JinlianPai
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After seeing John Chang set that newspaper on fire I lost the luxury of saying what is possible and what is impossible.
He may charge alot.
but at least hes teaching.............
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Hello JinlianPai,
Welcome to the FP thread. My comments below in bold:
So this qigong lets one emit blue light!!???!!!!!
I would not say "emit". That term connotes in my mind, volitional control. My entire experience with FP Qigong since 1991 is that the blue light of its Healing Energy manifests of itself, whenever one is practicing the FP meditations correctly or is healing with it. And it it behaves in accord with a Greater Mind than the practitioner's.
--This, too, is a profound characteristic that makes FP Qigong, a spiritual art (to continue answering Pitisukha's question in his post #3010).
If so thats so cool!
Once you experience the blue light--and it doesn't take all that much practice--its startling reality and consistency in its tangible healing effects is something that you will find to be a whole lot more than cool...but you'll be at a loss for words to describe it.
My question is what does the blue light mean?
Until you have practiced enough FP Qigong to manifest it spontaneously and effortlessly, and directly feel its effects, it has no meaning for you. And the blue light doesn't mean anything to anyone else who hasn't experienced it. Words are not things.
At some point can it be done at will?
by "done" if you mean manifest the visible blue healing light in one's aura or to transfer it to another person with healing effect, the answer is "Yes".
What are some cool exps that you exp with the blue light.(ex - "I was standing in line at walmart and someone bumped into me and I started to get hot and emit blue light.")
As I stated about 2+ years ago on this thread, one of the most delightful side-effects of the FP Qigong is that the blue healing light can not only be felt but can also be "seen" by others (who are not FP practitioners) internally--and with their eyes closed--when an FPCK adept is healing that person. -- and this is another effect that qualifies Flying Phoenix Qigong as a spiritual art.
Such is Flying Phoenix Qigong's bona fide spiritual valence, which stands in blinding contrast to the wide number of mundane calisthenics published on videos these recent years deceptively labeled "Qigong" and made-up by self-proclaimed "energy experts" that do absolutely NOTHING in terms of providing healing effects that can be objectively verified, measured, and repeated (--or even subjectively "verified", no matter how hard the duped practitioner or fanatic wishes or wants to believe that he or she is healing himself with the downstream hokum they've bought into.) This is not to say that FP Qigong is the only Qigong method that effectively promotes self-healing and enables one to heal others. There are, of course, a many powerful and effective Qigong traditions equal to FP Qigong in profundity--such as Tao Tan Pai (Taoist Elixir Method), which I also teach.
I just to wish to remind everyone--especially beginners--that with just 6-9 months of consistent practice of FP Qigong, they will have under their belt an experiential frame-of-reference by which they can evaluate other Qigong methods and meditation systems and be able to tell the precious from the dross. In other words, they will have developed within themselves a most useful "Weird Shit-O-Meter"!
Sifu Terry Dunn
Thank you for your response im taking some time to fully digest everything you said ill give a more detailed response later.
Thankyou again.
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If your jealous of people who lives in caves then you might be a tao bum.
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Well in a full system of cultivation there is seated meds standing meds, meds with eyes open eyes closed. Martial meds spiritual meds and healing meds.
Kunlun is nice but its not kung fu.
It is spiritual alchemy.
Sometimes for things like this it is good to have a teacher to explain this things like this.
Meditations in a system have a purpose.
One of the many reasons that high level alchemy was given to martial artists was to hide and protect the teaching so thus it is preserved.
Its a very old philosophy if someone is hurting you go learn kung fu and learn how to protect yourself.
There are many who talk and dabble in meds but few who actually understand why..............
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That sounds messed up.
Ive had similar exps.
Just do seated stillness meditation with eyes open or standing meditation with the eyes open.
and do taichi.
Eyes open builds the guardian chi.
Taichi is a martial chikung. That builds the energy martially in the body. When you feel them vamping you affecting you just think about your martial energy and your aura will change and ward it off.
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The Great Lama
A thing that has always interested me about the dalai lama was the virtue that came with it.
Just think about it we as westerners can sense the virtue of the title even though it has no direct effect in our lives.
Theres something to it.
Something I cant place.
But my intuition says that he is needed and that he is good and that it represents one of the last unbroken lines of spirituality left in the world.
And something like the hes guardian of but I dont know what but that the vibe I get.
