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I just consulted the IC in here:

 

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/free_I_Ching_reading/indexF.html

 

I selected the default translation (Hilary Barret's) and the answer was this:

 

1. Primary Hexagram: Hexagram 12: Blocked

 

 

Key Questions

 

What work can you do when nothing is working?

Who are you when no-one is noticing?

 

Oracle:

 

Blocking it, non-people.

Noble ones constancy bears no fruit.

Great goes, small comes.

 

 

2. Related Hexagram: Hexagram 16, Enthusiasm

 

 

Key Questions

 

What do you imagine?

What inspires you?

How can you use your enthusiasm constructively?

 

 

Oracle:

 

Enthusiasm.

Fruitful to set up feudal lords and mobilize the armies.

 

 

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Unfortunately when it comes to IC readings I am a total noob. Any ideas of what all of this means?

 

 

Ah! and by the way: the question was about overseas holiday next October (nothing long, just a week).

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Hello DC,

With this particular reading, check your gut for any connection between your question and the reading itself - a different translation may also give you a different angle to look at the question (I like the Wilhelm/Baynes) - since this is pure intuition, the phrasing sometimes acts as a trigger for your answer - also, check the changing lines for additional info, this is left out on the clarity site when looking at the Barrett translation - primary hexagram in this reading seems to imply rethinking things, although this is just a snapshot of the current conditions, you may want to recheck later as you get closer to the deadline for getting a ticket, things are constantly in flux.

Cheers,

R

Interesting, I have a friend who masturbates a lot (like several times a day), who has also suffered from entity attacks and encounters at night. Hmmm...

 

And I also wonder if drug usage makes one more vulnerable too (this person smokes pot as well)?

 

Anyone tried using Joel Signeur's symbolic entity repellant (Fig 5) before?

Hey Vortex,

Interesting that you mention this, Franz Bardon writes in Initiation into Hermetics that this whole process creates thoughtforms called larvae, which are created involuntarily by most people during times of extreme emotional excitement. There is a natural cycle of birth and death with these larvae in the mental sphere, but if these energy manifestations are given more energy by repeated returning to the same source of excitement over time, they will condense to a point where they develop their own will for self-preservation. His specific term for larvae created during repeated fantasies is "schema."

Years ago, I had a lady friend that was also visited by a classic incubus one night and called me one morning in hysterics crying about the event. She was unaware of these things and badly frightened. She told me she was awakened that night by what looked like a small man with large "greedy" eyes, which then jumped on her chest and made it hard for her to breathe. Interesting to note that this young lady had also been chronically indulging in masterbation from a young age (I believe from the age of 10), watching porn, etc. It seems in these cases that the initial development of some of these entities is within us, but then after a certain point they take up a life of their own.

I keep Joel's recommended symbols on my walls. All has been quiet, although I had a girlfriend recently that was fairly sensitive and occaisionally would hear stuff moving around at night. Interesting that this only happened when she was staying with me. For the most part, I heard nothing, although on one occaision she woke me up and I did hear something dragging across the floor in the next room, which was a first for me. I got up, went into the room, did an LBRP, and promptly went back to sleep. This seemed to quiet things down and she heard nothing further. This all happened despite having the symbols on the wall. He does state that these symbols are for souls that need to ascend, which the symbols help facilitate. So in this case, if there was something external, maybe the symbol didn't work because the entity was not human. In the end, I don't know.

Great background reading for general protectice procedures is Robert Bruce's site, www.astraldynamics.com, he is a treasure trove of info.

Cheers,

R

The China Study is utter rubbish and has been extensively de-bunked as an exercise in extreme confirmation bias.

