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Google orgone meter to start your research. Reich may have beaten you to this.

There is a theory that cats purr when injured to help promote healing. Same idea as standing on a vibrating plate. I wonder which frequencies would be more conducive to healing or effecting various parts of the body.

 

an article:

http://www.bksv.com/2798.asp

advanced yoga practices

Biology of Kundalini has a lot of info, hopefully it can help you.

Brain Sync is good. Holosync is a subscription based model and you will get endless junk mail and spam if you sign up for it. Brain Sync lets you buy mp3s and download them, no spam, no junk mail.

As far as playable web games go its pretty lame, I only played the first 3 levels though, so it may get better. The idea is cool and all, but the same game has been done 100s of times, with different characters.

 

A couple of my favorite playable web games are:

 

Desktop Tower Defense

 

Bowmaster Prelude

How about a top 10 list?

 

top ten things i learned lurking at taobums.com

10. few know anything, and none know everything (unless you have a lot of cash and time secret workshops in China)

9. avoid chia

8. meridians should be open

7. drinking pee is ok

6. get your own dan tien - if you can figure out what one is

5. ron jeremy is not just a porn star

4. he who speaks the most says the least

3. keep your tongue up

2. don't forget to breathe

1. never trust a top 10 list

 

or whatever, we could put some of the better suggestions from above into a top 10 list on the back of the shirt.

Tip: Watch our exchange.

 

I offered from my experience how I turned from a person who talked about things to a person who talked to people.

 

You asked me if I was recruiting for some kind of club.

 

WTF?? There you tried to criticize me. Then you began an all out attack, insulting my intelligence, experience, motives, and attitude, later you resorted to insulting my happiness.

 

It reflects upon you.

 

In any case a discussion on an online forum is wholly unlike a conversation in person. There is no contact, no shared environment, no body language, none of the things that make a personal conversation, personal. I was merely sharing what I found helpful until I was attacked by you.

 

I was seeking for you to recognize that I was merely trying to contribute, and not put myself out to be attacked for having an intellectual club or anything else. I'm just a dude who wants to help people out.

 

Good night.

And, perhaps, this kind of attitude is why you don't enjoy the types of conversation you long for. Not surprised by your response.

 

Peace out

L

 

I was merely relating my experience in developing my conversational skill and you were critical of me. I have all the conversations I want and am satisfied in and with them. I believe that we do not understand one another or that you are being hypercritical of my contribution.

if someone breaks into my house with a gun, then i'll give them what they want and they can leave. if they kill me, then they kill me. having a fear of death is just an attachment to your physical body and just shows lack of spiritual progress.

 

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i am being overtly idealistic but thats just my style baby

Uhh yeah, riiiight. Its easy to sit in your comfortable home behind a computer screen and say that someone's fear of death just is their own personal failing, but until you've had a gun pulled on you you'll never know how far from reality you are. Losing complete attachment to the body is an advanced stage of spiritual cultivation. Further, having your life threatened at gun point by someone you don't know is an experience that will change your life. Its not cool, its not easy, you don't think rationally, your are in a shit panic unlike any panic you've experienced before. It is not like "Yeah man come on in take what you want don't mind me." A few moments after word you can't even remember what you said or what when down when you were faced with the possibility of the end of your life at someone else's whim. If that avatar is your picture then you seem young, likely you do no have a wife or kids, same as me. I can not imagine what would happen if someone broke into my house and threatened my family. A high degree of non attachment indeed.

I think that originally, this topic was referring to "deep" as philosophical conversation... Think about it, if you didn't desire this type of interaction you wouldn't be here, intellectually and philosophically discussing the meaning of small talk.

 

Sure, guilty as charged. I desire conversation with a degree of intelligence and philosophical depth. But in my mind talking about "things" whether philosophical concepts, the weather, or science is still making small talk. When I talk to people I want to know how they feel about these deep topics, why they feel that way, and what experiences they have had that made them consider those philosophies or study those sciences in the first place. Thats the kind of depth I seek, getting to know people, making a connection and sharing with them.

 

Discussions on a internet forum are inherently different than in person discussions for a number of reasons. I am drawn here to be able to discuss spiritual cultivation, self improvement, and related ideas with other people who have valuable ideas and experiences to contribute. I offer my comments in hopes that someone else may benefit from them. I generally try not to debate the finer points of esoteric topics, although I did go through that phase. Now I try to contribute value and take what I feel is of value to me.

Here is a video demonstration of how this is done.

 

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Let's try it the other way...

