Apotheose

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  1. Greetings! Question about the Fall of man and infancy

    An interesting quote: Matthew 18:3 - ā€œTruly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heavenā€
  2. Greetings! Question about the Fall of man and infancy

    Very interesting response, thank you. In my interpretation - and in this specific context - what I think he meant by bringing up the Macro/Microcosmus concept is that there is a correspondence between the Fall of Man that ā€œhappenedā€ in the ā€˜Begining of Timesā€™ - which is the de-coalescence of Oneness into duality - and that which happens in the everyday lives of people who let the Ego harden too much due to excessive imersion in social axioms. As well as Adam and Eve fell from Divineā€™s Pure Grace and since ā€œthenā€ humanity is seeking out Reintegration, human psychology also Falls from non-duality (early childhood) to duality (teenage and adulthood), and then begins to search thirstly and uncounsciously for glimpes of the Divine Truth. That reminds me of a Jean-Jacques Rousseau quote, something along the lines of ā€œman is naturally good, but corrupted by societyā€. Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but I remember reading that the Age of Reason was heavily influenced by Rosicrucianism, so it wouldnā€™t be too bold to assume that their ideas were such of a mystical basis. Neither would it be too rash to assume that what Rousseau meant by ā€œnaturally goodā€ is that man is born in close contact with his Divine Nature instead of succumbed to a fallen dualistic mind. We shall be careful not to analyse the Fall of Man - in this particular context - from a pure christian standpoint, because that would much likely lead to a more pessimistic view (that of sin/evil), which would not be accurate in this case. But, in fact - at least in the Western world -, Iā€™ve noticed that despite having a good family background and a great infancy, people tend to lose completely the connection to the Cosmic, and itā€™s probably due to it being a highly reason based society. Idealy, childhood is joyful and composed by lots of those exact glimpses of Egolessness you mentioned, but as time passes it slowly fades away. Thatā€™s why I found the analogy so fascinating, since it is pretty similar to the Fall of Man concept. And that wouldnā€™t mean that humanity has fallen into Sin or Evil, but just - as you stated - Duality. Notice that thereā€™s no duality in the Oneness, whereas thereā€™s nothing but duality in people who got too engaged with social paradigms and lifeā€™s contingencies. Not to be judgemental, of course, but notice that non-mystics can only differentiate one from another by comparing themselves (social life, heath, wealth), since they are not aware of their true Nature as they were when they were kids. Comparison is all there is for the majority of humanity. Comparing eachother - in my view - is the most immediate symptom of an existence based just on duality. Some great Yogis have stated that only in an authentic Path (to Samadhi) you can understand the nature of things by how they truly are, and not by comparing them with other things. Just as coldness is not an entity but heatā€™s absense, and darkness is nothing but lightā€™s absense, egoic actions are a form of Divineā€™s absense, which is an observeable phenomenon as life stages pass.
  3. Greetings! Question about the Fall of man and infancy

    Thank you very much, Nungali and silent thunder!