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The Gate of Destiny The Gate of Destiny is a major energy center in the lower abdomen, generally associated with the sexual organs. Opening it is often the first step of alchemical initiation, so that its location and identification are crucial for the pratictioner. Unfortunately, texts are rarely consistent with identification. As shown in fig. 4a (from the Xingming Guizhi), the Gate of Destiny is located just below the navel, with the Gate of Mystery just below the kidneys. The heartm seat of the spirit, lets qi pour out like a spout; it feeds and receives energies from the liver, throat, and kidnwys - connected to the generation and distribution of essence. Fig. 4b, on the other hands, locates it twice: along the spine, in the fourth vertebra above kidneys, and also in the right kidney. An earlier source, the Daoshu (Pivot of Dao, DZ 1017, dat. 1151) places it below the navel and identifies it with the genitals (ch. 8); in another section, consistent with the Xingming Guizhi, the text agrees with the vision of chinese medicine and locates it in the right kidney (ch. 3). The Jinxian zhenglun tushuo (Illustrated Discussion of Evidentiary Discourses of the Golden Immortals, ZW 132; dat. 1799, sect. 10), identifies this Gate with the Yang Pass: "Below the Dark Prime is the Yang Pass. It is also called the Gate of Destiny. This is the point in men and women where they secrete essence."*** Regardless of the exact placement of the Gate of Destiny, its function is always related to the secretion of essence. Within the Macrocosmic Orbit, it lies at a point where essence passes into a self-refining circuit that eventually leads to immortal life; alternatively it may be where essence leaves the body entirely, leading to the gradual degradation of life and eventual death. It is therefore a gate leading to potentialities; the trajectory qi takes from here determines life and death. *** In Chinese Medicine, the Gate of Destiny is also a pressure point along the Governing Vessel. Some texts link it with the lower elixir field in men; others, with the spleen. In a completely different vision, the Huangting Jing identifies it with the nose, the navel, or a point behind the Yel;low Court, i.e., between the kidneys. Internal Landascapes by Sara Elaine Neswald in Internal Alchemy ed. L. Kohn and R. Wang

I did not say there is no relationship, I said Ming Men Xue and Ming Men are 'not the same thing'. Ask somebody who can feel and see both and you will know. Better yet, practice until you can feel and see them for yourself YM

No, they are not the same. Ming Men is a cavity in chinese acupuncture and an 'area' in Daoist Cultivation. They are not 'the same thing', at all YM

Bonsai in a way encarnates some of the actual features of Chinese Daoism. I suggest reading the excellent (old but good) monography of the late Rolf Stein The world in miniature: container gardens and dwellings in Far Eastern religious thought By Rolf Alfred Stein Translated by Phyllis Brooks Stanford University Press, 1990 http://books.google.com/books?id=EPEN13WLJ...ary_r&cad=0 YM

I guess we see things differently then. Also, I guess your opinion on his modus operandi would be different if you were not 'emotionally' linked to him as you are now, but I am glad you got some help which is all it counts for you of course. Best YM

Sure Loke, but I have yet to see one that wants the money to be paid for the service but than argues to convince you that the money are a 'donation' and pretends that he is a philantropist of Amnesty International ... Very sad, in my opinion YM

Yoda, as you seem to have utilized Mak's services let me ask you then: did you get an official receipt with your Fu ? YM

As expected no reply Maybe he is busy writing a 'tax-evasion-escape' FU The web has really all the info necessary to fix these issues ... To report suspected tax evasion: Tel.: 1-866-809-6841 (toll free) Tel.: 905-984-4830 Fax: 905-984-4829 Mail: St. Catharines Tax Services Office Ontario Region Informant Leads Centre 32 Church Street Post Office Box 3038 St. Catharines ON L2R 3B9 YM

The difference, apart from the fact that doing charity one is not paying for a service rendered, is that we know where the money is employed as those organizations are officially registered as such http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t2050/README.html By the way, since u keep insisting, do you pay taxes for the 'donations' you receive and do you issue an official receipt ? YM

If you want a change in luck simply WORK HARD EVERYDAY in everything you do !!! In chinese we say "my fate is not in heaven but in my own hands" YM PS: beware of those that will provide a 'change in luck' for a fee ... ehmm ... donation

Needless to say, Scotty, the same stands true here in China with Chinese Culture YM

LOL Feel free to call me off when I'd do so You can't sell "your wisdom" <sic> because you don't have any Spreading Dao means letting people see the beauty of Dao by themselves, not making them a slave of your funny superstition. You sound like a poor copy of a Jehovah Witness If there is a price tag on the product it is called selling, my friend YM

I am here to spend some time, to read and learn, not to sell, proselytize and cheat people To each their own YM

Oh ... and, Spirite Ape ... you get the cristall ball and Mak will provide the water FU ... Oh boy, I am holding my belly YM

Don't get angry with him or he would try to sell you a "relaxation FU" YM

I am sure that your mom/wife/fiancee's birthday is equally trivial, in that knowing it doesn't change the meaning of your relationship to her/them yet I guess you still remember it every year. For a Daoist, Laozi is one of the forefathers of Daoism and in previous emanations a representation of Dao itself, the creator of the 'ten thousand beings'. He existed and the transmission we were passed down for generations is the proove, just like your existence shows you had forefathers. YM

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I have heard about Sun Di in some martial circles here but never heard of his relationship with Daoism YM

Kidding aside, what I was trying to convey in my message to Mikael is that the reasons/methods he uses to disproove Lao Zi's existence shall apply to proove his own ancestors So if one thinks that Laozi may not have existed because some scholars says, or because there is no hard evidence etc. then they should try and proove that they had an ancestor some 2-3000 years ago with the same method: provide us with some hard evidence, documents or the likes, of his existence YM

Try to tell this to the IRS when it's time to pay taxes YM

According to Ho Peng Yoke the Luoshu is originally chinese and was transmitted later elsewhere: "The Luoshu diagram is the earliest known magic square in the world. It was transmitted later, probably during the Tang period, to India and the Muslim world, where it came into use as a charm, for example, for easing childbirth" Li, Qi and Shu: An Introduction to Science and Civilization in China By Peng Yoke Ho Published by Courier Dover Publications, 2000 And here is Robinet's take': YM

Maybe you don't care but a few other million people do For those who consider themselves 'descendants' of Laozi he certainly existed, just like all of your ancestors certainly did exist. But can you proove that all of them did ? YM

Did she study with a master Guo by any chance ? YM