orb

 

As for Gurdjieff's "kundabuffer" -- yes I've read Gurdjieff A LOT -- his final book (unfinished) gives his further views on the Kundabuffer but it was the most central idea in his magnum opus -- Beezlebub's Tales.

 

Though impressive that you have read Beelzebub's Tales (not Beezlebub's) you understood exactly the opposite my friend:

First of all, "kundabuffer" is an organ that we don't have anymore as it has been removed long time ago so you can't open smth that you don't have.

Second, it was meant to determine people to "see the reality upside-down" and although it served a good purpose for the moment in the history when the terrible accident happened to our planet - it turned out to be the worst invention for the humanity with devastating consequences for our souls(psyche), consequences that we can't get rid of to this very day.

Third, Gurdjieff has nothing to do with the taoist practices and concepts like "cultivation/circulation of chi" etc. so why bother mentioning him at all.

More important Master Nan, Huai-chin ALSO sits in full-lotus all day and night long (for more time than not). So... call that "empty" meditation if you want but full-lotus opens up what Gurdjieff called the Kundabuffer -- the small of the back and the main "organ" putting modern males into delusion.

Hey Drew, have you actually read what Gurdjieff called Kundabuffer ? It sounds to me that you just used that reference here without knowing what u r talking about. I have read reference to Gurdjieff in an earlier post on this forum related to taoism and the Kundalini theory and again it was totally distorted. I hope the rest of the info people provide on this forum is better documented and not as misleading.

For those interested in alternative medicine this is a great documentary:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=16...sjECQ&hl=en

Thx for posting this - that's some cool stuff...

White lights around the head does not look like this. Just drop it guys.

 

Thank you ! The whole "lights around the head" discussion sounds really pathetic.....

In the western occult tradition there has been a tradition of secret societies or societies with secret such as the freemasons.

 

I started thinking about how that I have never heard of a eastern secret society, is it that the western atmosphere against certain tradition made it a necessity to hide it?

 

I am not talking about certain masters revealing new exercises when the student was ready, I am wondering if there is any organized teaching schools on a wider scale that has/is secretive in their nature.

 

In my opinion there has been more openness in the east(I am generalizing, I know) regarding different tradition of the more esoteric aspects of the universe. If you wanted to be a part of them you became a monk and there was not so much hush hush about thing.

 

Is this the case or am I being totally ignorant?

 

//john

To my knowledge most of the real esoteric schools are still secret and most of them are still in the East, I would say 99% of them. Some of them are actually hidden within another form of organisation. Let's say you want to learn about a certain type of method that is both rare and hidden and somehow you find the place. That knowledge could be carried by only certain individuals and even if they are part of a monastery the rest of the monks will never be told about that and so even if you asked around they just don't know about its existence. Some knowledge can be transmitted only to a certain level of being of a man. So even if they tried to give it to you - if you are not there yet you can't get it etc... Real knowledge is both limited and rare. Sometimes you can run into it by accident or maybe Karma/good luck what have you, so there is a chance. On the other hand esoteric BS is everywhere and can take any form and is even extremely contagious so if you stick around this forum and you keep your eyes opened you'll see a lot of it....Occasionally though, there's some very good stuff even here...

great video , thanks!

 

dont know if this one was posted yet ...:

 

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=lM2mIPHPCMU

 

greetings, jan.

wow, great stuff. Thx for the link.

Funny. You obviously don't have much but an opinion on this subject. But to be fair to your point of view there are a lot of people simply acting out formula's hoping 'something will happen.' They usally give up in the end if they dont find their way in.

Magic changed my entire way of relating to the universe, permanently. The Energy one learns to access is enormous. One learns to strongly interact with the raw Forces and Intelligences of the Universe.

I will be Eternally grateful for my period in the Magical Tradition.

Seth.

