redcairo

OMG!  Who needs Replacements when you have the Multiverse at your bidding? (haha)

 

http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/38635-a-glitch-in-the-matrix-the-case-of-the-berensteinberenstain-bears/page-4#entry716356

 

RC

Funny, Luke.

 

I don't know that religions or nations are the deepest reasons humans go to war. I think they are concomitant pre-symptoms perhaps -- but I can envision a world where despite people having their own ways of going about rapport with the divine, self-exploration, and communities based on location, they are not at war.

 

It's like corporations. Fundamentally they operate mostly for evil at the highest level these days but it is entirely possible to operate a corporation so that it is a great thing for everyone directly and indirectly involved and affected. That humans don't choose to do that is not a statement on corporations so much as it is a statement on humans.

 

RC

ROFL!  OMG!  I laughed my head off!

 

"...{election}... and I'm going to run!"

 

"My delight is limited only by my absolute terror, Sir."

 

Freakin hilarious.

 

RC

That was kinda fun! The MIDI thing.

 

I just recently bought a full size electric piano (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LP380BK) which I'm guessing would be slightly more fun if I actually PLAYED the piano... I used to fake it a little 25 years ago when I played guitar very well. I didn't play for all that time... and am just relearning guitar now. I've forgotten 3/4 of my songs (had several hundred, that was my entire life until early 20s), can't play half the ones I do recall, but still it's kind of nice to be touching music again. Only playing my six string dreadnought, not the 12 string or the electric (very nice classic electric though it's so heavy it kills my shoulder). What little I wrote on the piano I pretty much can't remember so I'm genuinely starting from scratch with it and wondering if (at 51) it's worth literally starting from scratch and learning scales and so on from the ground up as I never did that (my father was in the industry so it was always just 'by ear'). I have a lot of good recording hardware, and am trying to consider what software I should get (aside from free Audacity) that doesn't look like it'll take a year to learn to use it. Hoping to record some decent multi-track stuff. This keyboard has MIDI in/out which I had always thought of like a digital version of recording/player-piano but apparently it's not... quite that. I can't tell if that black midi contest was about the music, the video, or both, but it's neat.

 

RC

"I seem to be a verb."

 

-- Buckminster Fuller

When we see him next he'll be a Replacement. :-)

Since I don't watch/read/listen to the news -- except what I get as a result of forums I'm in, and occasionally something like slashdot -- nearly all of that is utterly new and bizarre sounding to me. But... it doesn't sound like Julian is truly with us any longer.

 

RC

 

PS May I just add that collective-summary-and-response-by-proxy in forums is SO much more interesting than just watching the news would be, anyway. :-)

I just love the colors this artist uses and her style!

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=artist+laura+zollar&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimhIas1oDQAhVFz1QKHd9nCloQsAQIMQ&biw=1610&bih=964#q=artist%20laura%20zollar&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACSo29B5QNtXdIjiRi_1wOFJCAOiI06Q9j9eS06qT5pDMR8g8AemTP_1x3R1bAVo1UmYJiHz3c8MhzYnRk5ro0QJs8g5CoSCZGL_1A4UkIA6ERA0n8AlrbHQKhIJIjTpD2P15LQRxSDLx6aSyLwqEgnqpPmkMxHyDxGXxp1vy7U8eioSCQB6ZM_1_1HdHVEXmEVhtMMgsiKhIJsBWjVSZgmIcRFmCPd3lkFbgqEgnPdzwyHNidGRHt-8O_1W0tCpyoSCTmujRAmzyDkEXqoXemagsjG

 

Why do attachments never attach? Sigh. Well if you follow that link it will show you...

 

RC

Oh but where's the fun in that??

 

What is that Chinese curse -- "May you live in interesting times."

 

Watching one's entire nation plummet toward hell in a group handbasket can be very entertaining.

 

For a while.

 

RC

Ha! I'd rather watch a ton of those -- like movie previews -- than debates. :-)

 

RC

This statement says more about the people you have social interactions with

than it says about the likely outcome of the election.