 

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/the-china-study-vs-the-china-study/

 

lack of exercise-how do you think people will feel like exercising when they are metabolically damaged,endocrine system unbalanced and 40 lbs overweight?proper food-metabolic recovery-then exercise

 

plant enzymes are for the metabolic functions of the plant and have absolutely nothing to do with human digestion except in rare instances like papaya and pineapple

That's an interesting link,but I would caution about throwing the baby out with the bathwater - Eades goes off on how it's mainly an "observational" study, but if you read it there is plenty of experimental work that make it compelling if you read the book - after Eades also fires off on the strain of rats, I'd still say there is useful information to be had - keep in mind most pharm companies and universities use these rats as well - of course, nothing is ideal, including this study, but you can throw out Campbell's work and you are still faced with data aplenty pointing to potential benefits for most people with more of a plant-based diet - I would agree that if a person is bedridden and can't exercise, recovery is crucial, but otherwise I believe there needs to be an exercise stimulus to go along with an improved diet, the body adapts to changes in the different feedback loops.

Cheers,

R

I just wanted to add a couple of links of interest here:

While Supersize Me and Food, Inc. are great summaries of the current problems, another great video on hulu is The Future of Food - although it's a bit dated, it is thought-provoking, getting you to think about where you get your food:

This book is another classic, documenting a lot of the problems we see more publicized today - back in the 1930's the author observed what happens in different cultures across the globe when they switch out of their native diets and adopt more refined Westernized ones:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

In the attached nutritional review of dried fruits, check out Fig.4 - it's now a standard lab practice to lower antioxidant activity in the plasma by having a subject drink a can of Sprite, this effect lasts for 4 hours. Think about those people that drink several sugary sodas every day, on top of a fast food diet . . .

On the other hand,if you want to improve your diet, ramp up your fruit and veggie intake -the data showing the power of fruits like blueberries and strawberries to help reverse age-related changes (such as in the nervous system) is pretty compelling. I've attached a 1999 review from a high-profile neuroscience journal for your perusal.

Although I'm in no way a vegetarian (I still enjoy dead animal now and then), I find equally compelling the power of vegetarian diets to lower overall probability for chronic diseases we see today that are overloading our healthcare system

The China Study by T.Colin Campbell

http://books.google.com/books?id=KgRR12F0RPAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+china+study&hl=en&ei=B8hgTK7VFcSclgeZgbGwCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Reversing Heart Disease by Julian Whitaker

http://books.google.com/books?id=EPB0rdl0yZQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=reversing+heart+disease&hl=en&ei=eshgTNLpOMH6lwees8maCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Overall, you will go a long ways to helping yourself by finding any excuse to eat whole foods and more fruits and veggies.

My 2 cents,

Rene'

driedfruitsrev.pdf

blueberry8114.pdf

Really? So what about the other 73.3% of the US population? HFCS is in everything so why isn't everyone fat?

Hello Mantis,

While the obesity epidemic in this country has roots in both the overabundance of sugar and fat (easy to access and it's cheap, also part of the poverty-obesity paradox) as well as the underabundance of physical exercise, it's a little more complicated - the answer to your question is that we are all genetically unique, so effects of any particular diet will vary with the genetics of the individual. Consider how some portion of the population gets better results from one OTC (say Advil), while others get better results from aspirin, all this is rooted in individual genetics - for a great breakdown of this, check out Roger Williams' classic Biochemical Individuality:

http://books.google.com/books?id=o_HUXwbnsEoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=biochemical+individuality&hl=en&ei=A6VgTLaKNoWClAfJmcWZCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Some portion of the population will be more affected than others, but even in those not showing overt effects, there are still problems at a cellular level (decreasing insulin sensitivity for one thing).

In the end, our bodies were designed for a lot more physical activity and to run on a lot less energy-dense food. The changes in our environment (diet and physical activity requirements) over the past 100 years or so have thrown a huge monkey wrench in the feedback loops that regulate our body homeostasis.

Cheers,

Rene'

Lovely.

 

Hey Guys,

Very cool stuff - I gotta say, I never fail to be impressed by the agility expressed by older players, very inspiring, this is how I would like to age - I took a class with Nestor Capoeira years back and I was amazed at his agility, he was in his late 60's at the time - my first teacher, Elias Fonseca (Capoeira Quilombo San Diego) was still doing flips in his 40's - I've also been amazed at the liberating and cleansing effect from the combo of music and rhythm, the axe from a good roda has been quite healing to me.

