old3bob

and concepts are not the same as mass and energies that one may come up against...

Some beautiful and meaningful expressions Bindi! There is an intelligence of beauty that breaks the lonely heart with its goodness...

thanks for the considerate feedback ;-)

Obviously there is no particular manifest (in any form) Buddha that exists outside of the manifest or subtle universe, as for Buddha nature that is not bound by the laws of manifestation such does not apply. Thus or anyway for someone in the manifest or subtle universe that walks around saying there is no god or manifest being/universe is incongruently nuts if or while they also walk around profoundly proclaiming or implying there is (or was) a particular manifest Buddha. (outside the laws of manifestation)

I'd say there are general and universal laws across the manifest worlds and Beings, human cultural details do differ as you've said but most humans react to various forms of music in universal ways which is similar how most of us also react to other forms of energy such as with life helping kindness or life destroying violence. We are all built in similar ways biologically and in many other ways energetically. Thus we have far more in common than in differences.

A danger at home that is just nuts! Besides the many hazards one may have around or in their homes like falling trees or a natural gas explosion, there is a new one with several cases of exploding garden hoses causing injury! So next time you re watering your plants by hand, (a sort of spiritual activity) make sure you have a safe hose!

I did not mean or say to extrapolate on what other people may be trying to say, but on the universal aspect of music and how much of mankind reacts to same. (namely with some universal reactions)

Jesus did not say to love or excuse demons or demonic forces or those willfully joining with same whether in deed or in thoughts which is part of what I'm trying to get at..."I send you as sheep among wolves". Btw, Jesus is also referred to as being the "Lion of Juda" along with other powerful people.

read/study of them for yourself if you haven't already done so... I'm not going to play a shell game with you.

Donavon used to live near Joy where "happiness runs in a circular motion, you can everything if you let yourself be..."

lets see, most of mankind has similar reactions to various forms of music which can be said to have a universal aspect to it...so for one that does not fit with your rationalizations... extrapolate the rest if you will?

a while back there was something about certain eye drops causing some serious damage, don't remember the details.

ask to see what correlations there may be in various forms of Buddhism. Btw, any dismissing is in your head. Btw #2 I've already given a few examples in this string of "role models or heroes" that have largely gone ignored or deflected here or there with high stepping or more holy than thou type come backs.

that sure sounds like is a high horse you keep hammering on or deflecting with...Don't you think most of us older folks have come across all of that stuff 40-50 years ago with understandings that are valid for us?

some understand other far reaching things but not a plain as day question

transcendental by-passing doesn't work for dealing with worlds and its Beings...

umm, I never said most of the things you are hitting on except for and in a manner of speaking about the Self showing the Self, and it sounds like you are trying to educate me about those? I take such as well meaning and ok but don't assume everyone is in some kind of a Chinese finger trap.

you chose not to answer my previous question which is telling...

sounds profound but nope for dealing with evil in the manifest worlds, and for a master that has already overcome things within themselves.

ok the 4th line is conditional context and without it the other lines are at least problematic per what I've been trying to get at...

Keep on deflecting... Anyway I'd say most forms of Buddhism (and Bon) have ways and means (aka fierce guardian's) to address evil, evil spirits, etc.. (with no dilly dallying around) Speaking of "eastern" ways what did Rama do with Ravana, to begin with he didn't roll over with niceties'.

Jesus did not use darkness to rid the possessed of darkness, please get in context if you can?

I was surprised the first time I read that toothpaste can be toxic! Its incredible that that can be!

what did Jesus (or what any spiritual master would) do when dealing with evil, to begin with he did not bless it...

does the saying give that presumptive context, btw FOC do you truly understand evil?