 

Yes -- except it's not social 'personally', so it's not actually local (Ozarks) -- it's social professionally -- basically a lot of meetings with people in our corporate offices in NY, MA, OH, TX, CA-SF for example.

 

I am usually the one 'out' in such social environs anyway -- they make 'flyover territory' jokes and so on, until I say (I try to let ice form on my voice before doing this, just to make the point :-)) "You know, *I* am in the midwest." and then everyone goes, "Oh but not you! You're cool!! And you're from California, so you know, it's probably different with you." (yeah, riiiiight :-)) (And yes. Why would people in OH have the bias norms of CA-SF/MA/NY? Who knows. Media influence??)

 

So it's a collection of people who work in functional roles or lower to mid-level management in a very large publishing company (textbooks, although my area of that world is university-level online edu). They're from around the country. And I seem to be the only one that actually has anything good to say about Trump -- so I don't say it, since they are all rabid and I don't want the bother or the results. But perhaps the edu setting still does filter the people, to some degree.

 

Strangely the people I know best, I have no idea of their vote -- maybe my best friend's, but we've never discussed it -- probably because the people I choose don't talk much about politics with me, on purpose. It's usually the people I know less, which means the ones I work with (as I'm not around people I don't choose to be outside of that!) that have such an evangelist bent they just have to tell me, over and over, how bad that man is.

 

RC

Honestly, for me, they are sometimes indistinguishable.

 

For example, initially my individuation meditations required simply effort. It's a long road.

 

But when you really start making serious inroads into yourself, you are mucking about with fundamental belief systems. Which can be really hairy.

 

Then it gets "hard to get around to" doing these things -- cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.

 

I have had archmeds (as I call them) that literally took six months to get through. I've had meds that literally knocked me unconscious instantly on touching an energy -- wide awake caffeinated well rested sitting up, literally falling unconscious -- and I have had to go back over. And over. And over. And over. Until I utterly lost count, dozens of times, until I realized I had to work in an hour and I'd been sitting in my rocking chair since the evening before, trying to literally get through a SINGLE SENTENCE of "Hello, I honor you" to a certain identity (I call them archetypes, but I'm stretching the common definition in doing so).

 

That requires insane perseverence, but also courage at least in terms of re-approaching that energy until you get it right.

 

But then eventually, when I met the angelic element -- or to be more precise, when I developed the capacity for perceiving the angelic element, a few of whom I had already met but not been able to perceive in that way at first -- eventually, as events changed in my life, I met my current angelic-element. And after some time, he (and some others I was working with) "showed me his true nature."

 

That WAS an 'archetypal form.' Genuine white light, way too much going on in the upper body area (wings? light? I honestly am not sure), lack of definition near the feet, radiant white light hovering in the air and SCARED THE BLOODY HELL OUT OF ME.

 

I mean utter TERROR. Now it is perfectly obvious why the first thing Angels allegedly say in religious writings is "don't be afraid." LOL! 

 

I felt like, as I wrote it not long after, what I defined as "I" was like a shallow skin or cloth, "stitched up with lies." And like he was some kind of Truth that would innately dissolve all of that ("remove the sense of separation" between us -- utterly).  I mean dissolve the me -- a degree of me-ness I never even felt until that moment -- at some atomic level. Even 'death' can't even begin to touch that.

 

I ran from the room. I ate everything I could until I was so stuffed that oddly I felt a little safer. I hyperventilated instantly when I even thought of it and tried so hard not to look up at that part of the room all night.

 

It's been a few YEARS. I am still working on regaining the degree of close relationship I had with him before this event. Divine entities are fundamentally "changing" to a human that experiences them. Change is death I guess. Even if you consciously want it (I do), even if you consciously seek it (I have, for a long time), even if it seems like it would be great and interesting and all that, this does not change the core body-terror or the core inner-terror of the profound and utter level of change we're talking about.