Salud,

Rene'

Hello,

I just wanted to add my small experience with PK thus far - I recently started training with Pak Pohan in Houston - This was suggested to me by the main rep here in the States since she's not here in TX - I was impressed by her ability to read my energetic state without my prompting with any information on my part - a while back I had an in-person "read" from Robert Peng, who made specific statements about 2 meridians - this PK teacher told me the exact same thing about these 2 same meridians during our conversation, which I found very interesting, to say the least.

All for now,

Rene'

It depends on many factors, the single most important one is "who you are". I did expand on what I mean by this in another recent thread. I have had many people say that they practice from the book and have gotten great personal results. The book itself, as reported by many, does provide a certain "transmission".

But anyone that practices will find that the level of the practice is enhanced by a significantly large factor with the personal qi projection. And the continued study of the system, especially for those that wish to heal others, does indeed require the qi projection. What many fail to realize is that ALL that I teach in inherently tied into the Stillness-Movement practice.

 

And, this is a "moving meditation" type practice- not a "meditation". It is Stillness-Movement - Not stillness. Better calm can be achieved than stillness by itself and creative aspects are significantly enhanced that stillness by itself does not. Also the vibration aspect associated with the practice is different.

Hello Ya Mu,

In your experience, is transmission still possible with someone that had a previous transmission that is deemed "incompatible" with the Stillness-Movement school? Would a "transmission overhaul" be necessary if this person wanted to keep training with your school?

I've heard about potential energy incompatibilities between martial and healing schools, but have you seen problems like this between exclusively healing energies from different schools?

Thanks for your time and all the best,

Rene'

Hello Sifu Terry and Everyone,

I just wanted to chime in with my experience with FPCK thus far - I've only been practicing about 5 months, and my practice has just been including a small portion of the exercises that have "clicked" with me so far (seated #2(50,30,10), MSW3(90,80,50,20), and Monk holds pearl (50,40,30,20,10) of course, I haven't begun to scratch the surface, but for me it's a start for daily practice)- I've been intrigued that a boost in my immunity in general has been the most overt thing I've noticed, usually I catch a small cold at least a couple of times during the winter, I've felt vulnerable in general to "wind invasion" in the past, but these have been very conspicuously absent over the past few months. For me, this is very peculiar.

I also have noticed I can do MSW3 at night and I can still go to sleep easily.

I know that Sifu Terry has mentioned a negative impact of sudden shock and I live near a busy street. Is it still possible to make a suggestion to the subconscious that no sudden sounds will impact the system before practice, would this prevent problems inherent with sirens going off nearby?

Best,

Rene'

Hello Sabretooth,

I don't know if he uses the same terminology of uniting Yin and Yang (maybe someone else can chime in here) but he asserts his method is a Shaolin one - the electrical phenomena come from a combination of this method as well as his own innate gift, he says that he cannot teach this to others because of this - kind of analogous to the situation with an Olympic athlete, that athlete can teach someone else the training method, but whether or not the other person will reach the same heights is another question and calls into play that person's biological potential.

There is also an assumption that the overt electrical phenomena are only produced by union of yin and yang energies, but it may not be the case.

Cheers,

R

Do you know the method he used to combine the two energies together ?.

 

 

 

sabretooth.

Hello All,

Great article, thanks for the heads up - two other possible approaches would be to use gua sha on ST36, scraping in a downward direction 20-30 times - the other approach would be to apply an essential oil, such as lavender, or use Nutragena (or any other lotion with a high urea content, this comes from an old article in The American Journal of Acupuncture back in the early 90's).

R

Was using tiger balm, but I've been considering trying this...

