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Good topic, Sir. Thanks

What exactly can you do ?

Nobody here can do what she was doing so imo you are asking the people that don't know.

Because only those people can fill an entire book about the subject. The real answers are not words or theories, but understandings and states of mind.

Lol, I'll come as well. Biff, pls let me know if this guy is serious ....

Just out of curiousity Desert Eagle, how come you call the guy Jesus? Aren't you a muslim ?

just bought it on amazon for $10.00 - can't beat that !

This sounds interesting. Is this the DVD you are talking about ? http://www.wujiproductions.com/

You are asking the right question, Sir. But don't expect any good answers around here. Most of the taobums here practice with teachers just like this one where after a while they "feel" the "CHI" or "QI"etc It doesn't work on people from outside because outsiders don't believe in him so the verification of the method is very subjective. That's the difference between a real school(very rare) and a school that only has part of the teaching (most of them). Wait a couple of days and you'll get a whole bunch of comments defending this clown in the video and claiming all kind of things and facts about him simply because deep down in their subconscious they know that they've been lying to themselves the same way for a long time but it would suck to admit it. Because it would mean that you are still at level zero and you would have to start all over from the beginning. It's a lot easier to become a "teacher" in your own bs style and keep teaching other people the same nonsense. You don't even have to go all the way to China to see such a marvel - we have a few here in US with the ability to put on even more spectacular shows: http://www.strimoo.com/video/14031691/Taoi...paceVideos.html here's another one uDp6xSTyuMc

That harshness was beneficial for her 100% and probably "saved her life". Gurdjieff wasn't abused as a child - his parents were remarcable! The "mean" way he was treating his students was totally intentional. That is the essence of the G's method. It is a method designed for very few people. Ralis you understood it right - you just didn't attribute the right value to it. People always tried to compare his system to Taoism, Buddhism, Sufi, Zen etc...It's a total waste of time. Gurdjieff has nothing to do with Taoism, Buddhism, Sufi, Zen - It's exactly the opposite! His way will never calm you down but rather stir you up to the point that you will hate yourself and your life and that's the only way the real alchemy can occur. If you became G's student he would make you feel miserable and completely desperate in 3 days, If you accept him as a teacher your entire body will start hurting and you will reach your limits of sanity but you could learn more in 3 days then in 3 years in any other school. He will show you that you are "nothing" and you don't have any will and no integrity and no self! It's a method of payment and sacrifice and a reality check - The harsh Zen method's are a vacation when compared to G's way. He reverses the process that your mothers started. When you are a baby you are infused with total comfort (that's what good mothers do) and that becomes the center of you life, 100% comfort and peace, cushions and pillows! Also there are answers and solutions to everything and very polite angels and spirits guard you and even GOD himself is totally blown away with how cute the baby is. And if you know a little poem you get a tasty cookie. Even if you don't remember the stupid poem you still get the cookie - because you are already so smart - just a little shy perhaps...No child left behind. Sometimes moms and paps are even convinced that the baby is some old soul and so if he is already so freaking advanced just give the poor guy a break. Do him a favor, put him through college - he deserves it. The death issue is also taken care of, entirely. If you don't go to heaven, you reincarnate or some other comfortable bs, if you don't meditate then you believe and pray or sing on sundays and wear a very good looking cross around your neck (or a crystal, talisman bla bla bla) and remain assured that you are all set - for this life and the life after...... Sometimes you find a very loving guru or a super calm Taichi teacher that feeds you more of that priceless attention and therefore teaches you how to increase your sleep by serving you as a perfect example. He will even give you a TRANSMISSION which is basically a magic pill = less work on your side. And that's how your last little chance of understanding anything in this life goes straight down the drain. Everything is given to us - don't worry just read the book it's all documented. There's a book for each question you might have. Our education ensures that we don't DO anything in life - we just follow in the dead man's footsteps: Go to school, go to college, get a perfect wife, get a house, make money, be nice to people stay away from negativity, stay calm, believe or meditate and be comfortable and peacefull for eternity and you are all set! The comfort zone is what we are looking for all our lives and all your religions and meditations will give you even more comfort, both in theory and in practice. That's why it's not good to criticize anybody because you bother them. You can't disturb people's sleep. You have to praise them and bless them because you are doing good! If the above summarizes your life and your goals and you want to keep your comfort then please stay away for Gurdjieff's teachings and Gurdjieff's schools because he will make sure all that goes away !!! The payment is very high and there's a lot of very real pain. He doesn't work with good angels - he works with his majesty Mr Devil himself, but only if you can get him inside yourself! That's the only way to work with G. Ralis was very correct to recommend against it. Run away from it and forget about it while you can.

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That's some good stuff, sir, both posts . Did you figure it out all by yourself or do you follow somebody's teaching if you don't mind me asking?

You see that's the biggest problem around here - the guy that can really do it always dissappears and never fully explains the technique and all we are left with a half-known method that will never work because we are missing the other half of the formula. It's easy to say "keep practicing" - the problem that I see is that nobody really knows what to do. All we can do is keep talking about some vibrating dummy....

