old3bob

ok, then I'll raise you three absolutes

I'll see your bet and raise you two absolutes...

an iron fist (if needed) in a silk glove.... an indomitable will, wisdom and a heart of gold, these are also needed to deal with that which would corrupt or destroy the goodness mentioned by Brahma Viharas

true, and if we can't do the so called little things right then we we wont do big things well either...

I'd say the extreme reactionary denial or nixing of politics at this site is more or less baloney... the problem is not politics although how such is discussed can become so. There are aspects of "politics" in various forms in everything, including the air we breathe and the water we drink. (via environmental issues or through politics related to same carried out by mankind) There are politics of various forms in all religions and spiritual ways since mankind is involved. Religions and spiritual ways are not divorced from politics, their leaders and students need the ability to exist safely in this world which is not possible in a vacuum of non-politics among human beings. So I'd say its time to get real on the subject which is really covered/protected by the already existing site guidelines for interactions among members...thus the knee-jerking should stop if someone dares to bring up things that affect all of us...and which may be uncomfortable to some.

good point but I'm talking more about all of us and not just a few of us,

right...

Imo JK was an anti-guru guru which was his form of incongruent hypocrisy...

sounds like more wonderful and enlightened platitude's...

Good news, human madness will actually end on this Earth when this Earth becomes/evolves into more like a heaven for then madness/adharma will not be able manifest upon Her, as for other human/soul type habitations or worlds where madness can still manifest that is above my pay grade.

I'd say when most of humanity evolves enough it will about end...at least on the Earth. most of humanity know all the wise sayings, but alas....

yea that is an age old saying...

Star Trek, "Strange New Worlds" is taking for ever for a new season to be released! Btw a past episode had the whole crew come under a singing spell for communication, it was quite unique and entertaining.

intermediary processes and teachings have a place and order, (granted such can become corrupted and go awry) but the deeper meaning is they help and have the keys to unlock that which is inside a student for the student, since a true helper has unlocked the same within themselves....without that they too would be bound up somewhere within mind stuff.

In (more esoteric) Christianity God actually reaches out to humans through Jesus Christ. In Hinduism God actually reaches out to humans through (true) Satguru. In American native ways God as (great Spirit) and Grandmother and or Grandfather reach out to humans through all of life that is sacred.

" "I said I wouldn't be morally troubled by it, but yes, I do think that there are points in which the morally 'right' thing to do is to cause suffering..." Paradoxal The "Right" thing to do is not to swallow such dark crap!!

people can have reams of hard proven, undeniable facts covering a wide array of issues from reliable and respected sources or from first hand witness's about what a perpetrator has repeatedly gotten away with over for a long periods of time. Such facts are far more than what should not just to be written off as opinions or tit for tat banter, why - because a great number of people, places and things have been seriously harmed, yet the perpetrator has never really been held accountable!!

sounds like you described Osho in Oregon... btw it also sounds like you are grinding a big ax?

um, no.

just testing 1, 2, 3, testing 1 ,2, 3 seems to be working today, although approval need is still in force ;-)

ok, that's the dualistic take,

I'd say what differentiates us is our individual and unique souls, but when soul merges with God then that unique soul (of woven light) no longer exists, for then there is only "God"... same as when a unique drop water merges into the ocean then there is only the ocean...anybody ready to give up being a super duper and still individual soul identity?

A "constantly" from me is not so, Jesus Christ.

Their days are numbered and they know it but are having a hell of a horrific time !! (of fear, malice, mayhem and murder)