 

http://www.lhasaoms.com/OSmoxa_Moxa_Spray-42-1093-page.html

Hello Sifu Terry,

Many thanks for the informative reply, you raise some very good points - I was not thinking of my girlfriend during the practice, just keeping my mind relaxed and in "neutral" - When we repeated this later she was again coming out of the shower, she started to feel the "thick air", pressure, but felt everything go away and felt very relaxed as soon as she lied down for the remainder of my practice - she was in the bedroom while I practiced in the dining room, her door was closed - while relaxed, she told me she saw a flood of tiny points of light going through the room, I have an ancestor altar in an adjacent room - the lights died down as soon as I came in to tell her I was done - the only spiritual work I've been doing to date just involves cultivating my connection with spirit energy as I'm just a neophyte - My experience may be an outlier also since my girlfriend is *very* sensitive, she also may have some emotional issues regarding her gift, she doesn't like talking about this and has told me she actively suppresses this, this could be a big psychological issue that might come to the surface when the outer conditions are fertile.

My own psychological conditions have been pretty mellow, no big ups or downs, a pretty even keel.

Once again, many thanks for your insight.

Best,

R

Hello Rene,

 

The reaction you described that your girlfriend had (pressure in the head and heart starting to race) is unusual and not the typical contact high that folks in proximity with FP practitioners feel--which is becoming more relaxed and feeling "mellow". This is especially true of pets. FP meditations are very calming and so benign they will calm and put your pets to rest! Not that we will all become like St. Francis of Assisi, and have wild animals cooo and lie down at our feet, but I've experienced and my qigong students over years have reported very calming effects that are "contagious". But NEVER has anyone reported that their FP practice had brought on a stress or panic reaction in others closseby. My students, friends, my girlfriend, and my unusually hyperactive 4 year-old beagle all get mellow and cozy during and after my FP practice.

 

It sounds like your girlfriend might have suffered a possible panic attack. It's possible that being around your FP practice caused her to subconsciously relax some repressive mechanism that was holding back the hypertension symptoms, and caused those symptoms to be released.

 

Or, if you happened to be carrying a lot of serious stress and heaviness, and were to venting or exorcising it through the FP practice, because of your psychic and sexual connection with your girlfriend, that energy might have transferred to her.

Question: Were you thinking of and concentrating on your girlfriend when yo were doing the FP meditations?

 

At any rate, without being there to observe both of you individually and the dynamic between you two, I can only conjecture as to what might have happened to cause your girlfriend those symptoms. There are too many variables for me to say anything conclusively. (And too bad I wasn't present because those symptoms are very easy to take off a person...after one has completed the FP training and learned GM Doo Wai's healing methods.)

 

At the previous location where I taught my FP Qigong every week for 7 years (the 2nd floor studio a major ballet school in Los Angeles where I rented space) , the caretaker of the studio always said to us on our way out that he was regularly "blown away" by the effects he felt downstairs underneath us when we were doing the seated FP Meditations (the "Monk Serves Wine" series). He described feeling the same effects that we all felt from doing the seated FP med's: a = "swooshing", liquid, washing sensation throughout the brain matter underneath the skull, which at first was totally startling, but then he got used to it and said that it was a cool "high."

 

So the effects of group practice of FP meditation can be quite profound and far-reaching.

 

Also Rene, I recall that you said that you practice Santeria to some extent. You might thus examine what type of spiritual work or operations you've been doing lately (if any), because your girlfriend's experienced pressure in the head (throbbing temples???) also sounds very much like spiritual fallout. Flying Phoenix qigong will only intensify the energy impact of spiritual work--whether it's clean work or sloppy work.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

P.S. If any other practitioners of the FP Qigong have experienced any type of "unusual, untoward, perplexing, non-ordinary phenomena ...please feel free to share your experience and I'll try to clarify for you (if I can).

Hello All,

I was curious if anyone had a similar experience - I recently had a girlfriend complain about feeling pressure in her head and her heart speeding up when I practice FPCK - while I'm doing the exercises, I feel nothing out of the ordinary, I'm doing practice for about 20-30 min at a time - at the time she was in a separate room and only knew I was doing some sort of "exercise", she doesn't really know what chi kung is, she was not watching me at the time, she was coming out of the shower and dressing when she felt "funny", she wanted to leave the house as soon as I finished to get some air - I did this again and told her to lie down and relax if this happened again, which she did and felt much better - I haven't had a chance to test her reactions further, I just hope I'm not doing anything wrong.

