Aetherous

It could.

I don't understand. Not being critical, I really don't know what you're getting at just yet...care to explain in a different way?

Why is it that people say "you're wrong about your translation" and not give a more correct one?

Good point. Who seems good to you this time around, then?

Thanks, that was my whole point. Sometimes people forget where they're at. If you all keep this in mind, I'm sure that your efforts towards gathering various traditions of wholesome cultivation in one place will be very worthwhile. So enough said on that issue from me. It was really my only concern. Good luck.

Lin, It'd help if you defined what "teachings of wholesome education" are and what the goal of those teachings is. But I think my main point has to do with what you said: "maybe there are people out there that have the eyes to tell what is and isn't wholesome". My point is: maybe there aren't. Most, if not all people tend to be imperfect and biased. They might not see the brilliance of another tradition, because of that. So unless they consciously keep a very open mind and just let it be a free for all, kind of like this very website, there WILL be the "I am wiser pedestal" thing happening. And who can really say with 100% certainty they will be able to maintain something like that? Who would want to? I don't think that's the real goal you guys are looking at achieving, is it? Teaching and leading without really having attained much. No one will decide what's worthy or not? Okay...that's fine then! So it will be like this website, taobums, but happening in real life instead of just online? That would be great in my opinion. I was really under the impression that this would be a board of designated people who attempt to weed out teachings which they deem as not "wholesome". That sounds great, except someone acting like Buddha doesn't have the wisdom and realization. They are far from it. And how does someone know what Buddha would act like? Anyway this is kind of unrelated to the topic at hand. Yes, one should be able to tell for themselves, but I was talking about how to recognize it in someone else. Because apparently you guys were going to declare that "all states are merely stepping stones", which can lead to a destruction of the goal itself: enlightenment. Then when actual Buddhas start popping up, they would be said to be liars and looked down upon by the "platform".

Stigweard, I really wasn't trying to be offensive...just giving my honest (yet harsh) view that perhaps it's not yet time to lead. I truly meant it to be constructive...not to drag anyone down. And I wasn't just referring to you, but to the others who have been involved as well. Just talking to you since you seem to be the main organizer or at least the person most excited about this idea. My personal wisdom: practice more, engage in delusion less. Delusion being: establishing a committee or school or a big melting pot temple area. That's just ego stuff. So to not engage in delusion would be to just drop the idea altogether...or at least to keep an open mind regarding people's claims (talking about the mythbusting stuff) while keeping the idea going. And staying humble in the process. I got that impression from this post of yours in this thread: And in the topic you posted in the lobby: I assume you were talking about the same thing there as in this thread. So I guess I am just putting the questions out there in hopes to inspire people in the right direction regarding this idea: 1) Do you have what it takes to know what's actually true and false? To be an effective mythbuster, and not just "myth bust" based on false opinions that you may have? 2) Are you sure this plan isn't just another distraction from your own cultivation? 3) Are you cultivated enough to be a leader of a judgemental organization, so that it doesn't affect your own cultivation? 4) Are you sure enough about where you're going on your path, that you know how to guide people in the right direction? 5) Really? Are you really sure?

Who is going to decide who is wise and who isn't? Someone who claims they're wise enough to recognize wisdom? Is that person really wise, or do they just think they know something? Nothing personal, but I don't really see eye to eye with you guys. I tend to think that this is all very premature. Like: keep going for a while longer with your practices before getting caught up in this stuff. Wanting to establish a mystery school where you can decide what's worthy or unworthy of being approved...that can be a huge distraction from the path! Besides distracting many other people with your possibly false ideas. Stig, no offense at all meant to you personally, and I don't know you, but: In this respect you should cut off your own head. Wanting to create a cultivation society where you decide what different traditions are worthy or not is quite deluded. The glimmer of hope here is that you guys are wanting to do it to promote the truth and goodness in different traditions...but it doesn't seem to me that anyone here is really ready to do that. We would truly need an actual Buddha to start this up, for me to support such an organization. Sounds good. Is the realization of one's Original Nature not another state? How could you tell the difference?

Very very very times 10 thousand, awesome. Have you written a book on this stuff yet? Because you should! I would buy it. The ideal thing I would like to read is 1) a translation of important stuff (like the book of the dead or whatever you think is most important and summarizes it all) 2) a commentary on the translated text 3) putting the ideas into practical use (like where you would talk about your personal experience working with ka and ba) That would probably be the greatest book on ancient Egypt ever made.

Yup...awareness watching awareness.

I'm still shy, but I don't care as much that I'm shy. I'm more okay with who I am now regardless of what it is. So I guess that makes me less shy. That seems to be an effect the practice has had on me.

Why would anyone pay any attention to someone so seething?

I don't understand his point. He drew some circles over the Giza pyramids and some other lines to make it "work"... Maybe I would need to hear more about what this means.

Oh man...pesto is the food of the immortals. Not really but it is amazing.

I have no idea. Things started happening a lot faster with the transmission though. Normally when I would practice my legs would just shake...but during the transmission at the seminar I started moving side to side.

I just can't get over how great pepperoni pizza is. And apples.

GDB is apparently a returnable rainbow body. The impression I have is that you are so unblocked (of samskaras or attachments) and united in mind/body/spirit/whatever else, that you physically dissolve/unite with the Tao...and you do certain things to stay here physically, if that's the choice. Why someone would want to reach this? To be the kunlun champion. I don't know. To freak people out at starbucks? But it encompasses the goal of every spiritual tradition I think: to find the truth, to rid yourself of "sinful nature", to be one with Nature, etc. By the way: that's just my interpretation.

Sweet, thanks. That's pretty crazy that "sah" isn't even mentioned! There is a a "sah breath" practice in kunlun. I tried it the other night and it seemed to work with some of the text. For instance, the tunnel and light 6" in front of the brow, was clearly perceptible. It's good to get another viewpoint on it, since I know nothing of Egyptian language or hieroglyphs.

Yea screwed either way. I'm thinking of moving.

About the "sah" breath: http://www.pyramidtexts.com/

A bullet.

But my ka is excited! And my ka doesn't know how to count to 2 much less 5.

What is the point of the sphinx? Do you have anything to say about the SAH breath in the pyramid texts? Are there any existing mystery schools, which are actually legit (not something formulated or channeled, but handed down)?

Awesome quote by Emerson. It seems that Newman did live this way. Thanks for the reminder of what's important.

Well I guess there are actual health benefits...I was just in a class where we were working on taking vitals, and we did blood pressure on eachother. Mine used to be around 140/90 all the time, for years, (when I was doing kundalini yoga), but now it's around 120/80.