EmeraldHead

Oh wow I feel that. You're draining the heatwaves of one of the 5 vedantic koshas. I'm not sure which, I think it is manomaya or vijnamaya kosha by the feel of it. I'm not radiating them out myself and would take a couple days to generate them nicely, and I don't know anyone online that I can share who radiates them but you can try these too: manomaya: https://www.book.bfnn.org/books/0362.htm and vijnamaya : https://ufile.io/42al3jgk they radiate sort of water form of the koshas which folds your awareness back on itself at those levels, basically taking your koshas range deeper in consciousness without building the raw substances. Get them on your phone, multiple phones and tablets if you have. Get an 'onscreen' and 'touch protection' so the screen doesn't change on your phone while you keep in your pocket. Just keep the images towards you for a long time. It should help and coagulate eventually after a long time. Both individuals don't have any egregores or other energies that they radiate towards surroundings. It should help a little, in the very least; tell me how it goes. I doubt doctors could help much in your situation, draining like that heavily. Maybe someone in your house is draining and they have emptied you? How long has it been going for? Try to build chi, eat and sleep well and exercise as well. Try not to slouch as you mention, if you cause other health problems while being down because of this they won't fix themselves magickally when you finally fix this :/

Great, thank you man. Feel free to talk. Those who laugh at the Dao, never achieve it. Those who laugh at others, may already be one with the Dao

Thank you for sharing! I believe you. What you say is confusing for most indeed. So I am curious what happens further. Are the middle and upper dan tien a similarly hard etched into the system structure that come with UNIQUE benefits ? or are the MDTs and UDTs of most people out there valid but only the LDT is more of a cardboard, temporary signpost ? Also what do you say on the Wuliu pai claim that the LDT of most people is just the elixir field or tien as it has no dan yet? Is this how you view it as well?

The chi (prana) envelops you like a sheath. Like a cloud if you will, somewhat equally all over, including the space of the 'aura'. You can throw out from anywhere, as well as plug in to charge it from any point. It's like a free balloon or cloud in the air. Prana is a degree of consciousness at the end of the day so consciousness can be thought of as being fully non-solid. Or having no definite quantitative form. But the electric chi discussed so far, is entirely different phenomenon from just throwing about in a random manner. Proper, innate structure needs to be build and activated.

Because you might or may not find another layer of activity in your consciousness. What westerners call a subconsciouss; and more. Everyone is in the Dao and the Dao is immortal. Do you have a desire or thought that is immortal to you across lives?

I imagine the qi in the air isn't that 'dense'.

So, if you can shoot electric q, for real, then you are emitting a lot of juice from you which will take considerable amount of time to replenish back? Something like hours or deeply focused cultivation or maybe even MONTHS? (as I've heard in the case of someone frying an egg with faqi) So you must Absolutely spend a lot of cultivation to produce the faqi with no way of minimizing the consumption?

Nice post, an attempt to translate to Daoism I guess would be: Manasa = yuan chi Ahamakara = yuan shen (the black substance/fire) chitta = ... just storehouse of impressions, or the 'body' that all these energies work upon - yinshen? buddhi = many writers/sources on this describe it as being beyond the mind and also related to psychic intuition. As such as it is beyond the yuan shen cosmologically at least. Ling?

Doctors will recommend surgery with laser. Basically remove it. A family member resorted to it after feeling just as bad after doing natural cures/diets - something with lemon juice fasting, etc. I think the potency of natural cures will depend on the size of the stone - Act fast!

I think it depends from school to school? Some hindu texts say the linga sharira and karana shariras move from body to body as you reincarnate. That is the bodies, but the energies (koshas) are lost. So causal body for example may come into a new life with organ injury/weakness from the previous life. (assuming there was weak anadamaya kosha on the causal body, so it never got any kind of healing to the area; never will it in the new life as well). Although pranamaya can help it heal through many lifetimes or even just one, if there is strong energy in the body. With that said, the self is immortal. I assume, the chit and para kundas target the self, immortal to the body as such, these kundas would benefit one from lifetime to another. So the prana kundalini which can be fairly easily excited ( /scratched) by new agers as well, would bring no lasting benefit.

I believe that part relates to the water element from a western point of view (or Franz Bardons POV..) Are you dry?

no but it too has some kind of energies that swing around it like a cloud, similar to Prana. And that energy must be circulated to release static obstructions in order to let you at that level to function or to have mindfulness non stop. It's also not the spine. But the higher vehicles of consciousness/bubbles of awareness/principles/spheres of activity contain this central channel in some form. It's like the elevator or stairs that unites the various energies, dao with prenatal, prenatal with postnatal, is in the spine. The physic channel does expand past the physical spine. I have seen this myself in meditation. It's also where the chakras act.

Doesn't para kundalini signify liberation?

IQ is an actual yogic siddhi. So NOT something you obtain by just amassing raw substance. Did you see this pdf https://epdf.pub/the-complete-guide-to-genius-increase-your-iq-5ea6bb7d8c810.html ? It was going around a while back

ming! ming is yuan chi, so if you can progress with higher energies, voila you start to wei wu wei outside or 'beyond' the reach of destinity.

