old3bob

and of course Advaita Vedanta is only one of the many schools that range from A-Z in Hinduism (so to speak) and thus does represent all of Hinduism as some seem to take for granted.

not the same when or if written off as or bound in illusion.

well I'm no expert but I'd add free of karma and any mental or emotional form of conditioning...

That of course is your take Stirling, (thus a form of or general meaning per much of Buddhism?) Other non-Buddhist schools recognize the transcendent as being transcendent to (for instance not bound by) although at the same time also being part of or the manifest. ("goes far" and a "return" but also never really left, to paraphrase some sayings in Taoism)

nope, but the wicked witch of the west monkeys did take some bites out of me along my way on the yellow brick road.

in the 60's we'd say, "far out dude", which is still applicable in 2025

when i was in 2nd grade our school bus had a route through some desert area where it ran over a Gila monster; its dead body supposedly got stuck between the dual wheels at the back of the bus but we were kept far away from getting a closer look to verify that. Anyway the event was talked about in awe and speculation for several days among us as to whether or not it it survived the run over and might still be around to bite one of us.... yikes

good one but it doesn't sound like that would work with a short haired cat but with thick furred Persian-yes...also the story has parable potential.

I'm not familiar with many Buddhist sayings but a tangent on to the " two truths' saying my take would say awareness of the apparent and of the not-apparent at once.

human beings and I'd say all other types of created beings evolve, devolve or change... Spirit/Buddha nature/The Self/or your preferred term/ do not. But with beings that are going through particular changes one could say there are changing levels, states, or phases. Imo such is depicted in the Tibetan wheel of life. Cryptic like sayings about the absolute have different strokes for different folks.

I'd say our mind aspect is dual and may know duality very well, namely down to the finest points but not non-duality which is beyond such...thus certain methods or certain masters can not force their way or their students to the "beyond" or past the threshold reached by wholesome practice, good fortune and balanced karma (which granted is extremely important) and then nail same down with the mind aspect. For That which can "know" without a shred of doubt already is and knows beyond regular knowing that can not be added to or taken away from or found in the mind aspect.

What is the motive? Is there an attachment to the idea of something "inexplicable"? There is that saying along the lines of being careful of what you wish for...(and that which could be unexpected)

? "never say never"

rumor has it a new "Stargate" show may be in the works...

The potential and or actual dangers of spiritual paths (including forms of Buddhism) gone wrong have been spelled out here before.... (with many examples being shared by many members over the years) Btw. I don't see non-acknowledgement of that as being honest for anyone that has been at this site for awhile, etc.

various people have been sharing some of "dangers" at this site for many years, I'd say that many have noticed such when brought up (now and then) and have sometimes offered advice, help or warnings as best they can.

nope, just mean to say that lovely quotes won't really cut it when (or if) one is dangling somewhere, yet they do have a purpose not to be denied. Btw if one does not know of the dangers then I'd say one will meet such sooner or later.

thus a contrivance of non-contrivance or bypassing, many here could also state or quote all sorts of transcendent stuff but such doesn't really cut it...and which can be dangerous for new and even some advanced students.

transcendental type ramblings and throwing the baby out with the bath water, what the hell?

do the teachings of the historic Buddha have meaning to you?

then again the historic Buddha did speak of meaning as being important.

I can think of better things passing by than a bus regardless of its color... btw, no need to go get lost in a nihilistic sounding variation via a hologram when the happiness of right dharma at all levels is here, there and everywhere.

could be many years of talk and who knows how many thousands of bucks in cost, along with having someone who may or may not be safe in digging around in our heads, is such natural?

one has to wonder at times....