ReturnDragon

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  1. 58 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

    Proper system. Not easy. can’t be done alone. Needs guidance from qualified teacher.


    Welcome to Earl Grey's Kung Fu academy.


  2. 3 minutes ago, virtue said:

     

    Your pseudo-scholarly proclivity again betrays your fundamental lack of understanding.

     

    De is de exactly like wisdom is the same universal wisdom in all spirituality.

     

    De is universal although we may see highlights of it in filiality and other relations that may usually be thought as being governed by morality. In that case morality is just the conventional expression of de and not a separate instance of it. If a self-ascribed Confucian was acting outwardly moral but without de, then that would just be plain hypocrisy.

     

    There is no separate de in Daoism, Confucianism, and Christianity:lol:Behold, the Christ instructed:

     

     

    It really is the same principle that I have been describing about not being self-conscious about ethics.


    I am sorry of being a Chinese. I know I shouldn't have had learnt how to interpret Chinese classics. I should have learnt from westerners is because they knew it all and better.

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  3. 23 hours ago, thelerner said:

    Any suggestions for some interesting practice, hard but doable thing to learn, while the Virus rages on outside? 

    mental or physical practice. 


    You want to try to do the four corners of the Yang Style Taiji? It can be done repeatedly in one place and exercise holistically.  

    OR it would be less boring try the 24 form.
     

     


  4. 16 hours ago, DodgeFreeman said:

    To avoid sex energy loss, I pull in the qi as I'm ejaculating or before I finish an that works pretty well, I send it to the Lower TanTian an continue my sex session. Then later I cycle it.


    Hi, I am not a young man but you better hear this from an elder man.
    Anytime when you ejaculate, your sex energy is loss anyway. Regardless, what and how you think that you are saving it. It is because your body has to sacrifice one thing for another. The sex energy can be replaced but not to save it while in use.
     

    16 hours ago, DodgeFreeman said:

    An seeing interesting things lately, wondering if they are apart of the cultivation or some mental gunk clearing out. Saw a blue almost neon streak of light that became a marble, then disappeared when a red glowing marble like thing appeared. Both where over my bed while I was about to sleep.

    The third thing we an amorphous shadow that seem to move by my open apartment door fast, then came back an stopped for a minute while I looked at it,then it shot off.

     

    An there's this little smoke thing that randomly shows up, when there's no fire, no incense, no cigarettes lit. It's just like a cohesive bit of smoke that moved around an then disappears on its own. 

     

    Not sure what these weird things are, don't even know enough to guess so any info that'd be great. 

     

    Anyhow, hi. Feel free to message if you young men have any answers.  


    The blue lights that you saw is because they are from your tired eye.
    All those things you saw are hallucinations in your mind due to excessive masturbation. Excessive masturbation can do wonders and play tricks in your mind.
     


  5. 17 minutes ago, waterdrop said:

     

    17 minutes ago, waterdrop said:

    can feng shui change a place so that 1 hour of qigong practice in it is worth 10   hours in another place ? 100 hours ? 10000 hours ?


     

    Feng shui is to determine a suitable place to live based on your birthday. It determines which direction of the house should be facing by your birthday and where is your room should be in that house.

    As far as to answer your question, that would be your wishful thinking. The best place to practice qigong is in the mountains where the fresh air is abundant. 

     

  6. 5 hours ago, virtue said:

    De in the classical sense is doing the right thing without having care for the consequences,


    The description of de(), here, is the virtue of morality(道德) which is the Confucian philosophy.

    In Lao Tze's philosophy: If one has followed the principle of Tao, then, it was said one has the virtue of Tao(道德) .  

     


  7. 21 minutes ago, thelerner said:

    My understanding is Straw dogs are important.  Serving roles during certain temple holidays.  They are not worthless, nor are they long lasting.  People and things, wither, change comes, the new inevitably rises.  During their time, treat worldly things and people with due respect, they all play a role.


    That is only one side of the story. After the ritual ceremony, the straw dogs were tossed on the floor in storage. People might be stepped on them. Kids might play with them. Lao Tze used straw dogs as a carefree item which falls into context of Chapter five.

