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I realize life is short so I'm marking this day

Now it's full speed ahead; I'll rest when I'm dead

and I could give a fuck what the next man said

I live how I wanna live

Buy what I wanna buy

Do what I wanna do

Try what I wanna try

Fear nothin, take chances

Not afraid to fail; always making advances

So when I ride on the Grim Reaper Highway,

no regrets bitch, I did it my way

John Cena, If It All Ended Tomorrow

Well, I want my signature and for that need 17 more posts. Luckily I have some quotes in a file. Lost most of them though... Here we go:

"Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest, the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life." - Lord Byron

Before I started to get serious about qigong I looked all over the place for personal experiences on various different methods (don't want to waste my time) - not about feeling enlightened but specifically in what cases it works for your health and when it doesn't. I didn't find a whole lot. People who were already quite healthy seem to feel better, but people who are very sick seemingly remain sick, at least for the most part. Very few people actually get breathtaking results, which seems to indicate (assuming that it does work) information is scattered and it takes a TON of perseverance and experimentation to get to the real results. What is clear is that the people with serious results, like disappearing cancers or MS, really practice two hours+ a day and get energy from a master, at least in the beginning.

Chunyi Lin's reviews are very interesting, but to me by far the best book on practical qigong experiences stems from 1980 and is largely based on the work of Mantak Chia. This is before Chia even began publishing his (rather disjointed) books. The book is entitled:

1980, Lawrence Young M.D., Reports of the national clearinghouse for meditation relaxation and related therapies, volume I.

http://www.universal-tao.com/archives/report_nationalclearinghouse.pdf

Thank God for Wikipedia these days, but before its Mantak Chia page, this book was the only one that simply listed the nine levels taught by Chia (which he learned from his master Yi Eng of the Dragon Gate sect). So you know, the levels are:

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• Level 0/I: Healing/Inner Smile; Healing Sounds
  
• Level I: Opening the Governor & Conception Meridians (the two main extraordinary meridians; Microcosmic Orbit)
  
• Level II: Fusion of the Five Elements (opens the six other extraordinary meridians: belt, thrusting, etc.)
  
• Level III: Lesser Enlightenment of the Kan S Li (opening the 12 regular meridians: kidney, liver, lung, LI, SI, etc. Bringing together of the heart yang fire (Li) en the perinium yin water (Kan) in the cauldron/tan tien)
  
• Level IV: Greater Enlightenment of the Kan & Li (seriously beginning to lose me here; the mixing of energies move to the solar plexus; external energies are drawn in)
  
• Level V: Greatest Enlightenment of the Kan & Li
  
• Level VI: Opening the Six Special Channels
  
• Level VII: Opening the Thirty-two Meridians
  
• Level VIII: Gathering the Power to Restore Energy
  
• Level IX: Passing the Power from the Hand.
  

Imo Chia's system is the most "scientific" (even though it's still absolutely terrible in this aspect) of all the qigong systems, because it works with the meridians. And it's a fact that they exist - science is limited but definite on that subject. So it is also the system that is the easiest to integrate with TCM: acupuncture, acupressure and moxatherapies. What is clear is that even in stage I it goes WAY deeper than these more public practices, even though it is much slower and much harder on the mind.

But what makes Young's book so great is hearing so many people discussing how their health improved each time they moved up a level. I would love to gather these testimonies in one forum thread; doesn't really matter which qigong system has been used.

So let me begin... At this point I've been working on Level 0/1 of Chia's system over the past year. I'm just working to clear the blockages all along the Ren and Du meridians. It's a slow process but it works. I've been using acupuncture (without any permanent success), acupressure (with great success... some points don't even exist in the books or little is known about them, even though they had great effect in me... also felt many meridians while working on the points), moxa, and for qigong mixed up the practices of Zhan Zhuang, Chunyi Lin (moving of Yin & Yang and the way he teaches the microcosmic orbit/small universe) and Mantak Chia. Also played with the book Qigong Empowerment, but it's not very detailed on the microcosmic orbit. Not a bad book though.

