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Yes its true the top one hundred earners made over 160 billion pounds last year which is enough according to Oxfam to rid the world of poverty four times over.

 

"the Dao of heaven is to take from those who have far too much and give to those who do not have enough

Man's way is different;

he takes from those who do not have enough and gives to those who already have far too much."

Li Erh Xian Shi

 

Should a Daoist be rich?

Is there really any hope for the human race?

They add absolutely no value to a society. Read "War is a Racket" by General Smedley Butler.

^{The line striked out must have been done by another subtle/deceased being. A deceased person has to wait years to be able to affect the more physical}

^{world. I had a subtle/deceased person lift me partially on one side to fix my back. The people in my apartment have grown friendlier since I told them what}

^{the plate of food is all about. I found that they don't like to move from apartment to apartment or house to house,there are too many dangers.}

Same thing as I'm getting at..."I don't understand a word you just said"...

 

Are you reading a short story to us, or is this some conspiracy theory, or sci-fi plot, or what?

 

No offense meant...I just feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation and have no idea what's going on...

It is not a conspiracy theory, or short story. There are certain patterns happening with subtle/deceased people.

It happens through ignorance and lack of resources. The higher developed people (with abilities, I won't call them

super powers) can't teach. The lesser developed people don't have the ability to talk and have to rely on improvised

sign language.

People usually suffer. The subtle/deceased people encountered a radical increase in learning abilities...even the muscle

takers. The muscle takers have fallen out of love with muscle taking. They found too much discomfort. They told me that

they are in so much discomfort that they can't perform one push-up. Like I said before the usually live 5-7 years in discomfort

and die. I think that they die of heart failure. In the period that they are muscle-taking, they don't create or increase their own

body/muscle mass.

The females usually end up with abilities, they usually don't muscle take. The female healer in my bedroom has had teachings on emptiness.

whaaaaaa the f..........

 

I don't understand. What are you getting to?

I apologize. All the males in the apartment weren't doing the muscle-taking/fat giving. The healer/supplier wasn't mass taking/fat giving. The males in the other bedroom weren't doing the muscle-taking/fat-giving.

Don't fault subtle beings, they don't know any better. Too much ignorance out there. There is a trend out there of fat injecting to the body and the taking of muscle mass through a disc, circular type object, which has a frame and is put on the body. It is happening in every house and it is happening in undeveloped countries.

There's also some interesting connections between the mythical Prometheus and Lucifer. Prometheus was the champion of humans and brought us knowledge of fire, and was punished as a result. Lucifer means "bringer of light", which is different than the Christian notion of him as just the ultimate evil.

 

Also, a lot of the notions we have of 'the devil' are Christian twistings of earlier pagan teachings that were a lot less nefarious than we come to believe. I believe the image of the horned goat is a twisting of early fertility gods, like Pan. Thus the root of the word "horny". Basically a demonization of our sexual impulse... and we can see how that's working out for the Catholic church (ie; sex scandals).

 

Even the word HELL didn't mean what we believe it to be today, I think it was just a place in the earth... I remember hearing that the native americans where really put off with the christian idea that the center of earth was supposedly a place of great evil. Maybe that explains why Western culture is so destructive of our earth. Un-grounded. Interesting that the base chakra (muladhara) is associated with RED (the color of the devil).

 

This isn't to say there isn't actual evil in the world, or to say that evil is a good thing. of course not. Just that many of the things that masquerade as good are in fact evil and likewise... it gets complicated

The statue of Prometheus at the Rockefeller Center in New York City does resemble Lucifer.

Also, take a look at this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lucifer_Liege_Luc_Viatour.jpg

Look at the crown near his lap. It shows two spokes broken off. Lucifer

could have been the victim of a ritual since in the Bible it does outline

that a crown of thorns was put on Jesus Christ before his death, along with the Earthquake. Also, some hanky panky happened to Virocana, the giant king. He, along with Amitabha Buddha and the directional Buddhas, were passed off a 7-ray crown I think.

The seven ray crown, I suspect, is earned by an Angel when they perform the

seven punishments (I'd rather call them abuses). I suspect that the seven punishments are the casting of the seven poisons in Revelations.