Sat Chit Anand.

p.s. check out the Middle Pillar Exersize. what is it but a ritualized western form of the Microcosmic Orbit. it has the front, back, sides, and thrusting-middle channels. it also includes the Auric field. And is Highly charging.

Hey Seth, besides interracting invisibly with the Universe and being eternally grateful can you do anything unusual? I would be very curious to see anything that you can demonstrate.

Thank you.

Cool video. But either the translation is wrong, or they're a little strange Buddhists to speak about god being incarnated.

It's a little bit of both - they use the word "GOD" and refer to anything that is spiritual or holy so to speak.

If i am going to do alternate nostril breathing I will do it under the guidance of a teacher from the Bihar tradition that I know and respect. I would want to do it daily but only for about 5 minutes. The effect on me is a wonderfull feeling og harmonisation of my brain and body and a deep feeling of relaxation and concentration in perfect balance. I just don`t achieve anything near this from asana or meditation. Actualy it kind of feels like what I have to do in order to be able to meditate properly. It feels like a I have an energy problem that can be corrected very well by this practice so that my other practices work well and not the other way arround.

 

That sounds pretty safe. Let me know how it goes if you don't mind.

 

 

It seems to me that alternate nostril breathing although powerfull, seems fairly harmless since it is taught very, very widely. I can`t realy imagine that it would be taught in beginners yoga courses all over the place if it created problems for a lot of practioners.

 

Thanks in advance for any input you might have:)

What they teach in the beginners courses doesn't create problems because people don't do these exercises for too long and too serious.

Breathing exercises are a powerfull method of tweaking your body's functions to obtain certain desired results. Doing them from a book just for good health it's totally not worthit. One of my buddy's got really close the edge with breathing experiments and luckily stopped juuust in time. He hasn't gone back to those exercises in over 8 years and I doubt that he ever will.

Without a very good teacher and close supervision you could cause irreversible damage to your body and it's almost guaranteed to mean GAME OVER.

The fire ritual he is performing is called Homa, a miniature form of the Vedic Yajna, that is typically performed for the well-being of the people in that region, for health, peace etc. The rolling part is just something that is not a part of the ritual and it "happens", when he let's go at the peak of the ritual. Now, how do you know his ritual did not add one wee bit to world's peace?

Thx for the extra explanation bro - I'm pretty sure a man with his power has quite a strong and beneficial influence on his surroundings - it's just that with my pragmatism I am thinking at a different scale for example if he taught me how to do that I would probably become a fireman or smth.....

It's very impressive and extraordinary it's just one thing I don't get - he says that he is doing it for the world's peace ? He must not be rolling in fire long enough....

 

the 110 lb Indonesian Pendekar will probably have a 1" blade hiding somewhere that is possesed by Khodam or a Jinn & he has been dipping it into piss, fecal matter, frog & spider venom on for years so all he would do is Prick you once you either get paralyzed, get a severe infection or DIE....

 

 

Lol Vaj ... thx for the tip! Never heard that one before.

NOTE TO SELF -. (if the indonesian next to you smells like shit and piss - prepare to die! ).

Was that.. Ron Paul you meant?

YES!

Obama for president !

Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink

Mastery of money and being able to have independence in life due to the acquiring of money is one stage of our training and practice in these modern times.

 

Look at how to gain the money, what work or projects you could do, and take the steps.

 

You may be surprised at who you meet along the way, and what lessons and transformations take place.

 

It took me many years to make a relationship with money, and learn my lessons about it.

 

For me it helped to have a goal.

 

Save the money to support an advanced practice program in the future.

 

Use money as a tool to create independence and freedom from the confines of modern society.

 

Do not let money use you.

Nice post.