By the way, tried to trigger an out of body experience, just for fun. I was very close when I was sixteen, but now it's absolutely impossible. It completely fires up the meridian system and causes extreme discomfort - so it's undoubtedly a good practice. Sometimes I had great pain in the heart (so it's still not fixed); other times in the large intestine meridian of the left arms (which Ryodoruku shows is my weakest meridian). Amazing how everything is related.

With every practice I wrote down in detail all the experiences and "westernized" them a bit so I can do 'em for hours on end (especially with Zhan Zhuang). There's a ton of remarkable stuff I experienced, but here's what is the most important... the results on my health at this point (Yeah, I really got messed up in recent years):

I fixed in myself:

• Many (extremely) painful spots around my eyes and along the Conception Vessel on my entire stomach are gone.
  
• A relatively red nose due to many tiny veins - cleared up for 80% percent.
  
• My nose was completely stuffed since last year, mainly at night or when lying down. It has opened quite a bit, but needs a lot more work.
  
• Serious hay fever has cleared up (solved it during the height of hay fever season, mainly by focusing on the Yin-Ting/Eyebrow point). Can now go out all day during hay fever season... maybe one sneeze when I get back inside. That's it.
  
• A seriously broken heart (a gaping hole in my chest and pain like I get a heart attack... Got hay fever symtoms while working on it and was emotionally transported back to moment some of this stuff happened)
  
• 95% of dandruff in eyebrows and hair is gone. Playing around with homeopathy remedies brought initial result, but soon caused massive hair loss (am not bald though, but was seriously thinning in recent years on the front of my head. Hairs were all over the place in my bed, desk, etc.). Qigong improved things further without the adverse effects.
  
• Hair loss (a ton of painful points on my head along the GV meridian... fixing it (maybe at 75%) with MMA style bridging and some qigong... huge amount of intensely "cold" energy there that I was able to get rid of... by pointing my palms there while watching my favorite TV series).
  
• My digestion greatly improved. Let's not go into too much detail, but the "gas" aspect I definitely need to curb further. That was my initial problem 12 years ago that caused a ton of neverending stress... and therefore a chain reaction.
  

Guess I'm lucky because I've always been fascinated with fixing stuff like this in an alternative way. Guess you need to have problems in order to figure that stuff out. Haha.

So anyone else had some breakthoughs? Emotional stuff is great, but physiological changes are the real wonders. Love to hear all your experiences. It's also a great way to motivate people.

Basic questions to answer:

1. What health benefits have you enjoyed from doing qigong or TCM?
   
2. What form did you practice when you had those results and how long did it take?
   

Update: Darn it! Somebody change "Hemmroids" into "Hemorrhoids".

Yes I suppose most taoist masters who stay secluded up in the mountains and most buddhist monks who stay secluded in the forest monasteries are full of fear.

Well, they were usualy doing something useful, like non-stop deep meditation in order to enhance their insight in what life's all about or developing special abilities - instead of, let's say, philosophizing on a forum.

Personally I love the (scientific) reincarnation point of view: you kinda need to have experienced everything (good or bad), made every mistake and such. If it's your time to sit in a cave, meditate and get more insight the circumstances will be created for you.

If you feel inspired to push away a beautiful girl, abstain from all pleasure in life and it really makes you feel good, that's probably what you need to be doing. If you do not feel happy and fulfilled it's probably a mistake you have to make and you'll realize one day, in this life or the next.

Sorry but in my experience Chia is nice for a beginner to internal arts but as a practice its worthless crap.

Damned, 20 more posts before I can add a signature. Ow well.. Hopefully my posts get decent Google rankings.

