Bud Jetsun

I can see where you guys are coming from, but my experience allowed no room, nor ability for chaos to propagate itself.

It was nothingness. Absolute and pristine, pure and untouchable, unfathomable.

 

Perhaps I'm barking at the wrong mongoose here.

 

I'm talking void and you're all talking abyss... think I got it now.

 

*bow*

peace and happy hunting.

Antithesis of chaos.

This has been consistent with my experience as well.

Indefinably perfect contentment in all aspects does nothing to describe it adequately.

The best healing will come from someone healing for the joy in practicing the brave siddha of healing.

I don't know if there is something a mind can offer you if the mind is offering that thing as an exchange for any material world rubbish.

I personally would kindly and generously donate to any healer who helped me (at least generous for a man who has given away all his money and most possessions to anyone who looked hungry).

No two beings can take the same path to liberation, nor could any other being know the correct path for YOUR liberation.

Anything that gives one an alternative perspective offers the potential for new insight.

The goal of people spending years sitting is to make the delusions perpetually created by sober-mind cease. Progress doesn't occur from doing the same technique identically each time, I personally find it counter-productive to meditate the same way twice.

The goal of meditation is not to simply become disciplined at the act of practicing meditation, it is to make the profound realizations of impermanence, the reason to live unlimited compassion, to cease all belief and gain the understanding that if one is having thoughts, one is in a state of self-imposed delusion.

It's not coincidence that so many psychoactive plants are used to make teas for spiritual practicing cultures.

When you've made whatever discoveries await your mind through meditation while under the altered perspective your energy drink offers, perhaps move to trying homemade nettle tea. Add nettle leaf to simmering water until it works for you. Requires about 40 leaves to make a pot that works for me. I find it to be an indescribably empowering helper for giving the perspective and insights needed to break through to new deeper levels of mediation.

Many beings who achieved Buddha-mind regularly enjoyed various plant teachers before they gained there own awareness of Moksha.

Many beings who have no understanding of Buddha-mind or Moksha will also tell you plant teachers have nothing to offer.

Of course an american can achieve rainbow body. Even American's come equipped with a spirit and mind.

It is the objective of most if not all spiritual religion.

If you leave a body, you continue going around on the wheel.

The reason for spending efforts "practicing" and "practicing meditation" is for this ultimate objective of complete timeless eternal liberation.

When emphasis is spent on the "practicing" aspect for the sake of "practice", I think many miss that this practice is for a purpose.

Ha! That was difficult for me to read and grasp what you were saying. I had to read it twice.

Good question. For many, reality sucks and therefore they use alcohol and drugs to escape it. Others just run away or deny it.

 

Reality is objective to those who are willing to accept its existence. Don't like it? The first question to be asked, I think, is, "Can I change it?" And then, before any further thought or action one should ask, "Will I be more at peace if I try to change it?"

 

I agree that being closed-minded is self defeating. It places limits on what we are willing to do or consider.

 

But actually, (objective) reality never varies; it is our perception that varies.

If you are claiming objective reality exists in the minds of those willing to accept it, can any two versions agree? Does that leave you with a separate objective reality for each individual consciousness perceiving it? Is there any possible mechanism that doesn't make this version of reality you are labeling as objective not exclusively subjective to the beliefs of reality the consciousness believing in objective reality may happen to have?

What can you tell me that you know of your objective reality? Does it include any parts that are concretely defined if you choose to observe closely enough, or does it only appear where and how a consciousness chooses to observe? The limits of my own observation of the outside world reveal all that we call the illusion matter to exist exclusively conditionally based on the location and method of observation offered by the consciousness of an observer. No observer means no defined energy or location for any particle composing any portion of the illusion often called "material world".

I say once again, Yin and Yang are complimentary. Yang can do nothing without Yin. And so, Yin can do nothing without Yang.

 

Reality is real, and illusion (and delusion) are not real.

 

Reality and illusion have nothing to do with Yin and Yang.

 

Reality is objective; illusion and delusion are subjective.