 

Even talking to him takes courage now. Even though I am part of him. Even though I want to accept him. But it's... hard. There is a kind of effort I've never had before. It's like until then I was 'marching' and it was a very hard march, sure. But after that, I had to be willing to basically leap into the fire eyes open. I am still working on that, tiny gradients at a time.

 

So I don't separate them. Fwiw.

 

RC

I assume you guys know that most of the country hears "yada yada email complex bureaucratic BS yada yada" and their eyes glaze over and they JUST. DON'T. CARE. and figure it's mostly some detail and DT is blowing it up just as part of campaigning.

 

Seriously. Nearly everybody I know wants HC in the chair, thinks DT is literally the spawn of satan, and that he disrespects 'women and minorities' so it's got to be HC in the vote.

 

Which of course leads one to recalling that axiom about how people get the government they deserve.

 

Although I'm not sure we deserve either of them. I'd like to think our country deserves a real chance to escape the hamster wheel and DT (and previously Ron Paul 'sorta', and previously Ross Perot) might be a way to do it. But then there is that out of the frying pan into the fire thing. :-)

 

RC

I thought previously the view was that if it wasn't perceivable through the senses it was not real. But now it seems like it's the opposite view, that anything experienced is real. I must have misunderstood one of those. Anyway... I am still trying to track this back to the quoting of me that led to all this... and the base argument I made after: that there is much which needs describing but the only words in our shared-language world tend to be about physical things. So a word like 'darkness' doesn't mean a lack of light by humanoid standards of frequency bandwidth 'only' -- it can mean many other things, including at least one probably too ineffable to have any corollary. But the 'context' for my a-bit-of-defense was that some of the things we have to talk about when addressing daobumian topics :-) don't have words. We have to use the words we have. It requires the ability of a person -- perhaps the "capacity" is a better word there -- to use a combination of empathy, imagination, experience, the sort of "more than the sum of its parts" effect that good poetry can have -- so that the communication can be understood.

 

Otherwise... it seems like there'd be little point to communicating about any topic even slightly esoteric.

 

RC

Thanks Randomer. Wow that sounds like a miserable experience.

 

At one point (I need to resume this. My health issues with heart put everything else off) I was taking liposomal vitamin C (I was taking Aurora brand, which is bottled and has the best price) and liposomal silymarin (sold as Life Extension's 'european milk thistle, advanced phospholipid formula). (Sorry if this is over-detailed but I have been forced to be a health freak for the last several years!) I believe these are the bomb for healing -- with some TMG for most people especially most caucasians. It's a given that I always mean "in the context of a full spectrum of necessary lipids, aminos, and enzymes" of course.

 

Back when I was taking emulsified lecithin+ascorbic (some people call this homemade liposomal C but it's really more micro-emulsified than liposomal -- it is SOME liposomal -- but what % are the liposomes are <200nm as needed who knows) I had a great dream where Tek -- that is what I call my body-intelligence as a guide -- told me that I needed to keep taking the "liver food and repair juice" and that I needed to take it in smaller doses but many more doses through the day. A later dream, he also called it the 'liver food and repair juice' and then I understood at the time the sunflower lecithin was the liver food and the ascorbic was the repair juice.

 

Later, when I'd stopped taking that and then restarted some high-dose large chewable ascorbic tablets, another dream had Tek tell me that he liked the liquid C better than the pills. I need to re-take up the (real) liposomal C and the (even better version) milk thistle (silymarin is the primary active component in milk thistle) in small regular doses...

 

In my skimming research for quite a few years now, nearly everything that helps the liver actually helps all the organs -- particularly the kidneys, gallbladder, pancrease, spleen. I bet the liposomal C and liposomal silymarin combo would be really good for your kidneys and everything else over there. (Lots of published research on silymarin.) It should not be THAT easy to hurt your kidneys -- even if the one supplement pill you took wasn't good -- frankly even if it were arsenic I'd expect anybody to be over it much sooner than you got over that. So clearly something is wrong that isn't getting 'healed' even if you're compensating via energy handling for whatever condition it's in. Lucky you have a good teacher to help with that stuff.