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  8. Your problem lies on the title of your OP. Unfortunately,  most guys went through this unhealthy habit due to not knowing better when we were young. Eventually, Qigong can cure it if it was done properly and diligently. Yours truly had gone from the worse to the better.

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  9. 3 minutes ago, freeform said:

    Becoming hyper vigilant of your breathing and trying to control it day to day will result in all kinds of issues - like anxiety, palpitations and other problems long term. I know because I’ve done it :)

     

    3 minutes ago, freeform said:

    Once again - contrived breathing of any kind (including belly breathing) shouldn’t be used to change your natural day-to-day breathing pattern. It will cause health and mental issues if done intensively for a long time.

     hmmmm.....
    I have not encountered this kind of problem yet.


  10. 13 minutes ago, NoviceMonk said:

    currently I’m practising 8 brocades twice daily and doing Dan turn breathing while meditating.

     

    is this likely to go away with continued practise as I am a novice.?


    Welcome to the club! You are the second member of the month with this problem joining us.
    Yes, if your have the patience to do it diligently for a long period of time.


  11. 4 minutes ago, Rara said:

     

    I don't think anyone is dispiting the importance of deep abdominal breathing. But we are putting things into context.

     

    Calling something a "waste of time" without knowing the purpose or strategy for teaching is a pretty dismissive.

    Whatever! I don't wish to keep going like this. You just do what you believe. Good luck!

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  12. 1 minute ago, Earl Grey said:


    I was taught this from the beginning, old fart. And you will never achieve what my teachers, me, or my students have, because you cling to your Baidu searches and force them on others, while the rest of us who actually have martial and healing skill can only do our best efforts to steer neophytes away from your deception and disinformation.

    By your attitude, behavior and narrow-minded which had told me alot. Over and out.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

     

    It appears you've never trained with someone who knew what they were doing and love to use Baidu as your teacher. 

     

    Deep breathing happens naturally at a basic level--but oxygen once again is not qi, and you are of course, derailing this thread with more falsehoods. 


    After all that money you spent for your training; and still no one tell you how important abdominal breathing is? You still have not digested what is the meaning of 氣沈丹田? And you are teaching too?

     


  14. 5 minutes ago, Rara said:

    1. Why would someone teach something that is a waste of time? Who says this?

    2. So does this mean you practice taiji with deep breathing too?

    Sorry!
    OK. Well, I am trying to tell you how important that beep breathing is.

    1. For someone might not taught properly and teach to make money.
    2. Yes, of course, deep breathing must be performed at the advance level. The goal is to coordinate the movements with breathing and coordinate the breathing with the movements. That is highest realm a Taiji practitioner wants to attain.


  15. 2 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

    Yes, in ordinary usage, qi can mean oxygen and other gases. That is not what yuanqi is referring to.


    Think about it and try to digest it. If you said it is not, then it is not. Please try not to close the window of wisdom. I am not selling anything here. I am not trying to convince anybody here. Please use your own discretion of what I am telling you with an open mind.

    Have you noticed my signature?


  16. 1 hour ago, salaam123 said:

    thanks for the warning Earl Grey, up to this point his advice has been pretty harmless as far as I know. It seems to be the same what some others teach too, about breathing low. But im not sure if its correct.


    I already told you how to do it. The result won't happen overnight. It takes months and years to correct your breathing problem. I won't comment on what others are telling you. Use your own discretion.

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  17. Please read this post from another site carefully. 
    Ref: http://discuss.yangfamilytaichi.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=650

    Hi All,

    David, let me more or less endorse the previous posts, but make a contribution along slightly different lines for those with even less access to Chinese than I have. Basically, I want to delve a little bit into some of the layers of meaning that Louis mentioned. Most of what I cite below I have unearthed looking through dictionaries.

    While practitioners of Taijiquan usually talk about Qi as if it can only mean “vital energy,” this is by no means the only way it is used in Chinese. One can completely reject the basis of Chinese medicine and Taijiquan theory and still have lots of use for the word “Qi.”

    A major meaning in Chinese is still “vapor,” “gas,” or “air.” One common word for the air in a room is “kong-qi,” which literally means something like the “Qi of open space.” The expression “da-qi” can mean to “inflate” something, like a tire. It can be interpreted as “knocking air (into something).” There are multiple terms referring to naturally or artificially occurring “gas” that use the word “Qi,” such as “du-qi” (“poison gas”), “mei-qi” (“coal or natural gas”), and “qi-qiu” (a “balloon” or “gas ball”).