To whom is it objective? Which one is not just some patchwork of things limited by the extreme perception limitations of a human being and whatever tools they make to help them observe relationships between and assign labels to describe whatever model happens to currently be popular among groups of the close minded delusionary-model-defenders. This is never a thing to get confused with reality, which can only exist in the perception of a consciousness. Depending on the consciousness, the reality model varies, no two can match, or they would be the same consciousness.

As ones thoughts determine all one can 'know' of reality, and one's thoughts are exclusively the domain of ones mind which has no limitations that are not self-imposed, how could any spell one completely believes without doubt to work not have worked to the limit of ones ability to know?

The delusion of imposing limitations on manifestation only imposes limits on your own ability to manifest.

Think of and treat all consciousness's you interact with as though they are the kindest most selfless mother/wife/son/daughter who has willingly sacrificed there life for you countless times. Unlimited Love, unlimited Compassion, unlimited selfless giving. Destroy all fear-originated thoughts, and if one appears, do not let it escape before you've traced back the entire root of that fearful thought destroying every aspect of that fear-thought-pathway through understanding until there is no trace of fear path left to be found anywhere in the mind.

Removing the fear-thought pathway through universal and complete compassion removes the ability to doubt ones ability to manifest, which in turn removes limitations from ones ability to manifest.

One may manifest complete mindfulness, and manifest liberation, manifest knowing all that can be known (nothing).

With unlimited Love,

-Bud

Once she knows it's only her controlling both dolls, the play time between them gets dull and uninteresting. cease she knows it's only herself controlling both dolls . It's like you playing a game of Chinese checkers alone. No opponents. This is the unspoken Tao you can now speak about.

To model a consciousness as a doll is to misunderstand the nature of reality. The consciousness creates it's reality through the thoughts it chooses to have, continuously creating the illusion (or non-illusion if the consciousness has embraced oneness/void as all). There is no invisible hand moving it, it is not needed. The duality occurs because the mind creating each reality has only two root thought-types, Love and Fear. (though to express those roots of all thoughts as such is like calling the ocean a damp spot).

There is no guiding hand, or guiding force that is external to each individual consciousness creating it's reality by choosing to think whatever it may believe reality to be. Duality is inherent in the reality of all consciousness while that consciousness is choosing to have thoughts of reality, as all thought has only 2 sources of origin, Love or Fear. (many labels for these terms across various cultures, no textual term could ever express truth or the nature of them.

While one is choosing to 'hear', one cannot 'listen'. Hearing is comparing to what illusions you already believed and interpreting how it does or doesn't fit your reality model and judging intent/message etc. That prevents the act of listen. One may only listen with a silent mind. When one gains the skill of listen, all words appear as preposterous delusional constructs rather than anything worth entering ones mind.

Only in mindful silence does one escape the fog to be capable of observing that one was in the fog of perpetually tainting/labeling/characterizing experiences by evaluating them through a Love/Fear association judgement system.

Taomaster, you are the master of your own delusions and nothing more or less, as is every other consciousness while it's having thoughts. All your thoughts and words are delusion, all my thoughts and words are delusion, because words and thoughts are human construct delusions as tools to attempt to categorize and evaluate the inexpressible and unfathomable oneness. If you are believing you are ahead of anyone else at knowing anything, you are merely living in a further removed from reality (oneness) layer of delusion.

If one wishes to liberate mind, gain awareness of why one can't know any-thing of Tao. Gain awareness of why one would be a fool to claim to know any-thing about Tao. Gain awareness of why the more one grows the belief of knowing Tao, the further from Tao one is.

That which can not be held in ones hand is not experienced through continued grasping.

The abyss is the point of no return and thats what makes it so freakin scary.

One can return. I returned and I know of others who have also returned.

One returns as one who has experienced unlimited timeless eternity of void-being. Any and every additional experience a consciousness has changes the consciousness.

One can never think the same way twice, walk into the same river twice, get splashed by the same wave twice, breath the same breath twice, etc.

