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I was just wondering if the reason of not having a noun for humility had something to do with a cultural aspect I don't understand or another way to express humility

Excellent finding and then how this story of the symbol was created? And how is explained today either by the popular culture or the scholars? Just wondering

Interesting observation except that shen character is composed of one radical and another compound. The problem I am having is that what you find out there about the yin yang symbol is very simplistic and not educational. It will be interesting to find out a more in depth explanation and not generalizations about how to understand and interpret this symbol. Maybe someone has this type of information. Thanks

The title says Taiwanese cult. As I was curious about this cult thing, I just happened to read about this: https://www.thechinastory.org/dossier/the-eleven-most-active-religious-cults-in-china/ Taking its cue from a report on People’s Daily Online, the Daily Mirror (晶报) newspaper from Guangdong yesterday reported on “evil cults” (邪教) in China, in the wake of the murder of a woman in a McDonald’s outlet in Zhaoyuan (招远), Shandong province, by six members of the “Almighty God” (全能神) cult on May 28. The report, based on findings released by the China Anti-Cult Association, lists the eleven most active religious cults in China currently. The report notes a warning from the Association, however, that in addition to the cults listed below, there are many other cults that are holding gatherings, proselytizing and causing trouble. Eight cults are named in this regard, such as the South China Church (华南教会) and the World Gospel Evangelical Church of Christ (世界以利亚福音宣教会). The following are the eleven most active religious cults in China, and comments on some of the commentary on each as published in yesterday’s Daily Mirror: Falun Gong (法轮功): Founded in the early 1990s, have committed many crimes. Leader Li Hongzhi (李洪志) exercises “extreme spiritual control” over followers. Almighty God (全能神): Split off from The Shout (呼喊派, see below) in the 1990s, when it became a separate entity under the leadership of Zhao Weishan (赵维山). The cult believes that the one true God revealed himself as a second Christ in the form of an Asian woman to save the Chinese nation. Zhao fled China for the US in 2000; many members of the cult have committed crimes of homicide and public disorder, with the latest being the murder of the woman in a McDonald’s outlet in Shandong on May 28. The Shout (呼喊派): Established by Li Changshou (李常受), a US citizen, in 1962 in the US, the cult has a presence all over the world and many links with other religious organizations, and tries to organize in mainland China as well. The Disciple Society (门徒会): Established by Shaanxi peasant Li Sanbao (季三保, original name 季忠杰) in 1989, this cult considers itself a Christian sect; its illegal activities include what it calls “passing on the gospel”. The cult considers the present world a black-and-white, confused mass that will be destroyed in a great flood. Unification Church (统一教): Established in Busan, South Korea in 1954, this cult seeks to exert extensive control over followers, and makes use of so-called “Ideal Households” (理想家庭) where inhabitants are paired for marriage by elder members of the cult. Guanyin Method (观音法门): Established in Taiwan in 1988 by a woman named Shi Qinghai (释清海), who styles herself as “supreme teacher” equal to Siddharta Gautama, Jesus Christ, and Allah. Bloody Holy Spirit (血水圣灵): With its current headquarters in Taiwan, this cult is at present under the leadership of a man named Zuo Kun (左坤), who fled Taiwan for the US after coming under suspicion as a cult leader. In recent years this cult has been actively recruiting new members and accumulating wealth in mainland China. All Ranges Church (全范围教会): Established by Xu Yongze (徐永泽) in 1984; Xu subsequently fled to the US in 2000. The “all ranges” doctrine of the church is built on three key concepts, namely big (大), wide (广), and deep (深), by which all people should be brought to Christ and co-rule with Christ in a godly nation. Meetings of this cult are marked by loud wailing to confess sins. Three Grades of Servants (三班仆人派): Established by Xu Wenku (徐文库) in 1986. Calling himself the servant of God (神的仆人), Xu went to preach the gospel in northeastern China, and made extensive use of the Gospel of Matthew. This cult is considered extremely dangerous, as it is responsible for 21 murders all over China. True Buddha School (灵仙真佛宗): Established by the American Chinese Lu Shengyan (卢胜彦) in Taiwan 1979, the cult’s headquarters is located in Seattle. Lu calls himself a “living Buddha”, and advocates for his followers to reach true enlightenment by surpassing all earthly worries and fantasies. Chinese Mainland Administrative Deacon Station (中华大陆行政执事站): Established by former Shout member Wang Yongmin (王永民) in 1994, Wang considers himself to be the one true deacon. The cult is aimed at expanding the kingdom of God, and inhibiting the kingdom of Satan, and adheres to a doctrine of an approaching end of the world.

