waterdrop

2 minutes ago, freeform said:

you probably have some shortened muscles and tension in your inner thighs and probably your hip flexors. It’s very common. 

  so why would the pain be in the knee than as response to the butterfly stretch ?



i wonder should i try to do wuji than now ?  and if not when i should give it a try ? 

if i do all the stereches with awerness  and not hold them long   -  than would you say the more streches  (as in the more different places streched)   the better  ?   .... or its a complicated thing where you can over stretch an area and by that causing disbalance ?  ...  (cause if that is the case it seems you need to be an expert before you start to stretch (

 

thanks for replies  -  so just to make it clear  - you are not sure why specifically butterfly stretches caused me pain in knee even though they are suposed to fix it ? 

would you say i should go by the route of just googling  "hip opening stretches"    and just do them all ?  

i would love to hear more about  : 

Quote

Yes standing can fix postural issues - but Qi needs to move, and if it can't move because you're bound up, you can't get that 'self-fixing process' to start. You never really stop stretching (because you lead a life and your body will always become bound up by whatever posture you hold most of the day).

so standing can fix posture issues ?  what about sitting meditation ?  

I wonder how will i know i have reached the self fixing stage  ?

 
also  - would you say i should wait with all stretches until i fix this knee issue ?  cause maybe for example i just do many streches than i can do the opposite of opening the hip in some way ?

 

I also wonder getting how much posture is important   -  than how things went  for qigong teachers in the past  - did they correct a lot of students postures  -  for example if someone came with knocked knees did they first gave him many exercises to fix their posture   ?  cause i seen somewhere you cant correct all stuff in wuji stance  so in that case would seem that qigong teachers if their good knew exactly how to fix many imbalances in the body and had some ways cause i dont think they used all the   that you can see todaylike using bands etc

You think that alone can fix knocked knees ?

i tried to do butterfly stretch but it really cause me pain in the knees ....  which i dont understand why -if its a hip opening exercise why it causes more pain ?

i also wonder if sleeping in "Bound Angle Pose"  can help  - its easy for me to do i sometimes do it for comfort a few seconds at night  i wonder if sleeping like that can help  -  or if i will wake up with really messed up knees cause its like doing a butterfly stretch  all night  

i have Knee Valgus / knocked knees  / inward turning knees   issue  -  not something really extreme but enough to cause some problem in for example wuji stance

i wonder if there is a way to fix this - cause i dont want to see a PT at the moment    (wont cause of corona  and also in the past i went many times to different issues  without  success)

when i practiced zhineneg qigong  -  i was told 2 things  -  1 that doing 100 wall squats a day would heal any problem (asked about this here in different thread and apperantly the answer is its not true  https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49918-what-are-all-the-benifits-of-wall-squats/?tab=comments#comment-902301

and  was told by someone else there (not a teacher but advanced student) that if i stand in three  centeres merge stance  - my posturue will correct itself 

So  base on that insperation  - i would like to hear peoples opinion on the matter     :    if they have some solution (execpt to  say to go to see a PT)  "traditional"  ones  -  meaning western solutions exercises etc 

or they have some taoistic solutions  like  stand in this specific stand for  2 hours a day and problem will fix itself by itself  -  do Y  for 30 minutes and it would fix itself  etc 

in short im asking :  1. do you have a solution (of any kind qigoong realted or westeren related etc)  to knocked knees  2 .  do you have some "magic"  one all solution like stand in X position and you will fix your posture intuitively etc

Does this teacher and what he says is legit or not :  https://www.clearstaichi.com/blog/dont-make-the-lower-dan-tien-mistake-6076.html 

?

The criticism i read about astrology  is that predicting the future to someone can affect his future 

so if you say to him he will get ill and he strongly believes it can increase the chances of him getting ill   

so i wondered about it  - cause i dont know much about astrology   and  less about i ching  -  but if it also predicts the future to people in the way of saying  "you will get ill"    and by that increase the chance of that even described to come into reality

I read somewhere (reality transurfing)  against astrology  - as in predicting the future  cause they talk their how beliefs can create reality - and if someone is told he will die or get ill  just the fact he belives in it raises the chances it will really happen   :     so is i ching predicting ones future ?    if so i assume it has the same problems "westren"  future predictions has in the sense that i described above ?

No but i dont think its a posture thing (im working on my standing posture  - so if that is the problem it would be fixes i think) i changed position and there is a better one but it still does not go away completely

I get pain in the sitting bones when i sit on a chair - also a bit cushioned one  ( i dont like sitting on a pillow cause than it causes other problems)   -  does anyone know the reason for this ? or even knows a solution (apart from saying to sit on a cushion)  ?      is it that  i dont have enough fat or muscles in the butt ?  that dont seem likely and not the case judging  appearance  but maybe it is ?  i sit up right

When they talk about "transmuting"    -     from what to what ?     ( when you practice qigong for example - what are you suppose to transmute to what ?  )

after seeing this video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiYOHjli80

is the goal to get yuan shen or yuan jing or yuan qi ?   or all of them  (make are qi,jing,shen become their respectable yuan versions) ?

got it  - to sleep from  11 to 3 am     -  that is the wood cycle time

Just to make sure i need to be in deep sleep  at 11pm   until when ?

or just to be in deep sleep at the liver section (not all the wood phase) of  1-3  AM  ?

