gendao

12 hours ago, Walker said:

Unfortunately this is not the case. To their great detriment and harm, a great many people do "fake" the full lotus. 

 

This is because it is possible to "cheat" to cross the legs into the full-lotus position, and the part of the body that is "cheating" is totally out of one's sight while one does this. One is easily fooled, however, because looking down the legs seem to be folded up nicely. 

 

The long term damage to the spine and, as a result, qi of the body that can occur due to improper seated meditation is even said to lead to certain types of delusion and madness. Make of that what you will--it is enough to say that there are a variety of serious warning out there about improper seated posture and it is indeed very easy to sit in full-lotus the "fake" way without even knowing it!

 

Well yes, thanks for the great clarification.

And yes, I guess it can be "faked" to some degree - as opposed to dunking a basketball or benching X00 lbs.

Although what I meant was that you can't fake it because if you're not really ready for it...then you will feel extremely strained and probably cheat/compensate with bad form (as shown).  And you certainly won't be able to mindlessly meditate in this condition! Getting into and staying in the pose should be like simply opening and closing a door...not like drawing and torturously holding a bow.

Hence, the casual litmus test is being able to assume the position without using your hands.

Which is VERY rare! And can you fake this...NO!  Just in the same way that you can't fake the front or side splits...

Now, the bad "desk jockey syndrome" posture you describe is largely due to a tight posterior chain and found in probably 99% of people in modern colonialist civilizations.  It's the same reason why those same people round and bend down from their lower backs once they've reached their rotational limit at their hips - when attempting toe touches.

Anyways, like I said, because it literally sits near the end limits of so many ROM, (proper) full lotus requires a whole overhaul of your musculoskeletal system.  Which is why it's such a worthwhile endeavor to undertake...because you can't get there without fixing up a lot of all your other dysfunctions along the way!

On 12/15/2019 at 3:12 PM, Nungali said:

The video is for more simple folk that can only undestand things if presented in a simple video . If you want a serious debate then read the link I put under it, that is for people that are not that 'simple' . I was presenting stuff  from 'both ends of the spectrum' 

 

Ohhh my goodness !      The protrusions dont help slip ropes out from underneath ! What on earth are you talking about  ! They are  thereso you DO NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM OF HAVING THE ROPE UNDERNEATH IN THE FIRST PLACE . It goes around the sides .

 

And you dont even have to lift a big stone , like in that huge lintel  doorway you posted .  You slide it into position. Like you dont have to lift the huge side 'posts' that hold the lintel up , you fill, dig, tilt, and refill . Like the picture  with the obelisk , except you use an excavated hole and a backfill hill  of earth which is removed later.

I watched the video.  It just explains how they had to painstakingly use a pantograph and then the "red clay" technique to eliminate interferences to fit stones together.

And from your second link that also "explains it":

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The essence of Inka architecture cannot be distilled into a single word. Three themes demand recognition: precision, functionality, and austerity. The Inka stonefitters worked stone with a precision unparalleled in human history

How the Inka cut stone without iron tools is not known with any certainty

The glory of Inka stonecutting lies in their ability to cut unusual shapes and fit them tightly together, as exemplified by the famous "twelve-cornered stone" found in a wall of the palace of the Inka Roca. It is both a cliché and a verity that the stones are so closely fitted that a knife blade cannot be jammed between them. How did they achieve these amazing close tolerances?

So, all just admitted hypotheticals with open questions...and no proven answers...especially to the degree and scale found in pre-Incan Peru/Bolivia.

As for what you are claiming the knobs were simply for - do you mean something like this, then? 

If not, can you please upload a napkin sketch of what you mean, then?  A picture is worth 1000 words...

And, I never said you had to lift the stones (with ropes)...YOU were the one who claimed that that's what the knobs were used for!

On 12/27/2019 at 12:21 PM, silent thunder said:

Absolutely achievable.  I started late in martial arts and at first, my ankles and hips were so tight and high strung with tension that it was a real challenge.  This stretches shared on this site are quite valuable in my experience to opening up the Kua and lower body.

Ah, great site...I do many of those same stretches myself. 

Opening the kua is no sprint, BTW...but a long marathon.  Because you will find that you will basically have to release every muscle in your legs, down to your feet...not just around your hips.  We're talking calves, quads, glutes, hamstrings, hip flexors...!  Not to mention, you will also have to release all muscles up along your spine in order to maintain good standing or sitting posture, too.

So, this is why so few people can sit in full lotus comfortably.  Because that pose is like the capstone of a whole pyramid of release in the body.  Where there is no shortcut or self-delusion here.

You can always imagine you've opened your SHO or have filled your LDT...but you can't fake the full lotus!!!

11 hours ago, Taomeow said:

At least read the article referenced for chrissake, don't go running to the shelter of the next new age nazi little helper from it, it won't bite.  All it will do is help you wrap your head around the fact that the SEMITIC all caps population was the NATIVE all caps population.  They were the ABORIGINES.  The COLONISTS all caps were SUMERIANS.  Or rather, they were REFUGEES or SETTLERS or NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT AND IT'S A SCIENTIFIC FACT -- and SEMITIC ABORIGINES didn't interfere with their activities in any way FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS -- until the CIVILIZED and the NATIVE populations finally clashed.  And even then nobody colonized anybody until...  wait...  wait a minute...  shit, I'm talking to Gendao.  I almost forgot.  Nevermind.  Not gonna happen.  "Wrap your head around" -- who am I kidding?..  Nevermind.

 

I think it's time for you to bid your farewell out of this thread.  You've successfully proved that the impenetrability of your head is the envy of all those mighty walls, from Gobekli Tepe in Turkey to Sacsayhuaman in Peru to the Great Wall of China.  I won't bother knocking anymore.  Nobody home.  

Sorry, I was merely using the term "Sumerian" regionally as per the site (K.3364 - Wiki) that Nungali spoonfed you.  But which he then blasts as outdated after I (poorly-assuming he vets his own links) quoted from, lol.  Yet then he still waffles upon...based on the latest bargain bin book he's reading by Michael Rice.

But I guess the main, million-dolla question is - did these ancient civilizations arise indigenously and independently...or were they spread by a colonialist diaspora?  And if the latter...then who were these colonialists and where were they from?

