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Okay, I'll go (SeanD raises his hand and steps into the circle of loving Taobums, who all return his big toothy grin with smiles of encouragement; soft guitar music is being played and this, of course, is taking place around a fire at some old farmhouse that was converted into an ashram in the 70's and is now a summer camp where thirty/forty somethings come to have touchy feely workshops and look at eachothers butt during the yoga workshop)

1. Pat: Issue: Personality clash/difference in beliefs

Pat, you are a big hearted guy who has a gift for sharing, perhaps do to your Irish (Just guessing) heritage. You have shown me what a reactive noodle head I can be. I'll keep that lesson.

2. Yoda: Issue: Huge personality clash/Starwars character envy

Yoda, you took Yoda as your screen indentity. This deeply offended me because I wanted to be Yoda and no one can be Yoda but you now because you got him first. Your good quality is that you are quick on the draw and got a good screen identity that is very cool. I'm over it now and just want to be friends.

Hey, I just got a pretty sincere PM from Pat,

Let's se if we can clear the air before bed here. Here's what I wrote back:

Pat, I think we have both over reacted. Let's stop. I will leave you be and the whole thing is regretable. We are better than this BS, Both of us. And I think once the testonsterone is out of our blood streams we could actually have a civil discussion without the retoric on both sides.

I'm an imperfect man, but I'm not an evil person. I do see peoples points, but I also like to challenge, I think it's healthy. Let's find a better way. I will be less abrasive and stop assuming and perhaps you can meet me half way.

What do you say? Maybe we could really surprise people and do something really funny to blow peoples mind's a bit and clear the air. I can start calling David a gerk and you can say you've signed up for his course Now that would throw people for a loop, ay.

Anyway, Your point about the Tao being from the heart and available to everyone of us is the one thing I definitly agree with here. David is a good man.

I'm with Leidee. I wish SeanO would either lock this thread or move it to the pit.

That would be fine. Really for my part I'm done with it. The whole thing is a waste of space, my part included. Just stupid pride on all sides.

Pat, spyrolex. Obviously we have strong differences. I don't think were are going to get anywhere with this and we just need to zip it and move on for the sake of the board

Sincerely, I do apologize for the sarcastic insults. It would have been much much better for all of to just let it go in the first place. We've all got bigger fish to fry here. Perhaps it would be better if none of us talks to each other as derek suggests.

Peace guys. Let's let sleeping dogs lie. Maybe in a few days we can just laugh at what a bunch og idiots we are

Time for a long meditation and a bath followed by a nice cigar. I still have 12 days of bachilorhood and need to make better use of my time. I'm going to take those twelve days to rest from the forum and give you guys your day.

Mind posting this on here (so I dont have to register for another board! I thought I had an account on your board anyways? long time since i accessed it and dont recall the username...)

Hey Grand T, Just reregister if you like.

Trunk, Nice idea. Something for the future I'm sure.

You know after thinking about this, It's clear that Pat really knows how to push my buttons as well. His insults about my teacher from the beginning have really gotten the best of me, in the sense that I would like nothing more than to see him embarressed. Stupid I know.

Pat, you don't just insult me, but the 20 or so members of the foundation forum who will be training with David in Asia and Denmark this Summer, all of whom, or at least most, found David through my posts on this forum. I guess my point is they deserve better than your hate filled BS. Your insults also reach further to all of David's students and teachers, hundreds if not more. Your comments are ignorent and abusive.

You also insult David and his teachers who you know nothing about. Yes, my sarcastic humor is sometimes out of line, but your crap and this challenge to a dual are truly sick and I think you are sick person and dislike you as much or more as you do me.

I'm making a break here with the insults and will ignor your offensive, dumb ideas and continue to present David's work, letting it speak for itself and the truth of the matter be expressed by the many who will go and have their hopes and dreams confirmed as I have.

I just visited some of my very first posts on the topic and my posts only confirm this pattern. There were attacks and rude silly remarks from the begining and the people who have been drawn to David have been interested from the begining.

At some point I lost patience with you and I should know better.

Link to Essay

This is an essay on the authentic sexual cultivation methods practiced by the immortal sages of ancient China. Many people drawn to cultivation and Taoist sexual arts will be surprised to learn the depth and complexity of these practices is actually NOT addressed in most of the popular literature and teachings on the subject. Enjoy.