Rene'

Hi Sifu Terry,

Is it OK to wear earplugs during FPCK? I live in an area with a lot of big trucks passing by and this is probably the only to prevent any inadvertent shock to the system during practice. Also, can the seated meditations be done sitting in a chair as well? Or is half-lotus a crucial component to these exercises?

Thanks,

Rene'

Cool link - This may be an extension of this group here in the US www.sundo.org - I visited this center a few years back, only got to attend one class but very cool.

R

Hmm that's cool. What a coincidence. A friend of mine was just visiting from Korea. She calls it Sundo and she is a Zen practitioner, but this particular practice of Sundo is part of their Zen practice, they teach it at their temple and it has over 120 levels. Each level takes a few months to master(min 1 hour daily). She hasn't been sick at all in the past 5 years.

 

Is it really? His organization has people come all the time and try to demonstrate abilities. Most are genuinely surprised when they fail. Randi would not cover up a discovery like that and no scientist has a real incentive to do so at all. Real science loves to buck the status quo. That's where the interesting stuff is. That's where the money is. No one wants to sit around and write papers on stuff everyone agrees about. If there was really something to get your teeth into here, young physics students would be writing thesis papers on it and winning acclaim and fame.

 

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Hey Disciple,

Great points, although in my opinion this is the ideal, your mileage may vary depending on the lab your in - in some cases, it may very well be in the interest of a lab invested in certain ideas to keep the status quo - look at what is being funded for RO grants (at least in biology), most is not concerned with bucking the status quo, although I hope things are changing. I totally agree that the real science is in the stuff that cracks current foundations, although if you look at the history of science, inertia rules all. Look at the time delay between initial discoveries and the actual acceptance by the majority: Semmelweis and hygiene, scurvy, etc.

 

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Were these published in any journals? I'm not a biologist so I can't judge this material. They seem to make several very very casual assumptions about the nature of this energy and that it even exists which I found a little unusual for a biological paper, but again, not an expert.

 

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Good points - one of the fundamental problems seems to be at the cause/effect level. To date, no one, in the East or West to my knowledge, has been able to identify "what" qi is with current instrumentation - all experiments show effects, but the form of the effect usually fits to an energy that is being measured, so this includes EM, radioactive particles, etc.

 

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Yeah that's a good point. It could be there's some real stuff here and it just hasn't migrated over yet. It's hard to trust Chinese journals when it comes to hard sciences. A lot of them are kind of cruddy. There is also a lot of state-sponsored stuff that kind of totes the party line. If there is something that acts externally really here, that is stronger than placebo, it wont be hard to test for. When I've seen tests done that failed, people would claim that the experimenters had some kind of negative energy that stopped it from working or something.

 

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I agree there is a problem with Western scientist trusting some of the data, especially where politics muddies the picture. I also agree that negative intent makes a great excuse for things not working, although I wonder if some of this phenomena can in fact be affected.

 

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That's funny you mention that because I do a very similar trick. I made a very very small device that fits in my shoe and is completely impossible to detect unless you hold and examine the shoe very carefully. It charges my body with static and I can turn it on and off with a tiny movement of my feet. With that I can shock people or move small objects. I showed it to an older couple and they were not even surprised. They said they used to have a toy or something similar when they were younger. I'm sure your experience was profound, and I'm not saying he was tricking you. My problem is, I'm pretty serious when I get into something and I don't want to waste any of my time on ineffective techniques. I need to _know_ and my standards of _knowing_ are high.

 

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Yeah, I think it's always a great idea to learn some amateur magic, just so we are aware of the mundane possibilities. When I was shocked by Peng, the shocks came in 1-2 sec. pulses, just on the edge of my pain threshold - at the forehead, it felt like I was getting jackhammered, electrical feelings extended into my teeth -there were also audible popping noises, like you hear with a taser, I wish I could have recorded audio - I saw no phosphenes when I closed my eyes, I saw no visible sparking - facial muscles did not contract at all, but larger muscles contracted with treatment, just my experience.