So, enough about semantics.  Let's get back to who the real founders of Sumeria were from???  Answer me this - who were the reptilian coneheads found in the Ubaid culture...that may have led to the founding of Sumeria?  Paging Nungali...

Later on, depictions became more humanized (as the Sumerians had to censor the more realistic images?)...

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The Annunaki deities were worshiped by the Ancient Sumerians. In the Sumerian religion, they were forbidden to show the Annunaki Gods in their true form, so instead, the Sumerians depicted them as anthropomorphic animals in place of their true form. Later on the Sumerian ethnic group has been replaced by Akkadians then later Babylonians until they’ve been converted to monotheistic religions such as Zoroastrianism and Christianity.

The Anunnaki have no defined appearance, although according to the fertile crescent mythology, the Anunnaki are most likely to look like humans in their original forms, but in larger height. The Anunnaki are a shape-shifting race and can mold themselves into many shapes and sizes.

But still many Anunnaki were shown wearing cone hats...or had coneheads?

So, who were these reptilian coneheads found in the Mesopotamian Ubaid culture (some predating Sumeria)?  Note how even the babies are coneheaded...

And were they the true founders of the Sumerian civilization and the downfall of the planet?

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It is a commonly accepted view in mainstream archaeology that civilization started in Iraq, in ancient Mesopotamia with the great civilization of Sumeria . However, there is an archaeological discovery at the Al Ubaid archaeological site, where many pre-Sumerian 7,000-year-old artefacts were found, depicting humanoid figures with lizard characteristics.
The Ubaidian culture is a prehistoric culture in Mesopotamia that dates between 4000 and 5500 BC. As with the Sumerians, the origins of the Ubaidian people is unknown.
Whatever they were, they appear to have been important to the ancient Ubaidian people. We know that the Serpent was a major symbol used in many societies to represent a number of gods, for example, the Sumerian god Enki, and the snake was used later on as the symbol for the brotherhood of the Snake, as William Bramley discusses.

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There are certain Pre-Sumerian artifacts, recovered from the archaeological site of Al-Ubaid that offer incredible details about early cultures inhabiting Mesopotamia.

The Ubaid Period lasted from circa 6500 to 3800 BC, and its name derives from Tell al-‘Ubaid where the earliest large excavation of Ubaid period material was conducted.

The Ubaidian culture dates back between 4,000 and 5,500 BC, and just as with the ancient Sumerians, the origin of the Ubaid people remains a mystery to archaeologists.
Archaeologists firmly agree that it was during the Ubaid Period when society moved towards urbanization. The Ubaid Culture built incredible T-shaped houses, open courtyards, paved streets, and used food processing tools.

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The Sumerian Civilization is frequently viewed as remarkable because it allegedly sprang out of ‘nowhere’.  The Ubaid Period Culture is responsible for the enigma of the Ubaid Lizardmen who some have linked to the Anunnaki Ancient Aliens Civilization of Mesopotamia which immediately followed the Ubaid Period. 

The perceived suddenness of the Sumerian Civilization is used as grounds for demonstrating Extraterrestrial intervention in Mesopotamia dating back at least 6000 years ago. 

In this entry on the Historical origins and development of the Sumerian Civilization, we examine the origins of Sumer which can be traced to an earlier Ubaid Period Culture as well as its unexplained Lizardmen aretfacts found in the Mesopotamian Region.

The Ubaid people were the first Settlers and are notable for developing farming, raising cattle, weaving textiles,  carpentry, pottery, and brewing beer.

Ubaid farming communities also built towns and Village settlements including small Temple structures which would later serve as the blueprint for the much larger Sumerian Temples such as the Great Ziggurat at Ur.

After a period of interaction mainly through trade in metals and minerals most notably the Lapis Lazuli which later became a Sumerian signature used in Jewellery and State monuments like Babylon’s famous Gate Of Ishtar, the Ubaids intermingled with surrounding Groups to form the group collectively referred to as ‘Sumerian’.

This later period from around 3000 BC marked the beginning of Sumerian Civilization proper beginning with the construction of Eridu, the first Sumerian City State.

The mystery deepens when we consider that the Serpent was the symbol of EN.KI, the Chief Anunnaki God responsible for teaching mankind the Arts and Sciences necessary to bring forth Civilization and to whom the first Sumerian City, Eridu was dedicated.

In addition, the spread of the Serpent Cult to other early Ancient realms associated with the Anunnnaki in Meso-America, Egypt and the Indus Valley suggests that the possibility that the Lizardmen of the Ubaid may very well be the Anunnaki Ancient Aliens referred to in Sumerian Texts, the Quetzalcoatl tradition of Meso-America, Egypt’s Serpent Cult symbolised by Thoth or Ningishzida in Sumerian, and the Naga Serpents of the Indus Valley.
All these Serpent based Cults came to exist in areas or Regions denoted specifically as designated Anunnaki areas of control and influence in the Sumerian Texts.

Yes, Happy Solstice...the true meaning being astronomical, before Christians hijacked it!

Correction: How The Christ Stole Solstice!

52 minutes ago, Nungali said:

This is even more embarrassing for you than what you said in the other thread about ancient building techniques !

 

and that was VERY embarrassing. 

 

But then again, its your reputation ..... I suppose you can do whatever you want with it .

Ah yes, you had thoroughly explained it all...just like how simply stacking 2 LEGOs together explains how to build anything in the universe!  Nothing more to see here, folks!

They do joint manipulations like chiropractors so it should be helpful.  Straightening the spine shouldn't be damaging, since it's moving it back into its proper position.  If you have subluxations or joint dislocations, then addressing them directly with bonesetting is best...although adding soft tissue massage also helps more in the long term.  Energy healing may as well too, but I would at least get your bones set.

BTW, your spine is pretty robust...and it's not nearly as fragile as some laymen seem to imagine.

