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There are quite a few considered elightened - maybe too many.... In US a lot of people consider Adyashanti an Enlightened being and imho he is pretty awesome...

Yes, I believe you are right if you refer to the very few in the world - people like John Chang (probably ten or 20 people total on the entire planet) - that have the right formula and won't teach you anything unless of course your name is David Verdessi (the pawn is totally intended)... But the rest of them - won't be able to kill even a chicken in an instant - so the IMA practices that you follow or Mr. Mr durkhrod chogori - don't come from a real master hence they are a waste of time - those people in the history that you talk about - you have no idea what they were practicing 'cause you simply weren't there and I couldn't care less about the stories that you have read. On the other hand I orient myself on real people that train hard and are not afraid of a real challenge - and the MMA fighters are the real fighters and ready to fight whenever you are ready - against any IMA master - just bring it on and stop hiding behind cheap resons like: "Oh yeah I'm practicing a martial art but I won't really fight you 'cause I'm pusuiing enlightment..." or "I have so much freaking power that it could kill you in an instant therefore I will never fight for real but instead I'll give lectures and seminars and sell DVDs cause I really think I'm gonna help the world by teaching them how to dress in chinese clothes and get fascinated with the tickling feelings in my stomach that are caused by the magic chi....." and here just a few real fighters since you've asked: But remember there are hundreds of thousands of practitioners out there that don't even compete.....and you might run into one of them that doesn't go to church too often and feels like he doesn't like you and you'll try to use your fa jing to stop him and ...... but I'll let you find out by yourself 66LvOxlGI_8 uCwgQmulx2E yc8cbF7RTNo VrS2eRl76ik a5440TDSn1E

same crap over and over again.... Listen if somebody attacks you on the street it's gonna b a series of very fast strong punches straight in the face and none of this taichi BS would work I guarantee you. Don't you see the same pattern in all these masters - The teacher will tell you exactly how to attack (usually with some lame back of the forearm move at your chest level) and they will continue slow until the teacher decides to strike you really fast in the balls to impress the audience --- this has nothing to do with reality - your master would be biting the dust before he knows it and only a gun could save him. That's why there are no videos of taichi guys fighting a real fighter - not because of their philosophy but because they can't do it - it's not possible !!!

Stories - facts - stories - everything is a story - this entire forum is a story, life is a story and then it's based on facts also. Everybody believes one story or another and this thread happened to be about Verdessi's story which plainly sucks, and it sucked even before Wang Liping, even before John Chang (which was actually the greatest damage that this moron had done IMHO) - it sucked beginning with Mantak Chia maybe even before that ! And the fact that so many different people post in this thread so fast - clearly shows the real effect of DV's actions - he is the only one responsible for this story ! So let the people read it so that they know the story of David Verdessi - and who knows maybe one day there will be a movie about this joker or even better a never ending TV show like "Dallas" where David Verdessi creates an empire by trading qigong masters for money and he and his russian wife will live happilly ever after in a golden castle maintained by poor taobums who are convinced that one day DV will reveal to them the secret of imortality....

Interesting - all this is happening just when people started complaining that things are getting borring on thetaobums - well not anymore - the good ol times are back !!!

I have trained in IMA plenty with teachers that are considered very good and I trained until I got convinced that it's useless and that I had to grow out of it. Of course you are free to stand by your beliefs for as long as you want but I just can't read these posts which I completely disagree with and not write my point of view. Now if there are good fighters among IMA - how come there are no videos - china and taiwan make all our video cameras so what's the big deal in using one and making a short video ?. You can film now with a regular cellphone....And yes if I knew where a real IMA fighter was located like you are claiming there are - I would go to see him and get a beating from him, but until then allow me to keep my strong doubts I'm sorry but your arguments just don't cut it for me at all.....

I am nobody and I don't have any credentials. It's just that I am very convinced that Taichi and Bagua and Xing yi are ineficient in combat and whatever I see in your videos confirms that and is useless from a real fight point of view. Now if you are convinced of the opposite and you got something to show me PM me please and I'll come and meet you. Also I never said I didn't like Taobums - I think this is the best forum around, however from a combat point of view it's usually pretty ridiculous.

