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Well, from the point of view of even an outside observer, David has acomplished all the required skills and abilities that characterize the level four. Yes, they are the same, different methods, but the net result is the same, granting all of the same abilities and holding the same meaning and level of immortality, whether level one, two or four. Allen, I don't know how you are drawing these conclusions or who is feeding you this information; all I can say is they are mistaken. You're free to jump to whatever conclusions you feel you need to. As for the book, it's a door to other possibilities that will create a solid base for students to go further in real Zhen Fa; yes a teacher is required for most students.

The foundation training is a Long Men Pai training that goes up to level 1 and 2a (actually well beyond), but is also a yang shen dao and jin dan dao practice; a complete method to liberation in and of itself. After that students can train in the Lei Shan Dao to reach level four one on one with David, has to be Tian Ming, destiny. One of the first questions I asked David after he reached level four was if he intends to train students to reach level four. He told me that he is commited to training students to this level. A few of his students have passed the level 2a. Don't misunderstand me and think that this means it's easy, it's not easy to become an immortal.

Actually David is still a student of John Chang and they do keep in touch. John Chang will be in China to meet with David and witness/assist his training as he completes the level five. John Chang supports David and they have always maintained their friendship. I didn't meet any rich people at David's seminars? I'm a school teacher with a family to support and I managed it without to much difficulty? If you really want to learn these things, the only thing standing in the way is you. Most of John Chang's students who were successful in level one and two spent thousands in flights to Java, hotel bills and other expenses, often having to cover living expenses while waiting months or weeks to be tested or taught. Some waited years, decades before they learnt the basics. First lesson, aspiring immortals know how to overcome obstacles and get stuff done.

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He has written four books, his latest was published by Inner traditions. You'll find it under his real name Kostas Dervenise. EDIT: Correction - 'Dervenis'

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Totally different. First of all, clinically dead here means no pulse, no breath... for three days. Most so called out of body experiences are just lucid dreams; very draining and dispurse a lot of Jing. Some people can move their Hun, but this is still completely different. To truly move the Shen takes years if not decades of training. There are also tests to see if you can really move the Shen: moving a small object with the Shen, not qi, and moving an object through a solid wall with the Shen. This ensures that the student can move his/her Shen and then safely back.

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