1 hour ago, Taomeow said:

Ah, interesting!  So apparently the "red-faced" were "Adam," the indigenous population.  And we also get the Sumerians=Aryans of course (" Laurence Waddell (...) maintained that the Sumerian royal dynasty was blonde (Aryan) while the lower masses (or 'subject' people) dark black haired primitives.[31] )  I wonder where he got that, but then, he was the real-life prototype of Indiana Jones, and in all likelihood the inspiration for all later generations of Pan-Sumerians, including Sitchin and our very own Gendao.   His "Aryan Origin of the World's Civilization" was first published in 1917 and formulated Pan-Sumerianism asserting that many cultures and ancient civilizations, such as the Indus Valley Civilization, Minoan Crete, Phoenicia, and Dynastic Egypt, were the product of Aryan Sumerian colonists.

Except, I had never heard of these old researchers...or this text...yet somehow I came to the same conclusion independently a century later...  (And Sitchin wasn't harping about colonialists vs aborigines, either.)

*slow clap*

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"This man was called Adam, which in the Hebrew tongue signifies one that is red, because he was formed out of the red earth".

 

Sayce, acknowledging the aforementioned links believed that the "dark race" described in K. 3364 (line 18) was a dark reddish skinned aboriginal race of "primitive Babylonia" that were invaded by a white skinned Semitic race.  According to Sayce, the original "dark race" were Sumerians of the Turanid race, who "belonged to the dark-skinned division, though it is not necessary to suppose them to have been black as the Negro".  Henry Rawlinson supported Sayce's views and further asserted that the ancient Babylonians knew of two principle races, as found in their inscriptions: "the Adamu, or dark race and the Sarku, or light race".  The Sarku (or Sarcu) Sayce and Rawlinson maintained were the Semitic colonists who were white skinned.

Rawlinson believed that both the aboriginal "dark race" and light skinned Semitic colonists are found preserved in Genesis. 6:1–7 as the "sons of God" and the "daughters of man".  Sayce concluded by asserting that the Sarku modified Adam to denote their own "white Semitic population" after the dark red skinned Sumerian aborigines were conquered.

Oh boy, doesn't this metanarrative sound familiar???  SEMITIC (Anunnaki/Sumerian/Abrahamic/Jewish/Christian/"civilizing"/etc.) COLONISTS destroying the older ABORIGINES?

All we're missing is the Lyran/Pleiadian connection, now!  Who says I'm on the "false trail?"

^ Of course, biochipping = more of the Anunnaki Matrix control grid/technological singularity.  Along with GMO, 5G, vaccines, geoengineering chemtrails, etc, etc...  Their frequency signature modus operandi is always to control, own, exploit, and weaponize.  And if they can't do those to something...then destroy it.  Strike hard, live fast, and default on the resulting debts (usually with lawfare or warfare). 

Hmm, so if QE allows instantaneous communication across any distance...still not sure what the ramifications of that would be?

No, I meant that the Anunnaki created Christianity as one of their soft power tools for more trickle-down colonization.  YHWH (the main deity in the Bible) = Anu and is himself Anunnaki, not Jewish.  Even Abraham wasn't "Jewish," but Sumerian.

Yes, of course most ancient peoples revered the Sacred Feminine before the Anunnaki tooled Abraham into enforcing monotheism (which was really a ploy to cut out all male "sexual" competitors and the feminine A-SHE-rah half of the divine equation).  Again, classic Anunnaki move...and why their ascent to power was the watershed moment for the downfall of this planet.

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

Of course Gendao will know nothing of this as he does no research whatsoever ... just hunts copies and posts internet rubbish that agrees with his re formed views .

 

- now that I have dared to expose him (yet again ) , I guess he will go for me  now  ....... like he did to Earl Grey  . 

Nah, I actually sense that you are actually seeking the truth, while EG is seeking authority.  Hence, you have done lots of research and personally associated with the aborigines there to learn from and share.  As opposed to EG, who works to colonize outsiders and uses the only street cred a vagabond has (drifting around the world) to impress Americans...while using his knowledge of sh*tty 80s American pop culture to impress them.  JK EG...just toying with ya!

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

" Psychometric archaeology "   ?  

 

 " could a winged disk simply be an emblem for a flying disk AKA flying saucer "

 

yes -  discounting the Sun that every person of every place and every culture sees ' flying ' across the sky every day  it could  SIMPLY  be a  ' flying saucer '  instead  .

 

Or was it Sitchin's alleged "Nibiru?"

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Nibiru, the "Red Planet" with its 11 satellites was drawn into our own young solar system, 8.6 light-years away from Sirius, by the gravity from Neptune. It entered the solar system in retrograde, from an angle, came in from the south and headed towards another giant planet in our own solar system, Tiamat, located between today's Mars and Jupiter.

Earth, at this time, was not even created. One of Nibiru's satellites hit Tiamat and split it in half before the Red Planet left the solar system and continued its journey back into deep space.

However, Nibiru had now become a member of our solar system, but was on a much longer, highly elliptic orbit, and only returned to our immediate solar system every 3.600 years, give or take ~70 years.

Anyways, I am not the only one who drew the same conclusion...of a "prehistory" dominated by more conscientious Lyrans/Pleiadians...followed by a war...and then domination by the current Anunnaki ruling regime...and hence the insane asylum we're now in.

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After Earth had been seeded by the Founders and eventually the Vegans and the Lyrans continued where the Founders left off. The Pleiadians tell us more about the variety of creator gods and other alien races existing simultaneously on the planet, creating their own civilizations side by side on another CD I listened to.

They say that some of these were developed in Russia and even in the Arctic and Antarctica, which were then not cover with ice but had forests and lakes due to that the polar regions were located differently from now.

There are still remnants of these millions of years old civilizations to be found under the icecaps; both buildings and skeletons of giants and other, to us unfamiliar species. Some of the civilizations were run by both Lyrans, Vegans and Pleiadians (who in fact were a subgroup of the Lyrans).

Due to wars and misuse of technology, these early civilizations died out and are buried under water, ice and land, and creation to some extent had to start all over again.

 

At the time when the Neanderthals and homo erectus walked the Earth, our planet was still monitored by Lyrans, Pleiadians, and others, but apparently on a skeleton crew.

Eventually, as told in my previous paper, the Lyrans and the Pleiadians were run off the planet and the solar system as a direct consequence of an atomic war, which was won by the Ša.A.M.i. group.