 

Maybe what you think is deep is, in fact, quite shallow and your stated desire to cut through small talk to a deeper layer of communication befuddles whomever you are conversing with. What is deep? What is shallow? I am not being a nit-picky Taoist with the whole "the tao that can be named is not the eternal tao..." schtick. The point is a conversation requires more than you and your desires, it requires the other person (or persons) for participation.

 

I can't give you a book to read but suggest you try the approach of walking in someone else's conversational shoes, in this particular instance.

 

Peace out

L

 

Sure another way to look at it is that we are not seeing eye to eye. I know that small talk is just the surface of a person talking and that if I want to get to know someone better I have to talk about them and how they think and feel. This may not provide for philosophically "deep" conversation, but it provides for a more personal, intimate conversation, which is more fun an satisfying than small talk.

 

Please enlighten me as to what you mean by deep. I assume that when people share personal stories with me where they laugh out loud, blush, become highly animated that the conversation has taken on a personal depth beyond that of small talk. Signs of befuddlement do occur, and thats the risk you take in starting a conversation, some people are just boring, closed off, or emotionally absent. I am dumbstruck that you have not had someone lead a conversation that you have been in, or conversed with someone who skillfully got you to participate in a conversation that you enjoyed. Perhaps you need to get out more and stop being so critical.

There isn't much to be learned in giving of yourself if you only want to give that which you desire to receive back.

 

If your comment is directed at me, then you have misunderstand me. My goal in a conversation with someone I do not already know, or would like to get to know better, is to try to cut through the small talk and to share a conversation about their thoughts, feelings, and experiences on a deeper level. I don't have a club for anyone to join, I simply enjoy meeting and getting to know people on a level deeper than small talk. In that effort I offer the same, exactly what I "desire to receive back". The structure of human interaction normally requires one person to initiate a deeper level of conversation (beyond facts, and into opinions or feelings) for the other to follow along. That then requires me to offer (or request) what I desire to receive in order to get the same back. If you get the feeling that there is something devious or self serving here, its not, its simply the way that conversations work and most people, incuding myself and the people I speak with, enjoy a good conversation. Check out the book Conversationally Speaking.

Max is at 2 hrs/day... Turbo 1.5... amazing stuff!! I'm maybe, if I feel like it, 15 minutes a day. I'm not taking it seriously until I get to Phoenix anyhoo for the empowerment part of it.

 

I meant that ideally the process takes 1.5 hours. 10 minutes to sit down get the visualization going, 1 hr of actual Kunlun, then 20 min of cooldown/dan-tien posture. I have never made a full hour yet, my shoulder usually gives out between 30 and 45 minutes. I recently had surgery on my ankle and have been unable to practice for a bit, hopefully I'll be able to get a few minutes in tomorrow morning.

 

Anyone have any ideas about a less than 1 hour Kunlun posture requiring less than 20 min cool down?

The water situation in the US, and probably the world is pretty bleak. Check out this article. Very informative. Very scary. The priorites of the US are going to be changing over the next 5 years and while change is unavoidable and all, this is going to be something entirely different.

I like the "get in the way" slogan.

 

I feel like a logo would be cool. Something classic but irreverent.

 

 

edit: maybe a b.w. montage of some selected avatars.

The Kunlun book advises against mixing with other, specifically energy moving, practices. I think a stretching/yoga asana warm up is good, at least for me, to get my body and mind awakened, but I really don't have time for more than some stretching and 1.5 hours of Kulun before starting my day.

The solution for small talk that works best for me is to turn it personal as quickly as possible. This can be accomplished by asking an opened ended question like "Whats that like?", "What got you into that?", "How does that make you feel?". The next step I take is to say something supportive and then tell a story along the same lines, like "I want to live I life where I can help people, it really feels so good to know that someone else is in a better place after having interacted with them." I always make sure to pepper my response with plenty of adjectives and emotions to make it more engaging. The more you practice the better you get.

 

Everyone has an amazing story in them, you just have to get it out. Be supportive. Taking this approach has helped my personality in general.

Cameron,

 

Guns are not inherently evil, nor are they low energy. This is only a reflection of your thoughts about guns. My feelings about guns is that they are a tool and often a valuable tool, unfortunately they are used without forethought, in ignorance, and without education. Just like any other tool they can, and unfortunately are, used to injure people. I agree that this use is bad, wrong, and evil. However a gun does not fire itself, it requires someone to load, aim, and fire it. That said some people are still injured when all precautions are taken, occasionally hunter is shot instead of a deer.