Link to Essay Number two

This is second essay, also about sexual cultivation. This essay focuses on questions raised by the first essay above.

Warm Regards, Sean

Link to Essay

Of all the essays writen by David in the past year. This one is by far one very best. I have already received about ten emails with comments, questions and praise regarding it's contents, and it was just posted earlier today.

Anybody here is welcome to join in the discussion there.

Warm regards, Sean

I'm single for two weeks. The wife and kid are in FL on Vacation. Let's just say I manage my time well Don't ask don't tell. He he

You're on the net as much as anyone here. You just spent an hour coming up with some lam whitty come back and your telling me to get a life.

A shit you're right Buy guys. It's been fun.

Okay. This one I can't resist: even for this EFT might prove the perfect tool to help people relax and really enjoy the party... or just happily get off the scene because they are simply not interested

Neal's power knows no limit when it comes to bringing people together with love, and I'm not talking about some hippy, flower love; I'm talking about hot, juicy, wet, freaky love baby.

I wish you two would just cut it out, nobody wants to keep reading this shit.

Actually this post has something like 4,000 views. The reptilian brain needs porn. Which is basically what this thread is. If you can't beat them join them... sometimes the best advice.

Wise up you stupid fool. I have been and remain, a practicioner of arts you do not seem to be aware of or respect. I demand that you do not cast aspersions on my character. If you continue to do so as you did in the quote above, then you should expect me to make an effort to teach you how highly I do hold my own honor, integrity and skills.

And I in turn will show you my sweet and shocking skills... of fart-jitzu. My ass is like qi canon. One belch from my harry backside and you will looking for your glasses, dentures and your hair piece for the next millenium.

Don't be Jealous of my sweet sexy body baby:

Don't cha wish your gilfriend was hot like me? Don't cha?

Don't cha? Fun like me, raw like me, a freak like me? Don't cha?

whoever hasn't heard of EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) and the like yet, attention please:

On the flip side... we could have another sexy party. Sweet, hot, sweaty sex party.

Sex party whoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of assemmetry there.

You like?

OMG this thread gets weirder and weirder...

Weird can be so good or bad if you're naughty.

seanD,

 

where in the foundation forum is this post?

Here

What's ironic is that you seem to have no problem posting private messages, sharing personal stories involving other people, etc. after flipping your lid over someone posting pretty much abstract information about a private teaching.

There's no irony, all is fair in love and war. You should know that by now sweet heart. Any way, you know how I feel aboout you. You're so hot, cute and sweet, who could resist your charms? Will never, ever, wever, post a PM again if that means I more noble in your sweet big eyes.

Actual image of SeanD

This is just too crazy.

Sean,

Sean,

Sean,

Is this what you want?

I guess we can keep it going if you really want to, I'm not sure what the point would be and can't imagine what's driving you in your obession, but just the same, feel free to spend your time however you like. Perhaps your 'ignor' brain cells have malfunctioned? I'm not really sure what your problem is to be honest. You keep posting to me about your outrage and I keep telling you that there is no point. I guess this will probably never end. Since it seems to be you doing all the work to confront me, I will continue to respeond as time allows until you have exhausted your shame I suppose.

Both books are fine.

If you really cared about me, and please do spare me your internet compassion, you would have respected my position and feeling about your behavior toward me which I find equally rude and offensive even if you continue to suggest that I somehow don't get it and you are just condesending to me out of pity.

You say you care about me, well I don't share the feeling. When are you going to get that?

When you are an achieved boddhisattva then you can go around condesending to people with imaginations of compassionate feelings. But, until that time fix yourself first and stop making this about you you you with comments like, "I know I'm a rude person, but you are more rude than me and therefore I pass judgements about you for your own good." My relationship with David is my business not yours.

Listen, I'm a pretty stubborn goat; seven years of marriage and having kids will do that to a person. I'm a regular person not a saint. Your sentiments are misguided and offensive and childish. Anyone who shows the level of interest in my personal behavior that you have is a bit off balance in my book.

There's really nothing else I can say.