Well you are stretching too far although if someone tells me one drop of water is equal two drops of water, I will understand in math that is correct in real life, I will contest as one drop plus another drop makes only one big drop of water

In the title of this thread it was said "cult" which didn't clarify to define this type of cult. Maybe you were saying: sect, denomination, group, movement, church, persuasion, body, faction I wonder how people in Taiwan or China see yiguan dao as a group in their communities. What is interesting to see is how Daoism is including in their beliefs and still co-exist with other religious beliefs.

Hung ka kyun (Honjia quan) has some elements of neigong exercises. Back in the 70's in the west nobody knew about qigong. So there is breathing, meditating and sounds exercises in other kung fu styles.

A child having morals? All I know about children is "I want, I want " they don't have morals, they learned them from adults. My bad I disagree so am I right or wrong?

To whatever is worth

Why do you call it "cult"?. The connotation doesn't match with Chinese reality as far as I understand.

why everything has to be binary? Right or wrong is very subjective. I think there is both right in wrong and wrong in right. Dichotomies are limited at a certain point then there is grey zone and each language has its strategy to distinguish right or wrong.

Language (written and spoken), direct lineage learning experience, exposed to Chinese culture and culture changes among others.

I am a beginner so anything that you can point out will be worth my search. Thanks,

My guess is go to mainland China or Taiwan. As young as you are you can take advantage of the benefits they offer to foreigners. There are several YouTube videos of Americans and french who live in Daoist monasteries.

And now who's The most influential Taoist figure today both in Taiwan or mainland China. Maybe another country?

That is true as for the examples you give. Since this a Dao forum, I was wondering if what you say has been said in a Daoist text.

I thought Dao was above everything. What passages talk about right or wrong? I wonder if there is something on sexual Daoism??

Where in the Dao it says is not neutral and where is right or wrong? I always wonder where everybody gets all the information from the original??

Do you prefer xiawu 俠武 movies? Do you have a good documentary from Taiwan on Daoism in Chinese? I have noticed some clips from Haikong and wonder what do you think about his interventions.

It is amazing at this time of age that people both women and men don't see that pornography today is all fake, it is all business. Moreover, I read sometime ago that back after 1995 (Windoze supremacy), porn addicts were men and today you have both genders as avid watchers of video clips. Also, big companies and even religious affiliations are involved in the big business, big bucks involved. It seems that thanks to porn, big part stream media was able to develop all new technologies as we see it today. It is also amazing to see big productions and all kind of stuff you can find and still is moderated. In the beginning of the internet you could see most of everything, today is much more regulated. Again, it is a business and has nothing to do with reality. As for Dao, reading some of comments as being neutral, it sounds to me "I wash my hands, Dao has no opinion on that". Indeed, it may be true about detachment though there are certain chapters that emphasize on avoid conflicts on ourselves. On the other hand someone here should know about sexual practices so something must have said about visual or graphical stimulation helps in their relationships. My 0.02

Which movies would you select to be most related to Daoism?

Why do we need to find the origin, the source when we are the source, we are part of the source, it is a cyclical evolution. Beyond the universe we will never know it and don't think we can push that far, so far with new technologies we reach farther than we can imagine. Now is the return to our sources and continue the cycle.

Don't know if the concept word is the right translation. IMHO as you travel around the world and being exposed to languages it is not about the concept but the experience you live using those words. If I haven't experience, I can only know the word by concept but would have never experienced so I can not really relate with the right word at the right situation.

So when you say, you are learning English, aren't you chasing the details of every word? I am not fascinated by words or secret words, I want to understand the meaning of each chapter and how is interpreted by Chinese or Chinese scholars to learn what is meant in Chinese culture, then I read the English version to understand the meaning of each chapter though I find that interpretations are merely subjective point of view. Could you tell us, how did you learn the DDJ in the beginning of your study or practice?

Thanks and I think I understand the way someone may read the translation. The problem I have had is how can you interpret a text not knowing the Chinese culture, language and cosmology behind the original? It is not about what the ancients thought since we don't have resources to capture what was said during those days. As for this line Note and sound harmonize with each other音聲相和 all I read is the contrast then I found here in this forum a good explanation by ChiDragon: the human voice combines with the musical tones become in harmony. It 's like singing a song with music.Then that makes me think to elaborate my thoughts and better understand. Same goes for The high and the low incline towards each other;高 下 相 盈: The nobles and the peasants are mutually encompassing with each other. 盈in this phrase means encompass. Annotation: The high class people(nobles) and the low class people(peasants) are getting along with each other. Then I understand that based on those explanations I understand to learn to appreciate and totolerate those differences and live with them. Makes sense?