    From “air,” it is a short leap to the unseen things that appear to move or affect air. The ordinary word for weather is “tian-qi,” which could be interpreted either as the “air of heaven or of the sky” or as the “vital force of heaven or of the sky.” The modern word chosen to translate “electricity” (“dian-qi”) can be interpreted as the “vital force of lightning.”

    In addition to the uses of “Qi” to mean “air,” it also has other extended meanings that refer to ordinary phenomena. It is used in expressions that can be interpreted as “being out of breath (Qi).” To pant is “huan qi,” or to make one’s qi “pant.” “To blow a puff of air” is “chui yi kou qi” (“blow one mouth Qi”). It is also used in some expressions in the meaning of “scent,” such as “xiang-qi”, or the “Qi of perfume.” Again, these concrete meanings can easily merge into things that are more ethereal. “Wok Qi” is the flavor food has when it comes straight from the cooking pot. It dissipates once the food sits around for a while. Perhaps, “losing the flavor of the wok” might be the way to translate this.

    Another ordinary meaning of “Qi” that I can cite is when it is used to refer to the “air,” “manner,” or “aura” people are said to display in certain situations (e.g., “guan-qi,” or “bureaucratic airs”). In English, we might say that someone has a noble “air” about him or her, without necessarily trying to refer to any phenomena outside of Western science. A meaning that is probably related to this one is when “Qi” is used to refer to “spirits” or “morale.” (E.g., “Yang2 qi4” literally means to “have the Qi raised” and can be translated as “to be in high spirits.” “Qi is used in this latter sense in the Yang Style Saber Formula.)

    “Qi” can also refer to “anger,” presumably with associations similar to what “being steamed or steaming mad” has in English. Curiously, the Chinese word for “steam,” although pronounced identically to “Qi” and probably constituting the same spoken word, is written differently. The “rice” component in the character is replaced by an element that means “water.”

    As Louis mentioned in his earlier post, it is not always easy to disentangle all these layers of meaning. An “abdomen filled with Qi” might simply refer to “a stomach bloated with gas,” but probably implies that the flow of vital energy has also gone awry. A “Qi-filled abdomen” can also refer to a practitioner that has filled him or herself with good Qi through long practice. Again, I think that even in this meaning, a physical manifestation would be expected.

    We must also recall that the ancient Chinese had a different view of natural phenomena than we do and so would not have made the same linguistic distinctions we do. In other words, they may have seen the Qi in air, scents, breath, gas, etc. all as different aspects of the same basic thing. The adoption of modern scientific views would not necessarily change either this cultural outlook or the structure of the language. In a similar vein, I have knowledge of a culture that uses the word “medicine” indifferently to refer to “medications,” “pesticide,” “magical amulets,” and “poisons.” If one talks about “being in good spirits,” this does not mean that one necessarily believes in ghosts or the soul.

    Let me close with an expression I recently ran across in my losing effort to improve my Chinese: “Cheng1 yao1 da3 qi4.” This phrase could be crudely interpreted as “Prop up the waist and hit the vapor.” If the meaning of this phrase strikes you as opaque, you have a good excuse. I have deliberately chosen technically correct, but poor translations for each of these words to further illustrate why nuance can be important to meaning and true understanding.

    The phrase really translates loosely as “to bolster someone up.” I will explain it word my word, since each of the four words actually has relevance for Yang Style Taijiquan.

    “Cheng1” means “to prop up or support.” It is the word Yang Zhenduo uses to refer to the “propping” action of the front leg against the thrusting or treading action (“deng”) of the back leg as one shifts the weight forward into a Bow Stance. In the phrase under discussion, this word is probably best translated as “support.”

    “Yao1” is what we normally translate as “waist”; however, as I have posted previously, this word also applies to the region of the lower back. Here the image is of someone supporting another’s lower back to give postural strength.

