bubullo

thanks

a lot of things are more clear

effectively i really see that the mind can trick the experience and start to imagine a lot of things

there is a potential to focalise on a movement too and it's not good

really hard by moments to not be trapped by this things and just follow the things but clearly i can observe some benefits

i see the origin is too much tensions too and this movement alleviate it (the most apparent...certainly the road is long)

i wait for the gift of the tao , i will make the close describe in light warrior morning and night and i will see (the close alleviate some weird sensations)

i practice a little of taichi with some basic qigong and a lot of standing and walking and just more attention in the course of the day

really wonderful practices really open my eyes i couldn't think it was like that...some days are a little...strange....but it's fantastic if i look 9 months back....and the boredom depression

really thank you for your advices and explaination

best

ok

thanks a lot

i read the forum since several months and it is really nice to have all this infos

best

Co-incidence?

 

I recently read something pertinent about this, by a SM-Neigong teacher. I also had Friend PM me about something similar (sorry I haven't got back to you yet mate).

 

The appearance of movement in SM neigong is due to a specific thing, it does not refer simply to any movements. This is what makes it different to many of the methods taught usually under a variation of zifa qigong (spontaneous qigong). That is also not to say that the arising external movements within SM neigong cannot occur in other neigong. It is a recognition of a neigon phenomena. The difference between SM neigong an dother neigong is the lineage.

 

Shou gong 收功, is usually translated as 'closing practice' however 'shou' can mean; to accept / to collect / to put away / to restrain / to stop. This method is intended to help you shift back from practice to normal functioning. Have the intent for the movements to stop, cease, calm down. If later on they start up again, use the intent again.

 

Best,

ok thanks

i must admit my intent is not always clear

so my spontaneous movement doesn't give me the same things than the stillness movement

the system of michael lomax need a "gift" by an instructor ?

hi

i practice zhan zhang minimum one 30 45 mn session sometimes 3 or 4 sessions

i learn bagua walking too and i have a training in yang taichi with the qigong (i don't pracice the form alot but i practice the qigongset)

the spontaneous movement involve a lot of arms mouvement in high position (45° or more) sometimes i rest on the toes

a lot of circle of the hand on front of me (hands face the floor)

sometimes i strech back my arms and rest a moment

regulary i have only one arm in action sometimes the second make the same movements after but not always

a lot of 180° turning (face look at 180°)

pelvis rotation

walking (not really but if i initiate clearly the walking become spontanous)

but i clearly see now that i can really easely change the nature and speed of movement (it's really hard to stay in a neutral mind)

sometimes it is the breathing who is in game like a big resistance (but moving) so i must breath really slowly (if i don't want this i can restart a normal breathing )

sensation of mouvement pressure inside on top of the belly sometimes it last several days (before it was in the chest but no more it was a bit of stress when it lasted several days without stopping)

i have not a good conscious my body it is better slowly but i know i have a really long road i'm not a guy really relaxed too ( i think i have tried all the nchimical ways to escape the world but slowly this urge fade and in fact if i smoke just a little of weeds the spontaneous movements are really hard control i must do it or lying a moment ( and i have the breathing pattern who start)

i know this movements are not really important i just want to havre some good fundations for my health i have 40 year old and several years of fybromalgic syndrom, ( but( it is really really better now and i don't take medication anymore ) and i really like to enter the inner alchimy practice and martial work ( i see so much benefits in my life....but strange days too..to be honnest .i'd like to be buddha too! but i think this is relatively normal in the start of the practice)

thank you for your advice and excuse me for my terrible english

best regards

best

hello

i practice qigong since 8 or 9 months for medical problems (it's help a lot ) and i have several questions

since the start i have experienced spontaneous movement

usually i breath a little (sometimes only several seconds) and it start or during zhang zhuang

no matter how well i close the session the movements can restart later

if i want i can ignore it (i just feel various pressure points)

is it the same process than stilness movement ( i have the book of michael lomax and i wait for his dvd)?

in the book the closing process is very interresting and i try to follow it but if i have a brief moment of this movement during the day (not in a session) it is very long to close and in fact totally impractible ( in a car or in the street)

i try to not giving too much impoortance to this phenomenes but i'd like to be sure that i dont let qi stagnation

i suppose i'm not alone to experiment this how do you deal with this ?

thanks

hello i read the forum since june

i'm really happy to find this place with a lot of info

i practice qigong taichi and circle walking

best regards