Anyway, I've read a lot of flak here against Mantak Chia. Seems to be just people spewing their uninformed opinions or people who like to follow something more exotic (less well kown). I have a whole database on different styles of qigong. Experimented with many and made detailed notes. Most are way way way too vague. Qigong mainly is very primitive and unscientific. That undoubtedly has a lot to do with money, because eeryone is trying to make a living. Move your hands like this, think about this, gently press this one single acupuncture point and you'll be superhealthy. It all comes down to "do as I say... don't question the master". Don't figure out better ways.

Fact is, Chia's system can actually fix all kinds of diseases that modern science cannot and you don't have to enirely "believe". Plenty of clear and personal testimonies on it, in contrast to virtually any other qigong system. The orbit is based on fact... Ren Mai and Du Mai actually exist, as do all the individual acupuncture points (which too little emphasis is put on). They really are connected to all the other meridians. And in Chia's system, opening the orbit is phase I. He teaches at least 4 other stages, at least back in the early 1980s. Often you read that opening the orbit doesn't complete cure a disease, but by stage III this is virtually always the case. And most of these stages actually deal with opening meridians that are KNOWN to exist - can't vouch for the tan tiens but it seems a pretty safe bet they exist. The microcosmic orbit is very powerful and much more detailed than Zhan Zhuang (which imo is made unneccasry complicated, just to promote the idea that you need pay to see a master. Also "secret" info is left out). The latter won't clear blockages that well if they are serious. Also, acupressure is absolutely essential in cases of serious blockages. In my case it was even much more effective(and quicker) than needles.

My problem with qigong is that modern science doesn't get involved with it. And because of that you don't have any truly good books. Chia's books absolutely suck even though the basic information is incredible. The information is spread out over more than a dozen books and they are loaded with what can easily be seen as superstition. You can't even figure out the steps from all his different books... you have to study wih him (or read an outside book from 1980 of some MD who worked with Chia and one or two other masters). You are asked to "believe" instead of him really backing up what he says, whether it is by relating his personal experiences, those of his students, or studies that have been published. Hell, I myself can show Ryodoraku measurements to people... That's the very least that could have been done.

We in the West can do things much better. Looks at the martial arts. Try comparing MMA or Krav Maga to the old martial arts... no comparison. For the first time you can REALLY learn to fight. The BJJ aspect, especially the no-gi version is still being improved everyday. That's the kind of adventurous attitude we also need with qigong. But qigong is more boring of course. Chia, Chunyi Lin, Lam Kam Chuen... they give us serious info that for the first time will allow anyone to REALLY fix themselves. So find out what works. Integrate their tachings... and science needs to get involved.

My two cents.

Still would love to know what people fixed about themselves with what system and if they feel their tan tien, with or without heat.

As to how Mantak Chia "survived" keep in mind I didn't say semen retention would kill you if you did it for a long time, so I don't think survival is the issue. The point I was making was that the point of semen retention is the issue of conserving your pre-natal jing, not surviving.

Thanks for your info and personalexperiences on the cold draw/testicle breathing, Matt. Read your experiences a couple of months ago. Was surprised to feel the cold energy. My orbit clearly isn't open enough. Can feel the energy going up through the tailbone and towards the Ming Men... but there I lose the sensation. The changes "down there" are immediate. Everything "goes down"... testicles tighten up also, I believe. And sexual desire drops. Still, after about a week I'm exploding. At that point I start getting extremely restless/emotional/romantic and it seems that any energy that I draw off is immediately circling back. Like there's excess energy in my veins that needs to be used. So I'm not moving it entirely away at this point I guess.

As for insight it gave me: Sexual desire and emotions are a strange thing. Basically most romantic feelings are linked to sexual desire. Real love is very calm - even boring. Must say that I've only loved one person/girl in my life (not the same as a crush or just being "in love" - hard toexplain in English). Seems to be relatively rare, or my capacity for love is just a little low.