This early part of Earth history is missing in Sitchin's writings, which I believe is due to that the Ša.A.M.i. and their subgroup, the Anunnaki, destroyed these records and changed history to their favor. They had no wish to tell mankind that they had run off their real creator gods with atomic bombs; they wanted to make us believe that the Anunnaki themselves were our creators.

Around this same time, the Lyrans and the Earth-Lyrans were working on the Living Library.

 

They knew that the Anunnaki had built their bases on the planet, and they just stayed away from them. Apparently, the Anunnaki had a bad reputation amongst the Lyrans.

However, the Lyrans were protective regarding the Living Library Project, and while working on the side, they probably kept an eye on the Anunnaki, they continued their project. The Anunnaki must have been well aware of the Lyran presence.

In the meantime, the Lyrans saw what was coming and decided to interfere with the process. They did not want homo erectus to be tampered with by the Anunnaki, as it interfered with their plans for the Living Library.

The Earth-Lyrans left Earth and eventually found a new home in the Pleiades.
A war broke out on Earth between the two species of creator gods; the Lyrans and the Anunnaki, a war which ended in a nuclear disaster, after the Anunnaki had used some of the hidden nuclear weapons to defeat the old owners of the planet.

After the destruction created by the atomic war, Earth now had new owners;

    the Anunnaki had just conquered a new world and expanded their Empire with new real estate.

But the Original Planners had not given up on Earth.

The Lyrans and later on, a renegade Pleiadian group, were determined to continue their Living Library experiment in the future and have since then monitored the situation, in wait for the time when we humans will be able to activate our DNA and evolve, and thus escape from their oppressors.

This time has now come...

And you can clearly feel the huge difference in the whole vibes of ancestral Lyran/Pleiadian aborigines vs Anunnaki/Christian colonialists today. 

I mean, it's totally laughable.  Anu/YHWH lays a massive guilt trip on Enki's hybrid slaves for being disobedient and "sinful" and thus needing his (holocaust animal sacrifice) salvation.  When his whole alien race was just a bunch of invasive "thug lyfe" marauders here to plunder the planet!

^ Great input and totally valid questions.  Of course, most aboriginal tribes have all suffered colonization already...so much of their oral histories have been deleted or corrupted.  Which again, was the intentional point of Christianity - and why it's absolutely disgusting that so many colonialists today still try to soft-peddle it like just an innocuous Santa Claus fairytale at worst... But, I digress.  Again, I am not presenting an airtight ship at all here, but just throwing a bare bones framework together to see what it might look like?

Confirmations may be scientific, or in the mystical tradition - otherwise inexplicable synchronicities that defy the odds.  Honestly, it will probably take psychic intuition and psychometric archaeology to really fill in the blanks and hear the true story.  And until I reach that skill level, I can only keep taking educated guesses...  Which I know is possible, because I've met a rare few with it.

But for example, you see the winged "sun" disk in ancient Sumerian-->Egyptian art all the time. 

Christian colonialist "historians" guessed it was a red sun, which makes no sense.  Some claim it is Mercury...  Or perhaps, could a winged disk simply be an emblem for a flying disk AKA flying saucer?

25 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

  @gendao

I wrote and published some sci-fi short stories back in the day, and have been working on a novel, like, forever, and before that I read tons, and I mean tons, in sheer weight, of sci-fi literature, including nearly all of the best of the genre (and only a tiny bit of its crap and only a bit of "fantasy," most of which I dislike, with some notable exceptions), and that's how I learned to construct and deconstruct plots that can accommodate the meaningful and believable functioning of an alien, future, past, or any other kind of imaginary world.  So believe me when I say that the plot you posted is amateurish and not by very talented amateurs either, so once again I admonish you to abandon your sources and try to go to the original sources and see if you can envision a better plot, without so many gaps, circular-logic confirmation biases, loose ends, stretches, sleight-of-hand slipping-in of the authors' pet peeves, and so on. 

Well yes, global aboriginal oral histories and petroglyphs ARE original sources.  What do you make of all their Pleiadian origin stories?

I mean, like I said, I am just sketching out a very rough, hypothetical plotline as a starting point for consideration...but what specifically do you see wrong with it?

And you forgot to add that Earl Grey enjoys LARPing as online mall security in order to feel more authority and higher up in the pecking order...to compensate for the immense lack of personal power that he feels in his own life.  If you ever want to pull his pin and watch his grenade blow...simply question his AUTHORITY (on anything)...  It matters not to him, because any and all questioning of his opinions are automatically reinterpreted as just 1 singular question - of him and his "authority."

Anyhow, this is VERY New Agey...but it's still an interesting narrative to consider because so many aboriginal histories do credit a Pleiadian origin.

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During earth's early history there were wars in space for ownership of this planet. Skirmishes took place and earth became place of duality. Certain creator gods who had the right to do whatever they wanted, because earth is a freewill zone, came in and took over.

When the skirmish occurred a certain group of entities fought in space and won the territory of earth. These new owners did not want the native earth species, the humans, to be informed of what took place. Uninformed, the species would be easier to control.

That is why Light is information and Darkness is lack of information. These entities beat out Light and earth became their territory.

These new owners who came here 300 thousand years ago, are the magnificent beings spoken of in your bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets and in text all over the world.

They came to earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band, whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power. They worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA - the two stranded double-helix DNA.

The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional, it was split apart, unplugged.

We, as Pleiadians, came back through time, into what would perhaps be called our past, we came back in order to share a frequency with you, a frequency that each one of you has agreed to carry on this planet in order to change the DNA of the rearranged human race. Earth is assisting in its own way the evolution of the universe. It is where the plan begins to blossom and what happens on earth is going to effect many, many worlds.

The loose storyline seems to be that Pleiadians starseeded, incarnated into, and/or mentored aborigines here well before the Younger Dryas Flood...and their vibe was a lot more natural, harmonious, peaceful, and spiritual than their next alien successors.  The Pleiadians were still nonnative, but not very invasive, so to speak.

