TheCove

Stop feeding the troll.

"Only a Fool lives just once"

Silver woven thread

weaving in the eternal

moment of no thing

- A Fool

My advice is to be creative.

Simplicity swims in Chaos.

Correct use of Tarot...

I do not like the concept.  It is interesting to learn how it has been used of course.  But a 'correct' designation seems to be missing the inherent quality of the deck as thing of itself.  But that is my taste.

I recall doing a spread that indicated conflagration and sudden strife on a quiet boat in Amsterdam all alone in front of a gas/oil stove with candles on it.  Unwise to place cup candles on the stove.  Lady at the time comes home, notices the danger, exclaims and yells  we both struggle to slide them off onto a plate, some fall onto the stove, ignition.  Fire and screams.  Throw  blanket over stove, look down and consider the cards laid out on the floor burning and smile.  The cards were unharmed it was the paraffin.  I like Tarot. 

2 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Fun, isnt it ?

 

here you go ... here is some source material about the idea of True Will that Crowley proposed , the subject that Mskied seems to be having great trouble trying to navigate .

 

I think Crowley picked it up ( and complicated and obscured it ) from his and the GD studies in 'Chaldean Magic' .

 

Its pretty simple - one just has to see his idea of 'The True Will' as the Zoroastrian  '  khvarenah ' ;

 

http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/overview/index.htm#khvarenah

Thank you for the link, will peruse it.

On 14-10-2019 at 3:29 PM, rideforever said:

Where does my gas bill comes from then ???

Answer me that !!!

 

 

Gas....

Gas that comes from a stove is odorless in its natural state.  The gas company add a smelly chemical so that we may know when there is a leak. 

So let us say that the odorless gas, before it's adulteration by a smelly chemical is that great and grand All Soul of Everything.  You cannot smell it, you cannot know it.   All we know is what we can smell and what we CAN smell is that smelly chemical and nothing more. And what, by god, do you think that smelly chemical is?

In my experience when faced with open hostility I tended to either deflect or let it pass through.  Anger taken in from another can have a weakening affect,  well it has weakened me.  This of course, can trigger the fight or flight response.  But I hated giving in to common reactive patterns so often I would do my best to acknowledge the person and their energy but hold,  or try to hold control of my own reflexive energy.  Always more options that way. So I would say empowerment comes from keeping a equilibrium even when ones ingrained response demands otherwise.

I word this wrong, but that is my two cents.

57 minutes ago, Vajra Fist said:

Buddhist mantras, as far as I understand it, are considered to be the essence of that particular Buddha. As such, all of them can lead to enlightenment, but all of them have different side benefits on the way there. For instance the Mani will generate great compassion, while the Medicine Buddha mantra will heal illness. The Tara mantra will lend you fearlessness etc. These are the different aspects of enlightened activity that these Buddhas represent. But the end goal is the same. 

 

I have no idea why they work as they do. I believe that perhaps the sound has a particular vibration which corresponds to a particular energy. But it's way beyond my ken. It's enough for me to know they work.

Thank you for your insight.  It helps me formulate my intent with this better.

I am considering the difference between will and empowerment.  I am reading an old book about esoteric Shinto from around 1900, there was a passage that struck me:

"Consciousness is still held by most people to be a noumenon ornoumel phenomenon; mind being conceived by them to be something quite apart from brain,  and this in face of the self-evident concomitance of the two.  Now when we scan this distinction for an underlying difference, we find it to be due solely to man's desire for distinction.  To put it unflatteringly, it is nothing but part and parcel of our innate human snobbery."

and this, even if it is mildly off topic:

"When we have , as we say, an idea, what happens inside us is probably something like this: the neural current of molecular change passes up the nerves, and through the ganglia reaches at last the cortical cells and excites a change there.  Now the nerve-cells have been so often thrown into this particular form of wave-motion the they vibrate with great ease.  The nerves, in short, are good conductors, and the current passes swiftly along them, but when it reaches the cortical cells, it finds a set of molecules which are not so accustomed to this special change.  The current encounters resistance, and in overcoming this resistance it causes the cells to glow.  This white-heating of the cells we call consciousness.  Consciousness, in short, is probably nerve-glow."

