OverseerFeatheredImmortal

Thanks for enlightening me, people. I delved into this issue before and again the waves drowned me to the point that I am here.

 

I forgot the essence of my own life and wallowed in my lack of personality. Thank you for taking your time waking me up from this cycle of self mental abuse.

 

I have not yet recovered from the demons currently haunting me, but your response is not wasted for you atleast my will has been ignited.

Good day guys. It's been 3 years since my last visit. In this 3 years, I lost many people. Some died and some went a path different from mine. I had been depressed during these times, but still keeping my dao intact albeit being chased by my demons.

 

Recently I've been addicted to certain genres like swapping of girlfriends in the adult manga section and had been slapped by one of the scenes there. It is when a better guy made the beta guy's girlfriend happier than him. Y'know typical cuckold that happens in the real world.

 

It just hit me, that when a man is at his lowest, the most painful kick to be received is a kick from a loved one. Especially if that kick leads you to the abyss. These kinds of stories do not usually swallow me, but through that I remembered the circumstances of my family. My parents when through (they did not swap though. Just divorced.) the same and I can't help but sympathize with my dad. Well he I cant say he is not at fault as well, but it seems to be more painful to be kicked at your lowest moments.

 

I am afraid of having a relationship for reasons that

1.) I am afraid to meet a woman that might kick me when I'm at my lowest

2.) I feel inadequate. I got a mediocre dick, I am not a rich guy and my social connections are limited

3.) I am afraid to meet a woman that has special kinks I couldn't provide

4.) I am afraid of love.

 

Please help me... I don't know what kind of help I need. I just want someone to talk to.

Goodevening Guys. I am here to inquire about something. Is it possible for Qi to coincidentally affect a person's body movements?

In my early meditation, I don't really have knowledge on qigong forms and all I do is lower dan tian breathing. I could also say that until now, all I do is the basics.

 

When I first felt something, I randomly moved my body (hands, waist, head, neck, arms, elbow and any part of my upper body cause I am sitting). That is how I felt my body should move because of the freakin' vibrations on my body. 

 

Recently while browsing here, I stumbled upon the term "Flying Phoenix". The name is just cool so I looked into it.

 

As I searched, I saw a Terrence Dunn video on youtube. As I saw his movements (upper body), I was shocked that the movements I thought that was random, was actually a real qigong stance, especially SOME hand movements. The only thing I am not certain of is that if I got the breathing patterns correctly. Also, some of my movements are the same, but the sequence of movements is not in proper order.

 

So the question is, Is it Coincidence that I did those moves? Could Qi, possibly move a person's body?

 

note: I am not a master nor a veteran. I am simply asking because I humbly admit that my knowledge is scarce. One thing I am sure of is, I am not a poser. I clearly want to learn and gain insight.  .

 

video reference:

 

Hello guys. My name is Jun Yu Xian. Lately, I accumulated various materials and references so I decided to compile them and share them with you. This is free of course or you could also lend me some of your learning materials.

 

But!! A Very big but, before practicing the instructions enclosed in these books, please enquire first or have a proper teacher. I just compiled these materials and I can not guarantee the legibility or the safety of these techniques. Practice will be at your own discretion.

 

The materials in this link are mainly related to martial art forms and yang style taijiquan qi gong and other forms. It is a mixture of things and is not organized YET.

 

Link: Jun Yu Xian Repo

47 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

Twinnings has its own issues with the tea estates in Sri Lanka but is slightly better than Lipton. As for the teabag you have, this is dragon well green tea.

Senior Grey, dragon well green tea? Is that the name of the tea I am holding on the latter pic?

So my mom bought this tea (Twinings Wild Berry), guys. Is it good? I tasted it, the taste is high tier and theres no acidic after taste like lipton, but it has lesser spirit than my fav tea (not lipton, but something written in chinese.)

 

Below is the chinese green tea (my fav).

I hope you dont mind guys that I am frequently posting threads on inqueries. I hope it doesn't bother you.