There are a few different ways to attain your spiritual goal. One way would be to leave everything and everybody behind and enter a monastery - it could be taoist, buddist, sufi etc.....- one doesn't need much money for that that's "the way of the monk". Another way would be to stay in the society in which case you need the money - because its the nature of the beast - you gotta pay your teacher - he needs to eat just like you do - so its a fair trade he's got smth you want, you gotta pay him in return - so YOU HAVE TO MAKE MONEY. Many people however, try to combine the two ways - Stay in the society and not produce any money - which is impossible - but since so many people are trying it, slowly we created a 3rd way - THE WAY OF THE BUM. We don't have the balls to leave everything behind and become monks, we don't want to work hard to make money either - so why don't we do nothing all day long besides our precious meditation and wait until something very tasty is going to fall straight into our bowl because somebody up there just infinitely and completely loves us !

Well you can google "O at a D" -- but I'll give this new description:

 

I took the Spring Forest Qigong classes from Master Chunyi Lin and I wrote a pamphlet discussing various meditation methods. In the pamphlet I said that qigong master Chunyi Lin was the most powerful qigong master in the U.S. He read the pamphlet and said to me: "you can't write that. You can say that I'm very wonderful."

 

Anyway so back to the O at a D thing. As I continued my practice on my own I discovered that when this old pervert I live with would jerk off at night in the bathroom, adjacent to my bedroom, he would pull my electromagnetic energy down, converting it back into fluid. He was essentially sucking off my energy while I was asleep.

 

So instead of practicing qigong in my room (since the old man would just suck in that energy and use it to jerk off) I would practice a bit in my room and then hang more in cafes, restaurants, libraries, etc. and continue my reading. What I found was that females were hitting on me really strongly -- all females -- girls, fat ladies -- didn't matter. One time I was reading in McDonald's and this girl demanded to make her family sit by me and then she started flirting with me really strongly right in front of her mom. She then got into my booth, staring at my crotch, talking in a really flirtatious manner. So SHE was also sucking me off -- right in front of her mom! Another time this fat african-american lady in the library got up to my ear and started making these pervert sounds to me. Another time this group of black girls in the park, when no one was around, came up on me and started talking to me in an aggressively sexual manner.

 

To "defend" myself against females hitting on me so strongly in public -- sucking me off -- I took to sitting in full-lotus in public as a preemptive strategy. While in full-lotus there's no way the energy would be turned into fluid. I didn't think much of it but then once I was in McDs hanging with a buddy and this high school female worker did a backside female display, standing right in front of my eye sight. The effect was a surprise to both of us -- she made some wild noise, bursting out in excitement and I climaxed up my back while in full-lotus. Then next time I went into McDs she pushed aside the clerk so that she could take my order and she was absolutely giddy.

 

I was forced to accept what had happened: An "O at a D" or "mutual orgasm at a distance." This is a play on "action at a distance."

 

Just to keep a check on things so that I would have critical feedback I then posted my experiences -- my experiments -- over at http://breakingopenthehead.com -- with females responding.

 

What happened was that I discovered a secret world which females lived in and the typical modern male is totally unaware of. The female would pick up my electromagnetic energy and suck it up using female display behavior which consists of lining up her backside with my eyesight, or her crotch, or her eyes, or stretching her breasts in line with my eyesight.

 

I discovered that the first two climaxes (female) using the vagus nerve are build-ups while the third causes the loss of some clear fluid -- just a bit. When I was recently reading Mantak Chia's "Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" he also described the same thing, stating that the clear preseminal fluid a bit of which comes out of the penis -- came from the prostate gland.

 

I also discovered that females would work in these mutual climaxes with me even while they could have a conversation with someone else -- in other words essentially we have two brains: The cerebrum and the cerebellum. The two can and SHOULD be synchronized so that we live in constant bliss and tension is constantly relieved. Instead the modern male is stuck in the left-brain of language which does not allow the right brain to activate the autonomic nervous system of the vagus nerve.

 

So I just had a mutual climax. The young hot female was bouncing her leg -- and therefore sensing and trying to suck up my energy. Since I'm in full-lotus the energy was being shot out but wasn't being efficiently directed. I just kept my head down since that is a submissive behaviour for humans. I didn't stare but I did shift my body position so that the intensity of the pineal gland energy was shooting directly towards her. The climax then happened in just about 20 seconds and then she stopped bouncing her legs.