I will take nerve-glow over noumenon ornoumel phenomenon everytime.

*I realize above quotes are a bit dated, but quite fun none the less.

OK, will get it when I can, thanks again.

Thank you.  I came across:  Om Swami - The Ancient Science of Mantras Wisdom of the Sages ,  for "free"  as an epub.

I will look into it that one unless it is no good?

Most amusing...

Greetings,

I am curious about Mantras.

Would it be correct to consider them having strength because of the many through out the ages empowered them so?

Would be correct to consider them having strength because the tones reflect universal vibrations of reality?

Also what are some good three or four syllable ones?

I would like to use them for stillness and clarity.  My mind can go very fast and in many directions, this gets tiresome.

Thank you for any info.

TheCove

Just now, Earl Grey said:

You only fail if you quit. Keep on trucking.

Thank you, and I surely do.

Had something also, broke me for a year,  and kept me at the bottle for many years; after the healing the major damage.  But that has nothing to do with any system mentioned here.  Probably why it went so bad for me.  Reckless fool.

2 minutes ago, ralis said:

 

The problem I have with so called "True Will" is that according to Crowley et al., the "True Will" is revealed by the conversation with ones Holy Guardian Angel (HGA) which is an arduous task of peeling away psychic conditioning and so forth. The idea put forth by the OP is that the matter is simple with no work required at all. Point being is that when any serious work of this nature is conducted, psychic forces are unleashed and the ensuing result for most is the inability to handle such forces. This is not kiddie play!!

Yes, have read about that.  Hardcore stuff, I have done some spiritual mountain climbing but not of that nature.  Is it similar to the Enochian one?  By Abramelin  the Mage?  Sorry for my clumsy citation.

Sycophantic,  Sisyphian...

You use great words, had to look up Sisyphian.  Wish sycophantic meant something else, would like to call myself a Sycophant.  Hm, maybe I am...

Indeed, I already presumed this was the case.

The underlying motivation becomes all the more important.  Even if it is dreadfully simple.

In the past I used to drink and post stuff that would be torn apart or wondered at by it's dramatic nonsense with a hint of wisdom here and there.  It was mostly garbage, but there were a few gems in the mud.  Reading this thread reminds of how people reacted to me back then.  What and why I wrote what I wrote was different but the pattern of response is similar.

I must say I am impressed by the general civility of the people on this forum it is refreshing to see.  Mskied seems  to be defending his right to portray his belief system as he sees fit,  and several of you point out the  flaws in his efforts.

I may sound like a sesame street episode, but would it not be prudent to find the commonalities shared and go from there?  Mskied may be in error in the nature of his communication, but it seems to be the only way he can do so.  To constantly parse his words does not seem to be helping with clarification.  It might be better to focus on the underlying theme of his words rather than the errors within them.  Even though it might be more enjoyable for you all to do the later.

Thank you.

Pure unconcentrated  thought seems prudent.

Well, I think ascension would be better considered as a spiritual happening and that one could still be in corporeal form while being in such a state.  I am by no means near that nor wish to be at the moment.  I am basing that observation on the stories of old recording the actions of those considering the "big boat" side of things. I have read of those who have achieved a certain point in there spiritual journey and instead of continuing on into whatever  prescribed nirvana presented to them, they refuse it so that they may stick around and help others on their own paths.  The "little boat" being for those that consider their spiritual journey and eventual ascension a goal sufficient upon itself.

I like the big boat idea better.

Greetings, by the way, I am new here.   I may be talking about obvious stuff for some you, but it popped into mind my while reading this thread. 

Hello,

                Used to post often years ago on various occult related forums as either TheCove or deadmanspoint.  Am a bit more on the clearer side of the weather now.  I take a rather contemplative approach to this area of things.  My practice is one of enjoying simple acts and experiences.  This is difficult for me.  But that same difficulty makes it interesting.

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