One more note, I have a picture of Helios (Colossus of Rhodes). His picture shows a torch, a bow and arrows (pay particular attention to the word "Sinner" in the Bible), and a nine ray crown. Part of the picture is my avatar.

"Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven" was uttered by Satan in John Milton's "Paradise Lost".

 

Julius Caesar is attributed with a similar phrase (well Caesar came first), that being "I'd rather be the first man in a barbarian village than be the second man in Rome".

 

So, yeah, common strain.

 

 

 

No, I never watched the video

 

[edit] Okay, watched the bit you were referring to-

 

 

 

Yeah, I was brought up Catholic, and I always wondered at the Satanists, because they were worshiping an entity who fundamentally hated them.

 

Anyway, reading through some Satanist stuff later on, it seemed that there are quite a few groups who aren't so much about "worshiping satan", but more about the "question God, question authority, think for yourself, rugged individualism" type thing, which I do think is admirable.

 

I've got my own issues with some Christian concepts. For instance, God gave humans free will, because if they didn't CHOOSE to worship God, then the worship would be meaningless. After all, he made the angels so that they HAD to obey him, and he figured it'd be better to design something that could decide... oh, but wait, lucifer and a bunch of other angels sure did go against the programming, huh? But I digress.....

 

So God makes humans so they have free will, but then punishes them for exercising aforementioned free will if they choose the wrong way to live life? Huh. Doesn't seem like much of a choice. "Hey, worship me or don't. Your choice. I don't care. Buuuuuuut if you don't..... you're going to go to a pit of fire and torment for all eternity. But yeah, no, go ahead, live life how you want, it'd mean nothing if I made you worship me."

 

Not cool, IMHO. So, yeah, I guess I'm right up there with lucifer (down there with satan?) when it comes to saying "hey, God, what's the deal?"

 

Though I don't think lucifer/satan appreciates me associating myself with him. But what do I care? He hates me anyway......

 

On that note, I read somewhere that Voltaire, while on his deathbed, was visited by a priest there to conduct last rites.

 

When the priest asked if Voltaire would renounce satan and all of his evils, Voltaire reportedly replied-

 

"Now now, this is hardly the time to be making enemies".

 

+1 for covering all the bases

Keep in mind that the word "Satan" sprouts from "Shaitan" which means "adversary"

in Arabic.

I'm not altogether sure that Lucifer was adversary. Keep in mind the facial similarities

in between him, Mercury, Ares, and Genius (who is or was an Angel).

Thank you.

I think that it was through one of the links on the pages

that I found something worthwhile.

http://www.carnaval.com/montenegro/madonna/

The Black Madonna picture is something that I was looking for.

Also, the picture of St.Luke drawing a portrait.

The faces are darkened just like the afghan girl picture from

National Geographic. Also, like one of the pictures of Lucifer/Prometheus.

The Madonna name...from my assumptions, the teacher/student relationship

was called Father/Son due to language limitations.

Seems like I'm on the right track, as far as looking for what is

considered an "awakened being" and the signs of an "awakened being".

Some of the giants were called "Nehilim" and are considered awakened.

To find out if somebody is actually "learned" or awakened, I ask them what

exactly happened to Lucifer/Prometheus/Varuna.

I also ask how a person gains the nine ray crown.

ok. I don't get much affect focusing on just underneath the belly button 2-3 inches down 3-3 inches inside.

 

So I'm thinking what if the location of the true dan-tien has been hidden?

 

I was thinking ok maybe I can focus on the whole lower jiao and all it's extensions.

 

But more specifically there are 4 points I'd like to consider as being very important as perhaps even extending to the dan-tien.

 

The testicles, the hips (not waist) ie where the bladder is, where many people hang their pants at.. not where they sag below the buttocks but then again thatcould be another area altogether, the belly button, and the colon area... especially where you feel the peristaltic action, or feeling when you need to uh... defecate. There is a distinct feeling there and i've thought sometimes that may be where the source of kundalini is.. and that perhaps one of the reasons why kundalini has been so hard to awaken is because people in general hold a lot of discomfort (at least the one's not so sexually successful) around things having to do with the anus and the restroom stuff.

Base chakra?