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Yes that is what I was thinking.
Him stepping down still doesnt prevent the chinese from making their own.
He must know this.
So what this move must indicate that by him stepping down that there wont be 2 dalai lamas. One chinese approved the other tibetan approved.
Which would mean that if something like this would happen this would only cause more hurt bloodshed and ruin the legacy of the dalai lama.
and if thats the case.
This really means that the dalai lama the real dalai lama is going to be underground for awhile.
The biggest question is why is china hell bent on tibet?
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The abyss is the point of no return and thats what makes it so freakin scary.
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The link above answered some questions for me this is the first time that i read an article that combined thunderbolt naval hum in the heart, and dissolving into radiance all in one spot.
The content from the article
"The “Void” and the “Diamond-Thunderbolt” Tibetan lnitiatic Teachings
The esoteric Tibetan teachings found here are taken from the Bde-Michog-Tantra (in Sanskrit: ShrIcakrasambhara), which was attributed to Yeshes-Senge, a monk of the gNas-rNying sect, published for the first time in 1919 with an introduction, a synopsis, and a partial English translation by the lama Kazi Dawa Samdup, in volume VII of the series of Tantrik Texts edited by Arthur Avalon. The excerpts published here correspond to pages 54-56 and 77-82 of this edition.’”These are two contemplative processes, the first aimed at detaching the mind, the second to free the senses, in order to attain samadhi in relation to various objects in a series that leads to the supreme state of shunyata.In both sets of instructions the reader will notice how the various images are connected to particular points in the human body on which the mental focus is directed. In the first set we begin with images of deities that are progressively interiorized and simplified, until the mind identifies with them and realizes their essence as rDorje. The term “rDorje” (in Sanskrit: vajra) has the double meaning of “diamond” and “thunderbolt.” It designates that which is hard, permanent, and indestructible like a diamond, and that which is sudden and irresistible like a thunderbolt. This is the basic principle of the magical resurrection. The supreme, triple secret of Tibetan Tantrism is said to be the “diamond-thunderbolt” of the mind, word, and body.There is an interesting relationship between vajra and shunyata in these doctrines. Shunyata is a term of Mahayana Buddhism. While in original Buddhism the concept of nirvana, which does not at all mean annihilation, is opposed to samsara, Mahayana Buddhism conceives samsara and nirvana as two coexistent aspects of a higher reality, or better, a higher state of consciousness, called shunyata. Shunyata literally means “emptiness,” “void.” It is the state of an absolute metaphysical freedom, a depth that can contain and will anything, without being altered or moved. Understood as ba sis and substance of all things (in Tibetan it is called Kungzhi), its identification to vajra shows it as the same radiant, incorruptible essence, consisting of pure activity, which the Hellenic traditions claimed the intelligible world or the world of “beings” was made of. In regard to the second group of contemplations, we need to add the following. The world that we know is only our world, a world of images that the mind projects outward.We mistake these images for reality and do not realize that we are constantly walking in circles around ourselves. In order to attain “knowledge” and the vision of the world of the real, we need to withdraw our consciousness from the images and to suspend the impulse whereby we project outward that which acts within our inner world, affected by desire. It is possible to withdraw and to concentrate the mind on a minute, fixed point and to receive in it the sensible impressions, until an ensuing transformation allows us to recognize things as they are in themselves, and no longer as shadows of phenomena. This is the meaning of samadhi. This should suffice as a general orientation for the second group of practices. They lead to a samadhi, first in regard to the various senses, and then, through this samadhi, to a higher type of samadhi, which is the realization of shunyata.Imagine in one’s navel a white eight-petaled lotus. In the center of this white lotus is a lunar disk. Upon this disk there are the personifications of the Diamond- Thunderbolt (rDorje-Sems-Pah-in Sanskrit: Vajra-sattva) and of His Spouse (rDorje-sNyems-ma) in close embrace, the Mantra “HUM” being in their hearts.Then imagine that rays of light issue from the “HUM” in all directions, vividly defining in the mind both the chief Devata (God) and the sur¬rounding space as the vessel, and the other Devatas and Beings occupying it as the vessel’s content. Fix the attention on this mental picture. Then imagine that the rays of light emitted from the “HUM” excite all these into activity. The process is like that of a magnet exciting movement of par¬ticles of iron dust (filings). Then, as the rays are gradually drawn back, imagine that all the exter¬nal space and its contents are drawn inward and absorbed into the form of the principal external Deity (Heruka and His consort). This process is lik¬ened to the absorption of mercury by cow dung.Next of the two principal Devatas the female is absorbed in the male, and the two into one face and two hands. This process is likened to that of a tortoise contracting its limbs.Then the consort of the external (god) Heruka is absorbed in the male and this into the Diamond- Thunderbolt in the navel. The consort of this Deity, too, sinks into the male. Then gradually the male figure itself sinks into the “HUM” in the heart and the “HUM” gradually resolves itself into the Bindu (dot). This process is likened to that of meteoric lights dissolving into each other.Then finally even the Bindu itself gradually becomes fainter and fainter until it fades away and disappears altogether, a process that is likened to salt dissolving in water. Such are the five principle processes of meditation illustrated by what are called the five radical similes. In the uncurtailed or unabridged process (rDzogsrim) the mental pictures (sNang-va) are like dresses, light rays, waves of water; but in them-selves and according to their own true nature they are like dancers, the sun, and the ocean.”° The final process of absorption and absence of all thoughts is likened to that of a bubble sinking back into water, or a rain-bow melting away into the skies.So the process is illustrated in various manners by various similes.Finally, the keeping of the mind in a state of tranquillity devoid of objects is called the process of concentration on the Diamond-Thunderbolt (rDorje-SemsdPah= shunyata).Assuming that he has attained to the stage of firm concentration of the mind and that he wishes to proceed further in the perfect or final stage (meditation on the formless), he should proceed thus:-Either in the morn¬ing (or any other time) let him take an easy position, cross-legged, and go through as a preliminary step the previously described meditation on Forms (bsKyed-rims). Let him imagine that the HUM inside his heart sheds out rays of light on all outer space and the objects therein. They are all gathered within the body. The Female Devata, too, is drawn in through the nostrils into one’s own heart. Having thought of oneself as the two-handed (Heruka), imagine the Guru on one’s head.” Put forth intense faith in him, and pray: “I beseech thee, cause pure samadhi to grow in my mind.”Then imagine on the (Tibetan) letter “A” a lunar disk, red and white, about the size of half of a pea inside one’s heart. Upon the lunar disk imagine a light-point (a zero or Bindu) about the size of a mustard seed that is the concentrated form of one’s mind. Fix the mind on that and regulate the breath gently (literally, “make it a gentle pair”). When one is well practiced, the mind is held and does not run astray, but remains fixed. Then one attains the blissful and clear samadhi. When one attains stability or firmness in that (samadhi), then transfer the imagination to another of the sense organs. Go through the preliminary step described above. For the actual method: imagine within the two pupils that there are two very fine bright white points, one in each eye.Close the eyes and imagine in your mind that the points are there. When the mind gets accustomed to that, then look on various objects... On being well practiced the point is constantly and vividly present to the mind’s eye. No matter on whatever object the eye may fall, samadhi is produced. Having achieved stability in that, draw in the point within the heart, and imagine that the latter gains great brilliancy and clearness, and keep the mind tranquil (literally, at a level: mNyamzbhag); this will produce samadhi of the most excellent kind, or the state of Tranquillity. After this, transfer the imagination to the ears. The preliminary steps are as described before. For the actual meditation:- Imagine two blue Points or Dots upon two lunar disks the size of half a pea inside each ear and meditate upon them, in a place free from noise. When you have succeeded in fixing the mind upon them, listen to sounds, at the same time keeping the mind fixed upon the two Points and not letting it stray from them.On being practiced in that, one attains vividness of the mind-picture and samadhi follows on hearing sound. When one has gained stability in this, withdraw the Points inside the heart and imagine that the Points have gained blazing brilliancy and vividness. From this excellent samadhi or Tranquility (state of mental level) is produced. Then transfer the imagination to the Nose. The preliminaries are the same as above:-Imagine a yellow Point on a lunar disk in the cavity of each nostril in a place free from any odor, and concentrate your mind on that. When the mind is fixed, smell various odors, keeping the mind fixed on the yellow Points, without letting the mind stray away. When one gets used to that, on the perception of odors there is produced samadhi. When firmness is gained in this (state), draw the Points into the heart. By this, brilliancy and vividness of the Point is produced