 

An individual who owns a gun should use it. In fact they should be proficient in its use and in all relevant safety measures. I recall an article I read a year or so ago that talked about a community that had a very high percentage of armed residents, and they had reduced crime rates. Criminals didn't want to get shot robbing someone. From a certain perspective is seems that the criminals are counting on their victims don't have a gun every time that commit a crime. I wonder how many trucks with a NRA stickers get car-jacked.

 

Anyhow, my feelings are that guns are dangerous and gun owners need to treat them with the up most respect and caution. There are enjoyable uses for guns, however in the wrong hands people misusing guns can wreak havoc. Also, the founders of the U.S. made a point of telling us that we have the right to bear arms and I feel this is very important for two reasons. First, foreign invaders would never bring an army into the US as the populace is too armed and what the army didn't take care of the citizenry would. Second, the founders believed that we may need to defend ourselves from the government someday.

 

Concerning karma I have two things to say. First, karma such a complex topic that it is said only the fully enlightened can understand its workings. Also, Milarepa killed 35 people as an act of revenge and attained enlightenment, not to say that we could or should, we should live as skillfully as possible, but karma is mysterious.

 

One thing I wonder about is whether it is better to kill an animal to eat than it is to buy dead animals to eat. Buying meat from the grocery store exposes you to all kinds of nasty stuff, and supports an incredibly destructive and animal abusive system. On the other hand, if you kill the animal, you pulled the trigger and the blood is on your hands so to speak.

 

Thanks for starting the discussion.

 

edit: cleaned up the skillful part

No problem, that's a good answer!

 

Own your mind, own your thoughts, don't be controlled. Sure it sounds great but it takes a lot of mental effort to achieve. Check out the book "Monsters and Magical Sticks" the author makes a solid case for the position that we are constantly hypnotized, by design. Psychological methods to sell have been advancing for decades. The organizations that produce the media that we are exposed to everyday are able to produce advertisements that will create enough nagging/begging in children that their parents will give in and buy the toy/cereal/etc. The level of control that the media(military industrial complex) has over our minds is incredible. The CIA has been studying this stuff since WWII. And 99% of the time were not aware of it. Further, taking the time to be aware of it may not even be worth it. If you spent your day concerned about what memes are being introduced into your thoughts you would have little time to get real things done.

 

Anyone who can own their mind has my up most respect, its easy to say, but doing it is a heavy order. Recognizing when one's mind has been influenced and rejecting that influence takes a constant vigilance, and when you get emotionally involved in your favorite TV show, radio station, or are zoning out or thinking about what youre going to do next, there is product placement, a dj promoting a product, or a billboard to take advantage of that state.

what do you mean they'd call me crazy?

 

I mean that if a person is overly right brained they are likely to be diagnosed as mentally ill, at least in the majority of industrialized nations. Industry appreciates those who follow directions, obey rules, respect structure , etc... all the left brain stuff. Right brain dominance is characterized by impulsiveness, disregard for structure, lack of respect for authority, all things that industrialized societies try to stamp out through "education". Look at the standardized testing in the US, where is the right brain given a chance to grow in that?

 

A right brain dominant person in an environment like that would be unusual, and such a person is likely to be labeled mentally ill or even crazy depending on the extent of their right brain dominance. Kids who can't sit still in class are called ADHD and given drugs.

 

In all things balance is important, it can be fun to let one side take over for a while, but balance is necessary to keep up the appearance of sanity.

i'm left handed thus right-brain dominant. i have defeated the system ha !!

 

 

Not likely...being right brain dominant could get you labeled insane or mentally ill by todays standards.

 

Check out Poker without Cards, a very interesting book, which has an interesting discussion on the hemispheres of the brain. Here is a link to the pdf. The author asks you donate $3.23 in the pdf, but on Amazon he says the pdf is the free edition.

 

Personally I think that meditation/qigong and spiritual systems work toward integration of the hemispheres as a (bi?)product. My current thinking is that the mind can be broken into 6 distinct parts, the 3 brains: lizard, mammal, human, which can also be seen as the brain stem and cerebellum, the lymbic system, and the neocortex, another way of looking at it is involuntary, emotional ,and logic parts. I am under the impression that each of these have a left and right portion. So to fully take in the world around us we need to activate all of these parts of the brain.

 

In an effort to do that I've tried to sing melodies in my head instead of counting things so much and plan to start taking some art classes to get more use of the right brain. Anyone have other suggestions?

Playing it by ear sounds best, but I'd definitely like to meet everyone and spend some time connecting and getting to know all you interesting folks. Of course if my ego is splattered all over the wall then it may be a little difficult.