 

When I was in the charity food kitchen today a female with whom I had "O at a Ds" a couple visits back -- through direct eye contact -- this time adjusted her backside so that she could better suck up my energy. She used that female display behavior along with crossing and bouncing her legs. I just ate my lunch on full-lotus and meanwhile got the tension out of my neck -- from sleeping.

 

OK I just went out of full-lotus as the pain was getting so strong that I would have had to have an "O at a D" to relieve the pain. In other words I can sit in full-lotus endlessly as long as these free energy exchanges continue.

 

I could just point my forehead towards my palms and use what I call the "Yan Xin Secret" -- which means you shoot the light out of the pineal gland into the palms in front of the lower tan tien and then this reflects back -- essentially having sex with yourself (the electrochemical yin being the lower half of the body and the electromagnetic yang being the upper half). That is was tantra is -- the palms in front of the stomach are holding a female who is riding on top of you. The difference is that the female energy is much stronger for females (obviously) -- so they suck up the male electromagnetic energy much more easily, thereby causing the climax more easily.

 

Consider Santiago's statement to me about the limp dildo -- well this morning (as I got home around 4:30 a.m.) I slept in until my room was too hot and I was overdressed. So I had this dream that I was eating out this young female. I climaxed but I woke up fast enough and used reverse breathing by training -- so that the fluid went all up my back. Immediately I could feel my lower back all blissed out.

 

Then I thought - why did I dream I was eating out this young female? Ah the tongue was the limp dildo that Santiago had thought was some kind of loss of manlihood. haha.

 

OK so some people think I'm making up this "O at a D" thing. Early on I was obviously kind of excited that I had caused this mutual climax with this young female. So I wanted to test it out. I went to this reading area and there's these tables where people sit across from each other. I sat across from this young, very attractive female -- at the University. Reading while in full-lotus directly across from her -- she a few feet fromt me. After the first mutual climax she put her head down to go to sleep. Then as the energy built up again -- right at the second climax -- she lifted her head up and looked right into my eyes. She then put her head back down again. At the third, "real" climax she lifted her head up but this time she had tears in her eyes.

 

I felt bad about that as she was a sort of yuppie white female -- fancy hairdo and clothes, etc..

 

In contrast another time I was at McDs and the clerk was the young, big African-American female. She was about thirty feet from me while I was reading in full-lotus. After the first two climaxes she then just STARED right into my eyes -- we stared at each other straight on. When we climaxed her back arched and she then shook off all this stress. It was excellent.

 

I've seen that response several times -- the next time it happened with this young girl at BK. She actually incorporated the full-body shudder into her conversation with her dad. They were speaking in Spanish which I understand fairly well. I lost quite a bit of clear fluid -- just like some stringy stuff. I went to the bathroom because at that time, soon after I had discovered this ability, I wasn't sure if I had blown a load or what.

 

I was pretty creeped out by that -- how a young female had caused that. She had sat down near me and had sucked up the electromagnetic energy. So either that night or the next day I was at a cafe by my living place. I was at the computer which faces the wall -- across from the register. Suddenly this young girl sits down across from me with her dad across from her. She kept throwing one leg over the arm of the chair so that her crotch was facing directly at me -- about a couple feet from me -- and then she would swing her leg. She did this to pump in my electromagnetic energy and she did it just long enough for the mutual climax. As she did it she would tell her dad that she was "bored." Since her body language was so blatant she would then throw her leg back over the arm chair and then wait for my full-lotus energy to build up again and then she would throw the leg back over the arm of the chair and pump in my energy until the "O at a D" happened.