If there's nothing special about it - did you develop any Fajin yet ? Also I am looking for one of these experts that can Fajin his neck out of a real choke not one of these "loving hands" type of approach where the "master" has to explain for half an hour how are you supposed to hold your hands before he can demonstrate his secret skill.....

Every 5 years these retards from Nepal are killing over 500 000 animals for their rituals. They don't eat the meat but only let it rot out in the streets. I don't know if there's anything we can do but if there's any way to protest this nightmare I would join it right away. http://www.india-forums.com/news/article.asp?id=207894 http://www.hindustantimes.com/Nepal-set-to...le1-474675.aspx JUZT-nhjvOs sVWNPKVLS4E

I never questioned somebody like John Chang - that guy to me is for real. There are a handfull of people just like him at a high level around the world - I've never doubted them. And those are the guys I look up to and I would like to learn from. But they represent probably less then 1% from this world of Inner Arts. They are the exception ! The rest - amateurs which to me don't count. Most of them don't even realise how ignorant they are - and all they do is wear the same t-shirts and all perform these cheap "miracles".... - but you know what - since there's nothing I can do about it anyway I'll shut up and leave those guys to you to admire and when you learn something of real value from them - let me know please - I never had a problem admitting when I felt I was wrong and I'll do it again

To me these are two totally different things. Animals don't really have a choice they just follow what they have been doing for generations. The wasp has been doing that for thousands of years and its doing it in order to take care of the future generation - that's not the same type of "cruelty" - that's more "the law of the jungle" Humans on the other hand are supposed to be smarter then that. If you see suffering and you can do smth to stop it (for example they can choose not to participate in that kind of dinner situation or they can just kill the fish to stop the suffering) - instead you see adults looking at suffering and laughing like crazy, no compassion, no respect for life whatsoever - that's an example of people without a heart -that's sad

I don't see any power and I don't see any sparring in any of these videos - none of this makes any sense ... And by the way what happened to our deal ? Did you ask your teacher if he would be so kind as to kick my ass or not ?

If I make the effort and come all the way to Australia you have to promise me that whoever is going to "show" me your the style - will allow me to attack using a basic streetfight attack. I don't want to spend all that money and see demos like in the videos - I want to be able to punch my opponent in the face, full contact and speed or attempt a takedown on him and your style should be able to neutralise me.

Mr durkhrod chogori, I have no interest whatsoever in audience, medals or steroids. I am only interested in 100% efficiency. I don't care about chinese clothes or russian camouflage uniforms nor do I care about old stories about old masters and their miraculous skills. I have tried different IMA methods with a few so called grandmasters and was very dissapointed. Personally I am not by any means too big or too strong but rather average and I would love to learn smth that is a little bit smarter then what I have witnessed so far in the IMA world. The videos that have been posted on this thread are very similar to the videos that my teachers had and I am very sorry but none of them have impressed me at all. On the contrary for example, a video with John Chang - is very impressive to me because there's smth very special about that guy and I know that he is for real - while all these other wannabes just don't look right to me - I am saying this just to point out the fact that I don't deny the existence of real internal arts but they are extremely rare and I don't think anybody on this forum is part of a school like that. If what you are saying was true I would come to you and beg you to let me learn your system. So far the people from IMA that I have met and fought were very weak and their system didn't make any sense - and they were doing exactly the same things that are in these videos that you guys proudly post here. So how the hell am I supposed to believe this when I've seen it in real life and I verified that they don't work. For example my buddy from the russian "Omon" forces was training directly under Kadochnikov whom they call grandpa and he is said to be the man who put the "Systema" method together - so he is telling me all these theories about their version of internal martial arts and he is an instructor himself and I choke the shit out of him using a basic grappling guillotine and none of his IMA training could do anything about it. The same happened with a couple of Bagua and Taichi guys.... Again I'm not trying to prove that I am better or stronger - as I am getting my ass kicked on a regular basis by external martial arts practitioners - it never happened with the IMA guys though and I really wish it would ....

The art of invisibility ??????????????????????????????? Listen kiddo, I'm sorry about taking your posts seriously - also please disregard my posts from now on , I'm not into comic books or japanese cartoons....

I couldn't care less about Kimbo slice and his performance - in my opinion he is a total villain and ignorant compared to real martial artists like Fedor Emelianenko. I was just giving an example of a real attack. I have seen a lot of guys like him who are not even pro - who would attack you with such a force that none of your IMA training would be able to sustain. I don't believe a single word you wrote - I've met people in special forces also people from the Russian special forces that are very proud of their "systema" even trained with them for a few months - all I can say is that indeed they were very good at what they were doing - but they trained using external martial arts methods - there was no IMA involved whatsoever and those guys were just as big and strong as Kimbo. If you ever feel that you or your teachers can block a real attack like you are saying using IMA - let me know. I would really like to see such a video. I couldn't find anything.