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Keep talking about dookey ropes, and I'll toss my cookies all over this keyboard.

I've been slowly adding in more animal foods over the last couple of years. I was doing the raw vegan thing for about 4 years, but could never completely let go of raw dairy or raw fish/shrimp for more than a month or two at a time, which may have been a lucky thing for me. I'd try liver, raw fat, bone marrow, and maybe heart, if I were you. Other parts can be good too, experiment, but try not to overdo any one source or part. I'd eat green salads, raw olives, raw fish/shellfish/fish eggs, and raw goat milk/cheese/yogurt. I've never been to Greece, so I am only guessing as to what you can get there.

I knew I should just let people find out for themselves, mantis. Go do your research. Here is the basic research. Dr. Price found that the meat/blood/milk eaters, the Masai, were much healthier, stronger, and had better teeth than their mostly-vegetarian neighbors, the Bantu. he consistently found that the healthiest groups he found were the fish eaters, and that many groups would go to great lengths to get regular access to certain kinds of fish eggs and shellfish. I'm not saying you can't be a fairly healthy lacto-vegetarian. I am, however, saying that most seafoods are generally pretty darn good for your teeth, as are, when healthy animals are used, organ meats, etc.. These are facts. This doesn't mean I hail meat and fish as miracle foods....the best things I've found for my teeth are actually healing clays like pascalite, as well as coconut oil. However, I really have noticed the healing qualities of some kinds of shellfish (shrimp brains for me) and fish eggs too. I eat a mix of foods, and you're not going to meet many people who've been trying the raw diet seriously for as long as I have, and I guarantee none on this message board. Yoda--I live in Walnut Cove, about 20 minutes north of Winston. I am blunt sword/johnson from Winn's healing tao board. My diet isn't meat-based. I eat very little muscle meat. When I do eat land animals, it's the liver/lard/brains etc. from healthy animals. I am very particular about my sources. My big food sources are shellfish, fish, some raw goat dairy, coconut oil, and various other things like greens and some fruit (although I'm moving toward eating less fruit).

Yoda, a recent isotope analysis of early humans shows they ate basically nothing but meat and fish. East Asians can get away with a high-carb diet more easily because their pancreas and salivary glands are larger. The natural diet of humans is meat and fish, largely. Dr. Weston Price noted that the healthiest groups he found were the fish eaters, followed by the meat eaters. The closest-to-vegetarian groups he found had the worst teeth, bone structure, and health. I did the raw fruitarian thing, the raw vegan thing, and now I'm doing the nearly-all-raw RAF diet. My teeth, my mental state, my mood and my libido all thank me.

You can try precipitating nigari, but I am pretty sure the Ormus will be useless. Everyone who has ever dried out the precipitate says it is no longer effective for plants or people. As far as salt goes, I recommend "Fleur de Sel". The gray salt is not as good as fleur de sel. The quality of any sea salt an be easily tested by simply dissolving it in water, and then attempting to precipitate it. If it precipitates, it is unprocessed, and therefore better. I do not usually recommend salts mined from the earth. their Ormus content is usually not as good. However, you can try it. I always recommend buying different salts and precipitating them, to find out how good they are.

Barry Carter's website . The seawater precipitate is what is easy to make. The pure Ormus takes a lot longer, and a lot more work. The seawater precipitate is only about 30% Ormus, roughly. I don't know where to get food-grade or lab-grade lye in Italy. This is the link for the main Ormus Yahoo group. You can post your question about how to get lye on the group--someone may be able to answer it. There are some European ormus yahoo lists. You can ask Barry about those after you join the main list. Nigari would not work. You can either remove the sodium or the water from seawater, and the Ormus will still be pretty good. You cannot remove both--the ormus will be no good.

