TheSongsofDistantEarth

Maybe it would be an unethical choice.

Yup. If you're able bodied. That's not what assistance programs are for. You'll be there with the disabled folks picking up your food stamps. Plus, you seem to have some very...unique ideas about spirituality and what kind of transformation one must go through in order to be liberated from rebirth and the Wheel of Existence. I think you need to have some character and spirit development, rather than being able to do tricks with your chi.

What do you imagine attaining a high mo pai level will do for you? You've basically disregarded Buddhism flat out, since you can't see any Buddhists who are enlightened. What makes John Chang or his teachers free from rebirth?

You don't seem like you've thought deeply about this stuff, you're in such a hurry to get rid of the Earth plane and end your bodily existence.

College students either earn a scholarship or pay back a loan.

You're able bodied and want the rest of us to support you? If you want to work half time and cultivate fine, but you want assistance? I thought you wanted to be a self-sufficient spiritual warrior?

Jeez, have you no pride?

The Buddhas will send you back for rebirth on that alone.

Research Christian monks and scholars who have been on a meditative path, such as Thomas Merton, Jesuits, perhaps be prepared to talk about the Christian fathers and the Philokalia-type of thing, and be ready to divert into this side of things. Whatever you do, stay away from Hinduism and Buddhism, if you can. Just speak of 'contemplation' rather than 'meditation', and if you believe in prayer, talk toward prayer. Keep monkishness in mind rather than Hare Krishna and Buddha, even.

Be as happy as possible to meet the gene line of this wonderful man, and keep your focus on that. Don't let them sniff out evasiveness and discomfort. It's a tightrope, for sure, but how you keep your heart and attitude will determine so much.

And observe how your man does with all this. If you can objectively as possible observe how he does with this scene, it may save you a lot of pain later on if he really can't cut the strings with his parents and claim you. It's a good test and a peek into a possible future. If he really stands by you energetically, that's great, if there's a little voice in the back of your head, know that now.

T

Your age is important in how you treat your hypogonadism. You should try and avoid exogenous testosterone, rather, you should get your body to produce more. If you're under 55, there are a number of good options.

There are good previous threads here that give advice on healthier ways to increase testosterone. Even if you are taking testosterone, your jingo will be improved by various ways, like vigorous exercise, Hindu squats, celery, etc.,

If you are under 55, injecting yourself twice weekly with hcg 1250 units will prod your body to produce it's own testosterone. But I generally think you should use a less invasive way that doesn't 'fool' your body with a non-physiologic mechanism.

All of us are longing to return Home.

Most people want super powers, I want to become (spiritually) immortal and leave the earth as a spirit, or reach a permanent state of non-existence/non-awareness/sleep. I have no interest in controlling and manipulating other people or staying here on this earth one second more than I absolutely have to.

 

Every day I am alive I think about my death, and rebirth, I want to make sure I am not reborn. Yes it is something with bothers me to the extreme. I do not want to be reborn again at any cost.

 

Most other people I have met want power just for the sake of having power, and it is a DBZ fan fest.

What makes you believe Mo Pai is the best way to accomplish this?

This thread and the other one confirms my every suspicion about the followers of the magus John Chang and all the people chasing the elusive powers of Mo Pai ...exactly, it does.

Welcome! Long live the pig! Hip-hip-hooray!!! Calous Calais!!!

Eh, ban 'em all and let the Tao sort 'em out.

The fable explains food-chain killing pretty well. Inter-species killing for food.

I don't see how it could possibly justify intra-species killing.

Oh yeah, just a reminder of where you are on the food chain folks.

IMO myths like this "are the problem".

However it does seem that our world is exactly this way.

You read this literally???

What do you mean "Myths like this 'are the problem'?

Kate...I'm taken aback...could you elaborate?

Big fan of this guy. His book on Awareness is FANTASTIC!

 

http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-Opportunities-Reality-Anthony-Mello/dp/0385249373

The quote above is from his book. Yes, he is fantastic.

Bumping this, by way of re-post:

The Way the World Is

When you awaken, when you understand, when you see, the world becomes right. We're always bothered by the problem of evil. There's a powerful story about a little boy walking along the bank of a river. He sees a crocodile who is trapped in a net. The crocodile says, "Would you have pity on me and release me? I may look ugly, but it isn't my fault, you know. I was made this way. But whatever my external appearance, I have a mother's heart. I came this morning in search of food for my young ones and got caught in this trap!"

