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Thank you very much. I think that the problem was some details in language. Writing in a little different way solved the problem. As you read before, "I JUST DID IT" 2hour sa day, by six months, daily, and this didn’t helped absolutely nothing about the this. So, yes, it was really necessary more direct clarification. In fact, it is exactly BECAUSE THIS a logical criteria was important, if there was some logic in this system. By all your replies I now know that there is none. By you explanation and by what other said I deduced that the problem was exactly because I did the two full program together always. So, as in anything in the life, if you do 12 things in a row, even “you find yourself more energized, having more mental focus and clarity, being more joyful and willing to engage into your daily business”, this will be felt like the result of the whole 12 practices, nobody will be not able to know how each part contribute to this final result, excet maybe the very sensitive people. Exactly because this I was worried about "how to select" them. Maybe if I had trained each one separately (It is not a option to me, I only can do all of them in the end of night, I have no intervals in my daily activities since 6AM until 22PM.) I would be able to detect different effect from each one of them. But it is ok, now I know what I need to know to continue in DVDs ( In this new begining, I am practicing only the DVD1 since end of november, I only will add DVD2 in March. So, maybe this time I can "feel" some difference between them ) ,and about like the people here make their choices. I will do the mine in the way as I judge more efficient way to make any choises. I only was afraid I was losing some important infromations. Like this, for example: It was exactly as I had imagined, but I was not sure, the idea of select some of them began to confuse me. It was necessary confimation. For while my free time is limited to two hours a day, none of them before 22:00.PM. But In 2019 I will be retired, so I will have ilimited time and my intention is to pratice the whole system during moments of the day, and the problem of selection will disappear. Thank you to everyone that help me to clear this.

Yes, it helped. At least I understood that the DVD4 is the Main Goal and all before is only preparation and the one session of practice is more or less limited to six meditations. The problem is exactly “set aside”. Let’s see an example focusing only in the DVD1, to be shorter. Here in http://www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html you see: ………………………… So, the first three meditations have a mainly “charging” function. The last two meditations have a mainly circulation function. When you see all them working together in a whole daily practice this combination makes sense. But when you “select your favorite exercises (one or two that have the most pronounced effect on your energy level and well-being)”, it makes no much sense. For example, if the exercises that have “the most pronounced effect” are the last two, then I will not charge the Tan Tiens and it is all ok??? Does’nt matter?? If my favorite exercises are the first three, I will not circulate the energy, only charge it, and it is ok?? Does’nt matter??? It seems a strange criteria to select the exercises that will be “set aside”. The same problem again in the point 10 with “you can scale back your practice..”. If you choose them in a certain way, by what you “feel”, can happens that you can be only charging meditations for six months, and do only circulating meditations for another six months, which I SUPPOSE it is a not a good practice. But like the criteria is “one or two that have the most pronounced effect on your energy level” this kind of selection for exercises can happen. The term "rotate them" is not clear to me. "Rotate them" means option A or B? a) MONDAY- Meditation X TUESDAY- Meditation Y and so forth... b ) FIRST SIX MONTHS- meditation X SECOND SIX MONTH- medtattion Y and so forth... Earl grey, I practiced the DVD1+DVD2, both complete in one full session of two hours, daily, by six months, and never "felt" any "unique effect of each meditation". So I need to choose using the knowledge and reason. I can understand if the criteria was like "pick always one charging meditation and a circulating meditation to a balanced practice", but I can not understand "choose by what you feel". I feel energy vibrating in hands in “Monk Gazing at Moon” and sometimes flowing up spiralating by legs until the hips. I feel some energy flowing from my hand to my forearm until the hand and foot in the folded position of "Wind Above the Clouds. In DVD2, when I was practicing it, I felt, sometimes, in the third meditation. like if there is a very big and strong dragonfly flapping wings between my hands, so strong that I need open easy to check what was that. And in the fourth meditation of the DVD2 I had the more strong effects in terms of cleasing of energy, wich, im my case is to produce much belch, all time ( This happens too when I apply reiki and the patient have some problem in some area. Usually I will belch until HE is clean. I don’ know how is with other, I don’t see nobody speaking about this, but I know that in me blech meana cleaning of energies) But see, they are only feeling of movements of energy, they don't generates none feel like “oh this is good”, “this is better than that”, "this make me fell so…that makes me fell that". So I can not choose by what I feel, I would like to obtain logical criteria or information to decide, to avoid dicard the "more necessary", if sometihng like that exists, if someone knows anything about this. If there is none knowledge available about the differecen and importance of each one of this meditations, nor logical criteria to choose, it is difficult to me. It is exactly what I am trying obtain here in the case someone know. I thought that Terence knew but maybe not.