I would like to hear people opinion about sleeping and waking time  ...  as opposed to a discussion about how much to sleep  (but if someone wants to add about how much sleeping time they think is best and why -  that is a plus  as long as the main talk is about when to sleep and awake) 

do you need to get up at morning and sleep at night ?    how bad it is to sleep during the day and be awake at night ?

read not long ago about Brahmamuhurtha  -  what are your thoughts about that ?  is it effective if im awake at night and go to sleep after that time ? is there something about this in daoism as well (maybe even a word for that time) ? 

just to add  (personally im still confused but thanks to this kind of threads less and less) a video im watching now :
 

Such a shame to read you can incorporate this with other practices  - seems like such a nice simple exercise to do   -     did i get it right that  all you do in the first level is just this simple movements and thats it no need for visualization  or focus etc ?

That is a great watch    - couldnt get all the words cause i couldnt hear all of them well but got most of them

so what is the difference between what he does and yoga does benifit wise ?     for which cases yoga is better according to him ? 

Is there a way to that way to do stretches as he explains ?   ( as in a name i can google that so i can learn more about the techinque he explained  (from other people as well)   )
 
What is the difference stretch wise  ?  as in does he strech a differnt part of the body  (the fascia?)  ? 

As long as i keep that tension  -  there is no risk of over flexibility ?         

(cause i can see a scenario when someone can become extremely flexible  while keeping that tension ) 

in yoga there is the risk of over flexibility than ?

Do you think i can over strech than ?  

I really want to strech now    since i always look for ways to strengthen my "practice"   that are not about adding meditation or qigong times than  if stretching really helps release stuck emotions and really helps you have more  qi in the body and more qi flow thats awesome     

especially if i can do a few stretches  for a few minutes  (not an hour long)  and thats  it  - and maybe do it a few times a day   that can be really easy for me  - and if that alone can have "spiritual" benifits (i mean stuff like release emotions or better qi flow)  than its great

But i wonder now about maybe i will be too flexible than which as you wrote might be unhealthy ?     and also  if i practice it without a teacher  if its still good  -   cause i dont want to go to classess or a yoga teacher  for this   ( at least not at the moment - not to mention i cant leave the house at the moment as well)

So would you say  that stretching exercises   as  widely known by general public  - the ones shown in those training TV videos  and the ones done at the gym have this benifits too ?

Vajra Fist do you think that regular streching as done not thorugh yoga but through "regular" common stretches  have the same benefit of releasing  emotions ?  

freeform  you think streching "regular"  common streches  - without knowing anything about how to loosen and open around the joints , at least not knowingly  -  has any benifit

and forgot to add to the question above and will edit  add now :     If there are benifits to it in a qi point of view what does it mean on extremely flexible "rubber man"  ?                

do you think they released a lot of locked emotions and by that are spiritually "advanced"  more than the average person ?    they have really  clear open meridans with a very strong flow in it ?

From a qi point of view  -    What are the effects of streching exercises  (that are not part of yoga or qigong system)  ?      

I have noticed there are a lot of stretching movements in zhineng qigong and maybe its in other qigong paths   -   does streching (not as part of qigong)  have any effect on qi in the body ?   does it make more qi in the body ?  does it help clear blockages in the meridians ? does it widen the meridians ?

If there are benifits to it in a qi point of view what does it mean on extremely flexible "rubber man"  ?         are there areas where they are extremly good at  ( spiritualy , strong qi flow etc)

how much effect does feng shui has on a persons practice ? 

I am talking about   the effect of the feng shui of the place where he "trains"  meditation/qigong   ? 

can feng shui change a place so that 1 hour of qigong practice in it is worth 10   hours in another place ? 100 hours ? 10000 hours ?

how to make a place have effect on the practice ?  

what are the "strongest"  effect feng shui places  -  in general  ( forest , river , beach, mountain , toilet , fast food place , school  , church , monastery etc)     ?           and specifically  what are the strongest effect places in the world ? 

(anything someone wants to add about feng shui effects on practice are welcome)

lets say i  get enough sleep and put effort and 100% is organic    --   does it mean i will get a very big amount of qi ? 

and lets say i have that pile of qi in me  ....  i still need to take action to convert that qi into jing  or the fact i have huge amounts of qi will make some of it increase my jing (above the normal amount)  ?


Also when i dont masterbaute  i get wet dreams  -  maybe in some high level in the future i could somehow avoid them but not at my current state  -  does it mean its not much use to gather qi  if its lost anyway  -  like i can put an effort and gather 66 units  instead of 44   but at the end of the day i will lose it just the same  ?

 

1 . we are trying to convert as much qi to jing as we can  - the more the better ?

2 . we waste qi in daily life  -   by masterbating and doing actions  -  and we gather qi by eating food ?

3 .  qi flows all the time in and out of the body to the universe (Exchange) ?        if i get 6 points of qi from this organic salad i ate instead of chips ....   and they i practice a qigong exercise where you push and pull qi  ....  than  do i push those 6 points out togther with 20 qi points in the push phase and than in another 26 qi points in the pull stage ?

3 . if i clear my blocakges - how does it improve my gathering more jing/food in the fridge ? 

10 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

Be prepared to do both in case your pipeline gets blocked--you can still experience blockages. The reserves are there for a reason.

  So you are saying gathering qi is like a back up plan ?   as in  if you do something maybe its batter to work on the pipeline  ?
 

20 minutes ago, waterdrop said:

but if that is the case it does clash with  your example of a "larger container"   we expand the channels just so we can gather more qi in some place in the body ?  or we gather qi so we can increase the flow of qi ? 

 

Yes. 

i dont understand the "yes"    do we gather qi  so we can increase flow   -  or increase flow so we can gather qi ?    ( i assume we gather qi to increase flow by the above but i want to hear it from you)