From the "real martial arts" point of view this forum has been pretty bad already, otherwise it's a great forum. Also it's sad for me to see posts like yours submitted by people who obviously never been under a real attack in a real life situation. You can call your videos whatever you want but that's not a real attack and therefore not a real defense response. Go get a reality check sir and snap out of the imaginary world of taoist stories and fairy tales

I know a lot of people here have some great jokes to tell. I thought it would be great to have a thread to share them with everybody. Here I go: A Zen monk in New York stops in the street and orders a $1. hot dog. He gives the seller a $10 note, which the hot dog man puts in his pocket. Finally the Zen Monk says, "Hey, where's my CHANGE???" The hot dog seller replies, "CHANGE comes from within!" ===================================================== Q: Why don't Buddhists vacuum in the corners? A: Because they have no attachments. ===================================================== Q: How many Zen masters does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: None. Zen masters carry their own light.

That looked more like child abuse and mistreatment......

Good point Ya Mu. The animals won't get impressed by the taoist clothes that you are wearing or the great lecture full of chinese words that you are giving - it either works or it doesn't. The same test should be used by all the "experts" around here .... If you really believe that you have Fa jin or whatever your claimed abilities are - don't do it on your friends or students but rather try it on a nonbeliever, try it on an animal or an insect. I bet you most of the healers (pranic, qigong, reiki etc) around here can't even make a fly feel better, but if any of you can - please make a video and post it.....

First of all on the taobums we don't use words like obesity or over weight - but rather "buddha belly" and such it's all energy or light , your see... Second - how do you expect Kunlun to cure mental issues when it's first step is to create a mental issue ? When you first go to see Max and you ask him to make you move/dance or whatever those other clowns (older students) are doing - he can't do it on a new guy unless you r already a little bit "not there" however after a while you listen to him and you are just "blown away" by his "humbleness" and charisma and "knowledge" and you slowly let go of your good ol common sense and then you start moving or dancing or whatever Max wants you to do - so who knows from that perspective maybe if you abandon yourself completely he could cure your HIV or transform you into a light bulb or whatever else crosses his mind .... We have a guy here at the local Walmart's parking lot and he is convinced that he is Elvis ! Otherwise very nice guy - even charismatic I would say...

Thx for sharing.... clearly your best post yet

In this case you should mention also that certain taoist schools would tell you that not everybody has a dan tien and not everybody can get one and also people mistake some other phenomena/sensations for dantien. Also some schools work with more then one dan tien, but anyway too much talk already over nothing ....

To put it simply - it's a big waste of time !

Common use of salt: - it is a natural cleanser. i.e you get a cut and put salt on it it won't get infected (although you might wet your pants due to the pain...) - Salt was used to preserve. You rub it on meat to keep it from spoiling. Either salty or acid environment is unfriendly to most bacteria, hence food does not spoil (i.e. pickles). Also salt is used for preserving animal skins(i.e. sheepskins and lambskins exported from Australia). Religion: - Salt is mentioned 46 times in the Bible and 3 times in Quran. In many cultures, including Japan, salt is used for purification. Sumo wrestlers throw salt in the ring before a match to purify the ring. In Japan, salt in a pouch is distributed to participants of a funeral. After the funeral, when the participants come back and enter their houses, they have to be sprinkled on themselves with the salt for purification. And then there are the taoist theories: In Asia, Tao Salt has been used by Taoist Immortals as a medicinal substance throughout the ages. Through their understanding of Ancient Oriental Medicine and Alchemy, they realized the disease prevention and curative power of Tao Salt. Tao Salt exerts miraculous effects on cancer, ulcers, fatigue, diabetes, hypertension, detoxing bla bla bla...... Salt has cleansing and hygienic power and newborn babies were rubbed with salt. Here are some interesting rituals found in a few different cultures: First let me quote the Bible: // Salt the newborn: On the day of birth it is sin if you do not rub the newborn with Salt // (Ezekiel 16:4) Japanese people before Meiji-era had the custom to put some salt into baby's bath. The ancient people of Israel washed a new born baby with water after rubbing the baby softly with salt; The same rubbing of the newborn was supposedely common in some old traditions like the Armenian''s and by some people in Africa (Gambia) - who would actually shave the baby's head and then rubb it with salt.... Supposedely the babies that had been rubbed with salt, later on throughout their infancy would become imune to most of the common baby diseases. For humans, salt is as essential as water. We can perish from too little salt as we can of thirst. Salt regulates the exchange of water between our cells and their surrounding fluids. All fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals carry within their veins the elements of sodium, potassium, and calcium in almost the same proportions as the oceans. Ninety seven per cent of all the water on Earth is salty.... Then there is the electrical conductivity in a water solution of salt and etc etc etc.... Now my personal take on it is - you can use salt on french fries as well as on popcorn. It works magic !