 

RC

Go to pubmed -- improvement in eyesight and lungs are two of the things most studied for serrapeptase.

 

I do not know the precise details of 'how' (if you were being literal), in the same way I also don't know how to build the filaments or even wire the electronics that result in my light switch working to turn on my light -- but I can tell you the details of what happened for me, and a friend and her sister, for whatever that is worth.

 

Eyes: I was nearly bedridden for more than a couple years due to a previous heart condition (now resolved, though healing will take awhile). I couldn't visit the optometrist (as I was not mobile to leave the house at all). I both work and play on a laptop computer, which is neither 'close' like a book nor 'far' like when driving so I don't wear either of the (very old prescription) glasses I have. And this was the case for a couple of years.

 

Lungs: A few years ago I got whooping cough. It was horrible. It took like three months to get over. Everyone around me had it as well. And even though finally I seemed well, my lungs never fully healed. My breathing capacity was noticeably lower, because I'm a singer, and it wasn't just reduced capacity it was actually injury, it was clear. For example, reduced capacity, you simply cannot hold a note as long or sing as strongly, but otherwise it's the same. But injury, it's like you are holding a note and then the air just ends, abruptly. I couldn't sing at all. Even talking often ran into this. There are three 17-19 year olds at the time around me who all had this (gave it to me I suppose), and all that time later, they also still had problems -- two were telling me how they still couldn't go up a flight of stairs without crazy harsh breathing by the time they reached the top, that it was like their lungs were just injured or something.

 

I began taking serrapeptase actually because research shows it works very well on dead proteins (like certain fibrous materials). Due to a likely-genetic condition (lipedema) and a vision I had of my liver (which was very bad looking, and looked a great deal like one I saw on wiki as cirrhosis after I went search, after the med, to review) I thought I could use that. I never had any intent of doing something for my eyes or lungs, although I had seen in passing some research about that, my interest was in the liver, and in some dysplasia-style fibrous tissue in my hips and legs.

 

There are two main brands of the stuff. Neither are cheap. I began taking a fairly high dose of one (Doctor's Best) before sleep. That was all, I did not expect to actually have anything all that "noticeable" since, you know, your liver generally does not give status updates. (Mine might, if I did more meditation. :-)) And as for my legs, the condition is 'currently incurable' and serra is actually a fairly new supplement (certainly was a couple years ago when I began) so I'd never even heard of anybody taking it for that but didn't expect anything noticeable -- I thought perhaps it just might help "under the hood" in addition to maybe, hopefully, helping my liver.

 

If the forum I post health stuff in had any search capacity at all I could give better details, sorry I can't. I don't know how long I took it -- a few months -- before I realized, abruptly actually, that my vision was markedly better than it had been in longer than I could remember. It must have been gradual because I didn't notice it happening. One day I just realized, with shock, what had occurred. I had previously gotten to the point where I could barely read my screen, even with the Windows font increased, and even with the browser default font a bit larger and/or the screen at +1 or even +2 on some sites. And yet suddenly.... I could see everything clearly even when it was much smaller. I was amazed, and told my friends online about it.

 

My friend who had been inspired by my posting lots of research and reviews about the supp before, told me that she and her sister had both been taking it. She had found that her knees hurt a lot less than they used to. She had only recently gotten her sister to begin, as her sister had been using a cane for all mobility for nearly six years at that point.

 

After about another month... maybe two, all the sudden I started coughing. I had been avoiding gluten/glutin and anything that made my body react (back then, before my heart surgery, that was a whole spectrum of things) so having anything wrong with my lungs -- besides the obvious damage of whooping cough that apparently wasn't healing -- was new. For like ten days I coughed like crazy, but the coughs felt super "deep," as if I were coughing up the very BOTTOM of my lungs or whatever is in that area. I spit out tons of crap. And then I stopped coughing. And I could BREATHE. And I could SING -- way, way, way better than I had been able to since that illness long before. It felt, and seemed, clear, that it had basically probably eaten the scar tissue or whatever was going on down at the bottom of my lungs, which enabled my body finally to clear it out, and then I was ok.

