

The topic seems to be abit "odd" for me.

HOW CAN KARMA BE "NOT" IN REAL LIFE? Just a curious question...........

you heard of the sealing FU from me yet?

Nope, our lineage do not backfire, unless if we do the magic for a person and the person do not accept or do not respect what is done. Then because of the "complain", the person do not want the stuff, so the magic will auto-undo for them. But it is still not a backfire.

Our taoism is "BACK-FIRE-PROOF". Not only ours, ALL real and traditional taoism lineages stuff are ALL "backfire-proof". It is prooven and tested in 5000yrs, which have no way to backfire, unless you are an evil taoist.

Yes, this world is big, Taoism is not small neither.

In the past, cameras in china are called "SIP WUN GEI" 攝魂機 meaning the machine that suck in the souls (wun/hun). Yes it does do the job alot of the time, but not ALOT of it, just enough for some evil wizard to cast a magic on you. But digital cameras nowadays do not take in as much souls fragments as the very ancient huge machine. So it is safer.

But there is also a way to seal up the camera to avoid the camera sucking in any soul fragment or connect the pictures to anything. This then make your camera very safe and secure to use!!!

For those who say the "gup gup yue lut ling" part sometimes backfire.. --- of course because you are not a real taoist who are really in the system, of course it backfires. For me, it work ALL THE TIME.

The ending "gup gup yue lut ling" was really mis-understood by the white rabbit. Here is the reason.

hury hurry do my command as it is law.

This is very common. But im afraid this ending does not work in all circumstances and backfires when working with some spirits that are not under this law. For example: powerful nature/elemental spirits. Those are not required to heed mans/celestials laws. Another is demons. - the white rabbit

The hurry hurry do my command is right, but as it is law part is wrong. It is to do the command under the law of what? Law of nature!

You do not understand what is the 3 pure ones, nor what is heaven and celestial, that is why you say some spirits are not under the law. BUT THERE CANNOT BE A BEING THAT IS NOT UNDER THE LAW OF NATURE, Nature is all, nature is all around us, all the beings, all things. What is not in nature that you in nature can see our touch or interact with? If you can interact, that is already IN nature!

For me and my students, mantras and anything in taoism never backfire, only those who have not trained in the right path and gof ro shortcuts or have an evil mind backfire, not because of the mantra or knowledge but because you do not deserve to have something working for you. That is call "karma reaction". Just as I said before, a FU will not work if you do not respect it, or if you are a bad person.

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To add on, people do not suggest outsiders to do mantras on themselves is not because they want to keep it secret, but because they do not want you to mess up yourself by thinking you know it all and ending up with lots of troubles then blame things on the mantras and religion!

Think about this situation - if you tihnk you know so much and you think your mantra work (the mantra thaty you just got online and keep reciting daily) One day, you encounter something and finally realize this mantra do not work as it is suppose to be. Then you blame taoism, you blame the mantra and you go all over the place to tell people taoism mantra do not work. What then?

If you have the passion to do reciting and practising the mantra everyday, why don't you just take a step and go learn it officially to learn it the right way? Just because you want FREE LUNCH? or what? What are the problems with learning the mantra from the original source system? Why not learn it the real way?

FU are not empowered by mantra, FU is "CONNECTED" with mantra, they are one whole piece, why say "empower" instead of "connected"?

In chinese, we call it FU-ZHOU meaning FU and mantra together.

Of course it sounds weird soemtimes to some people to read this passage because it was "mis-understood" and "mis-translated" already.

Is the translator a taoist? a real one?

If not, why listen and read from someone who do not even practise in the system?

This was really misleading for people who are outsiders, and making so much confusions because the chiense and english do not really match and make sense.. only if you practise in the system you will know what they are talking about! The words are not "DIRECTLY" taken in this passage because they are trying to say something else!!!

Congraduation!

I also have a student in my temple who just got a baby boy a last month! now the little boy is also my student because he got ordained to become a taoist in our temple after 7days of birth! Lots of fun stories to share if you want to hear how different this boy is after the ceremony! There are so many things that have just shocked the doctors through out the period!!!

By the way, about your question...

Fungshui-wise, you can consider actually having a pro to calculate what your children's life element is and then you can choose a right kind of environment for her. Which helps with growth alot.

(I also do these kind of service)

In Taoism-wise, it is always the best to keep the child "clean" all the time, I will share about this if you like to hear more about my little boy taoist story!

Also, if you do like to worship at home, you can request for an altar setup of the "Bed-Guardian" which is an altar that sits in the room of the child which protect the child from negative entitles. This can be requested from our temple too.

Just too much to share.. but space is limited, so you can PM me if you want to hear more about my experience with this little boy taoist and his mother... it was AMAZING!

Congrad!

I want to ask "what do you mean by HEALING?"

Healing can means many things. What type?

In taoism, we do alot of healings too, curing illness, solving problems, spiritual cases, exorcism... what kind of healings are you talking about?

We sure can help ourselves while helping others. No problem at all.