and practice in this produces samadhi.Next transfer the imagination to the Tongue. Preliminaries the same as above:-Imagine a red Point on a lunar disk at the root of the tongue and meditate on it, without tasting any flavor. Concentrate your mind on it, do not let it stray.Then, when the mind is fixed on the Point, taste various flavors, keeping the mind concentrated on the Point. Then draw it inside the heart. When the Point attains brilliancy and vividness, samadhi is produced through the sense of taste. Then transfer one’s imagination to the (entire) body. Preliminaries the same as above. Either at the root of the secret parts (that is, the junction of the penis and the scrotum), or on your forehead, imagine a green Point on a lunar disk, and fix your mind on it without touching anything. When your mind has attained some degree of fixity on that spot, try concentration, touching various things and keeping the mind from straying. When vividness of the Point is obtained, practice until it is quite firm, then draw the Point in the place of touch into the Point within the heart, and meditate upon that, until great brilliance and vividness is obtained, which will produce Tranquillity or excellent samadhi.’”Then after that, transfer the imagination to the mind, which moves everywhere. Preliminaries same as above. Actual process:-Imagine a very small pink Point on the top of that already imagined to be within the heart.Try the meditation in a very quiet place at first. When you have succeeded in concentrating your mind, try the meditation in company where you are sure that some evil passions will be excited such as lust or the like. Then imagine that the chief passion-Moha”” (infatuation)-which accompanies all other evil passions is concentrated in it. Think that it is absorbed into a blue Point. Fix the mind on that. On getting accustomed in that (practice), passions will not arise; or should they do so, they are controlled by the mind. When one has attained firmness in that, sink the blue Point into the pink Point, and that into the white and red Point below it. The last sinks into the moon-disk, which in its turn is dissolved or disappears in the sky like a cloud (that has disappeared).Then there remains only Emptiness (shunyata or sTongpa), in which the mind is to be kept at a level. This will produce the profound tranquil state samadhi called ZhigNas (literally, “Resting-in-peace”). Then rising from the state of Tranquillity (samadhi), imagine again the lunar disks and the Points to be present or springing forth simultaneously: and that one’s ownself, too, is at once trans-formed into the Heruka (God). Regard external objects as being only visible and apparently true, but having no independent and absolute reality in themselves.” Meditating thus till each stage has shown its sign of perfection or proficiency, one at last attains proficiency or perfection in the whole, as a result of which one obtains profound Tranquillity, which is the realization of Shunyatd, which is bliss and clarity. Continuation in these practices produces the knowledge of the path (mThong-Lam), from is produced Buddha-hood. This is the stage of conferring grace and blessing (bdag-byndrlabs-pahi) on oneself, accompanied by Baja (Sabon).”
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Ok I was thumbing thru this thread and I dont know how I missed this.
So this qigong lets one emit blue light!!???!!!!!
If so thats so cool!
My question is what does the blue light mean?
At some point can it be done at will?
What are some cool exps that you exp with the blue light.(ex - "I was standing in line at walmart and someone bumped into me and I started to get hot and emit blue light.")
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Another syg video thats cool but I want to know is when or if you are going to do video releases for the following..
- Yau Kung Mun, Flexible Power Sect, a purely internal Shaolin system, one of the oldest Shaolin arts still in existance today
- Wun Yuen Yat Hei Jeung, Primordial Chaos One Qi Palm, one of the oldest Daoist internal martial arts
- Bak Fu Pai, White Tiger Kung Fu, traditional family style of internal Kung Fu
- Sui Jeung, Shattering Palm System, internal Kung Fu
- Dao Gar, Daoist Family, internal Daoist Kung Fu system
I was looking thru your online store and didnt see products for these. Are videos going to be made for these as well?
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No, and the answer to your question should be obvious. In post #2979, I was writing ONLY in reference to GM Doo Wai's Youtube video condemning and disavowing his relationship to that said former student.
If Golden Flying Phoenix DVD instruction contains footage of GM Doo Wai, and the grandmaster says that what he is doing is Golden Flying Phoenix, then it is what he says it is.
I have not seen the Golden Flying Phoenix video/DVD, I do not know the website or Sifu Dan Rochelle who apparently is associated with that website, so I have no other comment.
Sifu Terry Dunn
www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html
Thanks for the reply.
I havent bought anything from that website and I just didnt know what to make of any of it.
Thanks again.