 

So again I told all my friends about this, and the woman I mentioned said that for the first time in well over a decade, the fibrous tissue in a certain area of her legs (part of the condition we both have) had gone noticeably done. Enough that custom medical stuff she had ordered prior no longer fit her. Not long later she came back raving about her sister. Who had not only felt massively better in her knees, but now was no longer using a cane! After six years of not being able to stand up or walk without one -- now she could walk stairs, stand, fast-walk, no cane at all. They were both convinced that it was the serrapeptase, as she says her sister had changed nothing else in diet or supplements during that time between starting it, and the apparent healing. Her sister had recommended it to another family member as a result.

 

Now, my friend was taking a different brand, "Serra Enzyme" than me. I pointed out that the price I was getting on Doctor's Best was nearly half hers, and since we were taking a lot of it, she ordered DB next time. But then she came back about a month later and said, this is horrible. It isn't working for me at all. Some of the positive changes are actually reversing. I cannot recall the detail but it actually seemed like she felt kinda sick or something. I was baffled because that brand had seemed nothing but great for me. I ordered some of her brand.

 

At that point a heart condition (a genetic birth defect in a valve) was really kicking up for me (I was officially dying). Because the serra actually made "my blood feel thicker" -- slightly temporarily increased blood pressure, basically it is chewing up these dead proteins, putting them in the bloodstream and they get delivered to the waste systems -- but I had a monstrous problem with my heart and circulation (I was losing, at the end-point before surgery, 70% of the pressure -- and much of the blood -- into the body instead of staying in the veins) -- I had to quit taking serra simply because I couldn't afford taxing my poor heart (and edema) with yet more stuff (the wastes serra was helping get rid of). So I actually have not been taking it in about six months -- two before my heart surgery, four since.

 

My friend went back to her own brand, and said everything resolved and all was well. We still don't know why my DB brand worked for me and not for her. Bad batch? No clue. I never really had the chance to try her brand and see if it made any difference.

 

I'll be returning to that supp before much longer.

 

Hope that helps.

 

PJ

Just to be clear -- I apologize that sometimes my lizard-brain shrinks under a warm rock and I have to coax it out with small words -- you are not, I assume, saying that an experience has to be physically-manifest-objectively-for-others for the experience -- OR (separate) for the-source (e.g. Identities) of what-is-experienced -- to be real/sound, are you?

 

RC

Just to remind about how we find ourselves in the middle of this swamp, it was because I shared an 'insight' I had during a meditation, and then a word that I used in it (darkness) was officially-defined to preclude my use of it. When I defended words having meanings that are more than the 'physical' element, it led to... all this.

 

I feel like it just talked in a backward circle until everyone's dizzy. Was there a point, originally, to the 'correction' of my use of a word in that context? :-)

 

RC

I think it's charming how optimistic you guys are. The stuff on she and Bill way back in his early days in office -- the stuff people read into the congressional record, that Rush Limbaugh used to feature on his show way back then -- was so mind boggling that if that had no effect (they only pursued him over Monica because like Capone, he couldn't be nailed on his actual crimes) nothing else will. She was planned a long, long time ago. The people doing this planning have such massive power over media in particular, and the top level of all authorities, it's not going to matter. And if it does matter they will make sure she gets into office first so anything that happened would still leave her VP and dem policies in place (not because they are dem but because they are not DT who may not be controllable the same way).

 

Just to demonstrate how truly cynical I am, I suspect that if anything comes up that is truly threatening, she will die. 'Accidentally' which is not or via 'health' reasons that are not accidental either. Then none of that will matter and the show will go on without her. But I suspect that is plan B and not the desired outcome at this point.

 

RC

AAAUGH!