Always adding all together, or replace them? Another way to put this is: If there are ,for example, 8 DVDs form Flying phoenix chi kung, each one with one hour, the goal is to practice 8 hours a day? If suppose not, but maybe it is, they kind of thing is old, when the people live in country and have too much time available. I don't know, maybe Terence know, because this I am asking. If not, some are only preparatory and can be abandoned after you reach more advanced exercises, because these more advanced already include all past benefits exercises? Think like "Calhistenics+Strengh Training+Flexibility". If you are sedentary is good to do Calisthenic, but if you do Strength Training is waste of time to do Calisthenics. But is is not waste of time to do flexibility work, and should be trained together. This decision should be not by what you feel, but by what is need, by what the people really KNOWS about this matters. I don',t want to arrive in the DVD 4, "feel" that it alone should be enough, and maybe three years after read here : "Oh no, if you stop to praticed the DVD1 you will reduce too much the results form FPCK!". Would be a great waste of time because the right information never was given when asked. If doesn't matter, so a person can pick any DVD, and never do the others, and he will have the same results. We can???? But I read here in some point, when some people asked "Cam I do only the DVD1? And Terence replied "If you skip DVD 2 you will lose important benefits for FPCK. So, it is very simple: - what exactly to do? the guidelines are confuse and need more explanations. If nobody know, so say: "I don't know, maybe nobody never knew" But if someone know, it would be great to be direct to the point

As my question in the page 182 went unanswered after one month, and we entered now in the page 183, I am rescuing it here, to avoid it can be buried and never answered.