I know/knew a girl who made my sex drive go absolutely berserk. Also deeply loved her. However, I have a fight with her and the sex drive is completely broken (temporarily). Love not though. Funny though, she kind of short-circuited my whole system. My sex drive with other very beautiful girls (not that I have the luxery to get them without some serious effort), even during the deed, has been quite low since that point. I feel great after sex, not drained at all. But if ejaculation really draws away your vital energy over time (which I kind of think is true) it can be dangerous to have a wife whom you both love and desire very much. She's slowly killing her man. Better get that orbit of mine functioning properly. Haha.

Thanks!

Hopefully some people with more expertise than myself will chime in soon, but my thoughts are that intense heat in one area is not necessarily so good...

The heat in the tan tien is reported by practitioners of Mantak Chia and related systems where the focus is on the Qi-Hai/CV-6. It's the only location in the body where excess amounts of energy can be stored safely. The students with the really great results, meaning the dissolution of serious ailments (almost unreported by the average forum dweller), virtually all report stages of intense heat in the tan tien. This heat (the filling of the cauldron with jing energy) is then used to open up the other points on the orbit.

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Would love to go inside the pyramids one day. Find out if it gives me a special feeling. I once bought such a pyramid to preserve food... didn't work... at all.

Also would like to see some of the alleged monster-size stones. Hard to believe ancients stacked all those stones. The only interesting mainstream argument that I've seen is that some stones were poured into place, but haven't looked into that in detail. Wouldn't be surprised if the ancients found some way to lift the stones. Don't have much of problem either with the iodea that the great pyramid is older. It were the Egyptian priests who told Solon that society was much older than the Greeks knew. It was them who told about Atlantis behind the, what was it, the "Pillars of Hercules"? Ancient Greeks were at war with them until Atlantis went down in some kind of catastrophe... coincidentally exactly at the end of a major ice age. Not my expertise, but I believe quite a bit of Egyptian-like artifacts have been found in the south of the U.S. and the Caribbean over the years, part of it at the bottom of the ocean. Suspect the pillars indeed were Gibraltar or some other western end of the Greek empire and that Atlantis (Atlantic Ocean?) was beyond that. Guess it was in the Caribbean. Egyptian-like mystery religion... yes. Likely. But aliens and high-tech stuff... Nope. That Coast to Coast AM promoted bs.

It's probably a national security issue to keep alternative theories about the great pyramid and their dates outside of the mainstream. I mean, people into that often have spiritual ideas that can't be allowed to grow. Will upset the present world order, especially in the United States. Christian conservative movement is a real treasure for domestic and U.S. foreign policy. The liberal establishment is dominated by the Anglican and episcopal churches (and the Scottish Rite). The Vatican, allied mainly with the conservative U.S. establishment, speaks for itself. But oil, minerals, security of big business from socialism, communism, nationalism, etc. - alll have much greater priority than so-called space crafts below the pyramids. Pretty sure checked for that a long time ago. And people like Nasser and Mubarak wouldn't have ruled that country for so many years if there really was something like that down there. Bitches like that would be taken out in three seconds if it is truly that important.

People do need to be managed. So you give 'em shows like Coast to Coast AM and websites like Rense or things like the Disclosure Project. All ran by elements tied to the CIA and Pentagon, as is 9/11 Truth and the majority of sites and authors on JFK. Plenty of evidence (which I won't discuss here). Without support of these radio shows and sites (outside of massive promotion by a publicist) ideas can't grow. So these outlets make sure to keep the alternative alternative by mixing in 5 percent fact with 95 percent bs: lluminati, Reptilian, Planet X, Mars artifacts, 2012, high tech Atlantis crap, and throw in all the mystery religion stuff. So people are completely 100% confused and don't go looking into the real stuff. Ah, it's the only way to make a living anyway in conspiracy land. Give half a dozen decent investigators 10 years, put a camera/microphone under their nose and they can explain everything. No more need for the alternative. I give Graham Hancock and a few other authors on the Pyramids the benefit of the doubt for now, but he would be one of the very few independent authors prominently promoted by the alternative. Means he's no national security threat. I speak from personal experience on that by the way.

Ah, download is complete. Have to do my homage (rant style) to Drew Hempel another time.

