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There's very little truth in what the public has been led to believe about what's healthy. Also about what it is we're actually eating, drinking and smoking -- a lot of it is grossly falsified, depleted, and poisoned. "Feed the ancestors," meaning the ancestral make-up of your own body, which is one of the taoist culinary principles, can IMO serve one better -- try eating what generations of your ancestors ate before you, not the latest fad. Although a lot of our ancestors were starving, not fasting by choice but starving due to poverty and social upheavals and endless wars. Yet those of them who were well-to-do enough to eat "healthy" had access to the kinds and varieties of food we can only dream about. (My grandmother on my mother's side used to tell me what was eaten in her mother's home in the early 20th century and all I could do was salivate. On my father's side, however, the ancestors were very poor and lived through periods of starvation. My mother's side of the family were the longevity folks, not my father's side.)
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This is a very important key. I asked AI (Grok) about smokers and drinkers among the verified longest lived individuals. Here's a partial list (there's a bunch of others too who have birth documents but "are not fully verified" so I skipped their names) Name Country Age at death Smoked? Drank? Notes Jeanne Calment France 122 y 164 d Yes – ~2 cigarettes/day for 96 years, quit at 117 Port wine daily The absolute record holder (verified) Antonio Todde Italy (Sardinia) 112 y 346 d Yes – cigars and cigarettes most of his life Wine daily Oldest verified man in Europe when he died in 2002 Christian Mortensen USA (Danish-born) 115 y 252 d Yes – cigars and cigarettes until late 80s Occasional alcohol Oldest verified man ever until 2012 Maggie Barnes USA 115 y 319 d (disputed) Yes – smoked unfiltered cigarettes for decades Moonshine occasionally Age debated but widely accepted at the time Susie Gibson USA 115 y 108 d Yes – smoked cigarettes until 106 Occasional whiskey Quit only when she couldn’t light them anymore Richard Overton USA 112 y 230 d Yes – 12–18 cigars a day until 109 Whiskey in his coffee daily America’s oldest WWII veteran when he died in 2018 That Richard Overton guy surprises me. Not so much the 18 cigars a day but whiskey in his coffee. Coffee pairs perfectly with cognac. Whiskey?.. Assuming he started when he was legal to drink, that's almost a century of misguided daily use of a rather uncouth beverage. But I guess couth/uncouth is not a factor in longevity.
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Kombucha is good, but bubble baths are quite harmful (toxic chemicals). Getting one's claws out when the situation warrants it is IMO healthier than being addicted to the drug peddled heavier than any other -- Repressitol. All things in moderation...
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Edit: removed in response to the removal of what it was about
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恒 (Héng) : Perseverance, Persistence, Enduring Constancy. One of the "virtues" deeply embedded in taoism.
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I think Max Christensen mentioned some symbiotic alien entity there. I don't have any bumps in that location but I have a birthmark to the right of the fontanelle. I seem to recall Buddha did too (there's a tradition that maintains that a reincarnation is supposed to demonstrate 7 signs on the body, for starters, don't remember what the other ones are). We also share the date of birth. I don't know the significance of that for a taoist. Why?
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The hurricane/tropical storm is a couple hours away from us per latest predictions, but some fire hydrants in downtown decided to help it along ahead of schedule. Video: https://packaged-media.redd.it/k703vjwl1bjb1/pb/m2-res_1280p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1692572400&s=6d053c7ae8deeab4e038fffffacb9f5afa090978#t=0
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Taomeow posted a topic in General Discussion
It is a belief system for the indoctrinated, but for the indoctrinators it is primarily (and often entirely) a power grab system. All our "life sciences" inherited the tradition they directly arose from -- that of witch hunts, getting rid of ideological competition, gaining both power and money, monopolizing control of people's bodies, calling the shots. (There's a pun in there.) -
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Of course. The Tao Miao (or Dao Miao) 道妙 -- "The Mystery of the Dao," "The Subtle Wonder of the Way," "The Profound Principle." And indeed, as you quoted, "The fundamental laws of physics cannot be contained within space and time, because they generate them.'' The Tao Miao is much more than "the fundamental laws of physics" though -- it's what generates them. -
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Mine mentioned the original and the best -- natural ecosystems. Also I asked it about those of the fuzzy-logical processes that are non-algorithmic. It came up with Human subjective judgment (e.g., "it's quite warm") Emotional reasoning Artistic creativity I would add that cats can be both -- algorithmic and non. E.g. I had a cat who once picked up on the thought I had that the glare from the ceiling light was interfering with watching a movie but I felt too lazy to get up and switch it off. The cat came up to the wall with the switch, looked me in the eye across his shoulder, then jumped straight up the way only cats can, hit the switch with his front paw exactly the way a human would do it, and turned the light off. He did it only once, never before or after. Definitely not part of the cat algorithm. -
I'll have to practice that.