The best way is to make your own, in my opinion. The seawater method is quite easy, all you need is food-grade lye, unrefined sea salt or seawater, and pH paper or a pH meter. You slowly drip a liquid solution of lye into the seawater while stirring, until the pH hits 10.5 to 11. Then you let the solution settle, pour off the top water, add fresh water, let it settle again, and keep pouring off the top water and letting it settle until all the salt is rinsed out. It's no more difficult than the chemistry lab experiments that students do in high school. If you want pure Ormus that has no other minerals, then I would suggest the m-3 from Joe Lello or Don Nance. Both have been making it for years, and have hundreds of satisfied customers. Don healed his own colon cancer with the m-3. They also make pure gold products, but the m-3 has plenty of gold in addition to the rhodium and iridium. If you don't mind using strong acids, you can make your own pure gold or silver ormus at home. The method is quite simple, not much more difficult than the one I described above.

Java, I explained the method for getting rid of the metal-metal bonded clusters in my next post. Yes, I've made plenty of Ormus. I see no need to make the powder, because the liquid is more absorbable. I get my information from multiple sources, including Barry Carter and his website, including spending dozens of hours on the phone and in person with Barry, as well as from Don Nance, Joe Lello, and other producers who have been working with this stuff for years now. There's a main Ormus yahoo group, as well as the white gold list. Neither one is affiliated with any Ormus producers. Barry Carter is the host/moderator of both, and he makes his money from donations and weekend Ormus workshops that he gives all over the US and Europe. Like i said, there's a tremendous amount of bullshit out there about everything esoteric on the internet. You won't separate the crap from the truth in a few weeks or months. That's true for qi gong, martial arts, and Ormus.

The correct translation is "diamond thunderbolt". From what my teacher taught me, the "diamond" part of it refers to the path the lightning takes, specifically, an angled path. Diamonds have angles. Anyway, that's what he taught.

Plato says you can see people with all kinds of amazing abilities simply by taking a walk through the main park in Beijing in the morning. martial artists, gymnasts, all kinds of folks. I wish somebody would confirm that for me. I also wish somebody would videotape that so I could see. Hint hint.

In answer to your question, freeform, I've experienced pretty similar effects to what others get. The seawater precipitate has seemed to help reduce my tooth sensitivity. The m-3 has had a very calming, grounding influence. Cherokee gold trap water was better than any drug in keeping me calm and happy and relaxed. That's about all I've tried. I use some healing clays that I think have significant Ormus content, although I haven't tested them. The fact of the matter is, Dr. Weston Price noted that all the doctors he spoke with who cared for traditional peoples said the same thing--they never got cancer, heart disease, diabetes, strokes, etc. on their traditional diets. When they ate the foods of commerce, they started to get all those diseases, plus birth defects and all other kinds of problems. Not only that, in most cases they appeared to heal completely if they went back on their traditional diet. Furthermore, I've heard of plenty of miraculous healings on raw food diets. Finally, the healing of cancer with m-3, seawater precipitate, and other Ormus products is common knowledge in the inner circle of the Ormus community. I don't think the only mechanism of cancer-healing is Ormus, but I think it's very, very central. That's just a guess, but the evidence is persuasive. Dr. Price noted that the healthiest groups he studied were the ones that ate lots of seafoods. Pacific seawater precipitate is 30% unassayable, which means 30% Ormus. I think that combining several of the major Ormus products, including all the ones I mentioned here, with a raw foods diet, can heal most major health issues, including cancer.

jaya, In fact the gold powder products will not dissolve in the stomach acid, making them more difficult to absorb. There is no real problem with suspensions containing metal-metal bonds. I agree that those forms are toxic, but the major producers have a method to eliminate all of them. The Ormus forms of these metals precipitate out between pH 8-10. The metal forms precipitate out at significantly higher pH levels. The final step in preparing any pure Ormus suspension is to take the pH down to about 1.0 or thereabouts using HCl, then slowly raise it using lab-grade NaOH (lye) until you reach pH 10 or so. At this point, you pour off all the top liquid after the precipitate settles, and then repeat that step again, after adding more water, with the precipitate that you have. At this point, the only things you have in solution are salt and Ormus. It's quite safe, I've done it myself, and the major producers who use the sodium burn and/or pH swings method have been doing it this way for years, and have healed many peoples' cancers and other diseases. There's a lot of disinformation on the internet about Ormus products. The only way to get the good info is to get on the Ormus message boards like the White Gold list and the main Yahoo groups, study what people have posted, ask questions, and call or email the producers themselves. I've been studying it for about 3 years now. I've learned a lot, and there's a lot left to learn.

