Mak_Tin_Si

Religion in the East is very different than the west. Western religion talks about "belief" if you belief in them you will put your mind and heart into it and you will be happy and go to heaven when you die, with lots of good stuff you can enjoy up there. Free lunch. In eastern religion, we study nature and found the theory of cause and effect, karma, so we work hard for what we want to achieve, there is not a free lunch. We also believe in fate and because everything have their own pattern, so if people want to be in the religion to learn, they are welcome to, but if they do not, we do not beat them up and get them to go into the religon. In chinese, call say "chui yuen" 隨緣. meaning go with the fate. What we do is only spread out seeds, and not looking for a result in any form.

God in taoism and Ghost in taoism is about energy. God is a stage above immortals in taoism training. You train your own souls to be able to live without the body. Then you go to the other dimension and continue your own trianing with your soul, and that will be combined with universal energy which do not have 5 elements, but only yin and yang energy. With this you become more and more pure, and eventually you reach a stage where you can get rid of yin and yang too, then you are categorized as god. The other type of god in taoism is energy, The "sun" (in chinese) of a body meaning the energy of a person. When you have Jing Sun, that means you are very awake and energized. The "sun" part of the eenrgy of a person can also be trained and combined with the person's soul so the person can also live without the physical body. Ghost are negative because it is a formation of YIN energy. hidden from our eyes. Cannot be seen. You can also say ghost in chinese mean any hidden message or information can be call ghost. In chinese we say people are "ghost ghost rat rat" 鬼鬼鼠鼠 meaning that people are doing things hidden at the back slowly for greeds. Ghost can be in spirits or in people's mind. You can have a ghost heart, which means your heart always think about things and not tell people with greedy thoughts. That is a type of ghost heart too. I am welcome for any questions on this topic which is very benefitcial to all taoism learners too. Many people asked me this before and they are also enlighten by the answers and made themselve more clear on their path in taoism.

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I think what you were thinking before is a Tea-Sales not a Tea Master. haha! He is trying to get more sales and more people to drink the tea so one person will come to him and say, wow that is a great tea, let me have 2 packs. But a Tea master is very different. He will only share his knowledge and tea to anyone who come along and want to try. Those that do not want to try, is not a problem from him. In the theory of Wu Wei that we learn in Taoism basic, that is the first thing we shall learn to avoid greed. Most people are being greedy from their desire and wants. So they always want more and more. That is endless greed in your life which will lead to total tragedy for yourself. So as a taoist, we learn to get rid of that habbit of WANT and GOAL or even AIM. We set a guildline for ourselves and go do it. The result is not a matter for us. Who ever get benefit is their fate and their good karma credit brings them to the knowledge. For people who are thinking this way- I want to learn taoism but how can I ensure I will not be ripped off or cheated if I pay money. This is already going anti-Wu Wei thought. They are greedy for the deman and desire of "truth" or "real", which is also a greed. In Taoism learning, one shall just go learn and learn, when you set your guildline in learning, you will get there anyway. If you get ripped off or cheated, it is part of learning, so no hard feelings, I mean no feelings. No any feelings. That is start of wu wei. Also what we shall learn in taoism learning too. If you WANT something, that means you have desire. The OuLong tea I am sharing is on the table already, just that you cannot see it because you are talking to me face to face now. Look down and you may find it all over the place, just take a cup (it's also labeled - take for free)

Hi, You are right, the taichi logo IS going from the tail to head and head to tail, in a clockwise motion. See it more carefully, you can look at it as if they are two comets chasing each others. Like a ball leaving a trail behind. You will know what I am talking about.

Yin and Yang symbol really have a few forms. First, a solid ● and a empty ○ is already two symbol. These are the symbol of Tai-Yin and Tai-Yang which is the extreme yin and extreme yang symbol. These are used when drawing fu. You may see it on some taoist robes too. Then the taichi symbol.. try to see it this way, nature is spinning clockwise, so the symbol shall go clockwise motion. If you find it going the other way, that means it is going AGAINST nature. The black part shall be at the bottom symbolizing the negative sink down and the positve raise up. That is how nature works naturally. If black on the top, that means you maybe going the evil way. Doing this you have to remind yourself the S line in the center shall be drawn flipped, so the motion is going clockwise instead. This is the RIGHT way of doing a yin yang symbol. FU always use taichi logo, even in stamps. Different schools uses different spells, hard to share and let you try it out except if you are learning under my lineage.

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Yes the yin yang symbol is a FU but you need a spell to go with it while drawing it. Usually you can draw it to open a channel or close a channel depending what way you draw the symbol. There is a correct way to draw it and if you do it wrong, you go counter nature and draw evil energy out.