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To the FP Community:
I had the following exchange via Personal Messenger with JDR19 at the end of which John constructively asked that I post our conversation on this thread for the benefit of all--as sort of a public service announcement. It all started with my answering his last question in his posting #2892 on Page 181 of the thread. So here it is:
Sent 13 August 2014 - 08:17 AM (by JDR19)
a friend bragging to me that he just bought the Flying Phoenix Level 2 and Level 3 meditations from GM James Lacy (that after talking with him, he made him an personal offer with the DVDs -for a limited period of time).I started to look into that and just stumbled unto this site www.flyingphoenix.us . After skimming through it it seemed to me that those are not really the answers a student after years of training; on the FAQ page the answers were so bad.. i wonder if a 3rd grader wrote those. I've seen on this forum, you describing concepts and i was impressed how accurate and simple your descriptions were.
If the owner of the site ( i don't know if it's J. Lacy or not -it doesn't matter ) would be a legit student of GM Doo Wai, than he'd know better - would be more knowledgeable.
I wanted to buy those too and by the time i get a good foundations with Chi Kung for Health DVDs, to practice Level 2 and so on daily.
Can you share more on the full system of Flying Phoenix? Like: how many levels there are, who teaches this system, how much it takes for every level, how much it takes to master the full system? things like that.
P.S. at first i wanted to post this on the forum, but i don't want to advertise frauds ( in case it is one )
thanks in advance
My reply:
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Sent 14 August 2014 - 09:53 PM
I am only aware of two levels of Flying Phoenix Chi kung;
The Level I put on the 6 volumes of my DVD series.
And the Advanced Flying Phoenix system which crosses the line into martial qigong. It is 9 moving meditations (all standing) that looks in part similar to other internal martial arts such as Tai Chi and LHBF. the advanced FP system is taught only person-to-person.
**Now there is also a set of Seated Meditations called Red Lotus Flying Phoenix, which I consider a companion art--or sort of a "sister art"--to the Monk Serves Wine series of FP seated meditations taught on Volumes 2 and 7 of my DVD series. Red Lotus FP Seated Meditations have different health effects compared to the Monk Serves Wine series of seated meditations of the FP Qigong system. I know that this may sound confusing, but that's the best that I can draw distinctions between these related arts at this time.**
Outside of GM Doo Wai, who is reportedly retired, I am the only teacher of Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditations (Fei Feng San Gung) art in the world.
Up to this point, I have not said anything on the FPCK discussion thread about James Lacy other than the fact that GM Doo Wai has gone out of his way to vehemently publish Myspace and then Youtube videos denouncing Mr. Lacy and disavowing anything that he says or teaches as being approved by him. And effectively calling him out as a thief and a liar.
I just found this latest videotape on Youtube by GM Doo Wai that makes it absolutely clear that Lacey is not authorized to teach any infinitesimal part of the Bok Fu Pai tradition, of which Flying Phoenix is a basic foundation, and that anything tha Lacey has on videotape was allegedly STOLEN from GM Doo Wai.
Based entirely on and in deference to GM Doo Wai's statements in this Youtube announcement, I therefore will state at this time that I personally would not trust any publication put out by James Lacy. He might have footage of Grandmaster Doo Wai but he certainly does NOT have GM Doo Wai's approval to publish the material nor claim to be the authoritative teacher of anything related to GMDW's family martial or healing arts.
Besides myself, Sifu Garry Hearfield in Australia is the only person GM Doo Wai has publicly recommended to learn his arts from. My good friend Sifu Garry is the sole preserver of GM Doo Wai's most powerful family martial arts--and stands in line, I believe, to be the next lineage holder of these arts:
Bok Fu Pai
Omei Mountain Bak Mei
Tibetan Burning Palm System
Golden Mantis Neikung
Sunn Yi Gung
and more.
Besides Flying Phoenix Qigong, I preserve:
Eight Sections of Energy Combined - a complete internal martial art
10,000 Buddhas Meditation (54 martial and health Qigong exercises)
Eagle Claw Ten Hook Attack Form (one Bok Fu Pai form).
and more.
Sifu Terry Dunn
JDR19's reply:
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Sent 16 August 2014 - 08:29 AM
here:
http://thetaobums.co...i-kung/page-181
If you would be so kind and quote the last question of post #2892 and paste your response in the thread too. Maybe others will benefit from it, by knowing to avoid James Lacey.