So the boy says, "Ah, if I were to help you out of that trap, you'd grab me and kill me."

The crocodile asks, "Do you think I would do that to my benefactor and liberator?"

So the boy is persuaded to take the net off and the crocodile grabs him.

As he is being forced between the jaws of the crocodile, he says, "So this is what I get for my good actions." And the crocodile says, "Well, don't take it personally, son, this is the way the world is, this is the law of life."

The boy disputes this, so the crocodile says, "Do you want to ask someone if it isn't so?"

The boy sees a bird sitting on a branch and says, "Bird, is what the crocodile says right?" The bird says, "The crocodile is right. Look at me. I was coming home one day with food for my fledglings. Imagine my horror to see a snake crawling up the tree, making straight for my nest. I was totally helpless. It kept devouring my young ones, one after the other. I kept screaming and shouting, but it was useless. The crocodile is right, this is the law of life, this is the way the world is."

"See," says the crocodile. But the boy says, "Let me ask someone else." So the crocodile says, "Well, all right, go ahead."

There was an old donkey passing by on the bank of the river. "Donkey," says the boy, "this is what the crocodile says. Is the crocodile right?"

The donkey says, "The crocodile is quite right. Look at me. I've worked and slaved for my master all my life and he barely gave me enough to eat. Now that I'm old and useless, he has turned me loose, and here I am wandering in the jungle, waiting for some wild beast to pounce on me and put an end to my life. The crocodile is right, this is the law of life, this is the way the world is."

"See," says the crocodile. "Let's go!"

The boy says, "Give me one more chance, one last chance. Let me ask one other being. Remember how good I was to you?" So the crocodile says, "All right, your last chance."

The boy sees a rabbit passing by, and he says, "Rabbit, is the crocodile right?"

The rabbit sits on his haunches and says to the crocodile, "Did you say that to that boy? The crocodile says, "Yes, I did." "Wait a minute," says the rabbit. "We've got to discuss this." "Yes," says the crocodile. But the rabbit says, "How can we discuss it when you've got that boy in your mouth? Release him; he's got to take part in the discussion, too." The crocodile says, "You're a clever one, you are. The moment I release him, he'll run away." The rabbit says, "I thought you had more sense than that. If he attempted to run away, one slash of your tail would kill him."

"Fair enough," says the crocodile, and he released the boy. The moment the boy is released, the rabbit says, "Run!" And the boy runs and escapes. Then the rabbit says to the boy, "Don't you enjoy crocodile flesh? Wouldn't the people in your village like a good meal? You didn't really release that crocodile; most of his body is still caught in that net. Why don't you go to the village and bring everybody and have a banquet."

That's exactly what the boy does. He goes to the village and calls all the men folk. They come with their axes and staves and spears and kill the crocodile. The boy's dog comes, too, and when the dog sees the rabbit, he gives chase, catches hold of the rabbit, and throttles him. The boy comes on the scene too late, and as he watches the rabbit die, he says, "The crocodile was right, this is the way the world is, this is the law of life."

There is no explanation you can give that would explain away all the sufferings and evil and torture and destruction and hunger in the world! You'll never explain it. You can try gamely with your formulas, religious and otherwise, but you'll never explain it. Because life is a mystery, which means your thinking mind cannot make sense out of it. For that you've got to wake up and then you'll suddenly realize that reality is not problematic, you are the problem.

-Anthony De Mello

From Bhagavan Das' book, 'It's Here Now (Are You?)':

"I have done it all. I have done the deepest, most intense spiritual practices. When I was doing my one hundred thousand prostrations at Bodh Gaya, I had my board and I was out there at four in the morning for three hours, one hundred thousand prostrations. . . sixty to seventy thousand prostrations into doing this, I did a prostration, and I completely slide off the board into infinity. I went into this complete realm of golden light and bliss, I saw nothing but golden Buddhas shining a light upon me. And I opened into a whole realm. And then I got up and did the next prostration. . . In a way, that's what life is. Life is like doing prostrations. . .The point I'm getting to is that it takes one hundred thousand prostrations to get one good one."

 

 

 

 

You need or needn't to worry about herpes...it all depends how strong your Qi/good karma is.

 

 

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I was wondering does anyone have any experience of the health and energetic benefits of doing prostrations for a long period? for example in Tibetan tantric practice they prescribe doing 100,000 prostrations as preparatory practice which is said to balance the body and mind and eliminate pride. Supposedly the the hands clasped at the head, throat and heart purify those centres while when you are prostrate having the knees, elbows and head on the floor grounds the energetic currents so they can be released into the earth, which is meant to balance the meridians.