 

So awhile ago, I meditated after drinking tea. While I was doing the usual meditation, tension gathered on my lower spine. Then everytime I slowly invest air on my dantian, the tension transfers upward like its travelling through my spine. The tension leaves from one section and transfers to the other. Whenever I do reverse breathing though, the tension goes downwards.

 

Sweat is induced from the tensed area too. BTW it does not hurt, its just tensed.

 

Note: please notify me if I posted on the wrong topic.

1 minute ago, idiot_stimpy said:

Kundalini?

What is kundalini??

What is up guys. I am back for another beginner inquery. 

 

So this just happened awhile ago.

 

I was coughing and my lungs seems to be clogged with some sort of liquid. I am aware that my condition is related to an abrupt change in weather. 

 

So, I decided to sip a cup of tea (Lipton - still researching for a better alternative or organic tea) 11:50-ish at night. After finishing my tea I made sure to feel it inside. Well nothing supernatural, just exagerating my cup 'o tea.

 

Then I tried to meditate for a bit. I did the usual sitting meditation. Breath through my nose conservatively, deeply and efficiently.

 

I only maintained my posture for 8 or so minutes, but within those 8 minutes it is not the lower dantian which I am supposed to cultivate reacted.

 

Energy travelled upwards. No pressure on my head though, but something weird is accumulating on my whole head. 

 

My mind is super clear. The thoughts halted. I am aware but I am not thinking. I am observing, but not presuming.

 

It felt so good. Maybe it is because of the tea, I dont know.

 

I opened my eyes and even though it is open I feel like I am not using my eyes. How could I say so? Because I dont feel the soreness of my eyes seconds ago. And it seemed to feel that these are not my eyes.

 

My eyes are opened, but I don't wanna close it during my meditation. It seems that something feels off whenever I close it. Like the stream of energy stops as I close my eyes. 

 

The downside of this experience is that some parts of my body ache (due to my posture), because again the energy seemed to focus on my head instead of my whole body.

 

I hope it is not jist because of the tea.

 

BTW I'll start the qigong mailed to me by taichibasics.com.

 

Edit: BTW my yin tang accupressure point(googled it) felt weird to. Before whenever I press it, a stabbing and pointy feeling arouses on it making my head and eyes calm. Now pressing it makes no difference. It is beating too.

On 10/7/2019 at 6:28 AM, Ancestor Paul said:

If you don’t eat vegs, then maybe you could have herbal teas daily since it’s easier to get the nutrients the same way. Are you buy chance a tea person?

yes I am, but mostly I could only afford lipton tea bags which is a commercial brand. I am even planning to cultivate my own tea leaves.

7 hours ago, Ancestor Paul said:

What diet do you currently eat and what is your current state of well being?

Well I am a protein/fatty food guy. I barely eat veg, but if it is ideal then I would eat.

That is what a taoist should be. A noob. The challenge is how to remain a noob with multitudes of knowledge hurled at you.

Good day guys. Jun Yu Xian again for another beginner's inquery.

 

Please suggest a diet that could help me in cultivation and also would help me make my body fit.

 

Note that I am not neglecting workout. I just want to want to eat something healthy. 

On 30/09/2019 at 7:09 PM, Earl Grey said:

Free doesn’t always mean money. Sincerity, effort, and character can help you. What country are you in and what do you hope to accomplish with your prospective internal practices?

I am from Philippines senior Grey. The secondary goal for practice is for Martial Arts, Longevity and if Magic is real then why not. Primary goal is to practice the discipline and become a better and real person that I should be without the shackles of other people.

 

TBH, I was inspired by chinese cultivation comics, but I know daoism is more to it than what I could comprehend from the comics so I am here wanting to find my way.

On 01/10/2019 at 1:41 PM, Zork said:

That is what probably happened. The question is "what to do next?". With no proper guidance there is no way to use it or progress.

 

@OverseerFeatheredImmortalthere is no such thing as a free lunch. The book the idiot above keeps mentioning is corrupt and dangerous for everyone. It won't help you at all in your progress and it will cause qi deviations (by the way these are REAL things, check the forum).

Look at this for example:

Is this imaginary like the former poster wants you to believe? Why does he offer free guidance? Isn't that suspect?

