3 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

Depends. One student in our school got knocked into the ceiling fan during a push hands class from the fajin.

 

Haha , once while doing push hands , a friend that has 90 kg stepped accidently on my foot and somehow he was shot in the air from there.

All the videos are real, i can do most of those things just from doing lots and long session of zhang zhuang and the spontaneous qigong i went through plus watching some vids reading some texts and experimenting a little..cant do it in such a sophisticated way because i dont do it everyday though. Once a pure sceptic wanted to feel this things and didnt want them to work.for him it must have felt like meeting a real magician .

I think its a shame that there are still non believers in taji circles.everyone who calls himself a master should have this skills.

50 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

I used one of the Chinese terms, just to keep to the same nomenclature. 

Makes things easier for me 😁

I also prefer wine of immortality 😁

57 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

Yes

I have a practice.

Ahhh! That is a big one. Many have tried, most annoyed everybody else 

 

I am aware that there are many ways of seeing this, so I will refer to a Damo Mitchell podcast for some of the major issues. 

I have some views quoted somewhere in my PPD as well,  to show that I do not think that one way of seeing it is the consensus among traditions and teachers.

 

Now, in my personal view, when I do a practice that embraces Reversal, creates Spiritual Water, and so on, that is (the start of) Nei Dan. 

 

If I don't do that, I do very useful practices that enhance sensitivity, health, might be useful for martial practice if it wasn't for the fact that I no longer practice for fighting ability, enhance my ability for Stillness, and so on. My teacher always referred to those as "qigong", as far as I can remember he never used the term "nei gong". 

 

 

Thanks, no annoyment here 😁 , have the same view if that is possible to say from this little internet discussion.but i also thaught about mentioning amrita.

10 hours ago, Cleansox said:

I think we are close on the lower alchemy method, I would stick in a couple of things as a middle method in order to be able to do the higher version, and as a result of that I'm not sure I would describe the higher version in the way you did (but trying to describe that is sort of difficult, yes?). 

 

And I remain unsure if one can see any of that in a low quality vid with focus on the hand, and be able to differentiate it from a physical powered move or a move powered with some nei gong training. 

 

But I also accept the futility of having these distinctions, because one mans Nei Dan is the other mans Qi Gong. 

Can you be more specific? What is your experience with neidan? And how do you differentiate it from qigong?

5 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

Ah. 

We have different ideas of the concept, that explains why I could not follow your thought. 

What is your idea?

I have really not much knowledge its more from experience. For me the "lower" kind of alchemy is about heart fire sinking down to kidney water.and produce steam.when the heart opens this steam gets transformed into qi. When you have more qi , the fajins become sharper. The "higher" kind of alchemy is when prenatal qi enters through the crown or just from everywhere and nowhere. Then the body gets really like supercharged and pumped up with yang qi which makes them even more sharp. It can also feel like they dont even come from the dantian but more from everywhere as if the whole body is the dantien.

I think one has to careful about discriptions i think because the dantien most people in taiji community talk about is just there the real dantiens somehow get build in my understanding.

Can also feel like as if they come from the hands but the body is behind them. And there are a lot of nuances. I think its very unhealthy / dangerous or even impossible to do alchemy practices to produce fajins.that would be the wrong mindset.

Hello tombajo, this thread is really confusing. I think people should have asked HOW you will modernise what you learned.i mean i can understand the criticism because there a lot of bullshit self made systems.but in some way wang xianzhai also modernised xing yi......

That wouldnt have put you into this "defender role". People are often way to fast when communicating over the internet.

If i did knew that i have awesome stuff and everybody directly critices or even laughs about i dont how i would have reacted but i am more a let them talk person then a fighter.

I can relate to what you say about dark energy but i find it difficult to use science language for those experiences.i got catapulted out of the center of  head and got shot through " hyperspace " into a "blackhole" , i also perceived this world as a dream but it frightened me off.since this "blackhole" experience the energy in my system got so strong that i blackouted a few times during qigong. ( practiced zhang zhuang for around 7 years intensly, then got into spontaneous qigong on my own ) since then i could do some energy healings on others also long distance that were quite amazing.

As for your videos. Its not so easy for me to put in words.in my experience fajins that come out of nothing like the ones you do walking ,are only possible if you are in a very special state, there has to be alchemy  going on. Its not like start a movement by initiating it from lower dantian what a lot taiji systems do. I also noticed that your breathing was in harmony with the strike what speaks for a good "mind body connection".

When i do spontaneous qigong i sometimes get into a drunken immortal state. Energy changes completely ,also my perception.when fajinscome out in this state they are again very different.

Would you make your videos public again if i post a little clip?

And maybe think about opening up a personal praxtice thread here.

For me it was nearly the same when i showed stuff here.some masters said it hasnt to do anything with qigong/taiji , some were neutral giving advices and a chinese lady congrated me for having found the true secret lost meditation from old daoists 😂

I would like to hear more from you.

