shontonga

Ah, Yes, but! Argentium is less apt to tarnish!!! (Why they add it(actually germanium) to silver when making sterling.) an old stone of Neptune when an alchemist plays, an interesting stone of choice. Might be good to be a tarnish resistant crow! ??? ... or a bunch of silver, longer shining, stars maybe ... Either way,lol I am Shonton Ga. Hope you enjoy your time here Stay well, Shon

Lol, um? Lot of native stuff too American and other indigenousness peoples a key there is There is a humility to that too LOL Shoot, not many talk of that aspect openly you know! Peace kids

Hmm? Or is the Lord doing it through us so it's the same either way? that might depend on each persons personal relationship with the Lord (or the "divine"Name of choice)? Some would argue. Some would laugh. and some smile and just continue on. Chicken and the egg sorta thing ... Both should be blessed and thanked before being eaten! Scrambled ... fried ...

Like that. ...ummm, uhohhh? i get kinda "pemesie" ... and stuck in my head ... especially after a hard day at work ... and forget to read the whole thread??? and then the next day i realize i said what i said not the way it was meant to be said ... and end up wishing i hadn't said it ... at least not the way i said it!!! ... i also forget that folks have No idea of where i am coming from sometimes or this crazy life that's been being lived? like Someone said we're all coming from different places and experiences no matter what perceived level folks are at those levels are tainted by each of our own lives ... i'm rambling hmm? Ok, what i'm saying is ... I like my Ego ... but damn? I'm an Ass (... capitol A) all i can say is Don't forget the "human-factor" that comes into play Sometimes folks are happy other times bitchy, goofy and playful or confused and weepy ... We all have good thinking and self destructive moments in life It's worth watching and listening to each other or ourselves Some fun stuff to be learned i think? So don't mind my big Ego ... i (just) named it Sal and enjoy! Stay well, Shon

Have gone through tough stuff with this body of mine at times and that's just one of those things that makes a big difference. Give thanks also but this is more like syncing things up somehow? With the food and the body. ... seem to have to? works well, don't think of weather to do it or not, just part of life.

mmm. like him. thanks for posting this. would be nice to question him on some stuff. not debate but question. ...like that he talked about the sound am confused by the timeline that gets mentioned with such stuff think it can vary a lot but might just be perspective that varies? that is a spot i'd be interested in questioning someone who practices in such ways as these. thanks again for posting this. Shon

Marketing is a cool science, lol. I don't know if you are a wizard Rain but U R Magic! U make me smile when i'm really just such a crotchety jaded old bitty. ... thank you. *bow* I apoligize if my words had any sharpness to them, it was not intended to be so? But i do carry a sharpness at times. i like the word Shrine reminds me of the quiet places hushed feel of the land that calms a tattered battered soul it's a name i use short for another name that had been given~ Reliquary... in short it means a box of bones... true enough? true enough. I like the feel and sound of Shrine brings others into the picture, people that see the holiness of life. Not as lonely as Reliquary...which seems to just be a cold dark empty box of bones. Shrine has warmth to it, reminds me of a small building on a spring day, with petals falling through the air and the scent of flowers. With it i hear music not distinct but like the songs of the earth its self. i like Shrine. for me there is a comfort there that can be hard to find. a place for a tired soul to rest awhile. Stay well, Shon

Now and now and now. How long does this sweet Love last? Now and now and now.

Ever look into the eyes of somebody "without hope"? Hope(at one level if not all) is a survival mechanism. Without it how many of us would kiss our families goodbye and step off this wildly spinning planet. It is as needed as food, water, or air, at times. Many times I've heard a person say without hope they wouldn't have made it, and had it be true. Their hope was not feeding any hunger unless that hunger was for life. If ones ever given up all hope they know it is a "bad" thing (last straw sortta reaction) Even though it is very Freeing at the same time. It is freeing not because of lack of hope but because next in line is Surrender. One can learn Surrender without giving up all hope though. It can be practiced But it's also one of those things that can be read about, talked about, and debated until faces turn green. But if one hasn't been there they could not really ever know. Experiential. Great topic, thank you Stig. Stay well, Shon *edit because my typing is lacking!!!