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I used to. By now I learned to either accept the correction with a polite "thank you" or reject it with a polite "fuck you." Depending on the mood.
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Not a snob. I know exactly where you're coming from. I think I think (sic) mostly in 2, but for most of the rest of the languages I've been exposed to, my mind created a common file titled "Foreign languages," dumped everything there indiscriminately, and when stuff from that file interferes with the 2 legit ones, it's not pretty. Not with spelling (although shit happens of course) but with spoken words, especially proper names. The thing is, if an English word is a borrowing from one of those other languages for which I know their proprietary pronunciation rules but not necessarily the English rendition thereof, I tend to stress and enunciate it the way it is stressed and enunciated in the language it came from. Sometimes I really don't know that it's pronounced differently in English from its source language, and sometimes I just can't make myself mutilate it like that. It physically hurts me to have to say Mo-di-GLI-ani or REmy MARtin or DesDEmona, let alone NAbokov. And native speakers never tire of correcting me...
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And here we go again. Apparently, after a bunch of years proving that the universe we live in is a simulation, they now have mathematically demonstrated that it isn't, it's 100% real and, moreover, can't be simulated. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251110021052.htm Whew. Good to know. Not that I didn't... The idea that nothing is real always seemed to me as either religious "opium for the masses" so they don't take their abysmal plight to heart and don't make too many waves... if it's not real, who cares that you're poor and exploited and downtrodden, it's just illusion and in some other "more real" reality you are all-powerful... ...or the outcome of hallucinogenic drugs use that can temporarily, and sometimes permanently, cause depersonalization and the rest of the nothing is real effects... ...or, in the latest scientific incarnations, the conclusions a man of science arrives at who grew up with screens, computers, phones, video games and not with nature. The world they have been exposed to, the only one they know, is then extrapolated in their mind to the rest of the universe. Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about... -
It is definitely foundational. How to approach it -- well, I think the best way to get into the I Ching is the way it's been used for thousands of years, as an oracle, for divination. You begin developing a relationship with it if you use it this way, hearing its voice, so to speak. There's no "foundational hexagrams," they all carry equal weight between themselves -- perhaps you meant the 8 trigrams? Won't hurt to start familiarizing yourself with those and their characteristics, but it's not necessarily the starting point. The older Wilhelm/Baynes version (not sure about the newer ones) has the overview, explains the divination procedures, and has appendices of which the Ta Chuan is IMO of utmost importance to study... eventually or gradually. I'd start very simple though, with just trying to get some answers to your real life questions and see how helpful (or not) you find what the I Ching tells you. Practice makes perfect. There's no bottom to this thing, so wherever you start, you'll be in the same position as Confucius, you always need 50 more years to study it... but 5 minutes do something useful too. My favorite is the second on the left, Ritsema-Sabbadini. I don't think it's the best for beginners though. The one I started with was the Wilhelm-Baynes version and then the one whose name you can't read in the picture and then the rest. I also have the Chinese version, but that's hard even for a native speaker -- the meaning of most words changed over thousands of years. The Ritsema-Sabbadini book is superb in that it gives you all of them, not this or that translator's (or modern native speaker's) version but everything the word ever meant throughout history. But like I said, it's hardly for a beginner -- until one can "see" and understand the hexagram and the changes even without the verbal explanations, I'd say it's step two. Step one -- I would go with Wilhelm-Baynes.