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To me, it still seems pretty easy. Just e-mail [email protected] or call anyone's number on the website and setup a test. You both agree to the conditions and that they are fair. Then you show up or setup some other way of doing it, get tested, get a ton of money and enough fame that you'll never have to work a single day in your life ever again. Just off the top of my head, if you can heal, then we maybe get 60 rats and injure them all completely identically and set 20 aside as a control, use 20 for the experiment and 20 for the placebo. You do whatever you do to heal the rats -- hold them or whatever. Then someone completely untrained will simply hold the 20 in the placebo group. Do this and if the results are statistically significant, repeat the procedure, write up the results in a paper, publish it and try hard to think of how much you'll enjoy the fame.

 

 

 

 

Sure, scientists are people too, and some are better than others and some are more rigid than others. Science, though, is not all stuffy rooms and white haired people that refuse to change. That's what thesis papers are for. That's what the new young blood does -- they buck the status quo. As I said before, that's where the exciting stuff is and where people will dig. Digging is being done but exciting results are not forthcoming.

 

 

 

 

Yes, there is a lot of information but the quality of the information is uniformly low. Not all scientific institutions and cultures are equal. Western science is top notch, and standards are incredibly high.

 

 

 

 

My goal wasn't really to take on all of supernatural-dom, but I will if people want to throw some stuff at me and I have enough time. Really, I just wanted some feedback on this particular system and if and how anyone knows the hours they spend on this a week are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing. William Tiller makes some very fundamental errors. His thinking is not clear and I don't even know where to begin. If you want to offer up some specific points we could do that, but we should make another thread or talk in PMs.

 

With regards to super natural powers, healing chi, psychic abilities and so on, how would these have evolved? People used to believe in them much more strongly and leaned on them much more heavily to explain the moving shadows in the dark and more and more science is shedding light and finding answers -- putting the pieces together -- giving us a wealth of technology. All the while super natural abilities are pushed more and more to the fringes, always seeming to perfectly elude scrutiny. I would love it if healing chi, chi materialization, telekinesis, etc were real -- I really would, but if I'm going to spend an hour plus a day working on something, I need high standards of evidence. I'm desperate, really. Iron palm? Yeah, that's legit. I know from personal experience. Internal strength? Nothing esoteric about it. It can be felt and understood in a few minutes and can be very nicely explained in western terms.

Very cool points, I'll continue additional discourse on PM.

Cheers,

Rene'

Correction: only one of the attached papers above is on Yan Xin's qi abilities - I've attached 2 more papers for your perusal, again not a whole lot in Western journals but there are a few out there.

Cheers,

R

Hi Disciple,

 

You raise very good and obvious points and I think it is always more complicated than just going to Randi - check out some of the literature on chi (of course a lot is not in English), I've included a couple of papers on Yan Xin that Drew passed on.

 

Now I mention Yan Xin because he's the most well-documented practitioner - there is an English translation of a book going into detail of his collaboration with high-energy physicists in China, doing the seemingly impossible like altering radioactive half-lives, etc. (this book is really hard to find and only around $200 http://www.amazon.com/Yan-Xin-Qigong-contemporary-sciences/dp/B0006F5QTY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268784877&sr=1-10) Of course, most Western scientists have not seen any of this literature and even if they did see it, who among them would actually vet this? And all this despite the paradigm-shaking potential of such a discovery.

 

Now I still have many questions on this general phenomena, but I must admit, much of my doubt has been quelled since getting shocked by Robert Peng, so now I have to wonder. One could still ask why he just doesn't go to Randi or any other group of skeptics and demonstrate. I don't think there is an easy linear path to proving this, despite the apparent simplicity of "show them."

 

Things get even more complicated when you start talking about unspoken bias among scientists who have a definite world-view (it's there any time you have groups of people interacting).