LOL that was hysterical

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I don't know what you guys figured out in Norway but I got my own scientists that I talk to (in this case from Germany) studying wild life in Alaska - 1 month every year for the last 6 years - but that's not even the point I spent a lot of time in nature myself and never ever have I seen homosexuality manifested in normal conditions so maybe it's just the Norwegian animals that are more prone to having gay relationships. As for Mantak Chia - I am against quoting that guy - because I don't consider him a valid authority to be quoted in Taoist matters. And the amount of students that he has - have nothing to do with it. Scientologists have a lot of followers too, so... ???

I would have to disagree with you on that one. In nature homosexuality is an exception and usually is clearly associated with some radical deviation in the animal's way of life. The documented cases that you refer to occur mostly in detained conditions where the animals actually have lost their true identity as a wild and proud animal and became a victim of the regrettable abuse from the humans that virtually brainwashes the animal to the point of a total mental confusion. It's a very sad thing. Also quoting Mantak Chia in this case is just as pathetic. The only time you could quote that guy is if we were discussing different methods of "jerking off" and you needed a BS taoist justification for it so that the wanker didn't feel so bad about himself. Now wether it's right or wrong for human to be homos - I don't care - nor do I care what taoism or any other religion has to say about it. As long as they don't interfere with my life and my rights - to each his own. But I do feel the need to post a scientific definition of "anus" The anus is an opening at the opposite end of an animal's digestive tract from the mouth. Its function is to expel feces, unwanted semi-solid matter produced during digestion, which, depending on the type of animal, may be one or more of: matter which the animal cannot digest, such as bones; food material after all the nutrients have been extracted, for example cellulose or lignin; ingested matter which would be toxic if it remained in the digestive tract; and dead or excess gut bacteria and other endosymbionts.

Santi why r u so worried about this guy. You should thank him. I consider you a Sufi so think like a Sufi He made you a huge favor by keeping this thread on top of the list for so long - he totally made your publicity and you got to see that the vast majority of the taobums support you and benefit from your teachings. Cheers Mate

Just out of curiosity how come you came back to posting in The Tao Bums again Mr Mak Tin Si ? So, first you flooded this forum with your "great ideas" then you encountered some opposition from people that just couldn't buy your BS and your spamming methods and then when you figured out how to get your own forum you decided to throw a fit like "screw you guys I'm going home" type of thing hoping that The Tao Bums would just run after you and beg for forgiveness, or you'll just lead them to the promised land or whatever - but it didn't quite happen (although some people did follow you, I must admit...) But that didn't bother you much- you where ecstatic about getting your own forum where you posted about 17 mln new posts by yourself (and received about 3 replies to them) but you still didn't care - you just kept posting and posting and posting - because you got caught in this habit like a chronic masturbator that cannot control himself - it's like the entire taoism is inside you now and you have to constantly throw up to make space for more ideas and throw up over and over again ..... And just when The Tao Bums started to forget about you and your "valuable secret treasures" and it got quiet and clean on the forum you realised that your forum won't ever be able to be as big and popular as "The Tao Bums" and that just bugged the hell out of you, didn't it? So I guess now it's time for plan "B" - I can't wait to see what it consists of. Although to me you must be the most annoying character on the internet - you do provide quite a bit of entertaining I hope they don't ban you but only put a leash on you...