 

I was definitely thinking the testicles though too. I always feel when doing a horse stance like a cauldron of energy between my legs underneath my perineum like my genitals hanging really low and a pumping sort of action there.

 

Also the mingmen area. It is funny that also kundalini might be the same as the mingmen in taoism.

 

So yea...

 

Lot of weird talk I know..

 

Just wanted to share my thoughts to see if anyone resonated with it.

It isn't a natural part of the body and neither is the mingmen. The "dan tien"

is a so-called empowerment. In Bruce Frantzis comments, it can drain energy

from the organs so it is best to stay away from that thing. The "Kundalini"

isn't part of the body. It is something that can get you to the office of

Caelus. The Kundalini is a foul/sin system.

A person is enlightened depending on the total context of that person's mind. The total context includes outer, inner, and secret levels. The outer level is what the person observes outside one's own person. The inner level is what the person observes inside one's own person that can still be communicated to others if desired. The secret level is what the person observes both outside and inside one's own person that cannot be communicated to anyone, even if desired.

 

Because of this, when we observe other people, we observe something incomplete. This assumes you treat the idea of other people seriously. We cannot observe any other person's secret level of being. One of the meanings of this is that we don't fully know the truest and most total meaning of the person's actions and expressions (actions are expressions and expressions are also actions).

 

If you don't take the idea of other people seriously, then people appear as mere artifacts of one's own lively shimmering awareness. As such, these artifacts cannot be said to be enlightened or unenlightened, because they are partial and transitory.

 

So whether you take the idea of other people seriously or not, you cannot know if someone is enlightened or not. Ever. The best you can do is guess or make an assumption.

 

Nonetheless, we all need to make choices. We have to choose which people to associate with and which ones to shun. Which people are we going to take more seriously and which ones are we going to take less seriously? If enlightenment cannot be the criterion that can be used for this purpose, then what can be? Is there any way to make judgements about people that is not pretentious or deluded?

 

I say yes there is. That way is to observe how various people affect your understanding of things, how they affect your life, and how they affect your ability to realize your highest aspirations.

 

In other words, you judge other people by judging their effect on you. At no point do you ever need to know if someone is enlightened or not. If someone has a beneficial effect on you, and that someone is in truth ignorant, that's great. If someone is actually enlightened but has a deleterious effect on you, that's terrible.

 

Because it's impossible to know whether or not the person is enlightened, it's also impossible to know how close the person is to enlightenment. If you don't know where the New York City is, it makes no sense to talk about how close someone is to the New York City.

 

The only thing we know is the content of our own personal experience. That's the only knowledge that has even just a chance to be valid and reliable. Everything else is pure speculation.

 

So saying something like "Steve f/ralis/goldisheavy/SereneBlue/-K-/any taobum, you are not enlightened" is completely pretentious. Maybe he or she is enlightened. Maybe not. I can't know and it doesn't matter to me. I tend to take other people seriously, so from my point of view, the state of other people's spiritual attainment is ultimately secret. It's a kind of secret I am not even interested in knowing.

 

There is a Zen koan about an abbot of the monastery using an ignorant idiot as a role model for meditation and Zen. The idiot would sit and sleep in the sitting posture for hours on end, and all the monks thought how amazing the attainment was and so they tried to outdo the idiot in their sitting. Then when the monks held debates, the idiot would make nonsensical statements without any understanding of Zen, and all the monks thought it was a very profound truth worth contemplating, and as a result deepened their own understanding. This way the village idiot became the teacher while the abbot found some time to relax.

 

There is another tale from the Vajrayana tradition. It goes something like this. Grandmother asked her grandson to bring Buddha's tooth as a relic worthy of veneration. Grandson was going away on a journey. This grandson instead spent too much time having fun, learned some things worth learning, and was returning home having completely forgotten about the tooth. Then he remembered he promised to bring his grandma Buddha's tooth. As he remembered this, he noticed a dead dog on the side of the road. So he took one of the dog's teeth and brought this tooth to his grandma. After a while he began to feel guilty for having tricked his grandmother in this way. So he came to his grandmother to confess that it was only some dog's tooth. When he came in, he noticed the tooth was levitating in the air surrounded by rainbows. He told his grandmother that it was only a dog's tooth and the grandma replied that it didn't matter. In her mind it was Buddha's tooth and it did the work of the Buddha's tooth.