What you do think? Tea master is tea master. He just keep sharing more and more, whoever spit it back, it is their own problem, not the master's. But what the master must do is to prevent those who are misleading people about what tea is. Or else the tea master is not responsible for the tea system.

To ask the tea master, can I try your OuLong Tea? First, you must really pour out yours to be able to really taste the tea master's version of OuLong Tea. Without the process of pouring out yours, no matter it is your friend or your tea master that is sharing the great tea, you cannot taste it. Because you cup is still with your old cup of tea. By drinking english tea maybe fun, but you cannot compare that with Chinese Tea and say you know about chinese tea by just judging and playing around with the english tea. You know that english tea are also from China's tea leafs? If you want to know about Chinese Tea, you really have to get rid of your version of "tea" first and accept how the Chinese drink tea to be able to really appreciate it. Then you can judge after you drink and learn from the Chinese tea system. Japanese and English tea are from China. Originated from Chinese Tea. It is a PART of chinese tea only. Not all. Chinese Tea already have Japanese and English tea in the system. Nowadays, people buy a book of TTC and think it is Taoism. That is just like having a cup of english tea and saying you know that chinese tea is like this this this...too naive. In chinese, we have a saying :"You never seen a big snake pee yet" meaning you haven't see the real stuff yet. Now people judging the Taoism Religion?

As bruce lee said in his video, pour out your cup of tea and you can taste mine. If not, your tea is still your cup of tea. I do not expect you to pour out yours but if you want to taste mine, you gotta pour out yours first. I am sharing this cup of tea. Whoever replying do have a choice of wanting to try it or not. If you do want to try it, I am more than happy to share it with you. Taoism study is huge, Tao Te Ching as I said is only a very little portion of Taoism study. It is like the basic baby step for most of us. Therefore, Taoism do not end at tao te ching, there are just alot more...

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Hi, what is your problem here that you have? Maybe share it and see if I can give you some advice.

Hi, Here is what I can reply to your post.. The Tao Te Ching is not ALL of taoism's knowledge. So you cannot find the word karma, but the theory of karma is already told in Tao Te Ching. Tao Te Ching have said that "Do Fat Ji Yin" Tao runs the nature. Tao is karma, karma is in nature, why do you need to find a word in the text? The wise Lao Zi will not write you a book like a manual and let dummies just open and see.. wow, that is karma.. wow, that is tao... wow.. that is chi.. no. Tao Te Ching is a scripture for you to learn from and you can get many things with the book, depending on your level of trianing, you will get different things. Karma is just a basic in Taoism. Cause and effect is a law of nature, if you do not believe it, I cannot help you, you just need more time to study and learn from nature, maybe you will know one day. In Tai Chi's theory they already told you left leg up and right leg down, balance.. World have to be balanced. So if you do something bad, something good must be done to balance nature, if you do not do something to balance it out, you corrupt your own nature (little nature) by not coping with nature. That is Tao. The scripture for babies's death is called "Saam Sung Gaai Yuen Miu Ging" meaning Dissolving and Undo-ing hatred and bad karma for 3 lives scripture. 三生解冤妙經. It is do have a spell and a few fu that goes with it for people to help the dead babies to relief the negative energy and go to their next life. There are also lots of scriptures in TAoism that are explaining why babies are born in 10tmonths and why abortion is not good.. etc,. There are just way more than tao te ching in Taoism. That is a point that I was always making to people who only read the Tao Te Ching nowadays and consider themself a Taoist. There are just much more to learn, but people jsut cannot accept it. Too bad. Regarding the question on Religious Taoism. Um.. I can just say Taoism (the religion) do not believe in God, demons and spirits.. they are not there for us to believe. They are there, so we know. I use the word "we know" instead of "we believe". There are lots of things that not much people can see and touch. Just like long time ago, nobody can imagine you can fly. Now we have airplane and rockets to shoot you up the moon. Taoist can train to proof to yourself that there are spirits, demons and all those in the nature system. Just that you cannot see it with your own bare eye or any equipment, well because you are using the wrong methods. In Taoism training, we do see god and immortals in our trianing and they do teach you stuff. That is also how the first Tin Si in Han dynasty Jeung Dao Ling learn his stuff, his knowledge came from Lao Zi (the immortal). If you do not believe it, you can try to open your mind, get a master and empty your own cup of tea, and then start to try it out, taste the new cup. I cannot write these in words because there is no way you can understand it anyway. My western student in the temple took around 2 years to really know that these are really in the nature, first when they met me, they are like you too. They question me alot and alot. Now they can feel it themeslve and realize the law of nature exsist, even god, immortals, demons.. etc,. They are just part of the world and nature. I think the only problem is because the western religion just did a big fairy tale and create a wrong image of these demons, spirits, devils,.. god.. etc,. So most of you think that the demon, god, devil etc,.. are like those in warcraft or soemthing.. No.. They are part of nature. You can see, and also communicate with them via training. Of course you do not want to make friends with the demons. But I mean they do exsist. God are there, but not those like jesus of course..