No particular qigong advice but just eat some liver blood nourishing foods on a daily bases. And go outside and look at far distances. I just saw a video about  how always staring at screens affects the muscles of your eyes and can result in short sight. Reduce or stop cannabis if possible.

29 minutes ago, freeform said:

 

It's very common to get hands like this after taiji or qigong - yes it's pathogenic qi (usually 'heat') leaving the body... but if you touch yourself or others with hands like this, you're transmitting that pathogenic info to that person or to that part of your own body.

 

Best thing to do is to shake your hands off when you get this. If still not clear, go outside and touch the ground for a while.

Thank you a lot for this information!

5 hours ago, freeform said:

 

This is what I mean by mottled hands.

Why does the hand look like this? 😁 detoxification ?

Hard to tell 😁 if i try it in simple words... the same vibrations that opened my channels/fascia can be used to open the one of others.But to put it really simple i just vibrate a finger and put it on a blockage😂 hard to discuss this things online... i dont know if we talk about the same vibrations.but i can say it works really well. Even a physio therapist learned it from me and was ewally amazed.

I use this vibrations when doing massages.Not sure if it is the same vibration though. Send them to my hands and fingers. Blocadges in the fascia melt away like butter! I also use sensing and feel them very good.

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Just run away!!!

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I think maybe you shouldnt focus to much on feeling it.Focus more on releasing everything that makes you not feel it.tension ,emotions and to much thoughts.

Or maybe try just this:

https://youtu.be/6cGCHSV0yiM

When i was a teeneager i ate from the microwave everyday.because my mother was working... if i had known back then that you can just put the food in a pot with very little water and steam it to heat it.... after a few years i somehow felt i have to stop microvaving. I think its not only qi missing... its toxic😂 everything tastes very different from cooked or fried. And i could also feel the microwaves outside the machine. Those things should be forbidden. As for qi and food. Wildherbs , sprouts , fruit , fresh leafy greens.

Oh yes my clients who also didnt meditate, reported tingling and also pulling sensations ( i pull bad stuff out ) one got goosebumps on the whole body! One said it feels like i was shooting little lightnings.But what was even more astounding to me was the change in mood. Clients reported a big love for life or even the feeling of feeling immortal when driving home.

I am in a similar process.all i can say is take a pause sometimes.looking back... i should have done it. Before "spontaneous qigong" happened to me i did 4 to 6 hours standing and sitting a day so i was accustomed to that amount of practice so i continued like that with spontaneous practice.took a long time to figure out that less is sometimes more.take a break for one day a week i would say.

High fat and protein , low carb is great but what those paleo people seem to ignore that our ancestors where hunter gatherer civilizations.in most of the countrys it was like 70 to 80 percent of the food was gathered!!! So for me nuts and seeds are the way to go! Also health wise , they are packed with minerals like non other food.

Try out the books of lam kam chuen.They have awesome loosening and warm up excercises for zhang zhuang.especially the advanced ones in the way of power.

On 21.7.2015 at 2:16 AM, Infolad1 said:

 

Hi MooNiNite,

 

It's not a metaphor. It happens once all the dantiens (Lower, Middle, & Upper) come online.

 

It's along the lines of what happens with the appearance of "The Mysterious Gate".

 

I saw the "Mysterious Gate" when my lower dantien was fully online, and middle, and upper

dantiens were coming online.

 

You see points of light that look like stars, and points of light first. Then the mysterious

gate shows up, first in your peripheral vision, then in 

 

The falling snow landmark was like that...x11. Instead of just a few points of light here, and there, It's a

BUNCH of them, coming down in front of your eyes. Kind of like white noise on an old style TV set, but

moving slower, and In the air in 3D.

 

You'll see the sequence happen a number of times, If you lose jing during your practice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I experienced it also exactly like you described! Always wondered if this could be that snow.Experienced it multiple times also .Very beautiful and it came always with a qi going upwards and a shift in perception.Really crazy to see such things with eyes open and even if i moved my head looking around me they kept flying in 3d

I am into i think 15 years of practice.Sitting , standing, "spontaneous qigong"

On 10.10.2019 at 3:30 AM, sean said:

 

Just to confirm, all lowercase: natursein

 

Sean

 

Yes

Same here in the middle of germany but with those big flys that suck blood haha ,back then when i did my 4 hour zhang zhuang sessions barefoot in the forest.one time it was like i had like 10 at the same place and it was really bleading! I was crazy back then like i just trust in god continue and endure everything.i also noticed that bites became less and when i was swimming with friends at a small river they were bitten like ten times more then me. The funny thing is those flys inject a kind of antiseptic at the end of their meal , so if you kill them or just send them away before they are ready it will itch! Dont know about mosquitos...