 

From my perspective, there is actually quite a bit of data on the phenomena, but it will still take a lot of work to dig this up, translate when necessary, and present this to Western scientists who would be interested in replicating/verifying the information.

 

In my opinion, you don't need to go looking for someone that displays supernormal abilities, just look at the effects of ordninary human intent, which is well-documented in William Tiller's works (among others, such as Dean Radin, Lynne McTaggert,etc) which show very compelling data in systems such as Drosophila development, etc.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,

Rene'

qi 2002_YanXin_Qigong_JSE.pdf

ki1.pdf

Hi Disciple,

You raise very good and obvious points and I think it is always more complicated than just going to Randi - check out some of the literature on chi (of course a lot is not in English), I've included a couple of papers on Yan Xin that Drew passed on.

Now I mention Yan Xin because he's the most well-documented practitioner - there is an English translation of a book going into detail of his collaboration with high-energy physicists in China, doing the seemingly impossible like altering radioactive half-lives, etc. (this book is really hard to find and only around $200 http://www.amazon.com/Yan-Xin-Qigong-contemporary-sciences/dp/B0006F5QTY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268784877&sr=1-10) Of course, most Western scientists have not seen any of this literature and even if they did see it, who among them would actually vet this? And all this despite the paradigm-shaking potential of such a discovery.

Now I still have many questions on this general phenomena, but I must admit, much of my doubt has been quelled since getting shocked by Robert Peng, so now I have to wonder. One could still ask why he just doesn't go to Randi or any other group of skeptics and demonstrate. I don't think there is an easy linear path to proving this, despite the apparent simplicity of "show them."

Things get even more complicated when you start talking about unspoken bias among scientists who have a definite world-view (it's there any time you have groups of people interacting).

From my perspective, there is actually quite a bit of data on the phenomena, but it will still take a lot of work to dig this up, translate when necessary, and present this to Western scientists who would be interested in replicating/verifying the information.

In my opinion, you don't need to go looking for someone that displays supernormal abilities, just look at the effects of ordninary human intent, which is well-documented in William Tiller's works (among others, such as Dean Radin, Lynne McTaggert,etc) which show very compelling data in systems such as Drosophila development, etc.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,

Rene'

I have a simple question about Flying Phoenix Chi Kung that also applies to many of Doo Wei's claims about supernatural powers -- chi healing and such. I could make this several pages long, but I'll be brief.

 

The question is if this stuff is legitimate? That is, actually real and not just real in the sense that your mind makes it real, why is it not being explored by science wholeheartedly? For example, if you could really demonstrate action at a distance, there is a lot of prize money waiting for you, not to mention and endless stream of grant money and other funds from wealthy individuals and corporations wishing to develop technologies replicating the action, and so on. In short, it would be a fundamental reconfiguration of most of the hard sciences and would affect almost everything in the same way that the theory of evolution affects so much biology.

 

I've broken coconuts and have practiced various elements of bak fu pai and other types of meditation for several years and have experienced very real sensations, but I have yet to see anything conclusive regarding action at a distance. I've seen Doo Wai move paper in his own recordings with his own setups, but my standards of evidence are just a little higher. I'm a serious person and I don't want to waste my time chasing anecdotes, feelings and hearsay because every culture has some form of spirit healing and when tested are all just as good as placebo.

 

So there it is. How do you know it works? Personally, and my goal is not to confront but really just get at some answers here, but personally, it's hard for me to get it up when it comes to esoteric breath control sequences and elaborate hour long slow moving meditations if there's no way to actually, really, truly quantify progress and if I'm OK with thinking "I touched him and he felt better, must have been my healing chi." then I would have to accept that someone who says Zeus blessed their wife with child has the same standard of evidence that I do. If this could be shown to, let's say, the Randi Foundation, you would get a million dollars. Science would be changed forever. You'd be a hero. Everyone would be trying to prove you wrong but the evidence would stand up to scrutiny and everyone would be forced to admit something is there. This has yet to happen and I cannot begin to understand how, what amounts to, a quasi-mystical pre-science culture could have figured it out without us noticing such an important, fundamental aspect of nature.