P.S. i saw your post on facebook about attaining immortality from practicing FPCHQ. Please expand more on that topic. To me seemed a little bit overestimated, but i'm no expert in the system; i don't realize how complex it is and how well structured.
Keep doing what you're doing. You're changing lives
Thank you for your response
Ok so what about the golden flying phoenix meds thats being sold here?
http://www.whitetigerkungfu.com/golden_flying_phoenix1.html
is this something not to be trusted as well?
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Like Marblehead mentioned, looking at history, I'm forced to disagree. imo Blaming it on the demonic lets the human race off a little too easy.
I've enjoyed Game of Thrones. Very, very bloody. Not just the personal killing of main characters but the off screen implication's of 100's and 1,000's are being slaughtered for trivial reasons. Its atrocious but its also bloody great series. Its season is over, but HBO is reshowing an older series Rome. Its even bloodier, all the conspiracy and nudity plus twice the killing. Worse its real, our ancestors lived like that. Death meant something else, was more common, less shocking. Slavery and murder, including mass murder and genocides common and acceptable parts of life.
Saying it is one thing but seeing it is another.....You have the luxury of saying that but I think if you actually see it then you would agree with me that no creature that god made has genocide in its nature unless influenced by something outside of its nature.
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But that has been going on for thousands of years and is still going on today. In fact, it doesn't even have to be about race, it can just as easily be about religion or all the various forms of greed.
And most people just won't leave the Jews alone. There's always some group wanting to kill them.
Ah! The more differences we notice between ourself and others gives us more reasons to hate the others who are different.
Good point. Let me put it like this.
Have you ever seen the movie "snow white and the huntress"?
When the evil queen ruled things all the land around her started to turn evil and decay.
There is some truth to this.
If all the other races of man were destroyed this would change the spirit of mankind for good as the different races bring balance to mankind. The surviving race that enacted the racism would have very bad karma and aura.
The earth would reflect this and change as well.
and not for the better.... the world would become darker.
Just like you cant have an evil and dark entity in your house without it affecting you the earth can not handle such a large and evil presence in the physical realm.
There is much to this.
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Racism is a very human thing.
Physical problems often have a spiritual root.
Racism is more than a slight apprehension when around someone from another race...
The killing of women and children the enslavement of entire races....is demonic and not in human nature.
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Blood connects the spirit with the flesh.
The physical world is the spiritual world made manifest.
All the different races of man has a different spirit.
So when you hear of things like killing of an entire race of people or bloodlines and other racist things just look at it from a more spiritual point of view to see whats going on.
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Careful saying that one has god consciousness that is close to blasphemy....
its arrogant for man to say he has this and when this is said people look for the god consciousness instead of looking for god.
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"The oil is Ming; and the light is Xing. If a lantern without oil, then, it cannot produce light. Hence, if a lantern cannot produce light, then the lantern cannot manifest its function of shedding lights. Cultivating the principles of Tao is analogous to accumulate and save oil to keep the lantern of being lit, then, life would have been full of brilliancy."
Yes this was my understanding as well
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So you think that ming gong is qigong?
How can ming be acheived without alchemy?
And ming once cultivated how does that affect the xing is the xing a futher development of the ming?
What Im saying is how can ming be attained without it affecting the xing?
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just making sure you knew which teachers you were referencing when talking about disrespect and sins
Gotcha!
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john changs teacher murdered an entire village..............
Well im not going to speak on another's man sin.
But in both the magus of java and opening the dragon gate the teachers from those books didnt hesitate to put their students back in line.
Sometimes students need to be put in their place.
And get reminded that they are not the "master" they think they are.
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This is what happens when you have no teacher.
Ego's get out of whack.
Teachers humble either by their presence words or actions....
Both wang and john got quite familiar with the back side of their teachers hand.....
If you studied neikung in china under a classical teacher disrespect would not be tolerated without punishment.
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Okay then go and learn it, from the books, which if read corectly contain no methods.. you will find yourself without direction, and not really knowing what you are doing. Reading all kinds of text from different people and linages and trying to put them into your own understanding. Which is how false schools are created
Just saying, you wont understand anything, not unless you have a teacher that is already at least a Di Xian, who can explain things to you. Your choice.
So tru kinda reminds me of the guys from here http://mopai.forumotion.cc/ who do the exact same as you describe....
Its funny and sad....
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