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(English is not my primary language. I am Brazilian, can understand well written english, but to write can be a different matter and I almost never need write in english. So I don’t know how clear is my written English, so I ask you some patience if my sentences seems a little “weird” to you.) ................................................................................................................................... .................................................................................................................................. Hello! I am a new member, I know this forum there some years but only today I decided register me. I have some doubts about the Flying Phoenix guidelines. I practiced DVD1+DVD2 daily for six months, but I became confused about what to do with the DVD3 and DVD4.Some time after begin to learn DVD3 I gave up. I am returning to practice since one month ago and would like to solve this 'mysteries', before arrive again in the point where they become a problem. I tried obtain some direct explanations by email maybe three times, but taichimania never replied, so I will try obtain the answers here. This topic is great but is so long that even if I try research, I found pages and pages and in none of them I found the direct reply to the points that I am looking for. So excuse me if I am asking a repeated question. In the Training schedule ( http://www.taichimania.com/trainingschedule.html ), point 7, says: 1) This means what exactly? ----a)- Should I abandon the practice of the first group 3 standing and 3 seated meditation to replace them for the next group? ----b)- Or should I continue doing them and only add the new meditations, and the GOAL would be practicing DVD1+DVD2+DVD3 daily? Maybe you think that item 8 clears this, but not: 2) I can not understand if this “until you have practiced” means: ---a)-“until you are practicing all of them daily” ---b)-or “ until you have some past experience in all of them” I ask this because you suggest that “some past experience” is enough to we can reduce the total time of practice. The item 9 suggest that some exercises will be abandoned in some point: 3) So I will practice only two of eleven ( 1 standing and 1 seated) and remain without to practice all the others nine exercises for six months? And in 10 you says: 4) It means: -----a)-after I left behind the practice of those 9 exercises I go back and pick two o them? But if they have some utility why they should be abandoned for so long time? I will not lose their effects for not practice for 6 months? Won't be better practice all of them daily? -----b)-I should continue this cycle (pick two, practice 6monhs, scale back them to once a week, pick other two, practice 6 months, scale back to once week, pick another two.....until make the same all 5 standind+6 seated? Or only with the two stronger effect exercises of each group? 5) And about those two moving meditations of DVD3? They can be abandoned too? Or I should pick one of them so? Like so: - 1 favorite exercise from DVD1 + 1 favorite exercise from DVD2+ all DVD3 Here seems there is some confusion: 6) The DVD3 have two moving meditations, none of them is it. I suppose that you make a mistake, should be written "Volume four"? So, If I was able to understand something, I suppose that: 7) When I begin to learn the DVD4, I should be training daily: ------a)1 from DVD1+1 form DVD2+ 1 from DVD3 AND Maybe practicing a “second best exercise” only once a week? or ------b)-1 from DVD1+1 from DVD2+ DVD3 complete AND Maybe practicing a “second best exercise” only once a week? ? 8) AFTER learn DVD4 should I abandon completely the practice of the DVDs 1,2,3 ? Or should continue practicing them once a week? 9) The next DVDs are “extras” to the main system? I suppose that the DVD5 don’t replace a practice of the DVD4, right? Nor DVD7 replace DVD2? 10)By the explanations it seems that the correct steup training schedule to the DVD1+DVD2 should be like this, but I don1t know where put the two meditations of the DVD3: DVD 1- 5 standing meditations* ----DVD 2 - 6 seated meditations ITEM FROM TRAINING SHCEDULE FIRST CYCLE FIRST 2 WEEKS SECOND 2 WEEKS THIRD 2 WEEKS LAST 8 WEEKS 3-6 STANDING EXERCISE #1 EXERCISE #1 + #2 EXERCISE #1 + #2 + #3 EXERCISE #1 + #2 + #3 SEATED EXERCISE #1 EXERCISE #1 + #2 EXERCISE #1 + #2 + #3 EXERCISE #1 + #2 + #3 7-8 SECOND CYCLE 15-16TH WEEKS 17-18TH 2 WEEKS 19-20 2 WEEKS LAST 8 WEEKS STANDING EXERCISE #4 EXERCISE #4 + #5 EXERCISE #4 + #5 +??? * EXERCISE #4 + #5 +??? * SEATED EXERCISE #4 EXERCISE #4 + #5 EXERCISE #4 + #5 + #6 EXERCISE #1 + #2 + #3 9 THIRD CYCLE NEXT 6 MONTHS STANDING FAVORITE EXERCISE 1 SEATED FAVORITE EXERCISE 2 10 Fourth cycle FEX1+FEX2- ONCE A WEEK FEX3+FEX4- DAILY 11 Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation DAILY

Hi, I leave in Brazil, and I am interested in QiGong there are some years, maybe 8 years. But there is not personal instruction in my city, so I only can learn by books and DVDS. I had several "starts" but usually I stop some months. The styles that I practiced more time were: -the Flying Phoenix Chi Kung, DVD1+DVD2 daily for six months, but when I began the DVD 3 I stopped, it was too much time and it never was clear how can I advance in the informed training schedule. -I also practiced some months the two first DVDS from Sifu Yan Lei , and the the "Nei Kung" by C.K.Chu Now I am beginning again, after a pause of two years and need to clear some doubts about the training schedule of Flying Phoneix system. As I never was able to obtain any reply from Terence by e-mail, I want to try put my doubts here, in topic about it but I need make this presentation before. Since this is a presentation, some other informations of interest about me can be: I have 47 years old, I am Technician in Industrial Chemistry, Graduation in Portuguese- Language and Literature, MD in History of literature, and I work in a Laboratory of Scientific Research in Aquaculture and Oceanography, in a Federal University. In less mundane matters, my presentation is: I was instructor of a esoteric school in my city, the Gnosis ( Samael Aun Weor), and member during one year of Servants of Light (S.O.L- Dolores Novicki). I worked tow years in a group of " desobsession " ( in english countries I think it is best know as "Spirt Release Theraphy"). And I lived 18 months (2001-2003) in that 'system' knew "Living on Light"(Jasmuheen). Nowadays I am administrator/instructor of a "Astral Projection" forum in Brazil.