Sounds like a technique to improve perception only. Do you find it improves anything else? Hmm nice techniques! But they seem to be somewhat redundant. They are just training perception in my opinion. Of the senses. Mind is a sense too here. Or visualization, thinking and memory/creative thinking are senses too. For example the dark room is a flat out visual perception. Houdini was said that he could walk past a souvenir shop windows in a hurry and then remember every single minute detail, photographically, just from that. To train this, take a walk, preferably. Walk calm not fast. And try to notice everything. Shadows, how many sits in the cars, car body and mirror reflections changing as you pass by, faces in their zoomed-in fullness, how many people, how many concrete slabs on the ground or how many cars in the distance (try to count 'immediately') etc. Just 15-20minutes a day is enough and it will work itself, no effort needed. You will see more and more detail ... just magickally, trust me it works itself, and very fast at that. But have to do it daily. This comes from William Walker Atkinson's book. (Was it the willpower one?) He did say we should train perception of mind first!¬ That is, take a simple object such as a bottle lid in front of you. And note down on a paper every feature you can make out of it. Perhaps even specific, smart applications you can make for it. It should take a few hours at least to move on from the bottle lid haha, you will be amazed how stuff just comes up. I've seen somewhat similar things suggested in some dual n back groups. It all boils down to perception. Basically all your mentation / consciousness / awareness is just an intention. An act of will. The fact that mental and bodily energies follow your intention is just noticing an effect, not the cause. Intention is clothed by what it perceives. Hence we call it awareness, or perception in this universe. I would argue training the visual sense and other senses, such feeling, hearing, etc. can lead to more powerful or at least more practical gains than training what the original exercise ^ trains for - which is essentially a type of memory / thought form perception Or INTERNAL perception (vs EXTERNAL senses perception). You need internal perception to handle the mega input from external perception. I'm not saying you would go psychotic, but you will just be looking at your input like a cat staring at a calendar; unable able to comprehend anything. I'm no pro in the field. I've only tried these things in the past for a little before I quit. I would love to meet someone who has trained all their perception outlets to a pro level.

Regarding permality of it I would say it depends what the cause is. If is like a mental thing you can remove that samskara. If it is a void in life you can fill that. If it tight ligaments. back pain and irritated muscles from weak floor, maybe weak hormones/low libido substance then just eating healthy food or exercising can make you aroused.Just keep at it and things will acclimate at a higher density. Then you will be more free and you will naturally stay in that state. But I would advise...your whole first paragraph is misunderstanding. The key lies in the last line at the end. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT? Seriously, what is your inner most desire? https://youtu.be/DpO-LjkrYhE?t=39

to master postnatal haha funny guy. It will lead to prenatal on it's own, if mastered. But that is not for the curious.

nothing. that is napoleon hills nofap bullshit. the elixir is not made or 'build'. it is found inside. postnatal cannot 'create' prenatal. prenatal cannot 'create' dao. It can only find it . . . if you're asking about the body longevity arts which have nothing to do with finding the Dao/spirituality/etc then you also need to take into account the elixir medicine itself. the postnatal chi dan tien is merely a field for the elixir. proper elixir is made of physical body/substance. lower than post-natal jing on the scale of vibration. essence. lots of old posts on this forum to read further. your original threads question is not specific at all.

The yuan is to make the body live long. But you still reincarnate after uncountable years of living an epic life.To become an actual immortal you must reach the Dao. Only Dao is eternal. Only Dao can do things like teleport across. Prenatal can only appear when it splits, Postnatal can only project when it splits. Dao never split in the first place, it is the fundamental substance. earthly=postnatal? Only healthier, not longer. Postnatal 3 'treasures' don't bring longevity, they only extend to a normal lifespan free of normal diseases. But you do not become immune to poison, cancer or aging itself. There is not one example that defies this. Something like hours daily of tai chi and practicing wei wu wei for mind management take care (preserve) of the prenatal and such people can live longer than say the famous Chang with all his postnatal chi and electric fu. You need pre to live longer. Although it cannot act in this world without postnatal. So the prenatal will maintain your spirit running here but you need a complete postnatal field to act as a grounding port. It's like can you run electricity across the country without copper wires? Well yes, you can use fibre optic cables which run on light inside glass tubes, so there is no dangerous electricity but you woN'T get heat or electricity to the other side - only information.

Only CHI seems to have yin yang . As in practically not metaphorically/philosophically. There's also yuan jing besides postnatal jing, and that's essentially 'higher' than postnatal, so it's more consciousness based than the postnatal 3. Why is it still called a jing? A yuan jing, a yuan chi and a yuan shen, they are something else that comes from somewhere else, maybe with entirely Different purposes/functions ? Why is that? I would imagine lack of names is not the reason So what's so central to all jings and chis and shens?

Interesting thread. I always got the impression that Theravada sticks to the old teachings, or Preserving them like a manual of practice. And Mahayana is the community version where you have people over centuries who practice in their life but also came from different background and were essentially trying to achieve something, just like Gotama. Maybe Mahayana was combined with lineage like structure and Magick to defend against invaders, defend the weak, bring good weather to the crops, restructured to fit current norms or practices that were real etc. So it has all these community extensions that were added over the years, lost, kept, interpreted and reinterpreted, etc. and these weren't necessarily negative contamination but an external influence nonetheless. Would you agree on this view?

Why don't you cite where it says that post-natal chi increases IQ?

it was over when you were not paying attention to anything I was typing. Bringing up facts and the lot. You are right your siddhis are minor. I can feel what you're capable of but you can only feel the 3 in me. Yet very arrogant still.

Stick to the old texts and don't make up facts buddy. Honest investigation and honesty are essential.