My question about retetion, which probably isn't a fair one, is: How can I predict/control when ejaculating will actually give me MORE energy? This has happened at least 3 times in the last 9 years or so, since I started paying attention.

I've tried a few Ormus products. Pure gold is not what you want. According to David Hudson, the brain contains two types of Ormus--rhodium and iridium. Several producers make a product that is suspended in water that has balanced/roughly-equal amounts of gold, rhodium, and iridium. I can link you to these websites if you want. it's good stuff. They're curing cancer with this, as well as with seawater precipitate.

Taoism--the religion--"be's worshipping this god/spirit/Immortal." the philosophy--"don't worry too hard 'bouts nothin'." the study of longevity--"a sound mind in a sound body, for a long, long time." Well, maybe.

It reminds of that Chinese saying "When a Chinese person succeeds, he's a Confucian. When he fails, he's a Taoist." Another one--"After 2 years of being a bum (not working, scrounging food, living off donations), one will not want to go back to working/making a living."

An excellent point. I wonder if Bill Clinton talks to people in that way. We all know Cheney does.

First off, I agree with TaoMeow's post. However, I'd like to add that I think certain sea foods are extremely helpful in this regard, as well as organ meats, particularly liver, from healthy animals. My method for determining the usefulness of a food is 5-fold. 1. Is it high in all kinds of minerals, fat-soluble vitamins, and water-soluble vitamins? 2. Have native groups touted it as a health tonic, and gone to great lengths to obtain it? 3. Can most people eat it without allergic reaction, and can they digest it? 4. can I myself eat it without allergic reaction, and can I digest it? 5. Unfortunately, right now we do have to pay a little attention to the purity of the source. Was the animal raised in a relatively healthy, unpolluted environment? This is particularly important if you're eating the organs. Fish eggs fit the bill more than any other food I've seen. I do notice that they tend to help my health, including reducing tooth sensitivity, and keeping my mood even.

Weston Price, a dentist from Cleveland way back in the day, cured plenty of people's cavities. Weston Price's book Scroll down about 1/3 of the way down to the 2nd picture of the x-ray of healed cavities, and read the associated text above and below the picture.

I just ordered some grains this week. I've been fermenting raw goat and cow milk naturally for years. I am curious to see how the kefir affects me.

dude.

I really enjoyed "The Idiot's Guide..." as well. I always wondered how someone named "Val Biktashev" would know so much about the subject.

I have lived for months at a time with coconut as my main calorie source. It can whiten and strengthen the teeth, speeds up the metabolism, and is generally very healthful. I use 2-3 tablespoons a day, nearly every day. I've used it for over 3 years now.

Bashing good-quality, raw milk from healthy cows is needless. If you can digest it, it can be very good for you. Plenty of people are lactose-intolerant, some more than others. Lots of traditional groups, including the Masai of East AFrica, and, up until recently, Swiss in the Loetschental Valley used raw milk, cheese, and butter in large amounts, and had excellent health. These groups prized particularly the spring butter/milk for it's health-giving properties.

I studied with someone who had this ability. He never trained me in it. here's the story: He said "grab my arm". he had done some funny qigong stuff right before this, I guess to focus the power or pump it up, or something. I had no idea that he could do this, or what was supposed to happen. So, I tried to grab his arm. I get within about 6 inches of his arm, but then....Blammo! The next thing I know, I'm flying through the air. I land on my back, screaming and holding my stomach. He never touched me. It was not pleasant. he never repeated the demonstration. According to him, there are plenty of people in China whose abilities make this look like child's play, both "good" guys and "bad" guys.