 

O.K. so then I read this book "Moral Animals" by Dr. Marc Hauser or something -- he's a Harvard biology professor I think. Anyway he writes how even by the age of 4 females will lie if they think their behavior will offend their parents. I then learned that Bushmen kids were sexually active but they just couldn't do it in front of their parents. But this stuff is cultural -- if a young female is with her mom then sometimes the mom will actually encourage or train the female -- either times just pretend not to notice. Sometimes the females -- like college age -- will compete for the "O at a D" energy and so one of the females will have to be sly about it, etc.

 

Ooops forgot to mention I went back into full-lotus -- it's just habitual for me. The reason I noticed is because this young female is sitting across from me a couple tables over and when I looked at her my adam's apple and vagus nerve started pulsating -- her energy was soaking up the electromagetic energy. OK so then she just turned her backside to me and then started pumping her legs. We just had an O at a D -- she's native american I think. And then she sauntered off.

 

And so it goes. Now again as for confirmation that these are real. One time I was sitting at this anarchist cafe and the girl in the booth across from me had some "O at a Ds" with me and then her female friends joined her. I heard her describe me as "orgasmic." Then another time I was at the Taco Bell and this black lady started doing really crazy behavior -- she exposed her breast to me and then shook her backside in my face -- very literally. I was of course in full-lotus but more importantly she had been dancing next to me at the BK a couple nights previous to our Taco Bell encounter. At the BK she went to me -- on the other side of the restaurant -- and started singing x-rated lyrics loudly next to me. No one was near us. The young females on the other side of the restaurant noted that when she went back across to get her food she was perfectly courtesy to the BK workers, in contrast to her bizarre behavior next to me. So at the Taco Bell her pimp comes in -- with a customer - the pimp has a felt hat and -- some sort of pimp outfit. This is online already so just google "O at a D." Anyway so the prostitute looks at me and arches her back and says to her pimp: "I'm coming already!"

 

Other female display behavior has included licking the lips with the tongue like some sort of porno manuever -- while looking at my in a come hither manner. Sticking the tongue in the cheek to do the universal blowjob signal. Using the hand to make a jerking off signal -- either between the legs or, strangely, on the small of the back, in combo with the backside display. My favorite is throwing the arms up straight in the air so that the breasts stick straight out -- in line with my eyes. This maximizes the intake of the electromagnetic energy and causes the "O at a D" rather fast. But usually it's the old standby -- the backside display -- with laser-like precision I might add.

 

Pumping the legs while crossed and staring into my eyes -- I remember this happening to me by someone interviewing for a job at my workplace -- a young female. I was amazed at how forward she was being and how effectively she was sucking me off. Now in full-lotus -- no problem -- just another "O at a D" and more free energy exchanges. Staring at my dick. This is another fairly common manuever -- and very effective I might add.

 

I forgot to mention that I've done the first two "O at a Ds" while standing up - I just do reverse breathing. Also I then discovered in Colin Wilson's book "The Occult" how Gurdjieff ALSO had this "O at a D" ability -- and so I read the original source: Rom Landauff's book "God is My Adventure." Colin Wilson noted that even the "great" magician Aleister Crowly -- supposed tantric guru -- could not do the "O at a D."

 

What amazes me is how "psychic" females are to this electromagnetic energy and how amazingly idiotic the modern male is to this energy. Usually the modern male around me will just bounce his legs frantically -- trying to counter act me shooting the electromagnetic energy out of my head into females. So the modern male -- a pervert is consciously doing this while otherwise it's fairly unconscious -- does not have the pineal gland open and the electromagnetic energy just drains into the electrochemical energy, turned into the fluid. In other words the modern male will also pump in my electromagnetic male energy but then use it just to make more fluid for himself -- without his own ability to transform his lower emotions into light.