 

Anyone care to help me out with their thoughts?

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Hi Leon,

Interesting topic and a tough question - it seems that sleep needs vary and usually fall in the 4-8 hr range, but the bottom line is that we all need it for survival - the actual function is still controversial and is not totally clear from my reading, although it's been a while - I've always been curious about modifications to the normal function as a consequence of training in different yogic disciplines, I'm curious if anyone's sleep needs have dramatically changed as a result of yogic training.

Cheers,

R

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Hello YM,

Thanks for the link, very cool - do you have any recommendations or links for those that would like to learn more about these sets? Are there any translations of the instructions or any instructors you'd recommend?

Also very interesting that movements were repeated at a different angle of the torso, keeping more tension in the abdomen.

Cheers,

R

Great stuff!

 

thx

Interesting to note that when I took the bottled kombucha years back I noted a *very* similar effect as apple cider vinegar in ramping up my exercise tolerance - I keep a record of numbers with my calesthenics over the years as a crude litmus test for overt effects - also interesting to note that pectin in the ACV may have chelating effects, taking out some heavy metals in the system- just my small experience and your mileage may vary depending on your indiviual biochemistry, but this might be worth looking into as another alternative since ACV is relatively cheap as well.

Cheers,

R

Just get a little starter kombucha for cheap and then make your own, as Lin says. It is so easy and you can make it with green tea as well as black, and experiment. Green tea with lemongrass for a summery champagne - like kombucha. Black tea for a more gutsy winter one.

 

It's a mysterious substance that balances the body. That's all I know, though I do make it and love it. The cultures are quite amazing, I blend them with aqueous cream for my parents and they use it on arthritic joints and find it very useful. The old cultures are great for the soil, to help grow things.

Hello Steve,

Thanks for posting this, very interesting info - How long does Master Fung recommend training per day? Does he see any partial benefit if the student can only do a fraction of this time (20 min instead of 1-2hours)?

Cheers,

Rene'

Hello Sifu Dunn,

I'm *really* enjoying the FPCK exercises and I had a queston, Which

exercises from Vol.1 or Vol.2 would you recommend for helping with any

leg blockages?

Many thanks for your time and all the best,

Rene'

Hello Sifu Dunn,

Many thanks for all the valuable tips, I will definitely keep these in mind as I start the practice. I had a general question: in your experience, do different qigongs cultivate intrinsically different qis or energies? I have heard about different categories of qi, like pre- and post-natal, yin, yang, etc. Does the spectrum of qi energy also span something similar to that of the electromagnetic spectrum?

All the best,

R

You're very welcome, Rene.

 

Tip: In the beginning, try to practice each DVD's entire series of exercises in one sitting--or standing . Each DVD program 9 except for Vol.2) takes about 50 minutes. This Qigong practice is cumulative. Within a matter of days or less, you will feel tangible results. (Vol. 2 will take longer as each of seated meditation is done in sets of 7 repetitions. With Vol. 2, practice all the warm-up meditations regularly and then one or two of the Monk Serves Wine mediations at a sitting.)

 

A lot of people using my DVD's try one or two exercises and not do them for 5 minutes each or not do the seated ones in sets of seven, and then skip around the program...and they ask me why they don't feel anything!!!

No, that produces results very slowly--about 10x more slowly. Or even no results at all.

 

In the beginning, try to do each FP exercise (both standing or seated) for at least 10 minutes. Once you cover all the exercises this way, then let the exercises "grab" you. there will be certain ones that you just cause you to naturally resonate more and then you can focus on this favorite ones intensively. it's different for every practitioner.

 

In my Qigong classes in Los Angeles, we cover all the basic seated (6) meditations and all the standing med's in Vols. 1 and 3 (sometimes 4) in about an 1 hour 45 minutes--with very short if any breaks.

 

ALL IS MIND.