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The Galactic Federation allowed the Pleiadians to enter into a incarnational cycle with humans on Earth. The places designated for them to do this was Bali, Hawaii, Samoa and India. Civilizations came and went on Earth with many wars, peaceful cycles and natural disasters, between 196,000 B.C. and 10 A.D. The Pleiadians stayed with humans on Earth until 10 A.D. trying to help develop various civilizations such as Lemuria, Maya, Inca and a civilization at Machu Picchu. They also were trying to guide humans toward a more spiritual path.

(Although, some of those civilizations have also been credited to the Sirians.)

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The Sirians helped to create the human race, and guided the early civilizations of this planet, including Atlantis, Lemuria, the Mayans, the Dogon tribe, and Egypt.

They were masters of crystal energies and healing, the reason that Atlantis was able to create the machines that powered their powerful machines.

Anyhow, as the Anunnaki ramped up their presence here, their GMO slaves bred like rabbits and eventually formed Sumeria by their Iraqi portal.  Their vibe was basically the opposite of their predecessors - of outcast, soldiers-of-fortune COLONIALISTS who recklessly sought and fought to exploit and OWN everything (land, natural resources, slaves, etc).  They came here to mine gold for geoengineering and GMOd slaves/sex dolls and hierarchical rule by force and control.  Their lives were basically giant dramas of war/orgies...as even referenced in the Old Testament.

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The Anunna and Nungal might have ended up on Earth, as a result of the battle against their queen Tiamat (see text of the Enuma Elish).  The ANUNNAKI are a group of warriors who expatriated to Earth because of the war.

And so this is the dominant behavior on this planet today...even down to GMO and geoengineering again, now...

Basically, the Anunnaki had good and bad cops, but were all just a giant sh*tshow.  Enlil was actually the wiser, more responsible one...but also a control freak.  Enki was a reckless, mad scientist who sought quick fixes, rather than follow the perfect pace of Nature. 

The Pleiadians were the better actors in this play, which is why the Anunnaki had to wipe out the memories and influence of them (and others)...

^ It's just a very speculative connecting of some dots, is all.  I've just started noticing how many ancient (particularly antediluvian) aboriginal creation myths (in oral traditions & petroglyphs) cite the Pleiades - from Turtle Island to Asia to "Australia." 

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And in seeking out the inspiration behind an Australian genesis of modern humans and the rise and fall of some very sophisticated technology, the Original Dreaming Stories and Keepers of the Old Ways stand united behind one non-Earthly standard bearer: the Pleiades.

Meanwhile, over in Las Vegas:

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The Cherokee lineage is from the Pleiadian Star System. According to this Keeper, the Pleiadian System is made of 9 major stars two of which are "hidden".

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The Hopi believe their ancestors came from the Pleiades, the place, or people they call Chuhukon, or, those who cling together, a reference it seems to that tightly grouped starry cluster, as it appears to the naked eye. Likewise, early Dakota legends speak of the Pleiades, or Tiyami, as the abode of the ancestors.

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The Anishnabe are a family of indigenous peoples who, historically, lived along the eastern coast of North America. Anishnabe is translated as "good person" or "one who came down from the sky."

Whereas Sumerian civilization seems to have ushered in a shift from Pleiadian to Anunnaki influence...

On 12/22/2019 at 12:02 AM, Taomeow said:

No, they are not, and the planetary associations came way later.  They are Seven!  The seven gods of the Pleiades, also interpreted by Sumerians as demons, though the word "demon" wasn't in circulation.  Some powerful entities that can harm because that's their nature and their mission.     

I had speculated just a week ago that perhaps the invasive exo-colonialists were all Anunnaki hybrid spawn....vs the aborigines they were hybridized with and replaced, whose starseed descent was simply/primarily Pleiadian.  So essentially, the Anunnaki are what seeded "civilization" and were the main "root of all human evil" on this planet... 

And of course, in true Anunnaki fashion...they invariably project upon and demonize all their competitors or victims in total fake news smear campaigns (whether it's Mother Earth, any non-Anunnaki, Canaanites, non-sheeple, Pleiadians, etc).

On 12/8/2019 at 2:55 PM, Taomeow said:

Agriculture makes it so.  Agriculture that throws off the fine balance that makes the land fertile, agriculture that destroys a few, then a few dozen, then a few hundred, then exponentially all the feedback loops between the land and its plants and animals and rivers and lakes, and starts rewriting the natural script which dictates absolute geophysical exemption of thermo periods from becoming arid.  Unless you interfere with the feedback loops. 

Agriculture (= deforestation) was the original sin.

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Agriculture is the direct driver for worldwide deforestation

Agriculture is estimated to be the direct driver for around 80% of deforestation worldwide. In Latin America, commercial agriculture is the main direct driver, responsible for 2/3 of all cut forests, while in Africa and tropical Asia commercial agriculture and subsistence agriculture both account for one third of deforestation. Mining, infrastructure and urban expansion are important but less prominent drivers worldwide.

Degradation of forest means a decrease in quality of forest, and is in over 70% of cases caused by (commercial) timber extraction and logging activities in Latin America and tropical and sub-tropical Asia.

On 8/21/2019 at 8:17 PM, Lois said:

One well-known Israeli figure stated on Russian television that the basic law of America is "everything can be sold and everything can be bought." It's true ?
 

US neocons blamed Saudi Arabian "terrorists" for 9II..."justifying" an ongoing $6 trillion Zionist war spreading "democracy" (b0mbs) all over the MidEast, EXCEPT FOR Saudi Arabia.  Whom we also sell the most weapons to...and happens to be a theocracy consistently ranking among the "worst of the worst" in Freedom House's annual survey of political and civil rights.

Nothing new though...from over a century ago:

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Behold, my friends, the spring is come; the earth has gladly received the embraces of the sun, and we shall soon see the results of their love! Every seed is awakened, and all animal life. It is through this mysterious power that we too have our being, and we therefore yield to our neighbors, even to our animal neighbors, the same right as ourselves to inhabit this vast land.

Yet hear me friends! we now have to deal with another people, small and feeble when our forefathers first met with them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough, they have a mind to till the soil, and the love of possesions is a disease in them. These people have made many rules that the rich may break but the poor may not! They even take tithes of the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule. They claim this mother of ours, the Earth, for their own use, and fence their neighbors away from her, and deface her with their buildings and their refuse. They compel her to produce out of season, and when sterile she is made to take medicine in order to produce again. All this is sacrilege.