Reconciling life and death, How do you do it? Be around it. In all that it is. As much as you can handle. Takes practice, you know, what one can handle? Life and death (which is the same. just as rain is ocean is tears is water. The same.) It's strange how so many people are so far removed from both? To hold a baby, to sit with a grandmother, be it a baby puppy or a cranky old man sitting an a bench, I think these things are important? Evan an hour a week, would bring so many folks into closer contact with Life. Take the time to be around it. See life coming into the world. Plant a garden and watch it grow, pull the weeds, enjoy the fruits, compost! lol feel the dirt under your fingernails! It's good you know? To be alive? To be a part of the cycles of life. How many people never have held a baby, fed it or changed a diaper. ... or pet the forehead of someone who may not see another sunrise. Become a volunteer at hospice. It's always so needed, there are so many who don't have anyone to sit with them. Life is dirty, we try to keep it clean and sterile, we buy our chicken wrapped in plastic and never see the life it was or bother to give thanks in any way? Find a farmer tell him you are interested in helping out if you could come "time". Get your hands dirty with life. Know it as intimately as your soul is able. As for folks that don't dream I know some who don't dream?(or so they say) They are as troubled by the questions of life as much as anyone else. I have some strange beliefs. I believe anyone who drives should be able to build a car (yet, i can't!) I also believe anyone who alive should know what it is that goes into keeping them alive. If you eat a chicken you should be able to know well the egg that was laid and hatched the chick that grew into this chicken and you should also know how it feels to break it's neck. This is your food it was alive. Grow lettuce. Or an apple tree. or make bread. Know what's involved for you to keep breathing. Don't be so disconnected that you think You are the only living thing on this planet Like so many seem to think or at least how they act. (my "you" in all this is a generic you and not intended to be directed at any individual by the way!) Enjoy life! Don't worry, It's a sure thing. We are going to be dead all to soon. Me. You. Every friend. Any enemy. Cat Dog and Bird. Mother, father, stranger, cousin. No matter how long, in the scheme of things, it's not so far away. Lot's a choices to be made within every moment. Chose wisely if you can, and love it as best as able. enjoy life while we can keep breathing. Such a complex simplicity? Thank you for asking and reminding Shonton Ga

Have you read any of his other books? POWER OF NOTHINGNESS by Alexandra David-Neel the name of this one sounds good to me??? *edit* Whoops, sorry for double posting like this!!! ... i like books Thanks for this thread!!!

MMmmm??? Seems to be outta print here abouts? Looks interesting what I could find about it though

Hooray! (3! ) Happy Birthday! WooHoo!

That's great stuff! Have fun! *Gasp!* I can't clean That Fast!!! do wish i could have paid off some debts before cny though prefer to have them all set then. ... maybe next year! Stay well!

because of something called "being human" ? Enjoyed reading that, thought provoking, thank you. Hope you enjoy it here! Shon

M.D.? That Is Just So Wrong! Hi billb! Nice to meet you! Harmoniums are GREAT!!! Should be lots of places in NYC to check them out if you just want to listen and see what they are first before shellin' out a hundred and fifty bucks. Hear them used in Indian music alot. Have been to lots of yoga studios that at least one person there owned one, lol (have some stories about them but won't torture you all with them!) Have a friend in Ny who is a Rabbi who does wonderful Hebrew Kirtans! If your in the city I can let you know someplace he'll be playing. Krishna Das Is a great one to listen to also, know he plays a lot out in NYC. Sanskrita, Hindi, english singing along with it usually. They do have an Incredible feel to them! People use every instrument for "healing". Sometimes the person playing does just have an amazing gift and that's how it manifests. Sounds like it's worth checking out but, personally, if you hadn't heard one played(maybe you have), I'd want to check it out and see if you even like the thing first. If it sounds like fingernails on a chalk board... ... maybe go and find a didge player instead !!! Have fun either way! Shon

Maybe more of the same ... but am always happy to have a new president! No matter what i may have had to say, (am very opinionated you know?) I wish him lots of love and wisdom and a hell of a lot more luck! not a job I'd want anyone I love to have to suffer through? Peace kids! Shon

LOL, Kind of? Wiki says this It's a term that encompasses~ science, medicine, religions and philosophies. It tends to be old ideas and practices (newly discovered by some) that allow people to see things in a more holographic mode rather than "I/Me/Mine". If I went into all that it is I WILL offend Many. LOL, I wouldn't mind that but don't feel like having to keep up on posts with the limited time i get to spend on here! Not many new ideas that I've seen, LOL! Most are very old and have been practiced for ... ever? Most stuff that's heard about is very superficial . Was a post recently about chakras for instance(could of been a good thread?) was mentioning in it the "7 chakras" (He called it in the thread "the 7 house wife chakras", I think, LOL, thought that was great!) Was mentioning how many chakras there really are, inside and outside the body. Hundreds and hundreds! Think how old a science it is! But most folks hear there are 7. Rainbow colored at that! Why? When there so many just focus on a few? There are many Good reasons to! Mostly it is for the learning though, so much easier to teach 7. Then if they start to investigate most folks will realize there is more going on. Start to find more than one spot for the heart chakra, it might be one of the 7 heart chakras or one of those 7's companion chakras... but most folks don't want to go that far into it. For those who don't just knowing the 7 "house wives chakras" is a life time of study in it's self if one wants it to be. LOL, a lot of new age stuff is just simple seeds. Plant them and some will grow deep roots of understanding. Others with fizzle out soon enough! Some grow distorted? Some blow in the wind and produce a plant never expected! These seed make for a good introduction for people. How far they want to go to learn and understand is up to each individual. It's a way for folks to try and find the common thread that connects us all and all to all. No different than what people have always searched for. Conection. Shon