 

There is another story about a sage who couldn't pronounce the mantra correctly and someone came over to teach the right pronunciation... I bet some of you know that story. Anyway, the point is the same.

 

What matters is how things affect you. It doesn't matter what those things are or are not.

Enlightened of the wallet (instead of having a heavier wallet) maybe.

Don't worry. It took me until a few months ago to find out what is what.

And an Arhat doesn't exist.

I woke up this morning.

 

No, I mean I REALLY just woke up.

 

For the past 2 years I got into this mental parasite, this "ancient root salvation practice" known as Kunlun.

 

In the past 2 years my health has declined... I lost nearly all my friends... I've felt more sick and depressed than I've ever been, except in those odd "bliss moments" during my KL practice.

 

I've had all sorts of crazy movements, body shaking, bliss and flashing lights etc.

 

But last night, something hit me.

 

If this "Divine Practice" is supposed to be so healing... so powerful... why the fuck am I sicker, skinner, more lethargic, socially awkward, and poorer (in wealth and human relationships) than I've ever been before?

 

Then it hit me...

 

I immediately sat down, took up the Kunlun posture.

 

Now, whereas before I would immediately start moving about, getting numb, hot, feel bliss, head tilt back.. all that "spontaneous movement", this time.. NOTHING HAPPENED.

 

Everything got really quiet, and then it hit me.

 

Kunlun doesn't DO anything, it's just you.

 

It's all you. I sat there for nearly 2 hours straight in the mystical "holding the ball" posture and realized, that's all it is... just a fuckin' dude sitting in his room alone who lost his friends, his beautiful girlfriend, his health, and practically his sanity all for the sake of looking for some mystical salvation.

 

The knees shake because the legs get tired, that's it.

 

NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS.

 

Anything else that happens, YOU are causing it. And I mean anything, siddhis included.

 

Maybe this is truly self awakening? Maybe this is the "Cosmic Joke" the masters speak of, "It's right in front of your face the whole time. You're already awake" they say. It's to realize that it was YOU the whole time. You're GOD - you're an all powerful unlimited creator who can, at just a thought, send his body into orgasmic pulsations of bliss, turn your cells into light, manifest health.. whatever it is you thought the practice was "doing" to you.

 

That's the beauty of it - it doesn't DO anything.

 

IT'S ALL YOU.

 

Bye for now. I'm off to go attain the siddhis of warm friends, getting back on my career path of actually enjoyable work, and go have some fun with a cute girl (or two) - in other words, BACK TO EARTH.

 

Peace out.

Dude, get off that shit. A version of Nefertiti chases after it. It puts a snake

embryo in your stomach.

It might be a "body-switching" method.

Traditional daoist texts we know of (that may mostly be leaked from the Wu Liu Pai sect) like "taoist yoga" or the books by Eva wong state that you have to create an immortal body/fetus/baby/whatever, transport it out of your body and then transfer your consciousness into it to become immortal. The texts about "The six yogas of Naropa"(tummo) state that you have to create the "illusory body" to become immortal. So your normal human energy body that contains the meridians, the dantians and so on that you already possess will cease eventually.

 

So why does John Chang state that simply condensing enough (Yang) Chi to a ball in your dantian is enough to make you immortal and preserving your personality after death...what should mean that your normal energy body will last forever with this "duracell" battery. So simply "not running out of juice" is already enough?

 

 

Edit: A quote from neigong.it in the actual John Chang thread:

 

 

 

P.S.: Spare my the New Age pieces of wisdom, please!

P.P.S.: It's very crucial for me to come to a conclusion in this question. So answers from people who know more about that matter than me would be very appreciated!

The tummo fire meditation may have been obsoleted. I have a suspicion

that it is the purple and red dress damning.

This damning may have dwindled Siddartha Guatama and Milarepa.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Alexpower888#p/u/0/r109YEPKZe8

 

YM

Jiang didn't explain to Verdesi that he has to get a seventh ray

crown first.

This is the Afghan girl then and now, yes she has beautifull eyes quite remarkable

 

http://www.eworldpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Afghan-Girl-image-earned-photographer-Steve-McCurry-worldwide-fame.jpg

After full physicalization, the eyes are completely gold. She didn't get

to physicalize.