 

I was wondering if anyone can testify to the benefits of this practice as I was working out to do 100,000 you would need to do over a hundred a day for a few years which is quite a prospect

Let me give this a try...Prostrations are something that I deeply yearn to do, my ideal is to someday circumambulate Mount Kailash while doing prostrations. Prostrations don't have "benefit" in the way that ordinary cultivation does, in that you develop certain powers, or your meridians are balanced (although they may be)...the 'point' of doing prostrations is to lose the little self, and merge with the Self...in a sense, to prostrate over and over and over and over again, tens or hundreds of thousands of times, is to merge, like a wave merges, into the ocean of the Self, or Supreme Reality. It is turning away from all the things that are you, and you just become a being doing prostrations, enduring the suffering of knees elbows hands and the ground, and is both an act of surrender and of will...ultimately, it just becomes surrender, nothing more. Mind is turned off, there is just the repetition and surrender of again and again, until the prostrations are 'doing you'...Any other 'benefits' are beside the point.

At some point on the spiritual path, this will make sense to you. This is my own interpretation, there may be greater esoteric meaning, or perhaps each prostration brings a single insect rebirth as a higher insect, i don't know, but this is what is meaningful to me.

I'm about ready to pay each of you $150 just so y'all will just shuddup already.

Hey everybody, don't spend your hard earned money on some manual called 'Mozi Neidan' that contains all the secrets to make you a powerful person who won't be so desperate as to keep sending more money to shady ripoff strangers on the internet.

There. Now let it go and let's move on.

Certainly lessons to be learned here...spiritual materialism from both sides, IMHO...

Could one combine BOUNCING and SHAKING? Just bounce without leaving the surface of the rebounder and shake at the same time...Might be awesome!

"Drawing inspiration from the 60's cross country acid-fueled journey by Ken Kesey and The Merry Pranksters, (except this one is powered by chi and french-fry grease), this rag tag bunch of awakened beings is up to some "serious fun" en-route to give their East-Coast compadres a 'metaphysical hot-foot'. Buddhists must ride on top of the bus on the luggage racks and will serve as wait-staff to the Taoist contingent. Breakfast will be served by Vajrahridaya and Sunya, a couple of derelict 'dharma hobos', and will be Taoist Toast with khechari nectar. Wearing burgundy colored Snuggies, the bums are on the road with merriment and hi-jinks aplenty. Innocent people in small town America along the way getting more than their fill of "indian burns, underpants snuggies, and Three Stooges style whoop-de-do in their faces". Run out of several towns already in Caifornia, ringleader Blasto's stated aim is to "find Drew Hempel, wherever he may be, and if unsuccessful, to bring out the 'inner Drew Hempel' in everybody..."

Hello Blasto,

 

I'm wondering what makes you different from this guy? He doesn't believe the Mayans, you don't believe him. I'm sure he speaks ill of others beliefs and you speak ill of his beliefs. Perhaps it's because you're right and he's wrong? Maybe you should be less concerned with what others believe and more concerned with what you believe?

 

Aaron

Interesting reaction, Twinner. Why the hostility?

I submit that it's too early to tell one way or another. The only problem with the Best Minds scenario is that we don't have enough of them to keep the rest of the stupid bastards from screwing everything up in the first place! It would've been great if the best Minds could've weighed in at Chernobyl or deep-sea oilwells, but they're spread just too darn thin.

 

We've never encountered this problem before. No reactor has ever gotten so hot that we couldn't get close enough to cool it down so it's too soon to tell. As far as the Gulf of Mexico goes, it will take decades to measure any appreciable shifts in that ecosystem, so O wouldn't hold out for too much optimism.

 

But as an expectant father, part of me is compelled to.

Blasto, you're much more aware and tuned in to reality than your average father-to-be. I think that the Taoist Eco-Village is the best alternative, but it's still a long shot for survival, long term, if the shit really does hit the fan. I would find it torture to to be I. Your position, with what you know and with a little one on the way.

But then again, I tend to be extremely pessimistic about these things.

Yes, interesting, except who are 'they'? And please don't tell me "the Rothschilds".

Exactly.

That's my take on it. Made me appreciate life more, but that period of my life remains deep Mystery to me.