 

20 years of IT-related work/management for a living and I crash and burn over a button I never intentionally pressed.

 

I'm going to go soak my head now.

 

Thank you!!!

 

RC

Well most people who dislike capitalism dislike the versions of it the world shows us. Most of which are not capitalism any more than modern russia is true communism.

 

RC

If you guys would stop snarling at each other, this thread might not get locked.

 

:-)

 

RC

Depends on what we are trying to communicate. If I want to be creative then I speak differently, we call it expression.

Expression doesn't have anything to do with emotions or feelings except of course that they can be expressed as can anything else, right.

 

However, expression is really about the values we hold, the things which we fear and the things we love.

Why did you abandon the emotion and feelings words (not that I mind). Were they not qualified to address 'fear' and 'love'? :-)

 

To speak philosophically requires us to give up self expression

Do you really think that human beings can somehow a> express anything without fundamentally including the self, b> actually, even experience anthing without including the self, or c> even have a reality that is not at least half composed of the self?

 

and to think rationally.

I think there is more to thinking than what our culture considers rational-logical. I think there is a form of thinking at every level of the body and each chakra for example has thinking (and feelings although I've only got those for 3 so far) that is specific to its nature.

 

You are locked in the head. It is not the only thing worth validating.

 

It means we work hard to define, differentiate and integrate concepts with regard to our direct perceptions.

...OK. That sounds like nothing is allowed to be considered real or sound if not pre-validated by the filter of our belief systems about reality though.

 

Had I not had these paradigms utterly annihilated so often over the last 25 years I might respect them a little more. I've spent most of this half of my life constantly having to rebuild.

 

Darkness can be expressed as malevolence, ignorance, depression, fear etc, but this isn't defining it.

I did not mean any of those things by what I said. Although at a much, much lower level of what-we-deal-with-in-the-streets I suppose those words could be part of it.

 

No word defines anything in Truth (capital T) though some are accurate (the poor substitute for truth in this realm when people cannot connect to the Tao and feel Truth, IMO), but most words generally convey more than their surface meaning even without that design or intent. There is little language which is not filled with assumptions and enormous amounts of cultural baggage. I am constantly running into this when trying to journalize about my experiences (meditations, dreams, visions, and some of life) and english is just so insufficient for much of it, and often the only words available range from nearly unrelated to confusingly-subtly-misdirecting to must-be-'stretched'-to-work to implies-entire-concept-paradigm-that-is-utterly-wrong.

 

We do what we can. As opposed to sit in some kind of semantic box, like, I'm sorry, half or more of life isn't an objectively measurable object, function or process, so I cannot communicate with my fellow man about it. Should they suggest, for example, that during prayer they were filled by the light, I shall explain to them that skin is opaque, and there is no technology that could fill them with light, aside from which they are already filled with bones and muscles and intestines, and while we are at it I will explain that we could call light things like love or energy but that wouldn't be defining it.

 

I am having fun picking on you, don't stop me now...

 

We are born with the faculties of emotion and cognition. Eventually we come to conceptualise our sensations into emotional categories, but really it comes down to pleasure or pain, it is we who connect these to cognition. A sunset gives us pleasure and we refer to it as a beautiful sunset, then, if we communicate our feelings about the sunset we shift into expressive language.

Yes... although I'm not sure how we got here from where we began. :-)

 

RC

Using the latest version of firefox. No add-ons (everything disabled). No ad blocking or anything. Rebooted, refreshed, cache cleared.

 

The wysiwyg editor is greyed out. Typing results in one plain text long line that scrolls off the right of the editor.

 

No problems in Chrome. But FFX is my default and where I "am" most the time so I want it to work. Any ideas on what might be going wrong??

 

Uploading screenshot.

 

RC

 

OK that didn't work. Hang on will post and link to it...

 

Yes but communication is designed for human experience, which is greatly infused with feelings and emotions (actually I'm not sure what the difference is between feelings and emotions).

 

RC