Anything is karma, cause and effect. People die for a reason. Babies die from early age is also because of karma. First maybe from the mother, second from the baby's past life. That is why we have to learn about it in taoism. How to calculate.. People who always have babies and the babies die around 3,5,6... is because of a reason. If the mother do not solve the cause, that will happen non-stop.

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Wow, I see that YMWONG is the one here that starts a fire and let you guys all die about it. Then He just comes in and make the fire abit hotter once in a while. Now, where is he? Why is YMWONG not inputting or answering anything I have asked? Is he hiding from me or what? Here let me rephrase my questions, YMWONG shall be able to answer me... 1) Karma generated by what you do everyday is what we learn in taoism, that is why we learn to do good deeds and avoid doing bad deeds. These good and bad are calculated by experience of wise masters in the past. As we can also define anything into YIN and YANG, we can also define good and bad because of their aftereffect. For example you kill someone, it is a bad deed. Because they loose their life from your action. But If they WANT you to kill them for some reason, for example, you kill them because they are in such a pain that they cannot suffer anymore. Yet, you helped them to take away the pain, that is a good deed, but you also take away their life, that is a bad deed. So what you have to pay in karma is whatever the calculation is left with. Which means you still have to pay your karma debt. Now, why this 64th master in Taoism have a liver decease? Is he suppose to be well trained in taoism enough to decrease the bad karma he did already? Why he still cannot achieve a peaceful death or even good health. I do not say he have to be physically immortal, I just say "good health" is what he fail to achieve. 2) Now, people such as this 64th master student are doing a ceremony for this dead person (master) here saying that they are doing such a ceremony to raise him into heaven and make him an immortal. Wow, can anybody RAISE a dead person to become an immortal?? Why we train so hard or what those grandmasters who past away train so hard then? Who is this 64th master? How come he can be an immortal right away with just a ceremony held by "his students"? 3) Is Taoism something that teach you to get "free lunch"? If not, this 64th master is just not qualified to be a Tin Si. He have such a decease which cause his painful death. That means his taoism practise is just not enough to even achieve good health. How can his students or people who learn from the lineage be confidence about learning under him? That is the basic of our need nowadays, good health, and he as a taoist don't even have it. What the...?? 4) As seen in face reading theory in Taoism, this 64th master have a up side down U shape mouth which means that he is a person who lies alot and not keep his promise. I wonder how come a person can have such a face when he do not have that kind of personality. Face reading is a basic in Taoism study which is very accurate. I wonder why... Chinese say "The face is born from your heart" 5) If this is a good Tin Si, I wonder why he never mention his death and told people about who will be the 65th master BEFORE he die. This is a very in-responsible action because now he is dying, leaving lots of trouble and matters behind. Which is not what a taoist master shall do. He is leaving PROBLEMS for the people.. wow. That is a big contribution to the news. But I wonder how come he can be like that. So not responsible for his family and students. Is that what we shall learn from him and respect him for? 6) Who say Mother Theresa is an immortal? She died cause of heart attack, yeh, because she is not a Taoist, so she do not know how to cleanse all the bad energy from the sick people around when she is working for the sufferings. If she practise taoism, she shall know that she have to cleanse herself daily to avoid getting sick. Doing good deeds is good but you need to do it wisely. I can give an example. A person can be so great that he love to donate money, one day, he donate ALL his money to a charity. Next day, he have no moeny to eat and die from starving. Yeh, he did a good deed, but not wise enough, so he did not achieve good result. You shall know that in taoism already, do I have to teach you now? You name a caltholic person here.. wow, you go believe in jesus and get rid of taoism then. Are you really a taoism student?

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You have just mistaken my phrase. I said that I do not curse people for sickness. If you tell me to use WILL or MAY, I will use MAY because if I say WILL that means I am cursing him to get sick. Do you understand? Mo Leung Tin Juen

This is what I was talking about before, bad mouth create bad luck and bad karma for people. This is an example I was takling about just now. Sorry to dissappoint you, but I do not curse people to get sick.

You will know when you experience in Taoism enough. Wish you all the best.

That is also explianable but hard to understand in a post or two. It takes years of personal experience to really know it that way. I wish you all the best in your training of Taoism to find the way of how nature works with karma. I am sure you will enjoy the way. I will share some experience with you later about how people get decease from bad karma. They are just so scientific and explainable.