MegaMind

Sure that is fine to provide no evidence at all. You do realize how absurd it looks though right, to claim to have auto LDT chargers and brain injections, and power mutation capsules, and machines that open portals to other dimensions where you fight 1000000 year old Naga demons, and all kinds of other things though right? Perhaps it would be better not to make claims if you won't or can't provide evidence to back them up. That is if you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously.

I actually agree with you here. The instructions that you posted are a joke. We do not consider what you posted to be holy. This is not what we practice.

Ok so lets see more evidence and less unsubstantiated claims.

You may be a super genius that invents machines to charge your LDT for you so you don't have to meditate, inject things into your brain and make power mutation capsules, and open portals to other worlds with 1000000 year old Naga demons. Maybe this is true. However if the goal here is for people to believe you then maybe some evidence might be a good idea?

Don't start doing random crap. You absolutely will make yourself sick, possibly winding up with psychosis or serious health issues.

I don't drink coffee. I do like chai tea though.

The instructions from Jim posted here on the forum are altered and all the parts that matter removed. The absolute requirement to be grounded is just one example.

Jim's cancer was due to agent Orange exposure. I know another vet with the same exposure and same cancer and he never practiced mo Pai one day in his life. Gsmaster thinks he has machines that charge his LDT for him and gets power mutation capsules and brain injections so he can open portals to other worlds and fight 1000000 year old Naga demons, teleport and shoot eye lasers. Yes seriously. Be careful who you listen to online most of these people are just as bad as if not worse, and they all want to convince you how evil, dangerous and fake mo Pai is, all the while pushing their own made up placebo garbage.

We aren't claiming anything other than the method works and anyone who wants to see for themselves can do so.

"I am literally asking whether or not you were formally initiated into the Mopai by anybody who was formally initiated into the Mopai by John Chang and given permission by John Chang to initiate further disciples." Jim formally taught many members in our group, and they continue his legacy. Jim was an official student, and the top western student who went further than many Indonesian students. We do not have access to the Mo Pai text, nor do we have formal instruction for levels 3 through 72. Supposedly after he was kicked out he spoke with John and asked permission to help others and was told "yes". However if John interpreted this to mean something other than teach, I am not sure. Jim and Kosta were students, and we are just people who preserve what they brought back. Think of us as archivists or something.

Supposedly after he was kicked out he spoke with John and asked permission to help others and was told "yes". However if John interpreted this to mean something other than teach, I am not sure.

Jim formally taught many members in our group, and they continue his legacy. Jim was an official student, and the top western student who went further than many Indonesian students. We do not have access to the Mo Pai text, nor do we have formal instruction for levels 3 through 72.

If Dawei says he didn't I will take him at his word, and apologize to him. I don't see any reason for the people who claimed that to have lied about it though.

So you as admin never once read a personal message from another members account?

I am saying Jim and Kosta were students. I am saying we preserve what they brought back without alteration. That's it. If you want to add more words to it and make it complicated, that is on you.

Jim and Kosta were students, and we are just people who preserve what they brought back. Think of us as archivists or something.

According to some people who were former staff. Private messages of our group's members were accessed and their contents shared. That is why we ask members to disable personal messenger if they go public here our private messages can't be used as a resource against us.

You are making claims we aren't.

"you fail to answer a simple, basic, fair question" This is a pretty simple, basic and fair answer: "Be a shame to waste your whole youth on this cult crap." We base our beliefs of what we ourselves see and experience, not on a book or someone else's testimony. No one is charged anything, nor are donations accepted. This is not a belief system, but a process or rather technology, just like rubbing sticks together to make a fire. Anyone who undertakes the training can and will be able to see for themselves. I don't know how to the reality of the situation any clearer to you.

Dawei I don't know if you will accept what I am saying as a sincere statement or not but it is sincere. Compared what we endured under your reign as emperor here, this non-moderation looks like a walk in the park. I am being called a bald, homosexual, trailer-trash, pot-head, who pops other people's zits and likes prostate massages and all kinds of other nonsense. Our group is being accused of all sorts of abuses, suicides and psychosis and it sounds like animal sacrifice will be next. Our teachers names are being defiled claiming all sorts of nonsense. But you know what, I find all that far less abusive than what we all endured under you. You will never know how awful it is to not even be able to defend yourself from nonsense like this, and to watch a practice that could literally change this world be turned into the butt of some joke.

It was just to make a point. An individual said something bad about Dawei on another forum, and he had the same username here and was banned for it here. There was a period of a year or more when Dawei and Kar3n adopted a KOS strategy to any member in our group who publicly spoke up. We went silent during this period to avoid the ban hammer. During this time lots of "mo pai sleeper agents" as Dawei called them were banned, but none belonged to our group.

To me what you are doing here is like linking to Son Of The God's forum, and attributing it to our group. Ken is not a member of our group, though I don't think any have a problem with him. He seems to be doing his own thing.

We don't know of any better alternatives, but we are searching. That is the best we can do.

Glad you caught that one before it was hidden, I missed the last one unfortunately.