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I wonder if he would still do it if he couldn't afford to change phones this often. A friend of mine once told me about her mom smashing dishes when angry. She found it pretty funny though because her mom would grab a plate, notice it's one of the nice ones, quickly put it down and smash a cheaper one. If she ever smashed one of the nice ones her daughter would know she really means it... otherwise it's just silly theatrics.
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When I was in my early teens we had a TV that responded better to some of The Art of War techniques though. It was old and would attempt to conk out right when they were showing a Polish series that ran in the daytime after school, "everybody" in my class watched it and I had a crush on the main protagonist to boot. So that TV acting up right when his pretty face showed up was infuriating. I tried kindness but no go, so I would give it a beating. It worked. There was a particularly sensitive spot on its side and if you smacked it there, the pretty face reappeared and the TV behaved. Different strokes...
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They had better success with robots that are not humanoid, first deployed for public use in 2020, during the pandemic, ISO contactless food and mail deliveries. There's a couple hundred of them working in Moscow, delivering something like 10,000 food order per month. Of course it's not a lot for such a large city, but they're getting more and more common in the streets. When ordering food via an app, there's an option for robot delivery. Robots pick up orders directly from partnered restaurants and cafes, then navigate sidewalks to deliver to customers. I've seen videos where they sometimes have trouble overcoming a snow drift. They have wheels, not sled runners, so they can have the same trouble with snow drifts as cars. Maybe they will equip them with snow tires or tire chains for the snowy winter... but right now, a friendly passer-by will typically just give them a push if they get stuck.
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How much do you want to know? I have a collection of several (translations and explanations), could recommend some of them if you're interested. If not ready to dive into the depth of one of the world-forming accomplishments of Chinese/East Asian civilization, then brief answer -- an ancient oracle book that was the very first one to be included in the Taoist Canon. The foundation of "it all."
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Why would I ask a question about the multiplication table?.. I wanted to see what meaning you assign to the operation you proposed. Meaning. Here's how the I Ching is really generated. It reflects the actual process of the separation of wuji into yin and yang and the emergence of the trigrams and hexagrams. The linear sequence has been created because in a book you go line by line rather than in a circle, is all. Confucius is reported to have been asked, at the end of his very long and fruitful life, if he has any regrets. "Just one... I wish I had fifty more years of life to dedicate exclusively to the study of the I Ching," he responded.
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That's because Leibniz who introduced binary mathematics to the West and became de facto the father of the computer binary system was familiarized with the I Ching by a Jesuit missionary in China, a personal friend of his, who translated it and sent it to him. Leibniz was very impressed and put the idea to good use. Too bad we never see credit given where credit is due in such cases. Leibniz is credited with inventing it instead...
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And why would you multiply 8 trigrams by 8 trigrams? What's the idea behind the arithmetic?
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Very briefly, this is part of the taoist take on the nature of reality, the "as above so below" principle coded in the binary above-below numerical system of the I Ching. "Heaven above, 32, Earth below, 32" is a statement often encountered in taoist alchemical literature. The set of 64 hexagrams exhibits a perfect balance: 32 hexagrams are Yang in nature. These are the hexagrams that contain an odd number of solid, yang lines (1, 3, or 5). 32 hexagrams are Yin in nature. These are the hexagrams that contain an even number of broken, yin lines (2, 4, or 6). The human body, measured in kuns, is 64. A kun is a measurement unit (used, e.g., by competent acupuncturists for locating points) for a particular individual, approximately the width of that individual's thumb. It is of course slightly different for all people, but based on the fractal nature of the body, there will be corresponding differences in the length of every part, and each anatomically normal human body will measure 64 kun. The lower "heaven" part and the upper "earth" part are each 32.
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Views on Science/Scientists/Scientism (Split from Is the MCO Real?)
Taomeow replied to Taomeow's topic in General Discussion
You should also have mentioned what happened next.