Was just looking this up, as I seldom do it. Sometimes after a long session I get so hot and there's so much "buzzing" all over the place that it's totally impossible to sleep.

So... in Zhan Zhuang they put their hands on their navel area for for 2-5 minutes after each session and just relax. I never had the patience for that (and all the other details) and even without it a ton of heat was generated that I would feel for two days after. But like I said, probably gets more important as you progress. Was doing it for 30-40 minutes or so at the time. No sleep only gets a problem after several hours at a time.

As for Chia's instructions:

"Concentrate on your navel as you place your right fist there. Then rotate your fist thirty-six times clockwise, allowing the circle to grow larger until it is no more than six inches in diameter (not higher than the heart nor lower than the pelvis). Then reverse the direction of rotation and rotate twenty-four times in a counterclockwise direction, gradually shrinking the circle until it returns to the navel. A woman reverses the order of rotation, first rotating counterclockwise thirty-six times and reversing the direction and shrinking the circle while rotating clockwise twenty-four times back to the navel. To determine direction imagine a clock at your navel. Women finish by collecting the energy in the navel and circling it 36 times counterclockwise and 24 times clockwise."

Chia picked the 36 times because this is the amount of rotations he could feel when an energy center opened... or something like that. I don't think it's that important, but I prefer Chia's method. Faster than the one in Zhan Zhuang - because Chia doesn't say anything about the speed you can rotate... Hehe.

Been working on my health since last year and one the things I'm after is opening my microcosmic orbit. Turned out it was plugged from all sides. Now, after many months most of the painful spots are gone (rub them away or point your palms at them while concentrating on the spot), my emotions are much better and some physical ailments have improved or are gone.

I have kept a lengthy log of all my sensations and improvements during this period. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Ren and Du channels (Conception and Governing vessels) exist: I felt many acupuntucture points, streams of energy, tingling, intense heat, etc. Even tried testicle breathing. Amazing how cold that feels and how the sex drive goes to zero (although my channels aren't open enough to completely remove the energy... after a week I can do all the testicle breathing I want...)

Still there are a few things that bother me. Like a said, a lot of things have improved. And things like my hay fever were completely gone after focusing on the yin-tang for several hours. The hay fever had become very severe last year and the qigong showed it was strongly related to bad emotions that same year. However, I am still waiting to feel ANY heat in my lower stomach... You know, where the tan tien is supposed to be.

Granted, the first time I focused there for 20 minutes I fell asleep and woke up thinking I had dropped a burning moxa stick just below my belly button... so intense was the heat. But I NEVER felt any heat anymore thereafter. It's my most severe problem area there, so in the beginning there was lots of pain, gurgling and spastic movements. That all settled down and after 50 hours or so digestion was greatly improved. But it's still far from perfect after... I don't know... 150-200 hours.

This greatly annoys me since the lower belly/tan tien/cauldron is the motor of the entire meridian system. Even though I'm quite young (29) and have a strong body, my yang energy definitely is trapped somewhere or overall down. The tongue diagnosis shows it clearly and especially my nose still has a tendency to get very cold (noticed that during an occassional stress attack cold energy literally rushes into my nose). Acupuncturists have not been able to help (in contrast to my own acupressure and qigong) so that's no option. I need to kickstart that cauldron.

So my basic question is if there are any people here who feel (very significant) heat in the lower belly when focusing here... And how long does this take for you?

I assume in the long run I will feel it too (nervous energy is still trapped there... definitely), but really want some reassurance that there actually are people who feel heat, like Mantak Chia describes, for example. I can get strong sensations at the Ming Men (first time there was heat also) and some sensation at other points, but the tan tien/Qi Hai/CV-6/Belly Button area is very unresponsive with me. Except for gurgling and very minor sensations. Can't hop to the U.S. to get Chia or Chunyi Lin to kickstart it for me so will have to do it myself.

I would just love to post my question in the general discussion forum.