Thoughts are not instantaneously expressed. This means if one is in a state of having thoughts, one can not be in the 'Now' that is all that can be non-delusion.

The closest one can approach to the void while thinking of the void (or anything) is infinitely distant.

When one gains complete mindfulness (or takes huge amounts of nettle tea or various other perception-shifting helpers your brain was designed to interact with), one can still the mind enough to gain the awareness one never could have been outside the void, one simply couldn't recognize it because ones own delusions/illusions were always obscuring the omnipresent void/oneness from being perceived.

Chose to experience inward silence without delusion, and one is experiencing the void they always have been in but lacking awareness. It's not a state of being text could ever do more than stumble in the dark at describing, I choose to attempt it because I have acquired a taste for stumbling in the dark.

The singular key is simply mindfulness. Recognize ones thoughts are ones exclusive domain, and therefore one always has perfect mindfulness. Appreciation of that realization is all one needs to manifest perfect mindfulness, cease thought and enter the state of timeless being that is the void.

It's not scary or happy. If something is scary or happy that is not the void, that is peering at the void in fear without experiencing the void. The void doesn't have concepts like scary or happy, the void is the oneness of being. To impose human text based descriptors to it is similarly effective as waving ones hands towards the ocean to evaporate it. It does something, but other consciousnesses will have a limited ability to appreciate or even detect your efforts.

With unlimited Love,

-Bud

C (speed of light) is no limitation.

C is a product of the delusion of time (an artifact of conventional human perception limitations) and distance (an artifact of limited perspective).

Einstein had a coin to flip on taking the guess of relative nature making space and time inseparable and one in the same, or choose to believe in entanglement of all things giving the illusion of being "matter". He thought it seemed too unbelievable that all 'things' across all 'distance' would have instantaneous links between them, he coined it "spooky action at a distance" and chose to believe C was some hard rate limitation instead of universal entanglement.

Later experiments in quantum mechanics showed conclusively, even over hundreds of thousands of light-years of 'distance' (doing the double slit experiment set with 'star-light' from telescopes), that entanglement is instantaneous to the limitations of current human tools to measure it.

This shows not only is C no sort of limit at all, but that C itself is nothing more than a byproduct of a pair of delusions, time and space.

Relativity was known to be obsolete before it was adopted, however due to the reality-crippling impact of ego's in 'science' (faith based belief of reality chosen by a close-minded committee on the mis-interpretation of human perception artifacts), it tends to only advance one old 'scientists' funeral at a time, quite irrelevant of current experimental observation (which is also inherently showing only perception artifacts).

When one thinks in terms of 'time', one is confusing the delusion of there own perception limitations.

When one thinks in terms of 'space', one is confusing the delusion of there own perspective limitations.

When one thinks in terms of 'rate', one is thinking of an artifact created by dividing the delusion of 'space' by the delusion of 'time', the result is a construct product. Or if you take Einstein's slightly more correct space-time unity approach, 'rate' is a product of one delusion and some constructs. :-)

There can only be the void/oneness of ones mind. When one is choosing to having beliefs and thoughts based around ones beliefs, this is called delusion. While one chooses to maintain delusion, it matters not how much ritual and practice one puts into achieving enlightenment, until the delusions cease the enlightened state of being can not be recognized.

With unlimited Love,

-Bud

Text inherently can not contain Truth. Text can express "human reality truths" which is exclusively delusion, but can be beautiful and seem true-like if one chooses to interpret it in a true-like way (yet it is still just someones personal interpretation).

Words/text attempting to represent human reality truths (aka someones delusion) are at best shadows of the real truth.

Impermanence - If you gained awareness of a thing in the material world it is formless energy momentarily providing the illusion of a defined form in the void of oneness.

There is only oneness- The oneness a consciousness can know has the illusion of being contained exclusively in the thoughts of the being perceiving it, but is still an artifact of perception, as there is only void/oneness.

Oneness and void- All things are all things. No things are no things. All things are no things. No things are all things.