You sure already know that I allow myself the freedom to sometimes be silly on purpose in order to get an idea across. I am honestly curious what David will think of it. Not that we have to start all this deleting of messages all over again...

Thanks for understanding. David can't really defend his words on the Taobums. Plus people would get a clearer picture and have questions answered more skillfully from David himself who has asked his master Shifu Wang Liping to weigh in as well and make sure he is giving the correct advice... from a master who has achieved the abilities we all want to know about.

Cheers, Sean

And this is no sharing of information he shouldn't?

Don't be silly, on the contrary this is probably an exception. I don't know what David will say, but I'm all for it.

This should be interesting

It's not that I wish to interfer in anything, but I would have to agree with this much, for whatever it's worth.

I am not a master, for sure, and probably know less than many members here, but I think it is common sense

that a student's timely progress depends on his/her being whole-heartedly concentrated on the lesson at hand;

and not being bothered with or about things way above his head. A good master would only encourage that

kind of concentration, I should think; and entirely avoid distracting him with esoterica that is way beyond his

ability or degree of achievement. Orderly progress is gradual and follows a well-defined path, one step at a

time. Skipping steps in an effort to leap ahead will only lead to misfortune, in the end, I feel.

This is pretty close to what I'm saying, but not really the 'whole' issue, which has far more to do with the temptation for people to practice something that would only hurt and hinder their progress. Once a student has progressed to a certain level, many things are revealed, but so is the correct understanding of how to progress without stunting your development. Certain practices which are totally authentic, if done at the wrong time in the student's development, can actually cause so much damage that the student loses the ability to cultivate what they wer trying to in the first place, sometime permently.

This has huge karmic implications. It's also why the attitude that everything should just be free and out in the open is dangerous and foolish. This will be always misunderstood by people who lack experience and understanding. This is very common in the public eye to see people screaming about 'black magick and money scams.' Even if we look at history, this is practically par for the course. What people don't understand is that this is the test of the divine; the masters don't create this invisible wall it's just there, totally independent of anyone's will. If people want to learn cultivation they need to risk everything. This goes for all traditions and all spiritual practices if the goal is really enlightenment. If you think seeing the face of God, or Dao is going to happen whith you still holding on to doubts and fears and that you can just test the waters and see if the temperture suits your comfort level, you might as well give up now.

There are a few interested in David's work, I would guess, who look very carefully at how well I'm received here as a measure of whether or not they should take David's course. This is a classic blunder that happens in spiritual groups of every nation and variety. It's like people at Sunday mass, or temple ignoring the message of the Rabbi or priest and paying attention to the crying babies and what people are wearing and who is dating the preachers son It has nothing to do with the opportunity at hand and they miss the blessing as well.

There is no logical connection between the first sentence and the second. Of course I'm interested in David's teachings. And again, why should I be ashamed of that? But me being interested doesn't mean I have to agree with everything you or he says (or, frankly, even by nice to you or him).

 

I have, publicly and privately, tried to get you to be less angry and adolescent and to have a mature dialogue with you. And I may continue to try. I'm not ashamed of that either, I don't think it's hypocritical and if you're offended by it . . . well, I guess that's just another irrational thing you have to be angry about.

 

Regarding the second sentence in the quote above, any honest reading of your posts and mine over the last few months would show that you are demonstrably ruder, nastier, vindictive, childish, etc. by MANY MANY TIMES than I am. Like everyone else I get snippy.

You have answered your own question here. You are far too concerned about me and my behavior. It's silly. Why would you care so much, it pretentous; you don't even know me.

Of course there is a logical connection. You're trying to judge whether or not David's teaching is valid based on one of his student's behavior; as you keep insisting over and over again. David has hundreds of practicing students. Don't you see how nonsensical this is. This would be like me saying, "one of Michael Winn's students called me a gerk, so I now will make it my personal mission to hold that student accountable because 'I' need to see if Michael's student meets my standards of politness before I decide to learn from Michael."

I have just reacted to this incorrect approach with a bit of sarcasm from the beginning, which you then interpret as hatred and anger. It's you own feelings that are being reflected, not mine. I just think you are silly.

I'd be glad to share that coffee now, but if you think I'm flying to New York just so David and his masters can prove the efficacy of their teaching to you, you are sadly mistaken.

Be well, S