"His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow. And his eyes were like flames of fire."

This man is called Caelus. The seventh ray ritual with the

seven poisons are in revelations. Revelations is not an

end time prophecy.

A biological embryo is a product of an intercourse between a male and a female; a so-called spiritual fetus in Taoist alchemy is a product after qi and Shen of us having had their intercourse.

 

 

The term " spiritual " embryo is not so precise as it is not purely spiritual , it involves "assimilating" pre-heavenly qi from outside as the "seed" otherwise no " fetus" will arise to be nourished for many months to come in our body .

 

A man having a spiritual fetus does get some similar feelings as a woman gets conceived.

 

And because the seed originates from the external qi , which always has its limitless source, a spiritual one is not so short-lived as a biological one..

It's not a "spiritual fetus" it is mass spead out. I saw a

a copy of Dies "Daylight" compress to be visible to

conventional sight.

Quick question

Does anybody have the a quote from his site of

the so-called "72 levels"?

The 72 levels maybe bullshit and may the 72 powers

robbed from an arhat or from somebody possessing a

nine ray crown.

Notice in the second picture how Lucifer got robbed.

There are two prongs missing on Lucifer's nine ray

crown. A seventh ray stoled from him and did a fucked up

ritual.

Not awakened by condition or a hearer.

Pay attention to number 33.

 

http://www.namastecafe.com/edu/symptoms.htm

number 33 may be the result of a body switching

That is false.

If you hit an awakening stage. You WILL get hit with trojanings,

body switches, buthering rituals, poisoning/dirtying rituals.

Check out the 2nd last one. Pretty deadly on all accounts eh? Not very compassionate for the ghosts.

A lot of stuff is strange about ghosts. Some or a lot of them are victims

of abusive body switchings. Lord Ganesha/Shiva is the victim of a body switch...and

still provides good things.

Can anybody really justify chi kung to me?

The exercises look like they are based on red and purple dress

methods...stuff like "belly breathing", shit like that.

The red and purple dress are doomsday methods, much like the

Heracles methods. They are no good and produce too much colateral

damage.

Hi there,

I was surfing in the Internet and then

 

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/

 

I think it is not relevant if it is true or not... but it is a date in 2 years, exciting it is the thought.

An interesting and disturbing thought to only live 1,5 year maybe and may either lost the life, other lifes and all belongs except the thing one has.

The feeling is like a death sentence but with the least chance, which is more disturbing then the sure death, and we know of the evilness in others heart when it comes to be the winners.One of the reason why we seek enlightment, Martial Arts, Qigong and else.

 

We in the civillisation are rarely in extrem situation for longer time. But what is when the time really comes as describe above.

How much of the love and humanity will be put aside to survive, how many and much have you to abandon, how many can you rescue and how many sins you will make and how many humilitation you will have to endure if you can survive, lots of Betrayal. From all knowledge in the school we can not suvive when it comes to a catstrophe, not knowing what is important and what not. Martial Arts, Qigong and Energy Healing will be proved to the depth if one really has established. It is not a time for illusion when it becomes dead serious.

 

In our daily life we have rarely extreme situation.

We fear about our loss of our job, the lonliness in society, the payments the laws

our status, the belongins and the failure in front of those we want something.

We feel safe about the other things that there is the police that may come to help,

the military which defend us from outer forces and in catastrophes.

 

Think about what will happen when the World Bank says that from today money is worthless?

Think what will happen when there is a world riot?

Now think what is important and not important in your life?

 

Some serious thoughts,

Q

Try praying to Earth.

Many great Buddhist Masters are falling over laughing right now. It is a tried and true path that brings the results that Falun lacks.

 

So are many Other paths.

 

The litmus test is has the path produced great masters? Buddhism has produced scores of them and still does...

 

Metta!

Seth.

I made mine and I gives less than a shit what they think.

See the words "Awakened by Condition". I don't play the

"Enlightened by Condition" shit.

I owe Earth. See ya.

PS...you better ask Siddartha Gautama or Maitreya to see if

Theravada has an authorization from the Order of Sariputra.