This nation is like a spring freshet; it overruns its banks and destroys all who are in its path. We cannot dwell side by side. Only seven years ago we made a treaty by which we were assured that the buffalo country should be left to us forever. Now they threaten to take that from us also. My brothers, shall we submit? or shall we say to them: “First kill me, before you can take possession of my fatherland!” - Sitting Bull, 1877

Goooo Trump, keep MAGA!

11 hours ago, Nungali said:

They have been doing it for ages    and .... ummmm   .... ya know , still do  

or

http://www.rutahsa.com/incaarch.html

 

" Those protrusions on the blocks in question Shows 'bosses' / protrusions so a stone can be manipulated into place by leverage and slings as any rope, or framework would just slide up the block . Alternatively,  Thing is , if you put the rope around the block, underneath the block , when you try to put it in place  how are ya (you) gonna get the rope out from under the block when it IS in place ?   This problem was solved later in history by Masons with the 'masonic lewis' .  They used a lewis as in your diagram to be able to put the block in place from the top with no rope around the bottom, then the lewis can be removed AFTER the block is FINALLY in place, only leaving a small recess in the top of the block  that will be invisible later as its inside the wall .

 

The reason different cultures used the  protrusions on the block is that is the method they used as didnt use a lewis  (ie. ) when you only have the technology they did

 

The implications are rather astounding !    These (all the above) are the sort of things that 50 years ago stimulated me to  go  Cultural Anthropology at Uni  (it includes archaeology ) .

 

Oh yeah, and I spent years where you are now , it was fun      

 

and .....    check one of your hands out .    What do you notice ?

Ah, just throwing out whole videos or links as "proof"...when neither actually contain any?  Even that video is downrated and debunked in its own comments, lol!!!  Because neither you nor those flares even attempt to explain how these ancient masons could have moved stones weighing up to several hundred tons?  When modern cranes can only even lift 20???  They simply explain how you can work and fit 2 stones together, that's IT.

And you still don't explain how protrusions would help slip ropes out from underneath if they are not on ANY of the BOTTOMS of the stones, but only on SOME of the outer FACES.  So, if they had no bottom feet for ropes to slide back out...or holes for masonic lewises on top...then HOW did they lift them???

You then say you spent years where I am now...and yet you still have no real answer here, but just keep playing dodgeball with the megalithic elephants in the room. 

On 12/6/2019 at 5:06 PM, Nungali said:

The abso classic  debunk  in this subject are the ancient Egyptian  hieroglyphs  touted a while back all over the internet and sites that showed helicopter , UFO and tank   ..... people looked at it and where ' WOW!  Lookit that ! "  and writing all sorts of fantastical stuff about it .

 

I have busted a few of those here over the years . And in other places . One was a HUGE block, impossible to carve, yet there it was , with tiny people next to it ... of course, not much accompanied info ever was posted with it. It was tracked down to be a  small stone feature from somewhere else and the back ground and tiny people Photoshopped in.

 

Pic 1 . is also a big wall. People like walls, they have been making them for ages .

 

2. Is a mosaic joinery in stone to help with earthquake resistance.

 

3. Shows 'bosses' / protrusions so a stone can be manipulated into place by leverage and slings . Thing is if you put the rope around the block, underneath , when you put it in place m how ya gonna get the rope out ?  This problem was solved by Masons with the 'masonic lewis' .   The reason different cultures used it is that is how you do it, when you only have the technology they did . A bit like how some pottery jugs have handles on the side , in Mexico, Azerbaijan or  Ethiopia .

 

4.  One must assume that the H figure is supposed to show something significant . Why not use 'T' s ? There are heaps more T designs in things all over the world !

 

5. Some  decorative block carved out of a relatively soft rock . I realise the pop rant on this is that this stone is very hard , but , ummmmm ... they lied.

 

6.  Yes, thats a  big ornate gateway . It cracked .   Probably not from a UFO laser cannon .

 

7.  Then a series of  skull pictures (or just some funny hats ) from different cultures.   A type of skull binding that has been done in different cultures.  One could ask THOSE people that did it why they did it .   or we can make up our own reasons .

Oh wow, you & Earl Grey really do got nothing, huh?  So, you started off by generically "debunking" 2 strawmen (Abydos pics & some unnamed fake pic)...and then it's further downhill from there...  I just strung together some pics because if I went into detail on each one, it would fill a book.

1)  This is from a well-known (unPhotoshopped) wall at Sacsayhuamán in Cusco, Peru.  And no, people haven't simply been making walls with absolutely precision-fit stones weighing up to several hundred tons apiece continuously for ages, FFS.  Some did ages ago...but not since.

2)  And HOW exactly do you cut and perfectly-fit such heavy, irregular interlocking stones that radiate out in multiple rings? 

3)  Uh, a masonic lewis fits into a SLOT, and is not a knob.  Your vague word salad of masonry terms still fails to give any coherent explanation here.  But even if it did, you don't explain how to "simply" lift a 100-ton stone with "ropes?"  You do realize that your average modern crane can only lift a MAX of 20 tons???  Nice try, not.

On 12/6/2019 at 5:14 PM, Nungali said:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/tedx-issues-warning-about-graham-hancock-calling-his-speech-outdated-and-counterfactual

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-there-wasnt-an-advanced-civilization-12-000-years-ago/

 

http://www.badarchaeology.com/lost-civilisations/graham-hancocks-lost-civilisation/

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/09/03/what-archaeologists-really-think-about-ancient-aliens-lost-colonies-and-fingerprints-of-the-gods/#34ba2c77ab0c

Lol, more fake news from skeptics "debunking" more strawmen...while avoiding providing any actual examination and alternative explanation for the real evidence at hand - like the megalithic stonework - that often show eery similarities around the world, while sometimes being associated with conehead skulls.

For example, note the ancient recessed stone doorways:

(Hayu Marca, Peru)

(Yazilikaya, Anatolia)

(Naupa Huaca, Peru)

(Puma Punku, Bolivia)

(Antalya, Turkey)

On 12/10/2019 at 12:22 AM, Walker said:

Enough with the anti-Christian bigotry!