 

It is my duty to inform you of bad practices but what you do after that is up to you entirely.

Thanks for the warning senior Zork. I almost practice something dangerous. I will also avoid the random breathing techniques I created. My knowledge is still lacking.

 

I am a poor guy so maybe the access to better resources could wait. But if anyone is willing to lend me resources, my soul would forever be thankful. 

On 02/10/2019 at 4:55 AM, Nintendao said:

 

I wonder if a lot of us often mistake orange/sacral chakra energy for lower dantian. Say the famous location "two or three inches below the navel," was from medical texts. Picture you're the patient lying on their back, on the table — below from the examiner's point of view is really behind relative to your navel. All too many new to qi work go searching for a sensation below the navel, toward the gonads, rather than behind, toward the spine. Even if never done qi cultivation, one can usually stir up some really energetic feeling in the sacral chakra, thus equating arousal to real qi, which may lead to many setbacks eventually.

Senior Nin, so Dan Tian is not really located below Navel, but behind? Well I kinda feel something like a stone whenever I breath out, but it is not that deep. And it is the cause of heat like pouring tea in my belly. 

 

BTW I could not induce breathe to the direction of my gonads. Knowing that it is not the real dantian direction makes me feal relief.

On 01/10/2019 at 11:05 PM, voidisyinyang said:

 

As I explain in my free pdf in my signature - the "false" lower tan tien is the commonly considered "Ocean of Qi" which is the yin qi energy to be filled up. The Neidan "real" lower tan tien is BEHIND the navel - as Chunyi Lin points out and also as Wang Mu points out - and the pdf explains how this misunderstanding came to be about where the lower tan tien is. (sorry if I didn't give the proper P.C. authentic spelling of any Chinese dialect words).

Hello senior void. I am interested in that pdf of yours. How may I obtain a copy of it. That is exactly the answer to my question. Thank you.

3 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

Not only that but there are several good teachers who do teach online, such as Terry Dunn and John Dolic.

 

The problem is, even with that option, people don’t feel that they should pay to learn these skills for health or neigong and yet think the best techniques for good health or martial power should be free. 

 

Cry me a river.

 

Edit: not directed at thelerner or OP. Just in general for users here trying to find free stuff that some of us sacrifice a lot to get.

I am still a university student so only I could rely on free materials or other peoples experience. 

 

Good things are not free so maybe I should wait till I get a decent job after graduation.

 

5 hours ago, Zork said:

Without a specific practice and no teacher you are in danger of experiencing qi deviations.

Anyways thanks for the advice. BTW please explain what a Qi deviation is. I am quite new to this, seniors.

8 hours ago, Zork said:

Taoist yoga.

By the way it is better to talk with your teacher about your experience and not random people on the internet.

I do not have a teacher though. 

6 hours ago, Zork said:

Just some advice. Leave that book alone. It isn't useful at best and harmful at worst.

Which one senior?

On 27/09/2019 at 2:40 PM, OverseerFeatheredImmortal said:

It felt quite hot like a bowl of soup directly flowed inside my abdomen. I also felt some tingly feeling on my lower back.

BTW the hot feeling was not from below my navel. But on the upper abdomen. Meanwhile, below my navel I only felt compression and a bit of stabbing feeling. It is really hard to breathe down there, so I am skeptical.

On 27/09/2019 at 9:09 PM, voidisyinyang said:

 

There is a qigong book from the 1950s in China - the title slips me at the moment - and it is a memoir of a young man who had the same experience as you. He just went deeper with it. I had that same experience when I was 29 and then I fasted for a week while meditating the whole time - this opened up the qi channels and so I got to the Yuan Qi enlightenment experience. This is described in the book Taoist Yoga: alchemy and immortality - it's a free read online.