 

With the internal climax building up the electromagnetic energy which then leaves through the pineal gland -- after about five "O at a Ds" (not counting the preliminary build up ones) the heart chakra really opens up. This creates not only REAL love but also real heart-break. After a while you realize that love is an impersonal and universal phenomenon, not something for emotional attachment and physical control. The lower emotions as electrochemical energy -- anger, fear, sadness, worry -- are then transduced or transformed into love-light. So if someone is angry or sad, etc. -- I will also suck this up -- even if they are a BLOCK AWAY - just through eye contact -- and then transduce it or transform it back into love-light and shoot it back at them. Sometimes it might take all night if a person just has strong anger energy. What happens is that the anger energy is just repressed sex life force energy on their part -- this repressed sex energy will finally come out transforming the anger energy into bliss-light.

 

Basically the modern male (and many modern repressed females) are addicted to stress with the cholesterol intake creating cortisol and not creating sex hormones. Also when the modern male climaxes this activates the stress sympathetic nervous system whereas the internal vagus nerve climax stays in the relaxed parasympathetic nervous system. The cortisol then cuts off the energy in the brain which would otherwise be used for spontaneous blissful creativity. The cortisol makes people stupid -- but it's also based on REPRESSED sex energy -- so it's how a person will get their fix. If a female can not get enough electromagnetic energy from a male -- unconsciously through sex fluid (with the yang inside the yin) she was then just get the male angry so that the electromagnetic energy is shot out of the male's body and the female will then suck it up. This is VERY VERY common in modern relationships.

 

Around 12:30 today while in line to get some soup I could see light around everyone's heads. How beautiful. I began comparing different people's light -- to see if this reflected their apparent differences in health. I could start to see a difference. So a younger healthy male while have stronger white-yellow light around their heads, for example.

 

OK I just googled "orgasm at a distance" at http://breakingopenthehead.com -- so I discovered this ability back in January of 2007. It's been a year and a half of experimenting. Also I forgot to mention that sometimes females around me have also just used their hands to "finish themselves off."

 

That's about it -- but more details elsewhere online.

 

http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/forum/s...orgasm+distance

 

There's more elsewhere -- I just remembered the O at a Ds when the female will sit with her back lined up with mine -- if we are in adjacent booths. And then there's the O at a Ds through walls and floors, etc.

Wow dude! LoL. Ok.... phew... sorry,

I would call it "taoist schizophrenia"... After reading all that I had to get a drink and smoke 3 cigarettes in a row to get my mind set straight...

It is rumored that even Oyama was taught a lesson by a Chen stylist in Hong Kong

 

http://www.crane.50megs.com/index6j.htm

 

That is a very interesting article and a great story, it's the first time I've ever heard that. I wonder if it's true though. I hope it is...

Personally I much prefer Sosai Masutatsu Oyama.

The guy was undefeated proven in hundreds of fights. He could kill you with one punch and his training is simple clear and practical. I don't agree with him killing the bulls with his bare hands, but you can't deny that it is very impressive plus, they made a great barbeque later I'm sure.

Oyama

you got everything there - power, skill, honor, discipline. Hundreds of people are still studying his system and kicking ass in MMA.

Oyama training

Then let Bruce Lee guide you my friend. He was fast - very fast.

Yeah, he was so fast that he died when he was 32...

Hi,

 

I am 'reprinting' here an article I wrote on my blog last night.

 

Why am I writing about these things? Well, the interest in the Mo Pai continues to go on unabated. So, I'd like people to be able to read about some real experiences, rather than supposition and bullshit. Also, I'd like to help people to move on and find something that really is worth them pursuing. The Mo Pai is closed, and it never really was going to be something for the masses. More on that later. For now, I hope you enjoy this little offering.

 

Best,

 

Mike

 

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Hi Mike,

 

Thx for the article and hopefully more will come. I can guarantee you that there are a lot of people that would enjoy everything you have to say about this topic. Thx for sharing this with us.

 

Orb

Hmm this could make an interesting thread because can anything ever truly be said to be accidental?

 

In the process of 'getting straight' haven't we all had rather odd experiences which some might suggest are pure chance yet others say have more to do with Jung's idea of synchronicity?

I say we go for it. Maybe it could answer our questions.