 

There are indeed monsters within Christianity. With your psychological make-up, if power is ever placed in your hands, you will become terrifyingly like them!

 

Read what Taomeow just said to you 100 times until it seeps into your bones!

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Christian prophet: Trump’s critics are so full of demons ‘they’re not even human anymore’

During an appearance on the The MC Files webcast, pro-Trump conspiracy theorist and and Christian “prophet,” Mark Taylor, claimed that people who are opposed to President Trump are possessed by demons.

Speaking to host Chris McDonald, Taylor said that people will be “astonished” when they find out what’s driving the impeachment effort against Trump.

“The demons are manifesting in them,” Taylor said in a video clip flagged by Right Wing Watch. “This is what’s happening, and this is why they are acting the way they are. They are being choked out, so to speak. It’s almost like the oxygen to these spirits is being cut off, so they’re manifesting in any way possible, trying to survive.”

According to Taylor, some of “these people” aren’t “even hardly human.”

“You’re going to find out some of these people are to the point where they’re not even human anymore, they have been handed over to themselves, they’ve been handed over to the enemy to the point [where they’re] just not even human.”

 

Pardon me, is that you, Mark?

In all seriousness though, I am not cherry-picking rogue Christians...but CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE ITSELF.  The rogue ones are actually the more "evolved" ones...while the Fundys are the most f'd up.  Which has been proven ad infinitum in just this thread alone. 

That being said, that alleged Jesuit Oath does sound like sensationalized fake news...and also while Jesuit history is in fact a lot of Catholic colonialism and numerous suspected clandestine ops...I still don't see mass slaughters as ordained in that version (correct me if I'm wrong).

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The objectives of the reductions were to organize and exploit the labour of the native indigenous inhabitants while also imparting Christianity and European culture.

But even without any extreme "conspiracy theories," their conventional history and mission is still in lockstep with the Enlilite/Christian colonialist theft/destruction of Mother Earth...and diametrically opposed to aborigines descended from Pleiadians (as opposed to just the Anunnaki).

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Cherokee legends teach that Native Americans originated long ago in the Pleiades, and assert that indigenous people are on Earth as “star seeds,” with a mission of bringing light and knowledge. The Navajo call the Pleiadian star cluster the “Sparkling Suns,” and the Iroquois petition the constellation for happiness. The Lakota/Dakota people say their ancestors are from the Pleiades.

On 12/6/2019 at 2:12 PM, SirPalomides said:

Super edgy take, bro. Take it to a Christian forum, they'll be really impressed.

BTW, I actually tried searching for a few Christian forums to spread the gospell...

It was an exercise in futility.  The top ones are all the definitions of cults - extremely insular, restrictive, intolerant, heavily modded with thought police, and closed to outsider input.

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The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members.

In Worthy Christian Forums, you basically get blocked from posting once you get labeled a nonbeliever.

This is in stark contrast to non-Christian forums like this one, or Buddhist forums, which generally have generic TOS and welcome all traditions, if anything...

This is not cool.  While many spiritualities are playing nice and exercising tolerance, Christianity is nonreciprocally treating all others like the Plague.  It's like everyone else is playing by the rules..while Christians are flagrantly suckerpunching with low blows.

On 12/11/2019 at 8:44 AM, Earl Grey said:

Mixing currents leads to qi deviation. No medical professional, even some TCM doctors, can help if you do this.

 

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First, I got sick as from cold, I thought I would tough it out ( yep, few hours later all gone)

Then next day I had extreme emotional anger reaction to a rather weird to me topic ( lasted few hours as well)

 

When I figured out I am in the middle of the storm, I tried to meditate, but I "plugged in" to someone's else stream: I was laying in the water on some tropical beach in Viet Nam ( I have never been to Viet Nam). It was sunny and I felt water on my body and I had zero awareness of me as qicat. Then I saw a dead body of a soldier near me. It was floating. It touched me and I was terrified. I was wearing Viet Nam army clothing and I was dead. So were many many people on the big boat which was at the lagoon. Soldiers ( americans?) were dropping bodies of my people in the water and corpses were floating. And the sun was so bright and the sky was so blue and the azur waters were so peaceful... ( total time, around 20 min)

Sounds like she got some great physical and emotional detoxing, and very possibly a past-life regression?  These are all standard healing symptoms, that many people actually pay good money to achieve.  Not sure why she concluded they were "qi deviations" simply because she didn't specifically intend for them?

On 12/12/2019 at 11:07 AM, Earl Grey said:

Second of all, you've got some thin skin to think that everything that's been said is a personal attack. God forbid you see the twisted little ball of your insecurities and anger inside you come out in your practice and think that it's a confirmation of power you believe you have.

Last of all, the one who has been rude is you, because of your certainty in your self-importance, when all that's been done is people warning you of your beginner's mistake that is a waste of time at best, and dangerous and harmful at worst. 

It's much easier to look at someone who has skill and accomplishment and see them as having nothing of value because they unnerve you and challenge your paradigm.

Actually, you're pretty thin-skinned to think everything is an insult, which means you really don't know what it means to commit to these arts and this path--Taoists are known to laugh at themselves and each other, and know when there is an absence of respect, which in this case, is a sign of your lack of skill or power, and this is what we see as "peacocking" and chest-beating. All bark, no bite; you talk about no manners but demonstrate you've got none yourself, then say there's no skill but have nothing to speak of as an admitted novice. Sure. 

Speaking from personal experience being arrogant yourself, too? 

Straw man and putting words in his mouth--this is probably why you get angry: you imagine people saying things that they aren't saying. You really need to stop doing that for your own sake.

For a guy apologizing for potentially being rude or disrespectful in the first page of this thread, it's a good thing you did because you've consistently shown rudeness and been called out on it too since then, and refuse to acknowledge it.

Based on what freeform wrote, he was trying to be helpful with a more amicable and relatable example, but you choose to take something that's sweet and turn it into shit--normally, Taoists do it the other way around. It's like you want to try Taoist methods, but failed to have read the Tao Te Ching or other texts (which I even quoted above!). 

Cultural sensitivity and self-awareness don't seem to be your strengths. 

Get over yourself, bro. 

LMAO..oh mirror, mirror, on the wall...do tell yourself some more!