    The root meaning of “Da3” is to strike. It is the word used to refer to the “open hand strikes” used in Single Whip, Brush Knee, etc. (“tui1 da3” or “push(ing) strike”). This word, however, is very often bleached of meaning and is used in a tremendous number of expressions as a dummy verb to refer to almost any manual activity, from gather firewood to buying cooking oil. In the expression “da Taijiquan,” I think it means something like “do Taijiquan,” or what some translate as “play Taijiquan.” The reason why many translate this word as “play” is apparently because “da” would have this translation when it is used to describe what one does with basketballs, tennis rackets, playing cards, etc. In Chinese, one does not “play” basketball, but rather “strikes basketball.”

    The word “qi” in the phrase under discussion could refer to “air.” In this case, the expression “da qi” would mean to “inflate,” as I mentioned above. The implication would that one is “re-inflating” someone who has become “deflated” in spirit. I believe this instance of “qi” could also refer to “vital energy,” in which case “da qi” could be interpreted as meaning “to give or restore vital energy.” The best interpretation, however, is probably to construe “qi” as referring to “spirits” or “morale,” with the other meanings providing background “color.” “Da qi” would then mean to “lift someone’s spirits.”

    With these clarifications, I could now translate “cheng1 yao1 da3 qi4” in a different, but still literal fashion as something like “support [someone’s] back and strike some spirit” into him or her.

    As for “qi chen dan tian” or “sink(ing) the Qi to the Dantian,” this is about the only overt “manipulation” of Qi that the Yangs talk about. I think that because of the influence of other styles of Taijiquan or of Qi Gong, some Yang Stylists become enamored of esoteric or sophisticated practices to “feel” or manipulate Qi. For Yang Style, I think this unnecessary, because we all have felt Qi to the extent necessary.

    When we slip and first feel our loss of balance, we feel our “heart” rise to our throat and our center of gravity rise. We have trouble breathing as our “breath” or “Qi” seems to feel caught or squeezed in our chest and throat. Our mind focuses on this point and leaves us feeling “tippy” or “top heavy” as we fear or sense an imminent fall. This, as I understand it, is what is meant by the expression “allowing the Qi to rise or to float.” “Sinking the Qi” is merely the opposite of this feeling. We feel for the stable connections that run through our bodies from our upper body to the earth, regardless of the arrangement of our limbs. We can attempt to do this even in the middle of losing our balance.

    As we lose our balance, we have three ways to react. We can ignore the reality of the situation and continue to pour energy into a configuration that is changing catastrophically. This is usually the worst thing to do. Nonetheless, it is usually the originally source of our problem. The earlier we identify that we are pouring energy into a bad situation and that our movements are not based on a correct view of reality, the more options we have to change.

    The second response is to panic as we perceive that reality is not to our liking. We go rigid. We allow our arms to flail around in a vain attempt to restore an equilibrium that is no longer obtainable in that manner. Time appears to freeze in an unfavorable configuration.

    The third response is to try to sharpen our feel for the situation as it is, to change what can be changed, and to let go of the rest. You do not grope for traction that cannot be recovered, but feel instead for the actual state of one’s connection with the ground and what power can still be threaded through the body. If you can still separate full from empty to even a small degree, you are not irretrievable stuck. Even limited traction can provide enough leverage to improve the position of our bodies. Even when no traction is available, the mass of our bodies can still be useful as a source of root to accomplish some movement. This is what a cat does to right itself in mid-air.

    Some styles of Taijiquan and some other martial arts do teach strong manipulation of “Qi.” Such practices may be beneficial with the proper teaching and training, but I do not believe they are integral to traditional Yang Style for two reasons.

    The Yangs often state that their style is richly detailed, but nonetheless essentially simple. In seminars, they have often distinguished aspects of their practice from other those of other arts on the grounds that Yang Style keeps things simple and straightforward. Complicated breathing patterns or visualizations are thus contrary to the flavor of the form they cultivate.

    Another reason why focusing on Qi is discouraged is because the idea in Yang Style is to allow Qi to flow naturally, not to control it arbitrarily. Just as one does not train to control the rate of one’s pulse, one does not train to control one’s Qi flow. The body knows what to do by itself. You merely need to train to get out of its way. As long as you use your mind correctly, the Qi will take care of itself.

    Take care,
    Audi