So at first you get heat in the lower tan tien and then the kidneys will feel boiling hot. Then the thymus gland of the heart will get hot. Finally the pineal gland will get real hot. Then the real Yuan Qi energy will kick in - after you have a full body yin qi experience. This training is also well described in the book "Tao and Longevity" by master Nan, Huai-chin. Both those books are free pdfs online.

https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Tao-Longevity-by-Huai-Chin-Nan.pdf

So this is a brief concise book - that goes over the physiological changes before the Yuan Qi is activated. I did not read this book until AFTER I had the experiences and it matched it perfectly.

https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Taoist-Yoga-Alchemy-and-Immortality.pdf

So with the Taoist Yoga book - the idea is that you want to leverage that strong heat in the lower tan tien as a sign of your jing energy built up. Consider it like a "rocket booster" that is then cast off as you go out into space and now you will be charged by space directly - the qi energy.

So the jing is like amplitude while the qi is based on frequency of the energy - that is why fasting and more meditation then turns that strong heat into qi - as long as you follow that books instruction. Also you need to keep doing standing meditation - I have the details in my free pdf below in my signature.

So I did not know this info when I first did my training - so I did not keep building up the Yuan Qi. Instead I had some very powerful experiences and then I "fell out of enlightenment" as I stopped training. Then I still had a permanent third eye opening due to http://springforestqigong.com sending me energy. So then I did free healing - and I still do free healing but it is just "yin qi" energy. So I still have a permanent taste of yuan qi in the third eye but I don't build it up. I can still build it up if I choose to do more serious meditation as I do sometimes.

 

So to get to that stage then you need to get to chapter six of the Taoist Yoga book.

Thanks for the sources. They will be helpful for me.

Good day guys. I am your fellow Daoist Jun Yu Xian. In this thread, I have an inquery.

 

This past few days I have experienced something while doing breathing exercises. I felt some heat in my abdomen.

 

I don't know if it was the Dan Tian. It felt quite hot like a bowl of soup directly flowed inside my abdomen. I also felt some tingly feeling on my lower back.

 

I continued to remember the feeling. My mind was just observing the feeling and no other thoughts are running in my mind.

 

I felt so light like I emotions were shut off from my senses.

 

It felt so good then I tried my made up qi gong movements (TBH just random movements cause I dont really know Qi Gong). Vibrations were being manipulated from my shoulders to arms to hands and palms to my fingers. 

 

The feeling that travelled through my hands were synonimous to vibrations from a portable massager set in low.

 

That is cool. Suddenly My skin felt numb especially the muscles on my head and upper chest.

 

Please explain to me what is this feeling supposed to be.

 

The only place where I cant transmit vibration is on my lower half because I am on a sitting meditation position.

10 hours ago, tao stillness said:

Feathered friend I think you can find a lifetime of the materials you seek on YouTube. But you might be better off starting with some kind of teacher to help guide you through unfamiliar territory. 

I would love to have a mentor though. If you could suggest anyone, I would love it. I also need resources (legitimate ones), but everytime I seek for, each comes with exorbitant price. That is just so sad :'( I am just a student.

Good day guys. My self-proclaimed Daoist name is Jun Yu Xian. I don't know if it is the right Chinese translation of Overseer Feather Immortal. I used google translate and find one-syllabled characters. This name speaks to me though as if it is attached to my soul. 

 

I am a beginner in Taoism. I view Taoism as a belief and a discipline. I have not fully immersed myself in the wisdom yet, but once I do I want to do something with it.

 

I lack the cultural background to practice the arts that were derived from Daoist principles. It might be hard to fully know the essence of the skills, so once I fully realized the Daoist principles, instead of practicing the derived arts, I would like to derive my own based on the wisdom I cultivated.

 

Anyways that is the plan. On the other hand, to be honest I just read about cultivation and Daoism from Chinese comics. At first, I find it cool to learn gazillion skills in martial arts and magic, but when I further delved into the topic of Daoism, I finally found something that speaks directly to me.

 

I have always been a passive person. I like to observe and not to meddle. I love to do nothing and do many things (ambiguous right?). I am quite ambiguous. 

 

Anyways, the derivation of a new Daoist art is a long journey, so if anyone who has Wudang Kung Fu, Sword, and Taiji materials please send it to me HEHEZ. Lots of love.

 

-Jun Yu Xian