A consciousness already has has perfect mindfulness. When one may be experiencing the illusion of uncontrolled racing thoughts, one is still experiencing exclusively ones own thoughts. Through recognition of this, one can accept awareness that perfect mindfulness was already exclusively in the domain of ones consciousness.

Once this realization is accepted, one only needs to continue unwavering awareness. There can be no doubt, or one has not fully recognized it as the inherent nature of your reality to the limited ability of your consciousness to perceive reality. If one encounters doubt, or fear, trace this back to the origin of the thought (self) and improve one's understanding of this reality.

This manifests perfect mindfulness (which one always had but may not have appreciated).

Gaining awareness of your inherent unlimited mindfulness does not require any chanting or bell dinging or priest/monk/nun blessings, or bowing, or ancient secret texts, or religious doctrines and rules etc.

It requires only accepting the reality that your thoughts are always and exclusively your thoughts. If another could share your minds thoughts, it would not be another, it would become your consciousness.

It makes no difference if you "believe" this or not, it remains a human-reality-'truth'.

After accepting recognition of ones domain over the control of all mind/thought including the illusion of "subconscious" (which is just the mind some choose not to perceive for whatever reasons), one may choose to think enlightened thoughts.

Enlightened thought does not involve beliefs, nor ritual, nor chanting, nor secret/power-ful words. You gain all the knowledge of the universe and cosmos, which is the knowledge there can only be the oneness. The oneness is the void and all one can know of it is indescribable yet unbreakable. This is the summation of all knowledge, all else is exclusively delusion.

To know the void is to know nothing. Embrace the void.

It is my humble pleasure to share this awareness as a gesture of compassion for any who also wish to conclude making the choice to suffer.

With unlimited Love,

-Bud

Hello bud-jetsun, and welcome to the forums!

 

Glad to have you aboard. That was quite an introduction, thank you :-)

Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you,

 

SC and the TTB team

Thank you kindly Soaring Crane. One can never soar higher or lower than one is choosing to soar at this moment. I am visualizing your wings of compassion taking you to boundless realms liberated of the illusion of elevation, where soaring is being.

Hello and welcome Bud.

 

You will find no shortage of likeminded persons with whom to discourse here.

 

Good luck and best wishes,

 

Chang.

I am thankful for your kind wishes Chang, and am enjoying the tremendous pleasure of viewing the text-representation of thoughts from so many beautiful loving aware-of-awakening minds.

Welcome, Bud!

Thank you Daeluin, I enjoy pondering what your avatar image means in my realities interpretation. Fishing the void for appreciation of the one Truth, the oneness that is inherently all and nothing.

You are all already the exclusive masters of all aspects of your reality, you need only accept and appreciate this to instantly conclude whatever earthly suffering you may be currently choosing to have.

I have had no formal instructor, no formal training, no formal spiritual practice, and because of this I have not been tainted by the limitations imposed by believing the thoughts of others. If you have beliefs, you can not escape delusion. I use no ritual, no practices, and no rules in my continuous elation of becoming enlightenment.

You already have everything you need inside you, there is no temple or statue or monk/nun/priest or thing to chant or repeat that can help you. All the things that are not realizing through self-awareness the inherent nature of your enlightenment is deluding you from realization you always were enlightened.

Recognize perfect mindfulness is always and only a choice, and always and only in your control, no matter if you recognize that control or not. Once you have perfect mindfulness, choose to think only enlightened thoughts. It becomes blissful simplicity in itself.

Nothing can be real beyond the oneness that is my thoughts, all, and still nothing.

I embrace the void. The void embraces me.

I choose not to suffer, as I am the compassion I choose to live.

I have conquered material attachment and give all to any.

I have tasted the state of timeless being untainted by ego. (through great assistance)

I experience unlimited joy, unlimited elation, and live unlimited compassion.

I am here for assistance in the illumination of my remaining shadows so I may choose to destroy them through understanding.

It is with great gratitude I humbly request the pleasure of discourse through words what can never be expressed in words in my journey of embracing the nature of reality.

With Unlimited Love,

-Bud