OK, now let's cut all the irrelevant personality disorder conflict BS, try some adulting for a change, and actually get to the meat & bones here.

From my vague suspicions thus far...the biggest risks are likely incurred from forcing (caused by doing something before a pathway is ready or misdirecting it down the wrong one) and possibly overusing/depleting qi (like perhaps by fajin and fajing or using it on inanimate objects, etc)?  I say this because a number of qigong healers and IMA masters have died relatively young, not to mention all the cancer and other ills suffered by some MoPai adepts.  I believe these 2 lines of inquiry could bear much more research...and helpful spectrums could eventually be defined for both of them. 

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I have finally figured this out after a couple of years
experimenting- [see my Videos/Self-inflicted Dim Mak photos]

 

Using Chi for showcasing your skills.... will drain you and eat at your prostate- among other things

 

**Qi is for organic energy exchange**

Using it for martial arts is contact with another living creature = so it is an energy exchange

 

 

Recall I said how to heal [another person] with Qi-
never use your own personal Qi because it will drain you

 

You must harvest the universal/ambient life force instead

Magick is a Shen Gong

 

 

Using Qi to knock down items off a shelf, making fire, etc... is NOT using Qi-
....even though you feel the Qi radiating from the hands, eyes, etc

 

It is NOT Qi

It is Jing that you are using

If you think you are using YinQi... you are ALSO mistaken

 

Jing is Yin

Qi is Yin/Yang

Shen is Yang

 

Examples:

'Master Jiang' and John Chang are both deceased...

They both thought they were using YangQi to set fire to objects,....

Hot Yang is depleted Jing - squeeze the floor - you feel heat... WHERE?

MoPai also has a rule to be celibate for 3 days before resuming practice after orgasm,... because they stress their Jing reserves [for level testing, among other things]

Recall Jim McMillan's MoPai's level test video... John had him test right after they ate dinner/Jing refuel

(Note: I do not believe John Chang is dead...although does reportedly have cancer now.)

Although, both of these behaviors often seem to be caused by the ego getting in front of the Spirit...putting the cart before the horse, so to speak.  As is evident from some of the resident, chest-beating ragelords here...

On a practical level, the key to neixyz arts is really inner awareness...like Western "self"-gnosis...but less on just an airy, mental plane - but more on a fully-grounded, full spectrum, holistic bioenergeticsomatic level...which goes to the very heart of Daoism.  Listen to this champion running expert (Helen Hall) as she talks about how important it is to develop inner awareness to listen inside and LET...rather than rely on external instruction to just blindly DO.

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26:40 - It's the doing, instead of the letting, that messes with the timing.
30:27 - It's deep, deep internal knowledge rather than external.
With external guidance, the guidance from outside is not the problem

It's telling somebody to do something
Rather than asking that person to let something happen, or feel for something happening.

38:39 - The disconnect from the feet to the ground, we've become disconnected there.
We've become disconnected from the sensory guidelines because of the tech.

Woodrum means wake up joints to wake up muscles.  Joints act, muscles react.

Now, THIS natural "aboriginal" approach would also quintessentially be like Daoist neirunning. 

And this was really synchronous because just yesterday, I did a little barefoot walking on a rough stretch of tough grass at a hiking park with little traffic...that had a lot of pokey stalks.  And after a short while, I realized that it was much better to sense and feel the ground with my feet AS I progressively and selectively lowered my full weight on each step.  It was then that I realized how dumbly I had walked before with either soft shoes on or on smoothly-paved sidewalks and soft turf lawns.  In my normal mode, I was just blindly punching my feet on the ground with every step, with absolutely zero sensing or regard for the ground.  This was because my feet were totally encased in the omnipresent cushiness of colonial civilization - which is what also made them weak, soft, and unstimulated.  After just the brief barefoot walk on unmanicured grass though, my feet felt like they just had a natural reflexology session - hours and even a day later!

Anyways, I suspect the risk is ultimately not so much from mixing mashups, but probably already inherent in some of the individual methods themselves.  Although, I can also see why some traditions instruct one not to mix with other practices that work from flowing energy in the opposite direction.  I'm certainly not saying every method is compatible, either.  However again, forcing and overusing energy are probably the bigger concerns, regardless of mixing or sticking to singular paths.

1 hour ago, Taomeow said:

http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

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I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.

Everything on this page merely confirms all of my earlier posts, huh?

Christianity is literally some psychopathic, sicko, "horror show" meme warfare that lobotomized the "feminine right" side of its followers brains to cockblock them from 3D spiritual thought...and tool them into overwriting all the TRUE HISTORY of the planet, while terraforming it for their Anunnaki puppetmasters.  Like, I'm seriously not exaggerating AT ALL with some "super edgy take"...but just literally observing how the emperor is butt nekkid!  I can't even make this REAL shyt up...it IRL makes Halloween look like Christmas!

And of course all the "evolved" Christians namedropped on this page PREDICTABLY FIT MY MOLD and merely cling to that identity out of cultural loyalty...despite only believing in a few select needles in its haystack while borrowing heavily from other "heretical" traditions for the actual meat on their bones...  But continually whitewashing, apologizing for, and soft-pedaling this weaponized, BDSM tribal cult is extremely cowardly and doing a huge disservice to all of its victims - past, present, and future (including this entire native planet).

Colonization of this planet started with spiritual colonization...

So, decolonization of this planet must also start with spiritual decolonization!!!

21 hours ago, Jeff said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

Just like I said, all "evolved" "Christians," predictably and WITHOUT EXCEPTION...ignore the entire first HALF of the Bible, and supplant it with cherry-picked verses and apocryphal books not even officially in the Bible...as well as with other more "evolved" spiritual traditions (generally Eastern, New Age, and/or aboriginal "shamanic") - that the first half of the monopolizing Bible all expressly forbid by punishment of death as fierce competition in its spiritual marketplace.  I have yet to find ONE exception to this type of apologetic Christian/New Age Pagan-in-denial.

48 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

Super edgy take, bro. Take it to a Christian forum, they'll be really impressed.

Might not be a bad idea...why only preach to the choir here?  Got any idea what the best or most popular mainstream ones are?