LOL! Oh shoot! This is to hard to not reply to could go on for days and days and days! But this question is rather one sided also lets not forget. So. "So it seems at least to me that people dont like the new age movement. I was wondering what is wrong with it and what are the thought on this board about it?" The biggest problem with most "movements" is when folks get stuck and stop moving. (Not the movement it's self) Lot's of ways to see that. ... and, yup, that's probably how i mean it. Moving forward or back movement is growth. Stay well, Shon

Hello Wenwu Nice to meet you! how long do you spending in meditation? how strict are you on your timing? how do you cope with the times when you just can't get in to it? Hmm? 1. 2 hours of sitting at night seems to be relied upon, then whatever chance allows but some days no (defined) meditation, others times ... for days and nights. depending on the way of things. 2. Am not strict about much of anything goes against this child's beliefs! People are strict(rigid?) enough, figure they might balance me out, lol? does that work? Life is to live, meditation is life and keeps this one going. Simple stuff, that. At time more seems to be needed to keep functioning, when all's well a little less is fine for maintenance. would say there is meditation both daily and nightly,as needed. C. Like mentioned, am not strict... much??? not in time(no sense of it anyway.), not in method. If in the stage of learning something specific practice is more devoted. Have preferred methods that are employed depending on the nature of life but am Not limited in a technique, anything can be a meditation. examples? 2 hours meditation at night tend to have an effect of calming & stabilizing but also allowing me to function the next day since sleep is lacking, at best, that sitting is the supplement . (Innumerable meditations!?!) If not able to hardly stand, feeling like unable to move, or keep going, swallowing the sun works well. If not energy at all(need energy to do that) will take sun directly. When waiting for others tend to sit with a heart mudra, it relaxes the chest, face, neck head, then so much more! Leaves me peaceful rather than feeling ...? Postal? When walking among people (Be aware.) a meditation is to feel them a meditation is to feel the space around them a meditation is to make eye contact and stay centered no matter what is felt within you a meditation is to feel love then let that love be for a person you see, just as they are, just as you are a meditation is to walk through them with forgiveness(damn powerful.) a meditation is to feel your self between the earth and the sky and as practiced observe you own reactions. Observe the reactions around you. Meditation is an endless way of playing with life Have fun with it. Remain curious, it is forever unknown. Shon

Rests my hungry eye. He jumped into the pan to fry! Hear the seagulls cry!!! (am seagull minded lately. It's weird? Might have to go spend time with some tomorrow???)

LOL! Hey? My names seems to be up there ahead of both you guys? Ha Haa!! Would you look at that?!? WooHoo! Thanks Stig! ... um, So what does it all mean then? i don't really post that much??? do I??? I gotta get off this thing, sheesh! and U folks just gotta post more!

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LOL, Sure, sure! The next time I'm in california(never been!) I'll look you up, We'll go get some tea! ... Your standing beside your self??? ... can you see your self? Can understand the energetic part of how to do that but to get down the physical aspect confuses me! ??? (1/2 joking but part serious.) It's been a half arsed contemplation the past month or two for me! Your right there are certain predictable qualities for each chakra. My post was just so when folks say "I've been working with the heart chakra" They'll understand that yes, it will have do do with "love" but each of the 7 will be a little different. Granted with some overlap but still unique. So the experiences will be different depending on what they are up to! Should be a great topic, I agree! Hope I didn't scare folks away?!? Am off to work but will check back on this thread! Stay well, Shon BTW? I don't know anything either! But I sure can be long winded about it all!!! LOL

Used to like Taichido a lot? It's a tai chi site run by Mark Allen, he's in GB, I think? Some good info, used to seem easer to navigate to me???: ) How useful the info is is up to the person looking at it, LOL. Also goes into some Taoist and Buddhist stuff, has links to his other sites. This is a link to a page that has some good little(TINY!) animations might have to click on animation menu? http://www.taichido.com/chi/menunetguide.htm# Good luck in your search! Shon